Dont women understand that once they have casual sex they cease to be a possible wife and turn into just another piece of frickmeat?
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Dont women understand that once they have casual sex they cease to be a possible wife and turn into just another piece of frickmeat?
Only if you think of women as sex objects and not human beings. You probably wildly overestimate your own worth as a person tbh tbh
>. You probably wildly overestimate your own worth as a person tbh tbh
Why do you say that?
What makes you think you have value as a person?
Answer my question first bawd
Didnt meant to say this
To you
Lol
You put women in a dichotomy you don't also put yourself/other men in, and one that you'd fail by your own metric. You think that what she offers is sexual, and if that part of her is tainted she's nothing, while you yourself have some boundless value that is immutable. You want casual sex and can't get it so try to spin it as something soul destroying; if you did somehow manage to get laid you'd instantly change your stance to accommodate yourself and instead it'd be "women that have X much casual sex" rather than >0 casual sex.
Men dont want bawds
Women dont care or even prefer studs
Theres no way around that
In a society where people are expected to be chaste, both men and women want someone they feel will be monogamous. In one where casual sex is more accepted, both will cave and accept what they can get, because people generally want sex and that want outweighs misgivings over them having fricked too many prior.
Look, I woudl be all for a chaste society
Most men here wouldnt have a problem being virgins if mist girls were chaste and looking for marriage
But thats not the world we live in
We live in a world where girls get wet for frickboys and dislike virgins
Are you going to wait to lose your virginity with a perfect waifu? No way, just use those hoes
>Most men here wouldnt have a problem being virgins if mist girls were chaste and looking for marriage
I think this is a rosy way of looking at the past. By most data, even in medieval time ~20% of people never married. Some people just offer nothing and can't find anyone, or their rough match is also worthless. If you're completely undesirable in all ways (looks, personality, etc) then you end up completely alone no matter what, because loneliness is a better alternative for most.
The main problem americlaps have is prostitution being illegal, give men paid pussy and the lack of love becomes less of a weight.
hot guys get away with murder but so do hot women, this is what people always leave out. You'd frick the hell out of pic rel even if she was the dumbest sjw moron and hated everything you cared about so long as she was willing. 1-3/10 die along, 4-8/10 have to b urself, and 9-10/10 can do whatever they want and get away with it, both men and women
Except the bar is much lower for females. Unless you look like the bastard child of Shrek and the donkey you can still cruise through life with zero worries.
>in medieval time ~20% of people never married
That's still much lower than today's rate.
>dislike virgins
No, they dislike self identifying incels. They literally have no idea if you're virgin or not unless you're being autistic about it.
Projecting.
Ooferino.
not all deduction is projection homie. OP says they can't value a woman after she's had sex, from where does this come? This is largely a statement made by people unable to have sex; men who embrace some kind of volcel nosexuntilmarriage don't have the madonna/prostitute complex, it's men that just can't get laid and cloak their jealousy (of all people able to have sex) with "rational" reasons for their jaded view. Feel free to cry projection some more though my little snowflake fren
nice argument you have there, it'd be a shame if the existence of prostitutes completely dismantled it
How so? People don't see a woman that's slept with a lot of men and a prostitute that's slept with a lot of men as the same, you'd see the one as just exploring themselves/being a bawd and the other as selling their pussy for money, which few people find acceptable out of hardcore "sex work is real work" circles. The view of a prostitute says basically nothing about views of lay people.
The hate of paid prostitutes is also out of envy though, since most guys wish they could get paid to frick. Look at any thread about sperm donors, guys wish they could make a living off of their wieners but most can't so get toasty over that.
As I said earlier, complaints of a woman sleeping with anyone prior is not even natural but purely out of spite, knowing that they can get laid and you can't. Normies make fun of prostitutes but still frick them without considering the irony, incels seethe but would climb over themselves to frick a woman they thought was interested in them, hence the simp-incel loop
>that guy
>posting a few lines at a time
>this guy
>posting literally paragraphs
Dude you know he's skimming your posts and entirely distracted probably by other threads right?
This isn't AIM, we're posting for whomever reads the thread. Someone made the thread and other people respond, you don't need equal responses from anyone to keep posting. If the guy I'm talking to can only respond via irony and half thought out responses that's his vibe, it costs me nothing to post so I'll keep going
praxis
The "jealousy" you spoke of initially was over not getting sex, prostitutes offer easy access to that so now you move the goalpost to not being able to sell sex?
There's clearly some spite there, but not over what you think. Women getting sex whenever they want is a given, that's just how it is and even incels acknowledge that as normal.
The frustration comes from how they're able to get away with being prostitutes in today's society with no downsides whatsoever.
Dont discuss with holes
They always move the goalposts
Wait that rhymes
Nice
those who see women as sex objects get the most pussy
Lmao this. People who say DURR YOU ARE AN INCEL BECAUSE YOU HATE WOMEN never actually talked with sexually successful men. The mere mention of a female name sparks the audible from them "Is she hot?" and after they frick them they block them everywhere and they call those women moronic prostitutes kekekek.
They are handsome so they get away with essentially talking and thinking like an incels.is user irl
Radio silence from the simps and bimbos over your post because they know its true. The most misogynistic men are the most sexually successful. They don't have to have a simpering whimpering pro-woman personality because they are genetically physically attractive and that is 100% of genuine attraction. They could be serial rapists/murderers and would still get laid constantly if they're handsome. The data is clear about this.
Would it not be the other way around? If somebody was a sex object, then I would not blame them for having casual sex; after all, that would be their point. But if they are supposedly human beings, then I would wonder why they would willingly degrade themselves by having casual sex.
Human beings are flawed. Some people lie and steal, some people play video games, some people dont contribute much to their community. The problem with fixating on the sex thing is that you would assume women are one dimensional and effectively just sex objects that belong to the first person who comes along. Its rational to avoid women whose lifestyle is conducive to casual sex, its irrational to avoid or judge women more generally for the concept of casual sex. Even jumping to conclusions is a sort of bias that doesnt necessarily serve you well.
It sounds like what you're saying is that we should be misanthropic and avoid relationships with people in general. I am a virgin, and I've wanted an innocent, wholesome relationship with a girl who is waiting until marriage. I've wanted that since childhood, and there is no pointing in even engaging with romance or dating if I can't have that. If you are truly saying that the human species has fallen so far that such a very basic relationship standard is unrealistic or impossible, then all you've accomplished is convincing me that our species is no longer human.
Its not unrealistic, it happens all the time. I got married when I was 23 myself. If you are trying to get married to the girl you love, thats a good thing. It just seems like OP is more interested in judging the women he is rejecting or using as frickmeat objects. People with family values dont have to wait long, you can literally get married when you turn 18
I am 26 and am nowhere close to getting married. I have never really even had a gf before.
That sounds like the exact opposite of someone who seeks a wholesome relationship, sorry. Have you ever been told that you are a pathological liar?
I am honestly terrible at lying. I immediately start feeling terrible about it halfway through the lie and just tell the truth right after.
I have wanted a wholesome relationship like I described (and very much like pic related). I've just never found a girl who reciprocated those feelings. Expecting to find one at an age as young as 18 seems very unreasonable, as trying to earn that takes a couple decades of effort, minimum.
Finding a girl takes a week or so.
Improving to the point where you can have the relationship you want takes many, many years at a minimum. I have been working at it diligently since I was 12 years old. I am getting closer...
Its impossible to work on it alone or know what you are working toward at 12. Start dating women or stop lying about wanting a relationship, based
>Its impossible to work on it alone
I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
> know what you are working toward at 12.
Uh, huh? How? My goals have basically been the same since I was 11 to 13 years old.
>start dating women
I am not ready, nor do I see any women I would want to date atm.
>stop lying about wanting a relationship
I am not lying. Maybe, one day, I will be ready for one. I am not now emotionally or in any other way
>Would it not be the other way around? If somebody was a sex object, then I would not blame them for having casual sex; after all, that would be their point. But if they are supposedly human beings, then I would wonder why they would willingly degrade themselves by having casual sex.
>trying to use logic
>to argue agains women
Your logic: 100
Your common sense: 0
I had the same kind of discussion in purple pill debate
Some women would accuse me of seeing women as sex objects because I said I didnt want to marry a non virgin
Then I would say "how can I be seeing then as sex object if I initially wanted to marry her and the frickboy was the one that just wanted to use her as a sex object AND SHE LET HIM?"
Women cant think straight
See how here she just went into a "we are all sinners" mode
>Some of use play videogames
>Some of us do gangbangs
>Equally bad
>Equally bad
Technically the gaymer would be worse from a biological and moral perspective, but the main argument is that there is more to relationships than treating women like sex objects.
>Only if you think of women as sex objects and not human beings.
thats what they are
>Only if you think of women as sex objects and not human beings
That's what she did when she had casual sex.
Yeah, neither of you morons understand what a subject or object is
>use me as your fricktoy Chad yeah yeah Im gonna cum oh that was good hmm whats your name again?
>hey anon what do you mean you dont want to date bawds? First theres no such thing as a bawd, second being a bawd is good. Stop seeing women as sex objects!
My point is that social media has pretty much proven that most women are degenerate prostitutes and they should be treated accordingly.
My point is you're moronic and should walk out onto a freeway
>u big dummy head
>Good point
moron
>Only if you think of women as sex objects and not human beings
I mean have you been on tiktok, instagram and Twitter lately?
All foids do on there is do booty dances and thirst traps.
>your
Alternatively, I wanted a human companion and not an object so I waited for someone that had values and have been happily married for some time.
You're the one who thinks women are objects and you're too fricking stupid to see it.
Everyone overestimates their value as people, we have no intrinsic worth, if you have done nothing with your life you literally have no worth and no different to dirt.
No one cares about your smarmy incel opinion. Women can have fun and still be wanted and loved because sex doesn't change what kind of person you are.
>Women can have fun and still be wanted and loved
Of course! No one is keeping jer from playing with legos or something like that
>Because sex doesn't change what kind of person you are.
No, you are right, it reveals what kind of person you are
Answer my question first bawd
Everyone can see plainly what kind of person you are. It's why you're all alone and no one wants you
Oh no you found my weakness, the judgement of other people and the fear of being alone and being socially ostracized
Kek thats alk women can think to offend, social status stuff
I'm not a woman my friend. I'm a male, and a stranger explaining why you will live alone until the day you commit suicide
You're not going anywhere with that thread. Most single women are not virgins anymore, so they will feel attacked and say you are wrong. Most men are with used up women and will feel attacked and say you are wrong. In the bottom of their heart they of course wish his girl was still virgin when he met her, but he can't change that, so he's gonna say "It's not THAT important, buddy." It of course is, it's VERY important, but what is he gonna do? He's part of this fricked society and it was not his choice to live in this clown world.
>sex doesn't change what kind of person you are.
Lol. It completely changes who a woman is. Are you out of your mind?
This is a cope. There's always simps willing to settle
Let them
Coping is what that simp will ahve to do to sleep at night
Separate love and sex in your mind, anon. They are not the same.
Would you let your wife frick other men then?
Sure you are
Sure you are sweaty
Only women tries to offend by shaming your wocial status
>Only women tries to offend by shaming your wocial status
Consider you might actually just be so insipid that your sensitive spot is obvious to anyone who cares to look. Because you're not special; you're as worthless and common as the rest of men who act like you
B8tch you type like that and you still try to larp as a male? Lol
Have some dignity and admit it
Aww, you seem upset sweetie
You wanna smash?
I've noticed this on here too. Women are not at all hard to notice when they talk.
>I'm actually a man
Yeah guys don't say this shit it's obvious by the way they type if it's a man or a woman
They type like they are full of shit
Its the kind of talk that would get you bullied and punched in middle school
Believe whatever you want. It doesn't change women never wanting you
Sextoys like you shouldnt be allowed to express their opinions
I bet you are wet from being offended like that, women are already crazy in the head when it comes to being degraded, more so NSFFW women
>I bet you are wet from being offended like that
I'm a bit excited from how upset you clearly are tbh tbh
You like that you fricking bawd?
>immediately defers to social standing to insult
>uses access to hole as a means of assigning value
If it walks, if it talks, if its habits are a little bit peculiar, it's a woman!
women type like they're writing some posh essay on Reddit, if i see a fricking ; in your post i am going to assume you are either fourteen years old and just learned where that's supposed to go in a sentence, or you're a woman writing something you think is close to meaningful to anyone else
All true except the ; part
I mean its useful after you losted a lot ot stuff separated by , and then wants to keep the phrase going
But yeah other than that case youre right
Listed not losted*
>if i see a fricking ; in your post i am going to assume you are either fourteen years old and just learned where that's supposed to go in a sentence, or you're a woman
Fellas,,, is it gay to use semi colons
>Don't women understand
No.
My truth detector is going crazy.
I dont have sex, but Id say that only beta b***h gays think this way. When an alpha bro thinks about how many other guys made you cum, his only thought is how hell make you cum harder than anyone ever did before
Only a guy that wants to marry thinks like that, which means only a guy that can form a stable society
Leave it to Chads and foids and we would all be Ooga Boogas in 100 years
You already are moronic and socially defunct or else you wouldnt be here
You are the ooga booga
Ooga boogas wouldnt be here
If by ooga booga you mean failed males then yes there are plenty
Thats not what ooga boogas mean
Ooga boogas are caveman
How so?
Technically when someone looks for porn and crosses that line they are no longer willing to be good loyal partners, or perhaps were always incapable. They would jump at any opportunity for cheap sex.
>watching something is as bad as doing that thing
Are you gonna say how violent video games are as bad as shootings too?
Im saying porn is degenerate. Dont change the subject.
What im saying is, you are a caveman,
Too much impulse control to be a caveman, anon
The stereotypical Chad is closer to ooga booga
You are getting the wrong picture
Yes its degenerate
But literally no one care, man or qomen, if their oartner watches it or has watched
Now men care if women are chaste, but women dkmt care about men and even prefer non virgins and players
Thats why this double standard is valid
It doesnt matter if they care or not lol. Yes I agree that men are far more selective for relationships. But a sexually degenerate past has an effect on the quality of relationships. There are some people that treat their future partners like objects because of it
Ok but its my turn to say dont change the subject
We are talking about women being bawds here
I understand that. They can be bawds in multiple ways, which I mentioned. Men reject most women.
Tall and handsome men have higher IQs, earn more money and are more likely to be CEOs and surgeons/lawyers/doctors
Frickboys arent those guys tho
They are drug addicts or dealers, bums, thugs etc
Cope. Accounting for malnutrition (non-genetic factors) causes the IQ gap to vanish between short and tall men. Differences in employment status have been found to persist regardless of ability/personality/etc. Literally height alone causes the hiring managers to hire them into those positions, even if they're incompetent. Making it objectively bad for the function of an organization.
Now between men and women there is a significant non-vanishing IQ gap in favor of men, true.
The data on this is settled science. Its hard to have sympathy for abused women when they choose to be abused.
You WILL settle for a used up bawd. You will give her your money and you WILL not be happy about it.
Same with porn watching
>implying a woman will ever reject a male because of that
Go look at FDS and other femcel boards, some roasties actually fricking SEETHE about guys being porn addicts. Even some normie women will have no more porn once you start dating semi-rules.
Tell a woman you've been watching gangbang and play-rape porn nigh daily for a decade+ and they'll think you're a deranged rapist (unless you're hot)
>unless you're hot
Thanks for proving my point. Women don't care about what you do, you can literally murder her own mother and she still won't care.
Dude women wont even let you near them if you arent a 5+/10
Women still fall into relationships with average morons and complain about it constantly. A lot of them hate porn addictions and put that as one of the reasons they leave their bfs
US is moronic enough to not let men even buy sex, and we also have the strongest anti-prostitute sentiment because of that. I don't want all women making OF or sleeping around, my sentiment isn't "prostitutes good" it's that OP is complaining about casual sex and THAT is almost an impossible standard to hold consistently without inferring that the speaker is unable to get laid.
It's pretty accepted that you won't end up with a virgin woman and a woman won't get a pure guy uncorrupted by thousands of hours of porn, crying over that is what's hard to defend. Complaining about wanton whoring is not as hard to defend, but that wasn't really OP's point and a much easier position to take.
Masturbation is not the same as getting passed around by chads. Comparing those two activities is completely retatded.
Fapping is fine, but how is watching degenerate porn not similar to fricking around? In either case your sexuality is arguably warped beyond what your partner would want. In the same way that guys accept porn watching without thought women accept hookups without thought, if you want them to reconsider you have to be willing to examine your position too.
What's next? Having pinup pictures is literally the same as participating in gangbangs?
YESSSSSS pinups are pretty tame, but a guy fapping hours every day to increasingly deranged shit is not the same as a boomer hiding a playboy in his car
>a man thinking about womens ankles is the same as a women fricking a horse
Yeah go on
nice strawman homie
Hey jannies?
I made this just for moronic foids who keep b***hing about porn.
the guy wants the strawberry though he's just unable to get it. The mind-warping is done minus the pleasure
>The mind-warping is done
If you can't even experience the activity then it can't warp your mind moron.
Its like watching someone shoot up heroin vs actually shooting up heroin. You can't be a junkie for watching someone shoot heroin.
Im gonna post that next.
You are contradicting yourself. Porn is still shooting up heroin in this example.
>watching sexual acts is exactly the same as re-enacting those very same sexual acts
You're arguing in bad faith. Women are dumb but still should be able to understand the obvious difference. Everyone agrees that porn is bad, but it is nowhere near as bad as whoring yourself out.
>my mind is not warped
>everyone who talks negatively about porn must be a woman and a prostitute
I understand your point and believe that you are basedmaxx. The problem is that you and I both know that the stimulation you get from watching pornography of many women while jerking off is a lot closer to hooking up than just "watching" someone else experience stimulation. The other anon was making the observation that a person who recreationally watches porn is fundamentally the same person that would choose to have casual sex with strangers, but if you're saying that you would happily marry a prostitute who hasn't cheated or slept around yet then yeah you simply can disagree with him.
Watching something is different than watching something while jacking off to it. You can watch a movie or look at a picture and have diverse feelings on it, but when you're stroking your wiener and making yourself cum to the image then it's hard to say you're indifferent and unaffected by what you're seeing. You're simulating sex while you watch videos of people fricking; if a person were to pretend to shoot up while watching someone shoot up heroin then that'd be a more apt comparison but no one other than broke junkies do that. A person jacking to porn probably wants to frick as well, but have emotional/anxiety complex, or social awkwardness or some other kind of shame preventing them
Obligatory response.
>unironically using the word frickmeat
demon
But thats what they are anon
Meat made for fricking
I want e girl pussy so bad
No, they dont.
Also it's not true. (You) believe it, maybe even for good reasons, but you have no power.
Simps will simp for literal porn stars. Scoring or marrying a famous prostitute will fill him with more pride then going for a virgin which will make him feel 'problematic' or 'predatory'.
Women are animals they never think about the consequences until its too late
Who the frick even wants to be wife in this day and age.
Men are worthless outside their meatstick.
I beat my ex
You can retire off of your husband's income and some other benefits. I still don't want to be married. Also the meatstick is overrated
One person income is now barely enough for one person what retirement funds lol
You are more likely to win a lottery than find a man who would be able to shoulder providing a family without them having to live in extreme frugality.
I am better off neeting in parents basements no joke.
Cant live off Onlyfans and camwhoring forever roastie. Also i want uhhh extra large mocha latte and a muffin thx
They do but they have pussies, not you
Doesn't the same apply to men then? If you just sleep around and treat women like sex objects how can you expect to find le ebin wholesome virgin waifu?
Women value men with sexual experience.
>Women value men with sexual experience.
Men value women with sexual experience too. The only reason you virgins don't is because you invert your failures into virtues to feel better about yourselves kek
A lot of projection going there bud.
>A lot of projection
Well you are on NSFFW
>Men value women with sexual experience too.
Kek ducking kek
The only people that marry bawds by choice are cuck fetishists
Men cross-culturally prefer women with fewer sexual partners when queried anonymously where they can be honest without backlash. Its independent of environment, this is a genetic preference.
Women cross culturally prefer men other women are attracted to. In sexually deviant cultures this takes the form of men who have screwed and abandoned many women. This preference is also cross-cultural and thus genetic. Essentially women reward sexually anti-social men with commitment and affection and then bitterly wonder why that behavior is reinforced and more frequently practiced. Note its the same men that commit rape, most rape is committed by sexually active men who have come to view sex as their right due to so much positive attention from women over their anti-social behavior.
There is too much freely available information on this for you to be genuinely uninformed on the subject, so you are undeniably arguing in bad faith and feigning ignorance of basic truths. You knew exactly what was meant by women value sexual experience in men, but tried to dance around the truth anyway out of an ideological motive. You're a nasty, moronic little wienerroach.
How many times have you seen a woman reject a male due to his prostitute past?
>Doesn't the same apply to men then?
No women prefer men who other women want or have had in the past. Women are naturally polygamous.
What if they were young and dumb in a relationship and naively thought he would marry her?
Tooo bad! You're a massive bawd and you don't deserve to get married! At least that's what NSFFW tells me..
OP here
Sex in a relationship isnt bad
Provided they loves each other and she wasnt a
>oh I know I only have relationships that last 2 months tops but this time Im feeling it
As if OP had any worth of his own to begin with.
You have a gift anon
You can see peoples value through a screen
Usenit wisely
There's always a man sad enough to marry them in their late 20's or even 30's after they're done getting pumped and dumped. It's never the Chad they wanted of course but they still get a ring, a wedding where they LARP as princesses and the option to get neetbux in the form of alimony.
Women are subhuman animals they dont care or process this shit at all.
I think you're the stupid mf that doesn't understand how women work, you pathetic khhv