Do we have any unironic Wicca practitioners here? Like people who have actually read books written by Gerald Gardner and other influential figures?
If yes, what prompted you to pick Wicca over other paths? How do you cope with the reputation of shallowness that the movement is affected by?
Genuinely curious
Trans witch here I just do spells on my enemies
I'm not a witch but I think they usually learn from others rather than directly learning from books. Are there many women on /x/?
>the reputation of shallowness that the movement is affected by?
This is an internet thing, and ironically it's shallow for you to ask how other people perceiving them affects them. People take them no less seriously than neopagans and new-agers, there's a huge crossover anyway.
>Are there many women on /x/?
Many? No. But you can find a few in astrology threads
just FYI pentagrams dont mean what you think they mean
>muh 5 elements
>muh 5 fold kiss
>muh satans goat head
you wiccans have a very low understanding of the occult. nobody has read any of that trash because the only people drawn to wicca are illiterate retards.
What about you, have you read them?
no lmao I have more important shit to read, like the fallout 3 manual, or animorphs
its not too hard if you study. 5 is the number of pain and growth. 5 thorns through one tongue make 7 drops of blood fall to the earth. do you understand?
I should do it myself, did in the past a bit and was kinda appaled.
Why would something so unintuitive be the true meaning of it? Why is your definition more valid than what other people say it means?
its ultimate meaning is perfection, pseud. geometrically it fits the golden ratio.
Why don't you tell us what it really means then?
I like wicca but like the other anon said it's not a very advanced path. which can be a great thing, just mindlessly doing ritual and raising your vibes. I would completely drop all my occult knowledge and do that if I wasn't so evil. I have worked evil occult rituals many times and I regret it. anything I do in Wicca would be tinged with the evil I have done.
What is an advanced path?
Pretending to be spiritual online
pretty much anything you really study energetically and take serious. thelema, HOGD, real hermeticism and kabbalah. you can even do exoteric religions like Hinduism and buddhism and take those serious and get farther than wicca. if you become a full out yogi you're on an advanced, albeit essentially mindless path compared to thelema. everyone in the universe is as important and valid as everyone else though, regardless of what path they are on.
>pretty much anything you really study energetically and take serious.
So wicca?
you can for sure. but then you're just using other people's sigils and rituals and if you understand things that deep, why not make your own or follow another system?
>why not make your own or follow another system?
So you made that meaning up, then presented it as a true meaning to feel smart?
ignore this post, won't delete since you'll reply to it anyway
what are you talking about? wicca has meaning to people. you can take it deep, but you will never learn as much as, say, thelema. it's just not in the system. that doesn't mean what you do in Wicca is invalid or worse in any way.
>Wicca is not serious
>but Thelema is
Rofl, lmao even. Thelema was just pre-WW2 New Age
>Gematria is a metathesis of the Greek word γραμματεια . It is based on the relative numerical values of words. Words of similar numerical values are considered to be explanatory of each other, and this theory is extended to phrases. Thus the letter Shin, Sh, is 300, and is equivalent to the number obtained by adding up the numerical values of the letters of the words RVCh ALHIM, Ruach Elohim, the spirit of Elohim; and it is there fore a symbol of the spirit of Elohim. For % = 200, V = 6, Ch = 8, A = 1, L = 30, H = 5, I = 10, M = 40; total = 300. Similarly, the words AChD, Achad, Unity, One, and AHBH, Ahebah, love, each = 13; for A =1, Ch = 8, D = 4, total = 13; and A = 1, H = 5, B = 2, H = 5, total = 13. Again, the name of the angel MTTRVN, Metatron or Methraton, and the name of the Deity, ShDI, Shaddai, each make 314;3 so the one is taken as symbolical of the other.
this is from one paragraph of Liber LVIII, which is one of Crowleys main writings on Kabbalah.
Ok, so lets get practical, suppose the mafia goes after your ass, what thelema would you use?
I don't think this dispels the point, anon
point me to one new age resource that has anything similar in complexity to 1 page of a Crowley liber,
Complexity doesn't matter if it's just a larp.
I don't care about complexity if it's the kind of complexity that only makes sense to whoever has written it
that shit made perfect sense to me, but like I said I'm probably more advanced. you can get there too, doesn't really matter. like I said earlier, I would drop all this and become a wiccan if I hadn't tainted my reality.
What evil shit have you done?
You got ritually buggered, innit? Got the old kundalini up ye chakra?
What's done is done. If you want salvation, why not look into orthodox christian mysticism? Or advaita vedanta, not much of a difference.
Yeah, once I saw a guy pull out a rabbit out of a hat, now that's REAL magic.
>that shit made perfect sense to me
care to explain how?
Inb4 you wouldn't get it/I am not allowed to share secrets with the uninitiated
People who denigrate wicca contrasted against thelema really haven't spent time with a serious initiatory coven in the last 30 years.
Wiccans are gay as shit dude, no exceptions.
>Wiccans are gay as shit dude
My humble experience is that people who identify as "LGBT" (and even base their all lives around this identity) are not religious/spiritual in any meaningful way, given that they not only identify with their ego (meaning they are not Right-path) but also with a very mundane type of ego (meaning they are not Left-path either).
I really cannot take seriously people who openly talk about their sexuality and kinks
Once again /x/ demonstrates it doesn't even have basic, introductory, day zero, wikipedia tier knowledge about the stuff. Picrel will never be a lived reality for you, so you bitch and whine about how gay it is.
The "reputation" is a blind. Mind you, I'm not initiated either, at least into a Gardnerian coven, but I've been in contact with Gards for some time, and practice a cousin tradition. Even then, what you see in books are snapshots of practices, from early drafts (online) to more recent compilations (less online but still out there). Each coven is a cell that is going to develop the Work along its own lines with its own insights based on the capacities of the group. I'm thrilled about the bad reputation it has because it keeps the folks that we don't want, like the two I replied to above, from even learning about the actual system.
I didn't pick Witchcraft, it picked me, from being one of the "hurr gay" morons, from other more "orthodox" occult organizations. Its Alexandrian which means the baseline is a bit garbled but Farrar's "Witches Bible" is one of the more complete snapshots we have, if you don't mind that it comes from the early 80s and is still probably undercooked given the dynamics of coven formation (Alexander smuggling what he could out, recompiling it, adding his own twist, Janet taking it back closer to baseline, then publishing it, without much of the elaboration that you'd find in older cells).
>oooh, I do evil
You raise taxes que n vidya?
In vidya, mobile phone sperged
think car crashes, disease, conflict, making people so angry they do stupid shit. if you don't know this is energetically possible I'm going to stop talking to you.
Name one prominent wiccan time and I will look into it
Wicca came about at a time that was like: here's the secrets but not really.
Ok lads, thelema, druidry or wicca?
Wicca into Druidry.
>druidry or wicca
these are supposed to be the same thing
>thelema is very magickial
Kek
see
probably die but that means I fucked up enough with my manifestation to get to that point. or it's just a random even of the universe, in which case I'd have to fight or flight.
Oh, so your schizo of magick doesn't teach real magick? It's all a larp, a threadmill wirh lots of irrelevancy?
I can throw it to the trash then?
like I said, you can manifest not being killed by people. you can manifest barriers against all conflict in your life magickally. you can manifest money and power. I don't know what other magick you want.
What about murdering the fuckers?
I said fight or flight. you could manifest you winning that too, but what type of fight is that.
if you can't garner the metaphysical truth from that basic shit I posted then you need to do some work. writing everything off as a larp is pretty fuckin stupid when Nobel prize physicists say at the bottom of the cup of physics is God.
>Manifesting
babby's first magic
This thread is filled with insufferable fake snobs. Surprising the types wicca brings out.
I honestly don't mind them. The bpd feminists who are too insincere to even say they believe in it beyond "therapeutic reasons" have given it a bad name, but the normal nature enjoying girls who are a bit autistic about astrology are nice to talk to.
Oi.
I was trained in these arts.
What'd'y'want?
>What'd'y'want?
OP here, the questions are right there in the first post. Answer them if you feel like it
The surface does it's job.
ss prison tatts feel the difference already
wicca (hecca)