do you reckon cis people can feel gender dysphoria? why/why not?

do you reckon cis people can feel gender dysphoria? why/why not?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They feel body dysmorphia, certainly.
    Especially women and incels do.
    Dysphoria has to do with gender and since cis people like their gender they can't feel that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      you mean dysphoria in the "brain/body" mismatch kind of way?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah.
        It's a different feeling.
        A cis person can feel bad they don't look like stacy or giga chad but they can't comprehend the experience of their body and brain being fundamentally mismatched.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >A cis person can feel bad they don't look like stacy or giga chad
          isn't that kinda the same deal that trans ppl get though once they start transitioning? they feel like they don't look enough like their goal which causes anxiety

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can't speak for everyone but I'd say they're slightly different feelings. Like I've been transitioning for so long that my dysphoria is really tiny and now the htings I'm self conciouse about or want to change about my body are pretty normal things, like I want to change them and I wish they were different, but it feels so different from before I transitioned, it's in another league. But it's not like a switch suddenly flips when you start HRT or anything, dysphoria faded really really slowly over years and years until I could look back and notice what I feel now is different to what I used to feel.

            Is it still dysphoria? I mean yeah, but it's not DYSPHORIA as I used to know it.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      body dysmorphia is a totally different thing from dysphoria
      you conflate the two because the words sound similar, that's all

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why are genitals immune to body dysmorphia then? As in we have more people who literally want to bisect themselves in half than with a BDD of the genitals diagnosis.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Why are genitals immune to body dysmorphia then?
          who says they are?
          I'm not sure what you're trying to say

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >genitals are immune to body dysmorphia

          try telling that to every single "increase your dick size" ad you see on sketchy ass sites

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It would be like calling the attraction between too men straight

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    thank god nintendo learned their lesson and stopped link from crossdressing in the new game

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cringe take

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      uuuhm,,,,

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      no one tell him

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      link crossdressing had me jerking off to femboys for a while

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well yeah right like it's just for the gender they were assigned at birth. Like lots of cis women will feel there body isn't femine enough and it can obviously cause severe distress yk. Its the same feeling trans people have just exacerbated because their body is further from their ideal body. We obviously call it something else but it's the same feeling for both

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    can a gay person feel a type of gender dysphoria from internalized homophobia?

    or am i just trans

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      that is what being trans is

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It wold be absolutely astonishing for someone to internalize homphobia but not transphobia and thus wanna transition lol

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, that would be so weird
        wouldn't it

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dude just say what you mean moron, it would litteraly just be unlikely imo

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, that would be so weird
      wouldn't it

      oh you're talking about yourself arent you

      yea, gayanon, it at least makes logical sense in the "do i wanna be him or do i wanna be with him" kinda way

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah
    Cis men do all the time what with their leg lengthening surgeries and gynecomastia top surgeries. Top surgery for gynecomastia isn’t medically necessary because gynecomastia is normal for men, but they get them removed because it makes them feel bad/too feminine (sometimes). Dysphoria.
    Cis women getting laser hair removal is the same thing in my eyes.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      i want to get leg lengthening surgery and i'm a pooner
      t. unpassable (5'2") height haver with a stunted childish frame, narrow shoulders, and an overall incredibly clocky bone structure very uncanny for a male. my (fem-leaning) androgynous face does not negate this

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    Like in the case let's say they are a cis guy and put in a place where they would appear feminized. They would experience gender dysphoria because they identify as male, not female.
    That's the point of that one study that zoomer chuds like to post about where some quack doctor did feminizing surgery on a cis guy who didn't have gender dysphoria and, surprise, he became dysphoric.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that the plot of a movie too? I'm not sure the name

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes. i am a cis man and experience gender dysphoria (i take estrogen to help relieve it)

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    My honest opinion (pic related)

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    micropeen havers probably do

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    a cis manlet with a small dick and no beard is in the exact same situation as a trans guy

    and both should get government funded testosterone, a gym membership, and whatever surgical help science can provide.

    the same applies to cishons and trannies.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based
      Post-menopausal cis women already take HRT to keep them healthy and feminine

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    women with PCOS can get gender dysphoria

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based on the bits of medical literature I've seen (admittedly I'm not in the field, but it's of interest to me), I'd hazard an off-the-cuff guess that about half of cis people are capable of experiencing gender dysphoria.
    This is based on studies of fetus development disorders that result in people born without any genitalia. There was a certain school of thought in medicine (likely falling into disrepute by now, but it's pretty disgusting it existed as long as it did) that they should be raised as woman in that case, unless proven otherwise. So there were a number of XY individuals who were given genital reconstruction surgery to resemble female genitalia and treated with hormones. It's not a huge sample size, but it exists. And of that group about half were like, "Nah, frick this, I know I'm a man," and about half were like, "Ehh, whatever, I guess I'm a girl. Doesn't mean I can't be a tomboy though."
    So I think about half of cis people, if they were forcibly transitioned, could be convinced to remain transitioned with the right therapy to get over the shock, while another half would get gender dysphoria bad enough they want to detransition back to what they were before.

    Interestingly, I'd also suspect that if about 0.5% of the population right now is trans/non-binary and experiences gender dysphoria, I think there's an additional 0.5% of the population who were "born in the wrong body" but are incapable of feeling gender dysphoria and so never feel an impetus to transition.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"born in the wrong body" but are incapable of feeling gender dysphoria
      What do you mean by this? Someone who cannot fit in with the gender norms of their assigned sex, someone who wants to be the opposite sex but doesn't feel dysphoric about it, or something else entirely?

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Define dysphoria

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      a useful abstraction for a world that expects psychiatry to utilise the scientific method (which it can't, not really)

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They can feel dysphoria ("state of unease or generalized dissatisfaction with life") in general over a lot of things but if they specifically have gender dysphoria then you can't really call them cis anymore. The closest feeling cisgenders have to gender dysphoria is body dysmorphia or social insecurity derived from real or perceived inability to meet their own gender's beauty or behavioral standards.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if they specifically have gender dysphoria then you can't really call them cis anymore
      what about balding cis men or manboobs cis men or post-mastectomy cis women? Real question, not arguing, just wondering if it fits in.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gender dysphoria happens because of mismatch between biological sex and internal gender identity.
        >balding cis men
        They're upset because they don't meet male beauty standards and because it is a visible sign of aging and decay. They are not upset about balding because they internally feel like women who shouldn't go bald, but because it makes them feel ugly and closer to death. Balding is masculine, but they're not upset about it for that reason. Even twinks who don't want to bald still want to be male and masculine in their own neotenous way.
        >post-mastectomy cis women
        This one has more to it I think because breast removal makes the chest more masculine. You see this in cis women who were ftm trenders and had mastectomy. I think that's a special case though, like men who lose their penises in accidents. So I guess people who are deformed by accidents or choice (i.e. taking T or getting SRS as trenders) can be cis with dysphoria

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Even twinks who don't want to bald still want to be male and masculine in their own neotenous way.
          this also applies to fttwinks/twinkpoons

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This one has more to it I think because breast removal makes the chest more masculine.
          Kind of, but from my cis perspective a female rib cage without breasts looks sunken and unfinished.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah I experienced gender dysphoria when I developed boy breasts at 13 and constantly got harassed and molested because of it

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    cis people understand dysphoria perfectly well when talking about detransitioners
    they simply have zero empathy for trans people

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    seems reasonable to categorize the discomfort that a cis guy with gyno or a cis woman with PCOS virilization might feel as being the same kind of thing as gender dysphoria, albeit to a smaller degree

  19. 10 months ago
    Just a girl who likes frogs

    in general, cis normies have no real concept of gender beyond surface level constructs like boy=blue and girl=pink

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