Do evil people deserve to suffer?

Do evil people deserve to suffer?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why not?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rehabilitation of the evil must be facilitated with love and compassion. The evil will not internalize compassion and morality through being afflicted.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Supposing that an evil person dies, should he be punished in the afterlife?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Rehabilitation of the evil must be facilitated with love and compassion
          You're conflating people who are criminal with people who are evil. Criminals can be rehabilitated if not for their own sake, but for the sake of society, because one day they'll rejoin it. Genuinely evil people cannot be rehabilitated.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds gay, lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All christians are secretly homosexuals

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Evil people won't/can't/don't want to internalize it, that's why they're evil

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >with love and compassion
          why, also they didn't care about love and compassion before

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can be redeemed, but as long as we seek to punish and not reform them we can't accomplish such a task. Ideally you would want to seek the root of their evil deeds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't want to redeem them I want to punish them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't want
        >I want
        I too would want to punish them if they brought their misdeeds to me or my loved ones, but if I acted just by what I want and not by what I think is best then I would not be better than an animal. I was given reason to act to the best of my capacity as a human being and as such I should help othes realize their greater selves even if they have made mistakes in the past.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I AM AN ANIMAL

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The moment you were given reason you became part of something greater. You may opt to live your life as an animal, but you will find yourself unable to realize the reason of your being.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Get your head out of the clouds and into the REAL WORLD.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They deserve punishment. All evil is transgression against the LORD, and His Justice demands that they who do evil receive the due recompense for their deeds.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Only if their suffering will prevent more suffering

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Suffering is a feature, not a bug. Utilitarianism completely misses the point

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and as most people make other conscious beings suffer (cow/pigs/chickens), they are evil and deserve to suffer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God causes the most suffering to conscious beings so he deserves the most suffering of all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We are greater than the beasts of the land. Animals are beneath us. Livestock specifically bred to be our food deserve to serve our needs.

      Get your head out of the clouds and into the REAL WORLD.

      Enjoy living in the fields animal fucker

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm special because...because uhh...
        >ur dum and u do the sex with animal lol
        Men kill, men eat, men fuck, men shit, and men die. You are functionally identical to an animal and no amount of garden gnome pilpul will ever change that. From the viewpoint of an omniscient 3rd party observing your behavior, there's nothing that distinguishes you from any of the other Great Apes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What distinguishes us from the apes is that we have the ability to actually give praise to God while an animal cannot conceive what God is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >conscious
      Very funny since most animals cannot quantify their consciousness.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Define "deserve."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to merit, qualify for, or have a claim to (reward, punishment, aid, etc.) because of actions, qualities, or circumstances

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What is "merit" then? Most dictionaries just define merit in terms of desert. This is very vague. Give an actual philosophical definition instead of just copying from an online dictionary.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is "merit" then? Most dictionaries just define merit in terms of desert. This is very vague. Give an actual philosophical definition instead of just copying from an online dictionary.

      >UMMM…. DEFINE THAT!
      >NO.. WRONG! DEFINE THAT WORD YOU USED IN YOUR DEFINITION!
      >INCORRECT… I WON !

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        calm down loser

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, evil people is your regular Saville, not little timmy who touched his dick on pascha.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but not eternally.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bump

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Define "evil people
    Define "evil"
    Define "suffer"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No u

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course, that's how victims who aren't cucks get compensation.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    humans don't have free will. Nobody deserves anything. But if you get a bullet to the head for raping someone, you "deserved" it in the same way Steve Irwin "deserved" getting killed for bothering a stingray. The stingray doesn't have free will, it just reacts to each environment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. Stingray

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone deserves to suffer because conquering your demons is one of the most empowering things you and it's key for understanding who you are as a person.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    deserve's got nothing to do with it.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to help them learn

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    No one is an "evil person", no "actions are evil", "evil" refers to intentions.
    It's not the motion nor the motioner, it's the motive.
    It's not the tool nor its user, not even the usage, it's the reason of the usage.

    Evil is unbound sadism, the desire to do harm for the sake of doing harm. It needs no justification, it has none, if an action has justifications then it cannot be considered to be motivated by evil. It becomes manifest through actions but starts off as intentions.
    Doing harm to someone directly or indirectly, tormenting, injuring, killing or destroying... That someone has to be considered part of the doer's group, within the same society, like an equal.

    Evil is ill will, the pervertion of Volition.

    Those prone to evil, those with a sick will, need to be dealt for. Either their will is healed or it is extinguished.
    Pointless suffering isn't going to do much, it might very well spread evil among those wishing for it. In fact, wishing for pointless suffering could very well be seen as evil, unbound sadism.
    If any suffering is needed, it is for their correction... or, if can't do, their execution. The goal being removing the evil before it does more damages... or even spreads.

    Evil is an illness, an illness of the Will. It's not just their victims, those motivated by evil suffers from it as well. The same way hedonists suffer from pleasure. A pervertion, a cancer, a blight.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sure
    eternal suffering?
    no
    Christcucks are just sadistic

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hell= a lack of god
    Evil people bring the suffering upon themselves.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would a Buddhist master suffer without God? There are plenty of happy people who don’t believe in God. What exactly will make them unhappy in some sort of afterlife?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As already pointed out, “deserve” is very vague. Maybe you want to ask if these people should suffer, but “should” is based on a goal. For what purpose should these people suffer? If it’s to rehabilitate them, then that makes sense. But an eternal hell? What purpose does that serve? Perhaps God loves eternal suffering for sinners. In that case God can do what he wants. But it’s up to you to believe in a God that creates eternal suffering for his creations

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For the sake of justice. The reward for sin is punishment. A person who has eternally chosen sin deserves an eternal punishment.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >For the sake of justice.
        non-answer. In this world, justice exists to promote good behavior, protect good people from dangerous people, and to correct bad behavior. An eternal hell makes no sense. Especially given that we are ignorant and created with sinful desires. Likewise, no one deserves eternal heaven. It’s not about God being merciful and just, it’s about being selectively loving and selectively hateful. An all-loving God would not allow eternal suffering. Surely love is a more necessary thing than justice? Why should God be just anyway? What does that even mean? It just means he does what he wants of course.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >In this world, justice
          In the next world, there is no hope of rehabilitation, and thus justice only serves to reward good and punish evil. God is Just because His nature is so.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            bullshit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All of your information about the next world comes from reflections of this world disguised as otherworldy, as in you don't actually have any information about anything not in this world. Your sense and definition of judgement is from this world, applies to this world, and has it's end in this world and this world alone.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Actually it comes from God

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >In the next world, there is no hope of rehabilitation
            Why not?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You cannot repent and be baptized after death

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why not?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just vaporize them into nothing?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turning into nothing is bliss
      They don't deserve any bliss

      Plus you can only escape the cycle by reaching enlightenment, not just death

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Punishment is a tool to prevent the evil from doing evil. A sociopath has no empathy and has no understanding of ethics. The only way to socialize them is with pain. They will behave if not for the sake of others then for their own.
    The idea of hell is just a sort catharsis.

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