I'm halfway through the interpretation of dreams. Honestly it reads more like the analysis of a car engine than it does the human psyche. Freud is profoundly uninspired.
I was in a really creepy and foggy forest running from a retarded aspie (he had the headphones on and everything) only to fall in a trap that lead into a room with a few naked girls who I had sex with.
Hm. You have to have to escape (through change) your current aspie self in order to change your situation and to reach both your goals and to fuck hot chicks.
I don’t think anyone takes Feud seriously accept as a historical figure and first mover in the field. His popularisation of the theory of the unconscious of course did influence others like Jung, Bernays, and Lacan so it’s worth looking at his work just for that connection.
>influence others like Jung, Bernays, and Lacan so it’s worth looking at his work just for that connection
I would say that those writers are not worth looking at due to their connection to Freud.
His only fault is spawning the intellectual likes of Jung. His own work is massively based, innovative, genius, and hugely profound. Of course LULZ is too mid-wit to "get" him and get filtered instead.
>His own work is massively based, innovative, genius, and hugely profound. Of course LULZ is too mid-wit to "get" him and get filtered instead.
I've never heard anyone make a compelling defense of his work. The best I ever see is people claiming his bullshit is slightly better than the bullshit that proceeded it.
Every field of intellectual inquiry he influenced ended up worse because of him. He, his work, and the field of study he created are truly indefensible.
He nailed the role of opposite sex parents in the development of the child sexuality, he nailed the relationship (conceptually) between the Id, The Ego, and The Super Ego. He identified the very existence of the subconscious and how it can operate at odds to the conscious mind. He made so many fundamental contributions to human understanding that you likely take most of it for granted without even knowing it was established by Freud.
Nobody takes Freud seriously. His legacy was that he was the first person who looked at hopelessly crazy people and thought "lets try to help them, instead of chaining them to a wall for the rest of their life and blasting them with a firehose."
And now looking at what happened to mental health in the US, with special education being an utter burden on the failure that is modern education, and entire cities like Portland and Los Angeles becoming giant open air mental asylums, I wish we'd bring back the firehoses.
I unironically do. Psychology of the modern age has gone entirely in the wrong direction. Contemporary psychology is about being cognizant of your self and internal states and past. It is effectively an internal police state designed to make you weird and repressed so you keep going to work and stop complaing. Freudian psychology centers product albeit flawed psychological mechanisms that generate reality and desire. Even the prescription of cocaine was about energy and working through these issues rather correcting some flawed internal state. If you've ever been to a psychiatrist you know it's a pointless shit show so I have reason to think Freud was heading in a better direction than his contemporaries at the time who now dominate our flawed psychiatric system
Freud the what? Freud the psychoanalyst? no, not really. Freud the anthropologist? yeah for sure. Civilization and its discontents and Totem and Yaboo are two tremendously enlightening books: which first form an antidote against many rather hopeless depictions of civilization, and second are some of the best explanations I've read on how it is that arbitrary rules such as those of law and tradition get formed.
It's Amazing how much his description of superstition and religion matches up with the current popular idea of genes as the carrier of ancestral memory. Some bit of us that survives from from the fires in the caves and still occasionally tugs at us
The modern manifestation of what Freud was speaking about is cuckholdry. I suspect there are cultural influences which alter how these phenomena express themselves. Most men have a primal instinct against being cuckholded, as it is a symbolic castration. Of course, because today's society is so sexually perverted, this ultimate fear becomes inverted into a sexual thrill for some sad souls. If you take even a cursory look at modern society you will find all kinds of parallels to what Freud wrote about.
the only thing he was right about was penis envy
He has never cured a single person
Be honest LULZ, have you actually read Freud? You do read the authors you post about, right?
I'm halfway through the interpretation of dreams. Honestly it reads more like the analysis of a car engine than it does the human psyche. Freud is profoundly uninspired.
I'm a fuckin' whiz at translating dreams. Haven't met a dream yet that I couldn't beat. What do you want translated?
I was in a really creepy and foggy forest running from a retarded aspie (he had the headphones on and everything) only to fall in a trap that lead into a room with a few naked girls who I had sex with.
Hm. You have to have to escape (through change) your current aspie self in order to change your situation and to reach both your goals and to fuck hot chicks.
the headphones probably indicate that your aspie self is putting up a barrier in some way, making it hard to reach him.
You need to have sex with the retarded aspie. I must imagine that will make you very happy.
also dream interpretation books are all bullshit, because dreams are 99% context.
He's a doctor, not a poet.
I don’t think anyone takes Feud seriously accept as a historical figure and first mover in the field. His popularisation of the theory of the unconscious of course did influence others like Jung, Bernays, and Lacan so it’s worth looking at his work just for that connection.
>influence others like Jung, Bernays, and Lacan so it’s worth looking at his work just for that connection
I would say that those writers are not worth looking at due to their connection to Freud.
>don't read Bernays
What are you smoking?
Literary critics, cultural studies scholars, and continental style philosophers do whatever they can to prop him up.
Lacanians and their descendants. Look up Stephanie Swale's thesis thing, it's a modern defense of Lacanian psych.
More credible to me than CBT BS IMO
Jung was an improvement.
His only fault is spawning the intellectual likes of Jung. His own work is massively based, innovative, genius, and hugely profound. Of course LULZ is too mid-wit to "get" him and get filtered instead.
>Of course LULZ is too mid-wit to "get" him and get filtered instead
very true, many such cases
>His own work is massively based, innovative, genius, and hugely profound. Of course LULZ is too mid-wit to "get" him and get filtered instead.
I've never heard anyone make a compelling defense of his work. The best I ever see is people claiming his bullshit is slightly better than the bullshit that proceeded it.
Every field of intellectual inquiry he influenced ended up worse because of him. He, his work, and the field of study he created are truly indefensible.
He nailed the role of opposite sex parents in the development of the child sexuality, he nailed the relationship (conceptually) between the Id, The Ego, and The Super Ego. He identified the very existence of the subconscious and how it can operate at odds to the conscious mind. He made so many fundamental contributions to human understanding that you likely take most of it for granted without even knowing it was established by Freud.
Freud took most of those things from earlier 19th century philosophers, the main difference being child sexual development and incestuous complexes.
Him and Marx deserve damnato memoriae for all the shitposting they attract.
Nobody takes Freud seriously. His legacy was that he was the first person who looked at hopelessly crazy people and thought "lets try to help them, instead of chaining them to a wall for the rest of their life and blasting them with a firehose."
And now looking at what happened to mental health in the US, with special education being an utter burden on the failure that is modern education, and entire cities like Portland and Los Angeles becoming giant open air mental asylums, I wish we'd bring back the firehoses.
the marc marons of the world
I unironically do. Psychology of the modern age has gone entirely in the wrong direction. Contemporary psychology is about being cognizant of your self and internal states and past. It is effectively an internal police state designed to make you weird and repressed so you keep going to work and stop complaing. Freudian psychology centers product albeit flawed psychological mechanisms that generate reality and desire. Even the prescription of cocaine was about energy and working through these issues rather correcting some flawed internal state. If you've ever been to a psychiatrist you know it's a pointless shit show so I have reason to think Freud was heading in a better direction than his contemporaries at the time who now dominate our flawed psychiatric system
tmst
>If you've ever been to a psychiatrist you know it's a pointless shit show
Not my experience at all. You are wrong.
No
He's gnomish, so no.
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LULZ really needs to get more redpilled in its choice of discussed authors.
He laid the ground for psychoanalisis and I'm a sucker for Jung so there's that.
No
Freud the what? Freud the psychoanalyst? no, not really. Freud the anthropologist? yeah for sure. Civilization and its discontents and Totem and Yaboo are two tremendously enlightening books: which first form an antidote against many rather hopeless depictions of civilization, and second are some of the best explanations I've read on how it is that arbitrary rules such as those of law and tradition get formed.
It's Amazing how much his description of superstition and religion matches up with the current popular idea of genes as the carrier of ancestral memory. Some bit of us that survives from from the fires in the caves and still occasionally tugs at us
i honestly think you have to have very little experience or interaction with actual people to not take freud seriously
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reading him right now
The modern manifestation of what Freud was speaking about is cuckholdry. I suspect there are cultural influences which alter how these phenomena express themselves. Most men have a primal instinct against being cuckholded, as it is a symbolic castration. Of course, because today's society is so sexually perverted, this ultimate fear becomes inverted into a sexual thrill for some sad souls. If you take even a cursory look at modern society you will find all kinds of parallels to what Freud wrote about.