early rome. >no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances

early rome
>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
>literally no philosophy until the 2nd century BC, imported from a dying greek culture
>intellectual life was highly material and practical, little concern for abstract ideas
>any man who tried to usurp too much power was legally killable
>armies were almost always on the offensive
>culture was unified around one people, minimal infighting and strongly cohesive

late rome
>full of backbiting petty christians, invite barbarians in to wage war against other christians
>intellectual life was highly theological and spiritual
>society was multicultural and weak, no romanization of lands occurred anymore
>backbiting christians betray goths, who themselves were backbiting christians, destroying the last pagan strongholds in the process
>entire society was on the defensive, slowly retreating from land it could not hold, from losing men to christian battles
>remaining pagans noticed the tendency of christians to infight, tried to limit the damage they'd do

learning about roman history is the ultimate redpill on christians. the entire religion is full of petty, b***hy men who lead to destruction and are only capable of backbiting their fellow men for tiny advantages.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    early rome
    >poor as frick
    >pagan
    >based
    >heterosexual

    late rome
    >rich as frick
    >christian
    >cucked
    >homosexual

    learning about roman history is the ultimate redpill on money. the entire wealthy class is full of petty, b***hy men who lead to destruction and are only capable of backbiting their fellow men for tiny advantages.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yes i'm sure you're very familiar with being told you don't understand things

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        only nietzsche, and only on IQfy

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          ok. do you have anything interesting to say?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      "You don't understand Nietzsche like I do."
      >Anon Enters Chat
      >Anon Enters Chat
      >Anon Enters Chat

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >MARX NEVER SAID THAT

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
    I really fricking wish that this was true for our era too

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    obligatory

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You feel obliged to post a nonsense rant about Nietzsche?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      God damn that’s intense he was choosing what he wanted to believe so he could tell us he’s always been right and fully expand on his original points in earlier works

      Is the intuitiveness of Nietzsche a big lie

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Where is this from? Looks interesting.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I see satan fall like lightning

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    early rome had different conceptions of death and property but im not sure why you think it was more peaceful. Fighting was on a smaller scale, but thats only because the society was smaller.
    Whole civilizations, like the etruscans, were exterminated anon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Whole civilizations, like the etruscans, were exterminated anon
      Those were not Romans, but rather their first and greatest adversaries, so I don't see how it refutes OP. If anything, it supports his point.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >but im not sure why you think it was more peaceful.
      internally peaceful. externally it was extremely violent.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        > internally
        thats fair, although mostly for very early, almost pre republic, Rome.
        Smaller societies generally are more peaceful, but ones you get into empire there was quite abit of city fighting , mostly about who is and is not a full citizen. .

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I'd say the beginning of the empire was in many ways the beginning of the decline. Sure, the empire did expand all the way up to Trajan, but the rot was already setting in. Honestly it was even underway with Marius.

          It's no coincidence to me that Christ lived contemporaneous with Augustus, the first emperor, and Christianity spread along with the empire's eventual decline.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >learning about roman history is the ultimate redpill on christians. the entire religion is full of petty, b***hy men who lead to destruction and are only capable of backbiting their fellow men for tiny advantages.
    You nailed it! 2,000 years later and which countries are richest, most militarily dominant, educated, and humane? Gosh I can barely even guess... is it... the Christian ones? Also, no caps post - god back to Discord and
    >learning about roman history
    Youtube / podcasts.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Those countries are the richest because monarchs threw off Christianity and reinstated pagan values.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes yes - you're big strong hulking mass of masculine genius just dripping with the divine right to rule. Now go build your sand castles.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Cope. Charlemagne was a pagan.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            try again

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Christianity made rome fall
    Smells like Gibbon. Gibbon is fun to read but he's pushing an agenda and was writing 300 years ago. Read something more modern anon. He's parroting whatever classical author wrote the best about whatever period he's on, which means he's regurgitating Ammianus Marcellinus and Zosimus and even the fricking Historia Augusta for a lot of Late Rome--no shit he's anti-Christian.

    >full of backbiting petty christians, invite barbarians in to wage war against other christians
    As opposed to the famously un-petty un-backbiting pagan romans of 0-350. Take your pick: year of the four emperors, year of the five emperors, year of the six emperors, 250/251. As to inviting Barbarians in to fight in the army, what else are you supposed to do when Julian looses tens of thousands of men in Parthia or Magnentius (a pagan) gets 50,000 killed at Mursa Major? Not like they could keep them out anyway

    >intellectual life was highly theological and spiritual
    Lol what? You don't like that there was philosophy or abstract thinking?

    >society was multicultural and weak, no romanization of lands occurred anymore
    No lands were conquered anymore you dingus. Even Trajan failed to Romanize Dacia. Everything that was gonna be Romanized was Romanized.

    >backbiting christians betray goths, who themselves were backbiting christians, destroying the last pagan strongholds in the process
    Incoherent; if you're talking about 410, Honorius' moronation had nothing to do with his Christianity, and Stilicho was a Nicene Christian.

    >entire society was on the defensive, slowly retreating from land it could not hold, from losing men to christian battles
    The entire society had been on the defensive since Decius if not Marcus Aurelius. Even Hadrian knew the empire couldn't get any bigger.

    >remaining pagans noticed the tendency of christians to infight, tried to limit the damage they'd do
    Remaining pagans terrified of bridges, quickly give up polytheism for sol worship, and then convert to Christianity.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
    Wrong
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_society
    >literally no philosophy until the 2nd century BC, imported from a dying greek culture
    >intellectual life was highly material and practical, little concern for abstract ideas
    These are negatives
    >any man who tried to usurp too much power was legally killable
    >armies were almost always on the offensive
    Christianity didn't cause either of these changes, the explosive growth of the Empire did
    >culture was unified around one people, minimal infighting and strongly cohesive
    This changed long before Christianity, look into how Rome's syncretic paganism actually worked

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
    What are death masks

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
    you fricking moron. They literally believed in the spirit of their ancestors and kept on feeding them.
    life was highly material and practical, little concern for abstract ideas
    are you a materialist? But this is objectively false.
    was unified around one people, minimal infighting and strongly cohesive
    lol, lmao.

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