Do Spain and Portugal ever identify with their Arab ancestors?

Do Spain and Portugal ever identify with their Arab ancestors?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is that Kingdom between Navarra and Catalonia?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aragon's humble beginnings.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So that makes purple Leon and red Asturias? Sorry, my knowledge of Preconquista Spain is limited.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Red is Castille. Leon was the direct successor of Asturias.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But if Castille is on the map, and Andalusia is still so big, why is Galicia not on the map? Didn't Alfonso unite them all and kick off the Reconquista?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Reconquista goes way before the creation of Castille. Both Castille and Portugal are offshoots of the Kingdom of Leon.
              Some people claim the Kingdom of Galicia was a direct successor of the Suevi Kingdom, but that's just stupid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Instead of slowly bothering you with asinine questions is there a good free (English) source for the subject?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    R1b

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >arab
    Al andalus was multiethnic/mulicultural
    There was arabs, berbers, iberian/visigothic/roman converts, slavs etc...

    Majority of the population in Al andalus were local converts btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Iberians were a minority and a few exception aside, they occupied inferior positions such as peasants, sewer cleaners, maids, singing girls, tanners, dyers, etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >millions of iberians being replaced by 20k berbers and arabs

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is what genetic evidence shows.

          >20k
          There was a continuous flow of colonizers into Andalus and polygamy allowed them to grow quickly.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how and from where? north africa was pretty sparsely populated. given that there is very little besides the coast line. pretty sure the germanic invaders of north africa in late antiquity left more of a mark there then vis versa then vise versa in Spain genetically.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              North Africa is more populated than Iberia and there's no genetic evidence that Germanic left any trace in NA but there's plenty of evidence that they did in Iberia - see Olalde et al. 2019. Basically you're just coping.

              >Nevertheless, individual sites bear witness to events in this period, for example at the 6th century site of Pla de l’Horta in the northeast. These individuals, archaeologically interpreted as Visigoths, are shifted from those at L’Esquerda in the direction of north/central Europe (Figs. 1D, ,2C2C and table S18), and we observe the Asian mtDNA haplogroup C4a1a also found in Early Medieval Bavaria (20), supporting a recent link with groups with ultimate ancestry from central/eastern Europe.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i dont look into genetic studies stuff really, so I wont comment there, just historiographically, the populations dont make sense.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is not uncommon for Arabs to have more than one wife in rural areas where they live in the past, hell it's not rare to see people with 10 wives in the Maghreb. 20,000 men can easily have 100,000 wives between them in the first generation. This polygamy also made Arabs/Muslims OP in the medieval age since catastrophic losses were easily replaced by all the spare women being scooped up by a few men. Also why inbreeding is so high in those areas

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you're either a shitskin or troon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes I am Spanish and yes I am brown and yes I identify as Arab Berber African Gypsy and yes I don't want to be wh*te like Angloids.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        great, you should live like them too

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seething pigskin detected.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The "Arabs"(arabised Hispano-Berbers) were actually mass expelled and generalplanned in the Reconquista. The modern population of these areas chiefly resembles Ancient North Iberians and does not have continuity to Andalusians. Only Canarians resemble Andalusians, and this is almost certainly not due to direct ancestry but just because Guanches were also Berber-like.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In Northern Portugal, we insult people from the South by calling them Moors

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If spaniards are arabs why is there such a big IQ gap between these two groups?

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