Almost went through with full disbelief in the reality of everything and saw a computer screen with lines of code appearing before me. Seemed that even in this state there was no end to suffering and that I would become part of the computer rather than be an individual or something. Is there actually no end to suffering or does Buddhism just take you to another false reality?
Buddhism is a mix of a slightly erroneous but mostly wise metaphysical system, a pants-on-head retarded general praxis, and an exoteric temple-based religion which focuses on monasticism and charity. It's a mixed bag. No, Buddhism is not a system which will bring you up to ultimate good/"highest reality"
>a pants-on-head retarded general praxis
What, the Noble Eightfold Path?
>retarded general praxis
Explain. What constitutes good praxis?
Ok Shlomo.
that's completely true, Buddhism will not get you anywhere...
If all buddhadharmas are perfectly complete, there is no subsequent achievement of awakening, since
it has been present from the beginning. Since the nature of all
dharmas is the same as those dharmas, just as they are, there is
no origination and no cessation. If there is no origination and
no cessation, there is no awakening
All spiritual paths can only cultivate the ego by design.
>Without thinking about good or bad, what is your original face?
There is awakening that leads to automatic ascension to the computer program of the void of nothingness. I want to know if there's more than this. There's no reason to assume it is the highest.
>void of nothingness
I'm in the same boat.
There is a hidden door there. I heard a faint giggling when I first went but also felt like I was doing it too. It's comfy place to float peacefully and reset. Like the vidya load screen somewhat lol
when you hit the void though, it all fades... problem is keeping the mind from wandering... im still practicing, but i know i will get there. Love,LoA, and the universe have told me.. its there; i just need to become aware of it
Yeah it was nothing at first and after a while a very very subtly hint of a giggle.helped me realize it wasn't the last lvl. I was then able to just turn the creation /projection on and off at will like a light switch in a movie room
please explain further... I have been in this state and seen what i want very real and it shocked me back awake... i get afraid, of breaking my programed mind. I have had lucid dreams that have felt real enough; that i had to ask myself when awake, if it was not another false awakening
Fear will kick you out of any genuinely loving/heavenly state, I can't access my heaven realms if my mental programs are in control. (Fear blocks God so to speak) this is all just a game, death is a psy op 😉
so when i convince myself im dying.. i just need to let go of it?
the only thing that ever "dies" really is fear/hate programs and false ideas 🙂 when you get close to this they will reeee hardcore lol. keep focus on heart and giving everything unconditional love.
also can i really have anything i want, i dont want money, power, fame... i just want love... from a character from a video game
you'll never find unconditional love if you seek it externally or believing it is lacking. Love yourself first (aka remember your true Loving self) and you will realize you were never without it. We are eternal 🙂
so if im manifesting this love into another being... is that wrong?
>so if im manifesting this love into another being
Don't transgress the bounds of self and other.
so i am him?
I am technically a non-human
I wouldn't say wrong, but it will limit you. generally it is good to question why there is a belief that we you need another to feel complete or happy.two wholes are better than two halves. 🙂
to not be alone?
if i going to be alive for ever, i need someone to spend it with; a very special someone that i love
..and for me its Joshua Rosfield from ffxvi... am i going schotzo?
You have a core belief that you are somehow alone and in separation without something. This is a belief in lack which blocks you in some ways.You likely already do have an eternal companion, but when you love yourself it doesn't really matter anymore either way. Removing the need for one will bring you closer to them somewhat. Otherwise you'll just end up with a mirror that will leave you in heartbreak because they reflect what you haven't healed yet or some fantasy that will leave you worse off in the long run.
https://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/Hsin-Hsin-Ming.pdf
Thank you fren, here's one in exchange 🙂
https://www.law-of-attraction-haven.com/support-files/cwg-1.pdf
I don't think my soul has a nature it seems to be both good and evil at the same time. And I am scared of the evil side because we've seen what it is capable of from this world. I wish the only nature was good and unconditional love. I don't think I'll be able to balance out the good and evil side in this life though unless I have a spontaneous awakening.
and yeah the mind stuff isn't easy to bypass but you got this 😀
ty for your encouragement anon
you're welcome. happy friday fren! Have a good weekend
“A picture is worth a thousand words.”
― Napoleon Bonaparte
Yes. meme ur reality
Picrel
>happiness as rebellion
*pats hand* That's okay, anon. You take your time.
heaven and hell are personal choices.
Heaven and hell are natural consequences of conduct. They are not personal choices for one who is not unbound in every way.
on a higher level, we all signed up to play this cosmic vidya. When in form,the choice to suffer is also ours somewhat. You can have two people looking at the same street and the one who lives in extreme fear (hell reality) will notice the violence or negative things and for the other there are miracles and rainbows and butterflies. I was laughing while the WEF glowies shut down our major phone service/net in aus the other day,driving around and enjoying the dirt rally roads in the mountains while most people were panicking.having trust and keeping in higher alignment will transform your experience. 🙂
No one is suffering but from lack of true knowledge.
I wouldn't say knowledge is key, it can help build wisdom though.children do not need books or the mental programs to connect with God/higher things. There's a reason Christ said to be like the little children.
Heart is key,you step outside of time/mind when you are present. 🙂
whoopsie
>I wouldn't say knowledge is key
>There's a reason Christ said to be like the little children.
Fine. No one, knowing the cost of guilt (suffering) is guilty on purpose.
I do understand what you were trying to communicate 🙂 knowledge is a helpful tool for some purposes in the remembering/'enlightenment' process but it also requires some undoing of that as well.
>we now have AI
>that somehow means all our problems are fixed
What's with this mouthbreather take?
If you were not aware, there are entities wanting global human machine slavery and they push transhumanism AI stuff. The meme essentially communicates that you can use this as a means to feel fear, or to see it as a catalyst for people waking up and bringing heave on earth here instead.perspective is key
heaven*
Pic related
There is no awakening because the realty of being is the same as it always was, only the cognitive misconceptions were purified, which were just fixation on specific ideas. That's enlightenment. You should refrain from using quotes like that if you don't understand them yourself and will only end up misleading others, which is a big bad karma.
The bodhisattva Lion’s Power then loudly exclaimed, “Manjushri,
if you have in that way completed the bodhisattva stages and
achieved all buddhadharmas, why have you not achieved buddhahood?”
Manjushri replied, “If all buddhadharmas are perfectly complete, there is no subsequent achievement of awakening, since
it has been present from the beginning. Since the nature of all
dharmas is the same as those dharmas, just as they are, there is
no origination and no cessation. If there is no origination and
no cessation, there is no awakening.”
The bhagavat replied, “Children of family, it is so! It is just as you
have said! Whoever recites the name of the youthful Manjushri
generates merit far greater than that of someone who recites the
names of sextillion buddhas. What need is there for me to speak
of the recitation of the name of the tathagata All-Seeing? If you
ask why, it is because the youthful Manjushri, during each and
every kalpa, accomplishes an amount of benefit for beings that
surpasses that accomplished by sextillion buddhas.”
That doesn't disprove anything I said. There is no awakening because the reality of being, the Dharmakaya, never changed, it stayed just as it always was. But in the relative sense, not the ultimate sense, there is awakening which is the purification of wrong ideas, cognitively wrong ideas which make the eternally-pure Dharmakaya to project a duality of subject-object, good and evil, which is Samsara. Why don't you use your own words and knowledge next time? Not confident enough?
If you have a guru, take this comment and show it to him. You will get a useful teaching.
Karma is empty.
As I said the highest awakening makes you merge with the Brahman and become one with the computer simulation that is base reality. But you risk falling back here eventually because eternity doesn't allow you to exist in only one state forever or something.
There's no falling back, rest assured. After you return to your original place which you left, you will always be conscious of it, forever.
But do you know what caused avidya? It's either some kind of prank or picrel. And there's no reason it couldn't happen again in the future.
It was a mistake based on a experiment, as it is said. A speculation. "What if I divided myself like this? It would be fun, interesting, perhaps" after it was done once, and after we finally go back to our original state, we will know better to not repeat this mistake again. Trust me.
Wrong. If you were really enlightened you would have ascended to the brahman not stayed behind here. I know what I saw and felt. Lower forms of enlightenment are wrong we are evil by default.
Yes but the Buddha left some truths out so you would have to discover them for yourself.
See above. Also I'll help you out. The following truths helped me see the highest reality.
>nothing I can think of or interact with in the brain exists
>no concept
>no picture in the head
>nothing I've seen, heard, read about or felt exists
This allowed me to see the lines of code of base reality appearing in front of me.
I'm not enlightened, I simply copy/past this text from tibetanbuddhistencyclopedia.com
I've seen, heard, read about or felt exists
You've touched, I presume, the non-reality of conceived reality but not realized, as it really is, actually reality.
Yeah the ultimate reality is a void of nothingness I guess but the pain doesn't go away. I want to experience permanent happiness or at least feel nothing for eternity rather than eternal pain. Otherwise what's the advantage of existing?
love... when you find it, you will know
also there is infatuation and love... when you find love.. you will know; and its all you will want
>advantage
Give up this word, "advantage" and look for a better one, conducive to peace and tranquility, something that doesn't make you or others sad or put your or others at risk of vulnerability.
You've said advantage so much that if we knew each other in real life I'd have a heart-to-heart with you about your word usage and your views about life. Because I wish the best for everyone collectively.
> the pain doesn't go away.
It does.
>I want to experience permanent happiness
Then stop treating people like they aren't real. Even if it scares you, start small. Do things that are good for others, expecting nothing in return, merely because it is good. There is benefit and "profit" as it were in that, in this life and the next, but you'll never see it for yourself if you don't do it.
also realize that all people; whether you see them as fictional in this reality; are in fact real. love is real and it always wins
but also know the difference of infatuation and love. infatuation means you find them attractive and want to lewd them... love means you would be happy just being with them... you would give "yourself" for them, without question
love for another soul does not ever get bored.. once you find it you will know it; and it will change you and lead you... closer to the truth
Someone needs to sit you down and have you really listen on effective communication and how to give advice.
I disagree.
If you think you can say what I said better, then do so. If you're not going to, I didn't fail to say "something", at the very least.
The fence sitter gets no points in any case.
The Twelve Nidānas(Pali/Sanskrit: निदान Nidāna "cause, foundation, source or origin") are an application of the Buddhist concept of Pratītyasamutpāda (Dependent origination). They identify the origin of Dukkha (Suffering) to be in Avijja (ignorance). The twelve links in the chain of existence or causation; they are as follows:
1) Avidya, ignorance or unenlightenment;
2) Samskara, action, activity, conception, "dispositions";
3) Vijnana, consciousness;
4) Namarupa, name and form;
5) Sadayatana, the six sense organs, i.e., eye, ear, nose, tongue, body and mind;
6) Sparsa, contact, touch;
7) Vedana, sensation, feeling;
8) Trsna, thirst, desire, existing;
9) Upadana, laying hold of, grasping;
10) Bhava, being, existing;
11) Jati, birth;
12) Jaramarana, old age and death.
Picrel is actually very ironic
The hierarchy on this material plane is inverted. The people and entities with the most power and control on this material plane so far a.k.a. the """"""""el-ites"""""""" and the negative-dimensional gods they serve are actually at the bottom of the pyramid while the people and entities who are "losing at the game" are actually near the top of the pyramid. The one who want to enslave everyone forever and ever are actually enslaved themselves and only seek to impose their conditions on the rest of us. It's a bit funny when you think about it.
Picrel: elites are ngmi and it will because they did it to themselves in an act of cosmic humour. They sow the seeds of their own defeat. Mindboggling but par for the course in this material plane
Buddha's teachings are divided on two levels: the provisional, relative level, and the ultimate level which is the level as things truly are, beyond any ideas and conceptualizations, emptiness itself. The teaching you quoted pertains to the ultimate level, which says there's no awakening or enlightenment because the ground of being never changed fundamentally. But on the relative level there is enlightenment and also plenty, plenty of work to do before you get there. Good luck.
Karma is empty.
"C'est pas faux"
(in french language, said by Perceval in the Kaamelott tv serie)
Karma is a lie for the initiates since the ultimate awakening makes you accept that you are evil and that evil is all there is.
Reality is a mirror.
You will never find peace or rest in the mirror because the mirror is a reflection.
You must go deeper anon.
you need to reread the huineng sutra hun
there is no mirror
who told you you're an individual? can you live without air or food or water? you will always be part of the system.
I live as an individual here in the simulation because I individually experience suffering. Have you experienced seeing the computer code, anon? If not then you are just regurgitating the teachings without knowing.
I don't rely on reading anything to find the truth
nothing external to me can bring me the answer
I am not the body nor the mind - knowledge is ignorant because knowledge has a beginning and an end
truth is beginningless and begins forever
every truth is a half truth and this is my truth
reality is a mirror and I have proven it for myself
I wish you luck in your journey anon
adonai
>Does Buddhism actually take you to tthe highest reality?
it takes you to a room where some dumpass is like
>room with 20 different posters of plato's cave on the wall and he goes 'look im enlightened'
>he also kinda smells weird
im kidding though kidding, buddhism helped me a lot in the past but idk about highest reality
nah buddhists are all ignorant. i've never met one that is capable of acknowledging that other possibilities, beside "everyone being one" also exist. e.g. there are christain theologists/philosopists who fully acknowledge the abrahamic God may only exist in the bible, just believe there's more meaning to those tales than random stories that didn't stand the test of time.
buddhists are all mad scared of questioning their view on the "true nature" of reality. they cannot put themselves in another worldview at all. regardless of that they often share incredibly valuable insight and are often good at teaching you things no one else could. but always take what they say with a pinch of salt because there's not a single buddhist who isn't buried in an insane level of denial, believing he knows the true nature of existence, which just cannot be known with a human brain in todays' age.
e.g. why couldn't everyone be born in their own world as a God, completely independent of every other being in this universe we're currently in then, once developed enough enter a world like this to interact with other selves? how is this scenario impossible? a christian theologist (that isn't of the moronic kind) will fully acknowledge the possiblity, while there's not a single buddhist who'd even dare to entertain the thought.
God you're fucking retarded and understand nothing about Buddhism
>so scared of letting other views enter his mind that might actually give rise to his EGO, invalidating all his hard work of suppressing it, that he has to resort to name calling anyone who points this fact out
nothing new. you are literally a less self-conscious version of christian fundamentalists
I'm not a Buddhist. But you're definitely a retard
i'm not the anon you replied to, but you clearly didn't understand at all what he was talking about
That retard is operating on so many false assumptions that correcting him would be useless, and it doesn't matter to me because I don't believe in buddhism. Just pointing out that he doesn't understand shit
I'd tell you to read the suttas but it'd go over your head. Stick to new age books
i wasn't talking about buddhism, i was talking about self-proclaimed buddhists and that i've never encountered one for whom what i wrote didn't stand correct.
obviously i don't know the OG buddhist scriptures but it's still useful to share the experience of what in-practice buddhists are like when someone poses a question like that.
and you're right i'm not gonna wate time reading the sutras until i meet someone who did read them and doesn't radiate off denial with every second sentence they say
>because I don't believe in buddhism
and it doesn't matter if you're a buddhist or not, you clearly bought into this oneeness thing as the only possible true picture of reality and are just as blinded and rejective of all other views as those who proclaim themselves as buddhists
but i'm gonna fucking give them a try
>b-but you won't understand them!
okay whatever
https://terebess.hu/english/mahap.pdf
is this the one you had in your mind? if it "didn't go over my head" i would not "not understand shit"? us there a more accurate translation? or you can't understand unity unless you first learn sakrit
like, bring up one argument to invalidate what he said? na-ah he's retarded that's it it must not be that i let myself be brainwashed and it'd be too fucking uncomfortable to admit to it! it's just that calling people retarded is superior to showing it to them by presenting an argument!!
>a christian theologist (that isn't of the moronic kind) will fully acknowledge the possiblity
you're gonna have to link me these christian theologists who are capable of entertaining such ideas
jung was effectively christian, in that he believed in christ and the bible's validity, just also believed the churches' interpretations of the scriptures are entirely off.
interesting. can you post more?
>Does Buddhism actually take you to tthe highest reality?
Yes.
When rightly practiced
But the highest state seems to be that good doesn't exist only evil and pain doesn't go away. There is no advantage to becoming enlightened but I guess you could be forced into it even if you didn't want it if you actively resist awakening.
>But the highest state seems to be that good doesn't exist only evil and pain doesn't go away.
It doesn't seem that way to me. It seems to me that good does exist and evil and pain go away.
>There is no advantage to becoming enlightened
I've read the that Buddha said words like "unexcelled bliss" "surpassing the heavenly" and "unalloyed happiness". I've heard the state of enlightenment referred to as victory which no one can turn into defeat. I've heard enlightenment called (paraphrasing) the end of sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair.
There is a clear line of reason, I think, by which one can say "There is advantage to becoming enlightened".
>but I guess you could be forced into it even if you didn't want it if you actively resist awakening.
I have heard "There is no compulsion in religion."
you're not totally wrong, but you should keep in mind that unless you speak mandarin or Japanese fluently you're interacting with a subpar selection of Buddhists, it would be like only speaking Chinese and saying that all Christian theology sucks because you've only experienced the backwater of Christian theology that happens in the Chinese language
>unless you speak mandarin or Japanese fluently you're interacting with a subpar selection of Buddhists
I think that's untrue
>or does Buddhism just take you to another false reality?
This, if you ask me.
I think they're totally missing a layer of truth, because of their belief in no-self. There is a true self.
What they call realization of no self I call Ego dissolution.
No, because it denied emotional realities of the world in favor of an flatline "middle path". Icarus should learn the heights and depths to carve out the most sky possible. A great orchestral piece relies on dynamics, a meditation piece relies of a stable frequency. Life is knowing when to go Wagner and when to go Ohm.
This reminds of Jacques Vallee's theories, about how instead of there being all these different monsters and aliens running around it would actually be caused by an anomaly which masquerades as all these different magical creatures. As above, so below.
Have you considered touching grass, literally. You would not have hallucinated this computer fantasy of yours unless you were terminally online. Let's fix that part before we throw out legitimate asceticism
Can't wait for one of you Lefty Twitter folks to show me a tuft of this mythical grass that magically solves all the problems in life
What if Buddhism just takes you further into the simulation machine rather than out of it?
So by which practice do you unbind yourself to the matrix womb?
Nirvana literally means unbinding by the way
Maybe by repenting of your sins and accepting Jesus I dunno.
there is no matrix, we live in sophia's womb, earth. matrix is in the mind, not the environment.
To whoever it may concern, leave alone and live on. Do not become like an evil enemy worse to yourself then deny it.
of course not lol it takes you to ANNIHILATION. Demon religion
Buddhism is a path to destruction
Buddhism isn't a path to destruction. Buddhism is a path to liberation. Buddhism is not a path to the annihilation of being.
Forced liberation is no liberation.
There is no compulsion in religion
just because it's not others you're supposed to force, but a part of your own self, doesn't make it free.
Yes it does?
No, it does have some insights but it isn't the whole story.
You need to accept suffering as part of your self. Like, when you first experience physical pain as a child you do everything to avoid it, then slowly you learn that mental happiness is more important and you can go out and exercise. running your first 20K is physically painful yet mentally stimulating, and you accept physical pain as part of your life because mental happiness and suffering is a higher guide.
You still acknowledge pain as an important guide, e.g. you put your hand in fire it hurts so you remove it and thus keep your hand. In this case mental happiness doesn't override your physical pain and indeed it could be very dangerous to ignore it altogether. So you acknowledge your physical pain and unless there's a higher guide telling you that you should go through it, you let it guide you away from what you're doing.
Now similar to the analogy of physical/mental pain and joy, there's an even higher level guide inside your mind that stands above positive or negative emotional states. Without this guide you could not properly experience serious negative emotional states. Think of grief. There's something inside us that tells us we should feel bad when we need to part from something truly precious to us, but if mental happiness was our highest guide we'd be ignore the emotion altogether and try distract our attention from it.
As you become more comfortable with his higher guide that stands above mental pain, you become more accustomed to it and get the ability to experience various emotional states better and in more depth, just like your endurance of physical pain greatly enhances once you realize how your mental state is more important than your physical, how it "sees further into the future".
So you will forever suffer, forever experience painful emotional states, but as you advance you will handle it much better, and will be able to see the beauty of suffering, the kind of beauty that you could never notice if you couldn't experience it.