whats the use case for games in the life of a man of 21yo+?
escapism from the man made horrors of society
Average propreitary games are harmless it's the kernel anticheats that likely could be sniffing everything on your system
>escapism from the man made horrors of society
that's what movies and tv shows are for
you mean media, which include games.
except no one watches TV for 12 hours a day every day and that's the issue with you obsessed, cringey, competitive gaymers
you can't just play games like a normal person and put it down to go socialize like a normal fucking person, you need to be playing it every waking moment and then you come here trying to compare it to watching TV
fuck off with this dishonesty and just admit that (at the very least "competitive") games are nothing like actual media that is an accessory to your life rather than your entire life
>no one watches TV for 12 hours a day every day
Are you sure?
Maybe if you played fewer videogames you'd realize there are millions of people that waste 100% of their time doing shit much less interesting than even TV, and millions more DO only watch TV
>i'm obsessed so everyone else is too
that's not how it works
most people don't even have enough time to watch TV for as long as you little kids are able to play video games for
when they are given an opportunity to socialize, they don't give it up to stay home watching TV, that's the fucking difference
then you "self-diagnose" yourself with fucking ~~*ADHD*~~ or some other made up bullshit rather than admitting that your obsession with childish video games gives you absolutely nothing
the main issue however is that your """hobby""" benefits literally no one; no one benefits from you playing games and it's simply a self-serving activity as opposed to some other hobby like music, programming, or diy which can not only benefit you but other people as well
it's all well and good if you play games though but don't try to come on here comparing yourself to well-adjusted people and saying that you're not anything but pathetic because that kind of cope is easy to spot
I haven't played a game in like 2 years. I'm just pointing out that claiming your addiction "isn't a real addiction I just like watching TV sometimes" is exactly the same as any gamer would say
i never said it wasn't or that it couldn't be an addiction
you CAN get addicted to either but if there is one that is more potent than the other it's undoubtedly video games by a massive stretch
That's fair, I only read the first 2 lines, one of which was greentext
I find that the input of retards gets less valuable as their post goes on, so I don't read everything.
least aryan post HOLY BASED this makes the addict gooomers seethe
theres a few things to point out though
playing video games 12 hours a day doesn't have to be osu or cs:go or dota 2 or whatever. you can be a casual gamer and play 12 hours of whatever every day and not try to get autistically good at it like a competitive gamer
this makes competitive gamers not really comparable to tv/youtube bingers because there's no real competitive aspect to watching tv other than maybe bragging you saw the entirety of a show before all your friends, which is a lot like competitive reading we had as schoolkids
now im not actually sure people binge 12 hours every single day because thats literally waking up, doing nothing but watching tv and then going to bed as your routine
you can't play most casual games for 12 hours a day, it's just not possible
for instance, games that are basically just a campaign like Tomb Raider have only so many hours you can put in that even if you put in 12 hours a day you'll be done with it within two weeks or less; and that's how most of these casual games are like
games like Minecraft or Skyrim/Fallout come into question but they're not really much different from competitive games as far as timesink and I'm just making generalized statements as i'm confident it will cover the vast majority of people who play video games, especially if you're on LULZ or LULZ
the fact of the matter is that people who tend to watch TV/Movies rather than playing games aren't going to be consuming it at the same level of people playing video games--in this case, specifically competitive timesink games (OP)--as it just doesn't typically happen for most people
also, this is LULZ, you should be spending time learning VIM/Emacs or C/C++ or literally anything technology related
there's no reason why you shouldn't play video games normally (which always means discarding these competitive trash games) and sticking to games that are purely just for fun
if you see my screenshot previously, you see that i specifically filter out multiplayer games
i play games but after decades of wasting my time, i realized that competitive/multiplayer games suck the time out of your day and you never get anything productive done
right now i'm playing Black Mesa, i tend to put in 0-2 hours every day and when i'm finished playing, i just do something else like learn some other piece of technology, my life isn't consumed by playing video games
however, most people on here don't actually do that, namely anyone who attempts to try to compare playing video games to watching TV which just doesn't work and precisely my point
ye u cant play a linear third person action adventure with 2 hours of content for 12 hours a day
but you can also buy another game and play that and suddenly youre gaming all day every day
i couldnt do that, i have to be doing something real with my life so i dont have much screentime
yes anon lets spend 12 hours of our days watching mainstream goyslop, youtube ads and tiktok like normal people
you are talking about (YOU) thoughbeit
in the year of our lord 2023 we have a name for sitting for 12 hours straight watching TV shows. it's called binging and people do it all the fucking time.
12 hours is an excessively long time even for bingers. that means you wake up, start watching tv, and do that straight into the night
competitive gamers are more like that where they wake up, game, do the bare minimum to keep themselves alive and sleep
They stopped making movies after 1991, last tv show they made was Xena and I've already watched all the episodes.
TV makes you dumb and brainwashes you with israeli propaganda.
I haven't owned a TV in 20 years, and it's really hard not to notice that I'm surrounded by retards whose political opinions are 100% just BS they heard on TV.
Video games can be a positive thing if you don't overdo it.
Puzzle and strategy games stimulate your brain.
Text-heavy games like RPG's are great for learning foreign languages (I can read half a dozen languages now because I made it a rule for myself not to play video games in my native language).
>escapism from the man made horrors of society
You mean like GaaS?
>Average propreitary games are harmless it's the kernel anticheats that likely could be sniffing everything on your system
Instead of just sniffing everything that matters?
Last time I played video games, I used Firejail to prevent access to my external drive and documents.
playing lego games with your son
I cant spot the use case, why not play football or some other sports with him and get him to socialize with other kids while you meet their parents and make friends.
Why not both?
no use case for both since too many hobbies and too much time spent on escapism and timewasters leads to stunted growth and falling behind in life.
Works on my machine
Hooligans chasing balls are invariably dumb.
It's best that you keep your kids away from such baneful influences.
Sports/fitness/socialization is considered important/desired in our society and intelligent people find going against the grain and failing to integrate as bloat.
>Sports/fitness/socialization is considered important/desired in our society
Almost no one of value would play [running after a ball sport]. If you are so bent on leveraging "sports" as a shared activity for the purposes of socialisation, then take your kid hunting, golfing, skiing, etc.
hunting is a failed incel hobby and would probably turn him into a school shooter + in our climate associating with guns makes you look like a incel, golfing is for older people. skiing is a fun sports, i agree with that one
making shitty small games for videogame addicts to make cash.
Don't play games, sell games.
Same as chess, cards or tabletop games: have fun.
Every game is proprietary, and the ones that aren't are very obviously soulless clones of preexisting games, but there's a handful that are ancient as shit, so they've had their code released to the public, reverse engineered, or leaked. The part gamers don't like is anti cheat or DRM doing spooky shit on your PC.
The shitty FSF libre dogma doesn't transfer over to games, because IP drives most of gaming, not whether it works or not like software.
Why would I not? Most of things in the world are proprietary.
I avoid current online games because of their invasive anti-cheat systems
I learned my lesson from StarForce
i dont trust video games anymore. theyre buggy at best and literal spyware/malware at worst
OP here, I'm asking about malware, not if they're good or bad.
Do you trust your games not to do bad things to your computer?
I read EULAs and TOSs a lot nowadays, but even then, I don't completely trust them as well. Although in theory, companies are bound by law to do what they say.
ideally you should run absolutely nothing proprietary on your hardware at all
games are an easy thing to axe since theyre buggy and complicated and can be doing anything
I just have proprietary firmware and Nvidia GPU drivers running.
I plan to replace Nvidia with NVK once it works and is easy to enable.
I switched to the open kernel modules as well.
Video games are this kind of guilty pleasure thing I like to do now and then, when taking a break from university work or life in general.
ok so while im not saying just stop gaming entirely, probably stop playing modern games
games that make network requests, games that have anticheat, etc
youd be surprised how many games you can play with open source software since emulators are open source. the games are proprietary but they aren't downloading garbage microtransaction content or connect to servers.
and if you don't mind downloading every tf2 hat, you can also host cs:s and tf2 servers to play with your friends
its really just modern games that are super untrustworthy.
I've been playing OpenMW and a few other video games, but I like strategy games as well.
The biggest worry is that quite a lot of these games bring in a ton of proprietary dependencies, that make you have to trust third parties as well.
right and thats even more of an issue
for me ive been playing ion fury which has its engine open sourced https://voidpoint.io/terminx/eduke32
if you wanna play a boomer shooter tho doom is fully open source (if you use freedoom) and has an extensive list of wads
it really comes down to how much you trust the game you're playing, you can go full autism and just not game at all but theres still some out there that arent cancer running on your pc
I just wish more games were at least source available.
Barotrauma supposedly is, but you need to build use .NET 6 to build it, and Microsoft has weird build instructions for it, and I don't trust their binaries.
thats the other issue, how much do you trust the source even when you have it and do you trust all of its dependencies
hell do you even trust your compiler
but at that point ur probably too far gone
I think there's a healthy dose of paranoia. Open source at the very least tells me the culture of the developer(s) and makes me trust them more, because they trust me.
yeah like if theyre willing to give you full source code and someone actually audits it, youre supposed to be good
so far ive not been screwed in that way before so knock on wood
I've been playing Neverwinter Nights, since it's also native on Linux. That game at least doesn't spy on me (as far as I know...)
Quake, morrowind and Stalker. do u rly need more?
I get the need to keep their code closed source, but I don't like all the anti-cheat, anti-piracy, and launcher bullshit their publishers use.
No, they're probably running some bullshit in the background that you gave permission to do because you forgot to read the comically-small fine print between two lines.
>valorant introduces new feature which marks you on the map for everybody if you watch your enemies stream to "stream snipe" them
>only way the game could know this is by constantly looking at your browsing history
>most players think this a good thing
just nuke compfags already
I have pirated games since I was 12. I am 34.
I don't even know how Steam/Epic/GOG works, lol.
yes when they run under WINE.
Not when they install root kits like pic related.
No. Valorant tracks:
>files on all your drives
>tpm hardware id
>drive names/volume ids
>disk serial numbers
>gpu serial number
Among other things. It also takes periodic screenshots using a secret NVIDIA/AMD backdoor and sends them back to Riot.
Wow it's just like Discord™
Why would I use one OS install for toys and secure needs? You're stupid.
what does valve do for anti hacking? dota and tf2 run fine as normal users, dont' need root or any shit
but useless if it's usermode
that is the general consensus of vac yes
i try to avoid those types of games
these days i dont have much time to game anyway
Obviously you run your goyish software on its own ssd lol I play final tranasy 14 on one ssd
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