early rome
>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
>literally no philosophy until the 2nd century BC, imported from a dying greek culture
>intellectual life was highly material and practical, little concern for abstract ideas
>any man who tried to usurp too much power was legally killable
>armies were almost always on the offensive
>culture was unified around one people, minimal infighting and strongly cohesive
late rome
>full of backbiting petty christians, invite barbarians in to wage war against other christians
>intellectual life was highly theological and spiritual
>society was multicultural and weak, no romanization of lands occurred anymore
>backbiting christians betray goths, who themselves were backbiting christians, destroying the last pagan strongholds in the process
>entire society was on the defensive, slowly retreating from land it could not hold, from losing men to christian battles
>remaining pagans noticed the tendency of christians to infight, tried to limit the damage they'd do
learning about roman history is the ultimate redpill on christians. the entire religion is full of petty, bitchy men who lead to destruction and are only capable of backbiting their fellow men for tiny advantages.
pic related, he actually knew roman history, we all know the christian tradlarpers don't actually read
early rome
>poor as fuck
>pagan
>based
>heterosexual
late rome
>rich as fuck
>christian
>cucked
>homosexual
learning about roman history is the ultimate redpill on money. the entire wealthy class is full of petty, bitchy men who lead to destruction and are only capable of backbiting their fellow men for tiny advantages.
yes i'm sure you're very familiar with being told you don't understand things
only nietzsche, and only on LULZ
ok. do you have anything interesting to say?
"You don't understand Nietzsche like I do."
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>MARX NEVER SAID THAT
>>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
I really fucking wish that this was true for our era too
obligatory
You feel obliged to post a nonsense rant about Nietzsche?
God damn that’s intense he was choosing what he wanted to believe so he could tell us he’s always been right and fully expand on his original points in earlier works
Is the intuitiveness of Nietzsche a big lie
Where is this from? Looks interesting.
I see satan fall like lightning
early rome had different conceptions of death and property but im not sure why you think it was more peaceful. Fighting was on a smaller scale, but thats only because the society was smaller.
Whole civilizations, like the etruscans, were exterminated anon
>Whole civilizations, like the etruscans, were exterminated anon
Those were not Romans, but rather their first and greatest adversaries, so I don't see how it refutes OP. If anything, it supports his point.
>but im not sure why you think it was more peaceful.
internally peaceful. externally it was extremely violent.
> internally
thats fair, although mostly for very early, almost pre republic, Rome.
Smaller societies generally are more peaceful, but ones you get into empire there was quite abit of city fighting , mostly about who is and is not a full citizen. .
Yeah, I'd say the beginning of the empire was in many ways the beginning of the decline. Sure, the empire did expand all the way up to Trajan, but the rot was already setting in. Honestly it was even underway with Marius.
It's no coincidence to me that Christ lived contemporaneous with Augustus, the first emperor, and Christianity spread along with the empire's eventual decline.
>learning about roman history is the ultimate redpill on christians. the entire religion is full of petty, bitchy men who lead to destruction and are only capable of backbiting their fellow men for tiny advantages.
You nailed it! 2,000 years later and which countries are richest, most militarily dominant, educated, and humane? Gosh I can barely even guess... is it... the Christian ones? Also, no caps post - god back to Discord and
>learning about roman history
Youtube / podcasts.
Those countries are the richest because monarchs threw off Christianity and reinstated pagan values.
Yes yes - you're big strong hulking mass of masculine genius just dripping with the divine right to rule. Now go build your sand castles.
Cope. Charlemagne was a pagan.
try again
>Christianity made rome fall
Smells like Gibbon. Gibbon is fun to read but he's pushing an agenda and was writing 300 years ago. Read something more modern anon. He's parroting whatever classical author wrote the best about whatever period he's on, which means he's regurgitating Ammianus Marcellinus and Zosimus and even the fucking Historia Augusta for a lot of Late Rome--no shit he's anti-Christian.
>full of backbiting petty christians, invite barbarians in to wage war against other christians
As opposed to the famously un-petty un-backbiting pagan romans of 0-350. Take your pick: year of the four emperors, year of the five emperors, year of the six emperors, 250/251. As to inviting Barbarians in to fight in the army, what else are you supposed to do when Julian looses tens of thousands of men in Parthia or Magnentius (a pagan) gets 50,000 killed at Mursa Major? Not like they could keep them out anyway
>intellectual life was highly theological and spiritual
Lol what? You don't like that there was philosophy or abstract thinking?
>society was multicultural and weak, no romanization of lands occurred anymore
No lands were conquered anymore you dingus. Even Trajan failed to Romanize Dacia. Everything that was gonna be Romanized was Romanized.
>backbiting christians betray goths, who themselves were backbiting christians, destroying the last pagan strongholds in the process
Incoherent; if you're talking about 410, Honorius' retardation had nothing to do with his Christianity, and Stilicho was a Nicene Christian.
>entire society was on the defensive, slowly retreating from land it could not hold, from losing men to christian battles
The entire society had been on the defensive since Decius if not Marcus Aurelius. Even Hadrian knew the empire couldn't get any bigger.
>remaining pagans noticed the tendency of christians to infight, tried to limit the damage they'd do
Remaining pagans terrified of bridges, quickly give up polytheism for sol worship, and then convert to Christianity.
>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
Wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_society
>literally no philosophy until the 2nd century BC, imported from a dying greek culture
>intellectual life was highly material and practical, little concern for abstract ideas
These are negatives
>any man who tried to usurp too much power was legally killable
>armies were almost always on the offensive
Christianity didn't cause either of these changes, the explosive growth of the Empire did
>culture was unified around one people, minimal infighting and strongly cohesive
This changed long before Christianity, look into how Rome's syncretic paganism actually worked
>>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
What are death masks
>>no mourning for the dead, after burial there were no remembrances
you fucking retard. They literally believed in the spirit of their ancestors and kept on feeding them.
life was highly material and practical, little concern for abstract ideas
are you a materialist? But this is objectively false.
was unified around one people, minimal infighting and strongly cohesive
lol, lmao.