There's no scientific research confirming your claim. Until it's proven in randomized double blind placebo control studies w must assume your statement is false.
> ice will melt
If this is England then only very slowly. People here are dying of heat stroke because it's been 25deg this week. I actually had someone cancel an appointment on Fri because "it's too hot".
>People here are dying of heat stroke because it's been 25deg this week.
I am 98% sure this is satire, but I won't be able to sleep this night if I don't get a confirmation.
Do Bongs really? Please, I need to know.
No, 25° can be bad enough if the sky is clear.
Air temperature may remain that low, but being exposed to constant, intense midday sunlight will become unpleasant very quickly and feel like it's 40° instead.
In fact sunlight overall is a huge factor, being mainly direct radiation at nearly 2000W per m2. What's the surface area of a human silhouette? You will be exposed to 100s of Watts in any case. While the air acts on you merely by convection. A wind would even be pleasant, and if the air is fairly dry the difference between a 30 and 40° air temperature, in the absence of sunlight, is pretty small, simply because heat transfer is not as effective as being irradiated by the fucking sun.
it is sadly true
most people can't handle temperature above 25' and they refuse to change clothes or drink water.
my colleague today was wearing our winter uniform "because it's basically winter" and only drank Poundland's knock off redbull, and bitching about the heat constantly.
our houses have next to no insulation so they're freezing in winter and boiling in summer. usually it's hotter indoors than outdoors in summer, and colder indoors than outdoors in winter.
modern houses aren't too bad, in fact it's just about the only thing deanoboxes have going for them.
people get crazy because they can't sleep properly. legit road fatalities and violent deaths double because we're all just sweating with fans blasting in our faces.
the moment you tell someone to get AC you're basically Hitler and Greta Thunburg will come down your chimney and kill you in your sleep for disrespecting the planet.
I have a cheap AC unit and the hose just goes out the window, but for some godforsaken reason the minimum temperature setting is 19'C.
if the air is dry the water will continue to contribute an exponentially decreasing temperature benefit proportionate to its temperature differential with the environment
The ice maker will have warmed the room more than it's ice will cool it, you absolute dolts. Leave the refrigerator door open all day, the room will get warmer.
>a few days a year
can someone explain why poors are always using this line?
is there some kind of holiday where temperatures don't count, or are they taking ski holidays during those days or what
>is there some kind of holiday where temperatures don't count
If you're not obese then the ambient temperature of a country is usually perfectly fine for 90% of the year.
oh ok
wait a second >for 90% of the year
can someone explain why poors are always using this line?
is there some kind of holiday where temperatures don't count, or are they taking ski holidays during those days or what
The benefits of AC are not felt for 90% of the year as the temperature is fine as is. The 10% days that remain are usually not a long enough or hot enough time to justify the expense of installing, running and maintaining an AC that you only use for three weeks during summer.
Just wear short pants and t-shirts during that time. And yes, many people are on summer holidays during the hottest time of the year. You know, the benefits of employers having to give 5 weeks of paid vacation time a year.
>three weeks meme
Is use mine from late-spring throughout the summer until mid-autumn.
When it gets colder I can supplement central heating. Coping poorfags will never understand and yes if you can't afford to spend 1300€+25-30€ monthly you're poor.
I don't get it either. my AC is the size of a kitchen bin. it lives in the cupboard most of the year, in this weather I chuck the hose out through the window and plug it in. when it gets cold again I take the filter out, let it air dry, and hoover it.
cost me £200 from Costco.
like you don't use a hoover every day, is that a waste of money as well? I don't get these mentally poor people man.
>3 days
You live in a rainy cloudy shit hole that sees real summer like once a year, us adults live in Satan's butthole and AC is a basic survival tool
We recently had a week with temps reaching 101°f, with 70-80% humidity.
The heat index (what it really felt like) was 118°F >I worked in a factory, with no A/C all week, and survived
So long as you aren't in the sun, all day, its not insanely bad. Lots of water, don't go in/our of cool a/c non stop, you will survive.
I also went swimming after work, with lots of beer involved
Kek. Have you ever been to Northern Europe? The summer average here in Denmark is around 20 C (68 F). How fat do you have to be to sweat when it's 20 C? Yes, some few days it can (will) get hot, but why the fuck would I want a big, ugly apparatus for those 5-7 days a year? A fan is just fine.
Literally hasn't been one day with 30 degrees in my part of the country this summer. The max was 28 degrees the other day.
>can someone explain why poors are always using this line?
because im poor and summer heat thats cancer and bothersome here is like 1% of the entire year, i spend my money within my budget are you retarded anon?
I live in WA. There is maybe two weeks where it gets above 90. Maybe two days a year where it's really hot. I've lived here since 2009, never had AC. Fans work just fine.
>is there some kind of holiday where temperatures don't count, or are they taking ski holidays during those days or what
its just poor homosexuals coping
I use a large Styrofoam cooler, desk fan, and "L" shaped pipe. Cut 2 holes in the lid. Stick fan in one hole of the lid facing down. The other hole for the pipe. Fill cooler with ice. Point "L" shaped pipe at your balls and have fun.
>Nothing wrong with swamp coolers >Why pay hundreds for an AC that you use maybe a few days a year?
Because I live in Arizona.
Also I just had to replace my HVAC systems and it cost $16500. My electric bill this month was $550.
Worth every penny.
>Also I just had to replace my HVAC systems and it cost $16500
Damn. Under 10k for a 5 ton unit just last year. I don’t doubt it though. It’s almost making those home warranty programs worth buying.
i live in phoenix and with AC off, i haven't breached 85 inside even after weeks of 110+. i just have good insulation and overhangs. small home, but my bill hasnt been greater than 100 in any single month.
High humidity and high heat, swamp coolers do nothing but add more moisture to the air, while moving around hot air.
They do work in some areas though, and they are fairly cheap too.
You don't need ice, the one I have has a large 5 gallon reservoir with a 3x3" filter, a pump pumps low amounts of water, trickles it over the length of the filter, the water runs down the filter, and a fan sucks air through the filter (cooling it and taking dirt, etc out)
It cost around $100 and it works well with no ice needed. >You can spend $200-600 and get a mini split installed (or do it yourself) with a heat pump
I have a 120v one that cost $50 with the rebates uncle Sam gives, spent $200 to have it installed. It cools down the master suite and adjoining bathroom closets.
>They do work in some areas though, and they are fairly cheap too.
They work a fuckin treat in Idaho. Use them at work where we got industrial ovens at 450F and big enough to fit a truck in. We use portable swamp coolers through summer and into fall.
i'm coming into this cold
but wouldn't it work better if you place the bowl of ice on the windowsill?
then it would be cooler air coming in for the fan
also there would be more space on the mat while practicing with nunchucks
Being so unfunny that people ignore your digits.i think you need to have a long hard think about the path you're going down. It's not too late to stop being retarded
>cooler air from outside
How is it cooler outside than inside in the middle of summer if you have an insulated home and you don’t like in the United Arab Emirates?
I have a brick house.
The sun warms the bricks all day long and the heat stays even if it cools down outside.
Nice to have in winter, but I'm living in hell right now.
I get that, here before say 2-3 pm, your house is going to be cooler indoors than the air outdoors. Unless it’s one of those fuckin weeks where it never drops below 30C for 3-4 days
Pretty bizarre to think of England being that hot overnight. We get it every summer and you just know to expect 30+ overnight temps and dead wind at least a couple of times over a three month period. You just try not to worry about it lol
my house is 100 years old and almost all of my walls are double thickness, the benefit is i basically have not used any heating in 8 months, the downsides is it traps heat when its hot and just hanging a picture requires breaking out the SDS Hammer drill.
Also good luck getting to electrical cables and water pipes lol.
Houses in the UK are built to retain heat, unlike houses in the first world. They don't design insulated buildings, just hot ones to save on winter fuel.
>Houses in the UK are built to retain heat, unlike houses in the first world. They don't design insulated buildings, just hot ones to save on winter fuel.
I'd love to see how you build a home to retain heat without using insulation.
yeah all my walls even internal walls are double skim as the inside walls are supporting a purlin in the loft which helps hold the roof up, all that mass helps keep outside noise down though i guess.
the lowest temp my house has been inside all week till today was 28.9c a couple of nights ago at about 3am, the humidity has been upwards of 80% and closer to 90% basically all week too and 90f outside at 2pm...Ive had three instances in the past 15 years of my house reaching 100f inside.
british houses are designed to trap heat like nobodies business, i could buy air con, but id use it a week a year.. so i just cope with fans for a week, like i had to this week, next week itll be like 60f outside so back to normal, my house takes about 2 days to lose the trapped heat tho. My temperature range for the year is basically anything from -10c in a cold winter to 40c dring a hot summer, so a potential spread of 50c over the year, which is frankly fucking insane.
this is why brits complain about the heat, because we all sleep in houses that are fucking 90f inside at night with no air con and 90% humidity when we get two weeks of sun, then we complain about 10c in winter because the energy bill costs $500 a month in winter.
is that like kansas and shit? -35c winters and +45c summers, yeah fuck that shit mate, brutal.. I tolerate -10c pretty well, but ive been in -18c and it gets rough if there is wind, i really fucking hate hot weather above 35c though once you start getting to body temp and any humidity its pretty unpleasant.
mate thats like australia in summer and siberia in winter what the fuck
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thats continental climate mate. Must be dry as hell. I guess Kazahstan and Eastern Mongolia should have fucked up climate too.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Kazakhstan is hell in the summer, I was there July/August and it was a burning hellscape. Beautiful country though. Wasn't too cold in March
3 weeks ago
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Holy hell. Why does anyone live there?
The only good news is whenever they bus or fly somalis here they refuse to stay and leave because of the winters
lmao
3 weeks ago
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I live in a temperate maritime climate where it rarely gets below freezing. I've been to Antarctica and above 5,000m in the Himalayas, and never experienced cold like a North American winter. I went to Calgary when it was - 33C and the cold was like a physical blow stepping outside. I just don't think Europe gets those sorts of conditions.
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>North Dakota = no blacks
I now understand, surely the land of the gods.
I hope you're bringing in the ice from outside the house. Otherwise, thermodynamics says the freezer inside generates more heat than it removes when freezing the ice.
Most British houses aren't made from OSB and paper, don't have a walk-in basement where you can house a small nuclear reactor, and don't have suspended floors, and wafer walls where you can fit ducting.
More to the point, Britons live in a temperate white man's climate where it rarely falls below freezing and rarely gets above comfy. If you live in an uncivilised Gulf Stream-free corner of the world designed for brown people or chugs, I can see how you would need this sort of shit taking up half your cardboard mansion in order to survive.
>don't have a walk-in basement where you can house a small nuclear reactor, and don't have suspended floors, and wafer walls where you can fit ducting
its almost as if brits stopped thinking about housing in the 1100's
all of those things are a plus, a house is to meant to facilitate the comfiest environment, regardless of outside circumstances
Imagine you're coming home after a long day of work. It's hot as fuck outside, you're sweating. You get home, you open your door, and you get a blast to the face of cool, nice smelling air to greet you when you get home.
Where I live electricity is cheap so my AC is less than like $100 USD per month in the middle of summer, and it keeps my house at 68 degrees inside while it's 104 out. So maybe an extra $600 per whole year when you count for the 10 months that don't get that hot.
I have mine set to 73 in Texas and it is a shitty unit too small for the house. I have the fan run constantly 24/7 on it to circulate the air and reduce wear on it due to not shutting on and off over and over. My bill was only $190 total. Meanwhile my girlfriend's mom who lives in Georgia had a $500 bill despite electricity barely being more expensive. There is clearly something very wrong with either the unit or something else in her house and I imagine there are tons of idiots like that who are losing all efficiency due to defects in the unit or house and cry that prices are too high.
AC is cheap as shit for me... summer months have comfy electric bills... 7500 sq ft or so... about ... $180/mo keeping the house at 72F, maybe up a notch or two if it gets really hot out. Winter is what sucks. Heat pump can't handle the bants, so to speak. Fortunately, I have gas and wood fireplaces and am surrounded by timber.
>Is it expensive to run and to maintain?
we had a lennox setup installed before everyone knew about the evap coil failures. repair + refrigerant was like $800 in like 2018, parts were covered by lennox but that isn't shit when it's their fault in the end.
otherwise it's just tuneup/check up and air filters. if you ever buy an older house do yourself a favor and get the ducts cleaned and upgrade to better filters, I always use MERV 13 rated filters because allergies suck.
Unfortunately AC units and parts have skyrocketed in costs in the few years. If you can't work on your AC yourself expect to get taken for a ride by the HVAC guys. Some will try to convince you your entire system is fucked and you need to drop $10000 on a new one when the problem is extremely basic.
I grew up in a home without AC.
When I was in my 20s I added a swamp cooler.
That was way better.
A few years later I changed that over to AC
That was even better.
The advantage of the swamp cooler is that you can turn it off when you leave the house and when you come back you can run it on and sit in a blast of cool air. That’s pretty sweet. The disadvantage is that it doesn’t work well when outside humidity is really high.
>The disadvantage is that it doesn’t work well when outside humidity is really high.
yeah i dont think its been lower than about 70% here where i am all week, im not sure what the exact temps were but it was probably 30c yesterday at the highest, i didnt check my exact local temps, im just fucking glad its mild compared to last year, 40c fucking sucks with the humidity i get.
>The disadvantage is that it doesn’t work well when outside humidity is really high.
Kek I put a dehumidifier in front of the swamp cooler intake out of curiosity, and the relative humidity would stay within the effective range of the cooler. It's not as powerful as A/C ofc but it does something.
I couldn't even imagine coming to home to no AC when it's 30C outside with 90% humidity. Electricity is dirt cheap here in the summer so it costs me about $25 month running it the entire day and most of the night.
Our prices are insane! I pay more in service fees than actual usage.
I have 2 prices for electicity. > 0.40 cents per kWh (day) > 0.36 cents per kWh (night + weekend)
The kWh price is build up of 3 parts > I pay 0.33 cents for the actual electricity (day) > I pay 0.04 cents towards taxes (day) > I pay 0.03 cents towards energy storage (day)
> I pay 0.29 cents for the actual electricity (night + weekend)) > I pay 0.04 cents towards taxes (night + weekend)) > I pay 0.03 cents towards energy storage (night + weekend))
Ontop of that I pay 6,99 a month for "delivery costs" used to maintain the network. Weird thing is only 1 company owns the entire network of the country.
Ontop of that I pay 21% VAT over my total costs added together.
Here in Germany, during a hot summer, an AC would be useful for maybe 2 months per year.
But during those 2 months, you really need it.
I don't have AC and I suffer every summer. It is often 30+ Celsius inside the house. (86F). At some points it is even up to 35C (95F) inside the house.
As you can imagine, this also takes its toll on electronics and computers.
I want to buy an AC next year.
With the advances in solar energy, maybe there is a way to combine them. The summer heat powers the AC which cools me down.
It's already too late to buy AC for this year.
>I don't have AC and I suffer every summer. It is often 30+ Celsius inside the house. (86F). At some points it is even up to 35C (95F) inside the house.
I can relate bro, ive slept in 100f inside before lmao, its only possible if you at least have a fan on you blowing you all night.
That 104f we got last year with high humidity was fucking rough mate, even the poo in loos were moaning, >oh god blimey this is like mumbai in monsoon season.
Two words >Mini split
They have heat pumps as well
You can get ones here for around $500 that would cool a 600sq ft room, heat it as well in winter. A few hundred more for installation (but you could install yourself, goolge has many videos)
>Do Brits really?
My grandparents said that in the old days you'd go to the movie theater for "Cooled Air". They would blow a fan over huge blocks of ice above the balcony. Sometimes you get hit with a spritz of cold water. This was in New Orleans.
The ice doesn't actually do anything, a bowl of ice will not move the needle especially with open windows. If you want an improvised cold air blaster make an improvised swamp cooler like the other Anon is talking about. The Shop Vac full of ice is a great idea but it'd be pretty loud, a regular cooler full of ice with airflow running through it is how most people do it, but you can also just get window unit ACs.
Y'all know about window units right? Cheap as fuck at Wally World, 30 minute install, and you can have like 40 Degree air blasting you directly in the face all day.
Not in all states. Some states don't even have sales tax. But for the most part yes, prices don't include sales tax. There are also special teaxes on certain items like cigarettes that may not be applied to the advertised price.
>prices aren't even as they present
America is such a scam, kek. The only time the price isn't the same as presented, is when you buy wholesale as a registered business owner, but they go to special stores of course. But all normal stores/shops/whatever, will charge you the price they put on the item.
It's the same in Goymoney. You need a special card to shop @ a wholesale with a reduced tax rate.
It's one of the reason why every shitskins family owns at least one convenience shop.
Is it against code to just cut a hole in the wall for one? That's what my girlfriend's dad did for the tiny as house he had built before she was born. He still uses the building as a place to store his musical equipment and to jam. No idea why he didn't add a window for it in the first place. Actually maybe he did and just took the window out and cut it larger.
You could do that if you own the property.
But it's easier to just install a mini split.
The fees for the montage are saner here.
I paid approx 350€ for the whole installation.
I own a 2 room condo. Had to install the exterior unit near the window facing the backyard 'cause the facade on the street side is land marked.
It's also forbidden to install a minisplit system as a tenant but many just ignore it.
anon youre in germany, inland europe and way south, the temperature between us is completely different in the summer heat.
it was shitty here for less than a week while rest of europe was on fire for months.
most of england as op posted isnt bad either being surrounded by ocean and known for rainy weathers.
consoom with though if its a issue there the go ahead and buy it but the fan + ice is a good investment for me and many others in the north
>oceans
Then you get way too high humidity.
I came across aircon in Malaysia and the US.
I never want to live w/o one for the rest of my life.
Same goes for guns.
They're devious in the way the pinch everyone for every single cent they can shake out of you. >sales tax >state tax >federal tax
What you're spending, how you're spending it, how Much you're spending and Where you're spending it.
You forgot... >income tax (depends on state) >property tax >inheritance tax >death tax >withholdings for keeping boomers and naggers alive
By the time we get around to it, you realize that you're being taxed around 55%.
They're devious in the way the pinch everyone for every single cent they can shake out of you. >sales tax >state tax >federal tax
What you're spending, how you're spending it, how Much you're spending and Where you're spending it.
This confused me of when I was a kid and I travelled to the USA with my family. I remember going to a shop to buy sweets and carefully adding up the prices listed and counting our the right amount of dollars and cents. Then when the woman at the counter told me a different price I said she was wrong and she had to explain they add at the counter. She probably thought I was the most irritating little british cunt and wanted to shoot me with a gun
Windows Units won't fly here b7c of our retarded windows.
>can someone explain why poors are always using this line?
because im poor and summer heat thats cancer and bothersome here is like 1% of the entire year, i spend my money within my budget are you retarded anon?
Kek. Keep telling that to yourself while I have cool 21 degrees throughout the whole summer. Only costs me 25-30€ in electricity.
Is it against code to just cut a hole in the wall for one? That's what my girlfriend's dad did for the tiny as house he had built before she was born. He still uses the building as a place to store his musical equipment and to jam. No idea why he didn't add a window for it in the first place. Actually maybe he did and just took the window out and cut it larger.
anon youre in germany, inland europe and way south, the temperature between us is completely different in the summer heat.
it was shitty here for less than a week while rest of europe was on fire for months.
most of england as op posted isnt bad either being surrounded by ocean and known for rainy weathers.
consoom with though if its a issue there the go ahead and buy it but the fan + ice is a good investment for me and many others in the north
I've only been to Yankland once, to Florida, in the summer. Stepping off the plane was like nothing I had ever experienced before. I was drowning in sweat before I even reached the tarmac, and I'm a skinny skele.
Just finished my workout about 10 mins ago, in what is one of the hottest days of the year, and all I needed to do to cool off was wade through my dogs' knee deep pool. Not even sweating half as much as just climbing them stairs off that plane.
We don't need A/C ever, even on these hot days, not only is it not that hot but it's nowhere near as humid
I have no concern for what Americans think of MY language.
If I want to dip my pinkie winkies in my splishy-splash while sipsipping on a bubblybooze then I bloody well will, God save the King
I convinced some Americans that sightseeing in rural England (I live near where bits of Harry Potter was filmed) is called cottaging. And that sightseeing was called spying, and that spying is called espionage.
hopefully that caused a bit of bants down the road.
they also asked where High Why Comm Be is lol lmao our most extravagant tomfoolery is not pronouncing things as they are spelled.
(High Wycombe is pronounced High Whickham).
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Anonymous
>I convinced some Americans that sightseeing in rural England (I live near where bits of Harry Potter was filmed) is called cottaging
The Gulf Coast is just especially humid. All the way from far East Texas to the East Coast of Florida has a ton of swampland. There is a reason invasive species like tropical birds and iguanas thrive in Florida.
You can buy these things for 300€ @ every electronic department store but their performance is subpar, you can't use it as a supplement for heating during wintertime and the electricity costs will kill you.
Just invest more and go for a mini split. One way mini split is 1000-1300€ euros here. Installation fees included.
If you wanna or renovate a house opt for a duct system. Ideal would be a water-to-water heat pump.
I've got a total of 11 ceiling fans in a one story house, in conjunction with 2 window units it keeps the house very cool. I've got two woodstoves for heating during the winter. The ceiling fans set on low circulate the heat very well. I'll look into the mini split though
They make window units with heaters built in >We call them Ptac units
Your average hotel has one in each room.
They cost a little more than your average one, but less than a mini split.
Also, naggers will rip them right out of your window if you live in some hell.hole.
Its common to see cages around a/c units, or airline cable attached
Americans have nearly the highest amount of disposable income in the world despite most living "paycheck to paycheck" in urban areas, as in most people in general. We have it pretty good currently but obviously it is getting worse.
Americans have two times more money, with less taxes and lower prices. Europe is poor, common european live like part-time from mcdonalds. Other countries are basically bums on dumps - bare survival.
The thing is, the middle class is being extinguished throughout the western world, and Americans will soon not be able to afford to power their HVAC systems, assuming they still get power 24/7 as their grids fail like South Africa. This is the point at which they will discover the consequences of living in a continent with extreme weather with houses that were not designed to deal passively with these extremes. Apart from smug coastal Californians and a few dozen Hippies living in adobe homes in New Mexico, they are going to live out their lives in the misery of a 3,000sqft McMansion which affords no relief from extreme heat or extreme cold. Once again, Europoors in their comfy trad houses win in the long-term.
Well, maybe.
But when they get to this point we will be absolutely fucked, with cost of power skyrocketing, millions of naggers on gibs, major cities basically abandoned dumpsters.
Lulwut? The avg. salary here is around 3.5k dollars. I make a little less, around 3k. After taxes. That's literally over 6x one AC unit. And I'm a fucking lazy painter. How poor are you bongs?
It won't cool the room, especially if the ice was made in the kitchen freezer. But it absolutely works if the flow is directed at you. Even a mini fan over ice will cool you down a lot, if it's in front of you.
>Do Brits really?
i feel bad for brits. In my basement is a device the size of 2 full size refrigerators with an intricate network of pipes and ductwork running throughout the house, all just to keep my 3000 sq ft house cool when i spend 95% of the time in my bedroom
At least learn something from Floridaman and get a foam cooler fill it with ice and cut two holes on each end and put a fan on one end to blow towards you. Boom mobile air conditioner. Bonus points if you have a drain plug for the excess water at the bottom as you add more ice.
You would only need air con for half a month in the uk in a home so I open a window and just hope there is some sort of breeze no need for a thread now is there.
When is it warm enough to even warrant a fan?
Do you live in some 3rd world shithole that is unfit for humans but you're too poor to move away from it? Why don't you migrate to the canooks. They can afford to live in a colder climate so they don't need to be poor and buy things to keep them cold, they fight with cold instead and that's far easier anyway. But I know you gotta afford to move there and all
Bees don't come inside generally, if they do you shoo them out.
Flies are a minor problem if you keep you food & waste in a container with a lid, and keep your house clean. We have noticeably less flies than you even in the city though, and barely any biters (Scotland has midges but they hang around water so you don't get them inside so much).
I have 2 fly catchers in my house and they do the trick. And I live in the countryside
>We have noticeably less flies than you even in the city though, and barely any biter
This demoralized me a lot. I hate fucking flies. I have to close my door fast so they don’t get in. And you just open your windows and let the wind blow through your home without worrying. I’m jealous. It’s not fair.
>have to close my door fast so they don’t get in
You must be kidding. Just how many flies are we talking about? Was your house built on old indian latrine or something?
Yep, most people here don't even know how lucky we have it because we're used to it: >Few stinging insects >No biting insects >No venomous snakes (except an Adder but they're rare as fuck and the bites only hurt a little) >No venomous bugs >No venomous fish >No carnivores larger than a terrier (biggest we get is a Badger, which you almost never see anyway) >No tropical storms >No tornados >No earthquakes
We're just mild all over, in every respect
Not for several hundred years, no.
There are campains to try and bring them back but they're heavily opposed by farmers.
Deer populations are limited usually by space, because as
tbh i think we killed everything dangerous here a thousand years ago and chopped down 90% of the forrests too.
pointed out, we have no large forests left really. The deer are culled if they get to be a problem beyond that
I stand corrected, I hadn't heard of these before, looks like they're mostly further up north on the Scottish/Welsh coastline than down in England. Seem like right little cunts though
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, nasty but could be worse. The Australian equivalent, Stonefish, is fatal. Of course.
I haven't seen a non-white person in weeks. The most 'foreign' person in my village comes from Liverpool
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Is it even legal in britain for some community to be without resident nagger? I wonder if they introduce “netional tolerance day” when nazis like you have to go to human zoo and take a look at nagger.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not even kidding when I moved here from the town I lived in before I was accused by not just one of my former 'friends' of being racist; of only wanting to live in a nice area in the countryside because there was no black people. The villages still have the heart of England, but they all still watch the same TV so the mind virus is creeping in. I reckon this is the last generation we'll have of this, even the boomers here are turning
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Anonymous
Same here anon but I live I the middle of nowhere. They tend to flock to the cities because they came here for the consumerism anyway.
What the fuck do bees need in your house? Do you have a garden there? She will just check there are no flowers and fuck off. >flies
They are somewhere else, at the dumpster.
And I have metal blinds and curtains, you can move them aside.
I'll never understand the temperature fragility of americans. You waste so much money (that you dont have) for some machine to keep the temperature perfectly stable and cry like it's the end of the world when it breaks. To make it worse your houses are far worse insulated so it's much easier to cope with heat. I know it's a meme but it's gotta be down to obesity levels there, yanks literally cannot survive without AC.
its probably a regional thing, i bet alaskans and shit are tough as fuck, same as people from texas and florida who work outside, californians who work in an office though are probably homosexuals who would cry left alone in parts of liverpool
It would be like comparing a liberal from brighton with a chav from a glasgow estate
He was from Ural, so should be tough as nail. He suggested that it is influenced of central heating that is so hot if unregulated that they open windows at winter to cool off.
The ice thing is fucking stupid though. There is way too much thermal mass in the massive volume of air being moved for it to have any significant effect.
i was messing with blowing hot air out of my house a few days ago and it seemed to help, maximizing flow to cool it down once the temp change is more conducive outside will help next week, think i still have a couple more days of 27/28c ish, then its going to drop to about 12c so i can blast all the hot air out
imagine living in a burning hell hole where you need to care about cooling, here its a good temp in my cellar all year around, and we have refugees who deliver me food cheeply
You have insulted our people. I hereby challenge you to a gun duel at Heathrow Airport tomorrow at High Noon.
Bring only a .45 cal handgun of your choice.
>forcing the fridge to work continuously making ice cubes >opening the fridge door many times
This consumes more electricity than a normal AC unit. >not closing the damn window
This is bong tier retardation
right now it's 36 degrees in Wakanda (formerly known as Paris).
It's super hot, and my car blew the AC compressor yesterday too.
Shit sucks, but we know damn well it's gonna be raining soon. This ain't Tahiti homosexuals
These thhreads always have the same fucking cope from bongs and euros >hurrr we don't need it, its only hot like 1% of the year
meanwhile summer starts and they bitch nonstop for a few months about how hot it is until summer is over, EVERY YEAR
americans can have the 2nd amendment specifically because they will never use their guns.
give any euro country 2nd amendment and it turns into the 4th reich overnight, and all politicians and israelites get lynched live on TV after a few days
we're not made the same. they've been domesticated humans for way too long
It's not deflection, we've already addressed the point in that post several times over in the thread. It's a shitpost as a response to a shitpost. Not a bad shitpost apparently considering the 3 bites already
Don't they understand that warm objects (such as water in your freezer) causes the freezer to run harder in order to stabilize the ambient temperature in the freezer?
There is no such thing as free energy. This is a very inefficient way to cool a room. Especially with a fucking window open. They're all for saving energy, then you see something this retarded? Get a window a/c.
AC is absolute dogshit. No-one ever cleans them properly so they're infested with all sorts of disgusting things, they stink regardless of cleanliness, and cost ridiculous amounts of money to run.
Fan chads stay winning. There is nothing better than sitting in front of a fan on a hot summer day.
The fan would never 'pull' air in through the window as in the illustration. A fan takes air to be propelled forward from the entire back and sides.
The fan has to be pointed out the window. The air blown out the front of the fan is more directional and can be directed out the window, another open window to let the air in can create a good airflow.
Normies are complete clueless about thermodynamics. I once tried to help my buddy figure out what the problem with his A/C was in his apartment and he had an outdoor A/C unit with the exhaust pipe running from the unit to a window or something, so the exhaust pipe just radiated so much heat when the thing was running and the power of running the thing inside his room was obviously contributing too. The dude didn't even listen to me, either. It blew cold air when he started it up, so it was all good.
You can't suck air into a room like that. You can however blow air out of a room. It's more effective to just blow yourself with the fan though unless it's night time and you want to exchange the air from inside with outside more quickly.
Also, my HR manager has an actual evaporative cooler in her office, however there is no ventilation at all. None of the windows open on that floor. She just runs the humidity up to 100% and hasn't realised after a week that she's making the heat much worse by doing this.
no
they can't afford ice machines
It's less efficient to do this than to use an air conditioner ... this is not good for the environment homosexual
But the ice will melt in a few minutes if it's hot
Wow what a dumbass response. It's ice fucktard
a fucking leaf
yeah, you can run them without ice too. they are called swamp coolers
A swamp cooler is a radiator with a fan and water flowing through it
You are talking about some kind of darkie shit
even if its not hot, blowing air will make it melt faster. but ngl this a massive cope over no ayy see
source?
There's no scientific research confirming your claim. Until it's proven in randomized double blind placebo control studies w must assume your statement is false.
> ice will melt
If this is England then only very slowly. People here are dying of heat stroke because it's been 25deg this week. I actually had someone cancel an appointment on Fri because "it's too hot".
it's not "25" it's currently 32 but ok
>People here are dying of heat stroke because it's been 25deg this week.
I am 98% sure this is satire, but I won't be able to sleep this night if I don't get a confirmation.
Do Bongs really? Please, I need to know.
No, 25° can be bad enough if the sky is clear.
Air temperature may remain that low, but being exposed to constant, intense midday sunlight will become unpleasant very quickly and feel like it's 40° instead.
In fact sunlight overall is a huge factor, being mainly direct radiation at nearly 2000W per m2. What's the surface area of a human silhouette? You will be exposed to 100s of Watts in any case. While the air acts on you merely by convection. A wind would even be pleasant, and if the air is fairly dry the difference between a 30 and 40° air temperature, in the absence of sunlight, is pretty small, simply because heat transfer is not as effective as being irradiated by the fucking sun.
True for me tbh. I can't sleep properly if it's above 20 in my room and if it's 25 outside I need to be still to not sweat my ass off.
it is sadly true
most people can't handle temperature above 25' and they refuse to change clothes or drink water.
my colleague today was wearing our winter uniform "because it's basically winter" and only drank Poundland's knock off redbull, and bitching about the heat constantly.
our houses have next to no insulation so they're freezing in winter and boiling in summer. usually it's hotter indoors than outdoors in summer, and colder indoors than outdoors in winter.
modern houses aren't too bad, in fact it's just about the only thing deanoboxes have going for them.
people get crazy because they can't sleep properly. legit road fatalities and violent deaths double because we're all just sweating with fans blasting in our faces.
the moment you tell someone to get AC you're basically Hitler and Greta Thunburg will come down your chimney and kill you in your sleep for disrespecting the planet.
I have a cheap AC unit and the hose just goes out the window, but for some godforsaken reason the minimum temperature setting is 19'C.
Yall would die in Texas. It's been 40C here for months. 25C is like November temps here when we can finally go outside and do normal stuff.
if the air is dry the water will continue to contribute an exponentially decreasing temperature benefit proportionate to its temperature differential with the environment
Is there any expert you can cite to back your claim?
that’s the point, the heat is being absorbed the by ice u retard
The ice maker will have warmed the room more than it's ice will cool it, you absolute dolts. Leave the refrigerator door open all day, the room will get warmer.
Source????
fakenews
naggers
That's why you put the bowl of ice in another bowl of ice.
Nothing wrong with swamp coolers
Why pay hundreds for an AC that you use maybe a few days a year?
>a few days a year
can someone explain why poors are always using this line?
is there some kind of holiday where temperatures don't count, or are they taking ski holidays during those days or what
>is there some kind of holiday where temperatures don't count
If you're not obese then the ambient temperature of a country is usually perfectly fine for 90% of the year.
oh ok
wait a second
>for 90% of the year
can someone explain why poors are always using this line?
is there some kind of holiday where temperatures don't count, or are they taking ski holidays during those days or what
The benefits of AC are not felt for 90% of the year as the temperature is fine as is. The 10% days that remain are usually not a long enough or hot enough time to justify the expense of installing, running and maintaining an AC that you only use for three weeks during summer.
Just wear short pants and t-shirts during that time. And yes, many people are on summer holidays during the hottest time of the year. You know, the benefits of employers having to give 5 weeks of paid vacation time a year.
>three weeks meme
Is use mine from late-spring throughout the summer until mid-autumn.
When it gets colder I can supplement central heating. Coping poorfags will never understand and yes if you can't afford to spend 1300€+25-30€ monthly you're poor.
I don't get it either. my AC is the size of a kitchen bin. it lives in the cupboard most of the year, in this weather I chuck the hose out through the window and plug it in. when it gets cold again I take the filter out, let it air dry, and hoover it.
cost me £200 from Costco.
like you don't use a hoover every day, is that a waste of money as well? I don't get these mentally poor people man.
Rofl this britnagger cope
I'm not morbidly obese. A bit of warm weather for 3 days isn't going to kill me.
>for 3 days
same question applies
if you won't answer the qustion fuck off
but how would you feel if it /was/ only hot for three days a year?
you are poor
>3 days
You live in a rainy cloudy shit hole that sees real summer like once a year, us adults live in Satan's butthole and AC is a basic survival tool
We recently had a week with temps reaching 101°f, with 70-80% humidity.
The heat index (what it really felt like) was 118°F
>I worked in a factory, with no A/C all week, and survived
So long as you aren't in the sun, all day, its not insanely bad. Lots of water, don't go in/our of cool a/c non stop, you will survive.
I also went swimming after work, with lots of beer involved
We only get a week or two of proper heat every year, an AC that is unused for the other 50 weeks would be a waste of money, not an investment
Kek. Have you ever been to Northern Europe? The summer average here in Denmark is around 20 C (68 F). How fat do you have to be to sweat when it's 20 C? Yes, some few days it can (will) get hot, but why the fuck would I want a big, ugly apparatus for those 5-7 days a year? A fan is just fine.
Literally hasn't been one day with 30 degrees in my part of the country this summer. The max was 28 degrees the other day.
>can someone explain why poors are always using this line?
because im poor and summer heat thats cancer and bothersome here is like 1% of the entire year, i spend my money within my budget are you retarded anon?
You know that different continents have different climates, right ?
How the fuck do you get more sun than in Costa Del Sol?
I live in WA. There is maybe two weeks where it gets above 90. Maybe two days a year where it's really hot. I've lived here since 2009, never had AC. Fans work just fine.
Because they’re poor.
>Look outside my window
>trees
Cool weather
>look outside on an opposite window
>concrete parking lot
Insane temperatures
Just plant a tree my friend and move away from concrete
you fucking muttoid, air conditioning is a modern invention, how come people were able to survive before it?
if they were then maybe you are too
Not everyone lives in nagger hot Virginia retard
>is there some kind of holiday where temperatures don't count, or are they taking ski holidays during those days or what
its just poor homosexuals coping
I can't tell it this is a high-level troll or just someone being really American.
Thank you Ameranon, do you have any other suggestions for improvised 'swamp coolers'?
Just skip the fan and shove the ice cubes directly into your arsehole.
Instructions unclear, currently 33,429th in the queue for A&E
this what you do
get a shop vac that has the option to blow air aswell as suck (hehe)
after you got that sorted, fill the shop vac with ice and latch on the lid and turn it on
we use these in a workshop for portable and real decent cooling
That's a fucking great idea, cheers lad
I use a large Styrofoam cooler, desk fan, and "L" shaped pipe. Cut 2 holes in the lid. Stick fan in one hole of the lid facing down. The other hole for the pipe. Fill cooler with ice. Point "L" shaped pipe at your balls and have fun.
they don't work when humidity is high, which is usually in the British summer.
>Nothing wrong with swamp coolers
>Why pay hundreds for an AC that you use maybe a few days a year?
Because I live in Arizona.
Also I just had to replace my HVAC systems and it cost $16500. My electric bill this month was $550.
Worth every penny.
>Also I just had to replace my HVAC systems and it cost $16500
Damn. Under 10k for a 5 ton unit just last year. I don’t doubt it though. It’s almost making those home warranty programs worth buying.
Must be nice to own a real house where you can install shit. Living in city is nightmare.
i live in phoenix and with AC off, i haven't breached 85 inside even after weeks of 110+. i just have good insulation and overhangs. small home, but my bill hasnt been greater than 100 in any single month.
High humidity and high heat, swamp coolers do nothing but add more moisture to the air, while moving around hot air.
They do work in some areas though, and they are fairly cheap too.
You don't need ice, the one I have has a large 5 gallon reservoir with a 3x3" filter, a pump pumps low amounts of water, trickles it over the length of the filter, the water runs down the filter, and a fan sucks air through the filter (cooling it and taking dirt, etc out)
It cost around $100 and it works well with no ice needed.
>You can spend $200-600 and get a mini split installed (or do it yourself) with a heat pump
I have a 120v one that cost $50 with the rebates uncle Sam gives, spent $200 to have it installed. It cools down the master suite and adjoining bathroom closets.
>They do work in some areas though, and they are fairly cheap too.
They work a fuckin treat in Idaho. Use them at work where we got industrial ovens at 450F and big enough to fit a truck in. We use portable swamp coolers through summer and into fall.
>swamp coolers
>bongland
i'm coming into this cold
but wouldn't it work better if you place the bowl of ice on the windowsill?
then it would be cooler air coming in for the fan
also there would be more space on the mat while practicing with nunchucks
Being so unfunny that people ignore your digits.i think you need to have a long hard think about the path you're going down. It's not too late to stop being retarded
>cooler air from outside
How is it cooler outside than inside in the middle of summer if you have an insulated home and you don’t like in the United Arab Emirates?
> UK
> If you have an insulated home
There's your answer.
I have a brick house.
The sun warms the bricks all day long and the heat stays even if it cools down outside.
Nice to have in winter, but I'm living in hell right now.
I get that, here before say 2-3 pm, your house is going to be cooler indoors than the air outdoors. Unless it’s one of those fuckin weeks where it never drops below 30C for 3-4 days
It's been 28-30 at night here this week
Pretty bizarre to think of England being that hot overnight. We get it every summer and you just know to expect 30+ overnight temps and dead wind at least a couple of times over a three month period. You just try not to worry about it lol
We've had non-stop 25+ all summer, except when it was raining.
my house is 100 years old and almost all of my walls are double thickness, the benefit is i basically have not used any heating in 8 months, the downsides is it traps heat when its hot and just hanging a picture requires breaking out the SDS Hammer drill.
Also good luck getting to electrical cables and water pipes lol.
Houses in the UK are built to retain heat, unlike houses in the first world. They don't design insulated buildings, just hot ones to save on winter fuel.
>Houses in the UK are built to retain heat, unlike houses in the first world. They don't design insulated buildings, just hot ones to save on winter fuel.
I'd love to see how you build a home to retain heat without using insulation.
the walls in my house are wider than my forearm is long, solid stone
yeah all my walls even internal walls are double skim as the inside walls are supporting a purlin in the loft which helps hold the roof up, all that mass helps keep outside noise down though i guess.
Aussies still do this, I heard.
a colleague of mine is dating an aussie chick
>UK houses retain heat
>unlike the first world
>They don't insulate
>they just insulate
Hmm...
the lowest temp my house has been inside all week till today was 28.9c a couple of nights ago at about 3am, the humidity has been upwards of 80% and closer to 90% basically all week too and 90f outside at 2pm...Ive had three instances in the past 15 years of my house reaching 100f inside.
british houses are designed to trap heat like nobodies business, i could buy air con, but id use it a week a year.. so i just cope with fans for a week, like i had to this week, next week itll be like 60f outside so back to normal, my house takes about 2 days to lose the trapped heat tho. My temperature range for the year is basically anything from -10c in a cold winter to 40c dring a hot summer, so a potential spread of 50c over the year, which is frankly fucking insane.
this is why brits complain about the heat, because we all sleep in houses that are fucking 90f inside at night with no air con and 90% humidity when we get two weeks of sun, then we complain about 10c in winter because the energy bill costs $500 a month in winter.
> so a potential spread of 50c over the year, which is frankly fucking insane.
Quick, no one tell him about the midwest.
is that like kansas and shit? -35c winters and +45c summers, yeah fuck that shit mate, brutal.. I tolerate -10c pretty well, but ive been in -18c and it gets rough if there is wind, i really fucking hate hot weather above 35c though once you start getting to body temp and any humidity its pretty unpleasant.
It gets worse lmao, North Dakota in a single year had lows of -51.1 C and highs of 49.4 C
I don’t know why my ancestors bothered to travel and live in this cursed land.
mate thats like australia in summer and siberia in winter what the fuck
Thats continental climate mate. Must be dry as hell. I guess Kazahstan and Eastern Mongolia should have fucked up climate too.
Kazakhstan is hell in the summer, I was there July/August and it was a burning hellscape. Beautiful country though. Wasn't too cold in March
The only good news is whenever they bus or fly somalis here they refuse to stay and leave because of the winters
lmao
I live in a temperate maritime climate where it rarely gets below freezing. I've been to Antarctica and above 5,000m in the Himalayas, and never experienced cold like a North American winter. I went to Calgary when it was - 33C and the cold was like a physical blow stepping outside. I just don't think Europe gets those sorts of conditions.
>North Dakota = no blacks
I now understand, surely the land of the gods.
Holy hell. Why does anyone live there?
Ever heard of not 2:00PM?
The tweet was Brits would do anything to avoid investing in air conditioning right
I hope you're bringing in the ice from outside the house. Otherwise, thermodynamics says the freezer inside generates more heat than it removes when freezing the ice.
Just buy an aircon.
It's only 1000-1300€ here incl montage.
>montage
montage -> mountage -> installation
Wrong, Brits with a few brain cells point fan at open window pushing in air.
See why firefighters put water through a window for further details.
Read more than you write moron.
Wasted digits and plebbitspacing
Not good mr turbohomosexual
Meanwhile, in the 21st century
imagine being euro
Why does the percentage increase? are people just pussies who cant handle heat like they use to?
Yes…it’s really the heat plus humidity though
Not everyone can survive multiple ovens like you, schlomo.
just leave the fridge open duh
>global warming isnt re-ACK
Meanwhile in the 21st century all you need is an inverter.
Most British houses aren't made from OSB and paper, don't have a walk-in basement where you can house a small nuclear reactor, and don't have suspended floors, and wafer walls where you can fit ducting.
More to the point, Britons live in a temperate white man's climate where it rarely falls below freezing and rarely gets above comfy. If you live in an uncivilised Gulf Stream-free corner of the world designed for brown people or chugs, I can see how you would need this sort of shit taking up half your cardboard mansion in order to survive.
whatever, Connecticut, or wherever your flag is from.
>whatever, Connecticut, or wherever your flag is from
Catatonia, akshually
>Cope, seethe, dilate
Basements would be really useful 2bh, just not cost effective for developers
>don't have a walk-in basement where you can house a small nuclear reactor, and don't have suspended floors, and wafer walls where you can fit ducting
its almost as if brits stopped thinking about housing in the 1100's
all of those things are a plus, a house is to meant to facilitate the comfiest environment, regardless of outside circumstances
wait thats not an urinate station
>just live in a shed bro
no
Because of Greta Thunberg our country has banned ACs
What does AC feel like in a house?
It must feel pretty awesome.
Is it expensive to run and to maintain?
There are very few things in life that are awesome no matter what the americans claim.
having magical cold blow out of the ceiling on a 90 degree day is up there and you know it
Not when the cold air is recycled american farts.
$100 a month in summer in most places
maybe $500-800 in a mansion in CA
less than you lot pay for gas in winter, or so I've heard
A month lol. We're lucky if we get a fortnight of warm weather.
A fucking month, Jesus fuck Christ.
They are heavenly
Off to spoons with you dimwit
Imagine you're coming home after a long day of work. It's hot as fuck outside, you're sweating. You get home, you open your door, and you get a blast to the face of cool, nice smelling air to greet you when you get home.
Where I live electricity is cheap so my AC is less than like $100 USD per month in the middle of summer, and it keeps my house at 68 degrees inside while it's 104 out. So maybe an extra $600 per whole year when you count for the 10 months that don't get that hot.
I have mine set to 73 in Texas and it is a shitty unit too small for the house. I have the fan run constantly 24/7 on it to circulate the air and reduce wear on it due to not shutting on and off over and over. My bill was only $190 total. Meanwhile my girlfriend's mom who lives in Georgia had a $500 bill despite electricity barely being more expensive. There is clearly something very wrong with either the unit or something else in her house and I imagine there are tons of idiots like that who are losing all efficiency due to defects in the unit or house and cry that prices are too high.
I lived in Georgia for 4 years and my electricity was under 200 every month there's something fucked with their house.
If you're running fan 24/7 and even if not, use a super cheap fiberglass filter.
For me, nothing beats the smell of the air cooled bybthe window unit I had growing up before we had central air installed.
AC is cheap as shit for me... summer months have comfy electric bills... 7500 sq ft or so... about ... $180/mo keeping the house at 72F, maybe up a notch or two if it gets really hot out. Winter is what sucks. Heat pump can't handle the bants, so to speak. Fortunately, I have gas and wood fireplaces and am surrounded by timber.
>Is it expensive to run and to maintain?
we had a lennox setup installed before everyone knew about the evap coil failures. repair + refrigerant was like $800 in like 2018, parts were covered by lennox but that isn't shit when it's their fault in the end.
otherwise it's just tuneup/check up and air filters. if you ever buy an older house do yourself a favor and get the ducts cleaned and upgrade to better filters, I always use MERV 13 rated filters because allergies suck.
It's very nice. It might be 90F (32C) outside, but you come in your home and it's a nice 70F (21C). Nice, calm, and cool.
Unfortunately AC units and parts have skyrocketed in costs in the few years. If you can't work on your AC yourself expect to get taken for a ride by the HVAC guys. Some will try to convince you your entire system is fucked and you need to drop $10000 on a new one when the problem is extremely basic.
I will not live in a house without central heat and air. The horror.
I grew up in a home without AC.
When I was in my 20s I added a swamp cooler.
That was way better.
A few years later I changed that over to AC
That was even better.
The advantage of the swamp cooler is that you can turn it off when you leave the house and when you come back you can run it on and sit in a blast of cool air. That’s pretty sweet. The disadvantage is that it doesn’t work well when outside humidity is really high.
>The disadvantage is that it doesn’t work well when outside humidity is really high.
yeah i dont think its been lower than about 70% here where i am all week, im not sure what the exact temps were but it was probably 30c yesterday at the highest, i didnt check my exact local temps, im just fucking glad its mild compared to last year, 40c fucking sucks with the humidity i get.
>The disadvantage is that it doesn’t work well when outside humidity is really high.
Kek I put a dehumidifier in front of the swamp cooler intake out of curiosity, and the relative humidity would stay within the effective range of the cooler. It's not as powerful as A/C ofc but it does something.
hahaha you're so poor
I couldn't even imagine coming to home to no AC when it's 30C outside with 90% humidity. Electricity is dirt cheap here in the summer so it costs me about $25 month running it the entire day and most of the night.
No you just think your air cons are so superb, here's a tip, stop being so fat
It gets fucking hot here so we must have ac, for real. I believe your weather is more temperate.
>buy a portable AC and have in the room I'm in
>problem solved
Everything euroshits alway say doesn't apply to Texas. There's a reason I never run into any foreigners not from humid regions.
i cant even afford the electricity for a fan anymore
maybe you should have thought about that before electing anti nuclear greens
Our prices are insane! I pay more in service fees than actual usage.
I have 2 prices for electicity.
> 0.40 cents per kWh (day)
> 0.36 cents per kWh (night + weekend)
The kWh price is build up of 3 parts
> I pay 0.33 cents for the actual electricity (day)
> I pay 0.04 cents towards taxes (day)
> I pay 0.03 cents towards energy storage (day)
> I pay 0.29 cents for the actual electricity (night + weekend))
> I pay 0.04 cents towards taxes (night + weekend))
> I pay 0.03 cents towards energy storage (night + weekend))
Ontop of that I pay 6,99 a month for "delivery costs" used to maintain the network. Weird thing is only 1 company owns the entire network of the country.
Ontop of that I pay 21% VAT over my total costs added together.
Don't you guys make redneck ACs out of beer coolers filled with ice, fans and pipes? And this shit actually works.
Brit houses are literally designed to hold heat inside as much as possible, I can't imagine the stench of sweat in summer
Mate, you need a loicense for that fan since it contains blades, innit
Here in Germany, during a hot summer, an AC would be useful for maybe 2 months per year.
But during those 2 months, you really need it.
I don't have AC and I suffer every summer. It is often 30+ Celsius inside the house. (86F). At some points it is even up to 35C (95F) inside the house.
As you can imagine, this also takes its toll on electronics and computers.
I want to buy an AC next year.
With the advances in solar energy, maybe there is a way to combine them. The summer heat powers the AC which cools me down.
It's already too late to buy AC for this year.
>I don't have AC and I suffer every summer. It is often 30+ Celsius inside the house. (86F). At some points it is even up to 35C (95F) inside the house.
I can relate bro, ive slept in 100f inside before lmao, its only possible if you at least have a fan on you blowing you all night.
That 104f we got last year with high humidity was fucking rough mate, even the poo in loos were moaning,
>oh god blimey this is like mumbai in monsoon season.
Two words
>Mini split
They have heat pumps as well
You can get ones here for around $500 that would cool a 600sq ft room, heat it as well in winter. A few hundred more for installation (but you could install yourself, goolge has many videos)
>Do Brits really?
My grandparents said that in the old days you'd go to the movie theater for "Cooled Air". They would blow a fan over huge blocks of ice above the balcony. Sometimes you get hit with a spritz of cold water. This was in New Orleans.
>porn website full of pedophiles shames England
Very serious.
I thought you were supposed to have the ice behind the fan. It might not be as cool but it will melt a lot slower.
The ice doesn't actually do anything, a bowl of ice will not move the needle especially with open windows. If you want an improvised cold air blaster make an improvised swamp cooler like the other Anon is talking about. The Shop Vac full of ice is a great idea but it'd be pretty loud, a regular cooler full of ice with airflow running through it is how most people do it, but you can also just get window unit ACs.
Y'all know about window units right? Cheap as fuck at Wally World, 30 minute install, and you can have like 40 Degree air blasting you directly in the face all day.
I have an oscillating tower cooler from Lidl that creates a comfortable breeze inside my cuckshed.
those cheap things eat electricity like a fatty eats twix
>$439.00 USD +tax
>+ tax
What do you mean by that? Are all prices in the israeliteS before tax or something?
Not in all states. Some states don't even have sales tax. But for the most part yes, prices don't include sales tax. There are also special teaxes on certain items like cigarettes that may not be applied to the advertised price.
>prices aren't even as they present
America is such a scam, kek. The only time the price isn't the same as presented, is when you buy wholesale as a registered business owner, but they go to special stores of course. But all normal stores/shops/whatever, will charge you the price they put on the item.
It's the same in Goymoney. You need a special card to shop @ a wholesale with a reduced tax rate.
It's one of the reason why every shitskins family owns at least one convenience shop.
You could do that if you own the property.
But it's easier to just install a mini split.
The fees for the montage are saner here.
I paid approx 350€ for the whole installation.
I own a 2 room condo. Had to install the exterior unit near the window facing the backyard 'cause the facade on the street side is land marked.
It's also forbidden to install a minisplit system as a tenant but many just ignore it.
>oceans
Then you get way too high humidity.
I came across aircon in Malaysia and the US.
I never want to live w/o one for the rest of my life.
Same goes for guns.
They're devious in the way the pinch everyone for every single cent they can shake out of you.
>sales tax
>state tax
>federal tax
What you're spending, how you're spending it, how Much you're spending and Where you're spending it.
You forgot...
>income tax (depends on state)
>property tax
>inheritance tax
>death tax
>withholdings for keeping boomers and naggers alive
By the time we get around to it, you realize that you're being taxed around 55%.
This confused me of when I was a kid and I travelled to the USA with my family. I remember going to a shop to buy sweets and carefully adding up the prices listed and counting our the right amount of dollars and cents. Then when the woman at the counter told me a different price I said she was wrong and she had to explain they add at the counter. She probably thought I was the most irritating little british cunt and wanted to shoot me with a gun
Windows Units won't fly here b7c of our retarded windows.
Kek. Keep telling that to yourself while I have cool 21 degrees throughout the whole summer. Only costs me 25-30€ in electricity.
Is it against code to just cut a hole in the wall for one? That's what my girlfriend's dad did for the tiny as house he had built before she was born. He still uses the building as a place to store his musical equipment and to jam. No idea why he didn't add a window for it in the first place. Actually maybe he did and just took the window out and cut it larger.
anon youre in germany, inland europe and way south, the temperature between us is completely different in the summer heat.
it was shitty here for less than a week while rest of europe was on fire for months.
most of england as op posted isnt bad either being surrounded by ocean and known for rainy weathers.
consoom with though if its a issue there the go ahead and buy it but the fan + ice is a good investment for me and many others in the north
>Windows Units won't fly here b7c of our retarded windows.
Maybe a mini-split?
%3D
Yes anon. I keep recommending them b/c I already own one^^
My bad. I saw someone else said when I scrolled down. My apologies sir.
just you wait goy. soon you will need to rent this ac unit and pay a co2 pollution tax in addition to paying triple the rate for the electricity used
I've only been to Yankland once, to Florida, in the summer. Stepping off the plane was like nothing I had ever experienced before. I was drowning in sweat before I even reached the tarmac, and I'm a skinny skele.
Just finished my workout about 10 mins ago, in what is one of the hottest days of the year, and all I needed to do to cool off was wade through my dogs' knee deep pool. Not even sweating half as much as just climbing them stairs off that plane.
We don't need A/C ever, even on these hot days, not only is it not that hot but it's nowhere near as humid
>my dogs' knee deep pool
What? Does your dog have its own pool?
Yes. It's just a paddling pool, not a permanent fixture.
Don't excite the Americans with names like 'paddling pool'
They'll only add it to the list
I have no concern for what Americans think of MY language.
If I want to dip my pinkie winkies in my splishy-splash while sipsipping on a bubblybooze then I bloody well will, God save the King
I once convinced my wife that you guys actually call gravy meat water while at Heathrow.
Luv me meat water mate.
I convinced some Americans that sightseeing in rural England (I live near where bits of Harry Potter was filmed) is called cottaging. And that sightseeing was called spying, and that spying is called espionage.
hopefully that caused a bit of bants down the road.
they also asked where High Why Comm Be is lol lmao our most extravagant tomfoolery is not pronouncing things as they are spelled.
(High Wycombe is pronounced High Whickham).
>I convinced some Americans that sightseeing in rural England (I live near where bits of Harry Potter was filmed) is called cottaging
Lmao I had the same thought.
What do Americans call paddling pools?
"kiddie pool" so same shit
The Gulf Coast is just especially humid. All the way from far East Texas to the East Coast of Florida has a ton of swampland. There is a reason invasive species like tropical birds and iguanas thrive in Florida.
OI M80 WHY IS THE AIR SO SPICY?! BIT PARCULAR INNIT?!
I do. Need to get some oxygen, you know. Plus, I am europoor, have to save on electricity.
the meme is that euros don't have ACs
the truth is NW euros don't need it, but having one is extremely popular in med and balkan countries
Is $450 really that much to a European? Are the Europoor memes true?
You can buy these things for 300€ @ every electronic department store but their performance is subpar, you can't use it as a supplement for heating during wintertime and the electricity costs will kill you.
Just invest more and go for a mini split. One way mini split is 1000-1300€ euros here. Installation fees included.
If you wanna or renovate a house opt for a duct system. Ideal would be a water-to-water heat pump.
I've got a total of 11 ceiling fans in a one story house, in conjunction with 2 window units it keeps the house very cool. I've got two woodstoves for heating during the winter. The ceiling fans set on low circulate the heat very well. I'll look into the mini split though
They make window units with heaters built in
>We call them Ptac units
Your average hotel has one in each room.
They cost a little more than your average one, but less than a mini split.
Also, naggers will rip them right out of your window if you live in some hell.hole.
Its common to see cages around a/c units, or airline cable attached
Americans have nearly the highest amount of disposable income in the world despite most living "paycheck to paycheck" in urban areas, as in most people in general. We have it pretty good currently but obviously it is getting worse.
In North-Western and Central Europe are basically the same. The Hajnal line comes to mind.
Oh for sure. Luxembourg is the highest after all.
Yes.
Americans have two times more money, with less taxes and lower prices. Europe is poor, common european live like part-time from mcdonalds. Other countries are basically bums on dumps - bare survival.
The thing is, the middle class is being extinguished throughout the western world, and Americans will soon not be able to afford to power their HVAC systems, assuming they still get power 24/7 as their grids fail like South Africa. This is the point at which they will discover the consequences of living in a continent with extreme weather with houses that were not designed to deal passively with these extremes. Apart from smug coastal Californians and a few dozen Hippies living in adobe homes in New Mexico, they are going to live out their lives in the misery of a 3,000sqft McMansion which affords no relief from extreme heat or extreme cold. Once again, Europoors in their comfy trad houses win in the long-term.
Well, maybe.
But when they get to this point we will be absolutely fucked, with cost of power skyrocketing, millions of naggers on gibs, major cities basically abandoned dumpsters.
2 more weeks!
That’s half a months wage outside of first world Europe a whole months wage in poorer Europe
Lulwut? The avg. salary here is around 3.5k dollars. I make a little less, around 3k. After taxes. That's literally over 6x one AC unit. And I'm a fucking lazy painter. How poor are you bongs?
also, you can sail across the sea by blowing air into the sail through a straw
It won't cool the room, especially if the ice was made in the kitchen freezer. But it absolutely works if the flow is directed at you. Even a mini fan over ice will cool you down a lot, if it's in front of you.
>Do Brits really?
i feel bad for brits. In my basement is a device the size of 2 full size refrigerators with an intricate network of pipes and ductwork running throughout the house, all just to keep my 3000 sq ft house cool when i spend 95% of the time in my bedroom
Fucking eurotrash.
At least learn something from Floridaman and get a foam cooler fill it with ice and cut two holes on each end and put a fan on one end to blow towards you. Boom mobile air conditioner. Bonus points if you have a drain plug for the excess water at the bottom as you add more ice.
If it's colder outside you don't need the fan. If it's hotter outside the fan should be blowing in the other direction OR the window should be closed.
You would only need air con for half a month in the uk in a home so I open a window and just hope there is some sort of breeze no need for a thread now is there.
When is it warm enough to even warrant a fan?
Do you live in some 3rd world shithole that is unfit for humans but you're too poor to move away from it? Why don't you migrate to the canooks. They can afford to live in a colder climate so they don't need to be poor and buy things to keep them cold, they fight with cold instead and that's far easier anyway. But I know you gotta afford to move there and all
I never wanna live w/o an aircon ever again.
Everybody who has exp an aircon @ home usually agrees with me.^^
Do they not have window screens? I was watching some British series and the windows were wide open and no screen. What about BEES? And flies? Gross.
>What about BEES? And flies? Gross.
>xhe's afraid of bees and a couple of flies
Muttmerica really is the gayest country in the world.
Wait till you hear about Beeflies
Bees don't come inside generally, if they do you shoo them out.
Flies are a minor problem if you keep you food & waste in a container with a lid, and keep your house clean. We have noticeably less flies than you even in the city though, and barely any biters (Scotland has midges but they hang around water so you don't get them inside so much).
I have 2 fly catchers in my house and they do the trick. And I live in the countryside
>We have noticeably less flies than you even in the city though, and barely any biter
This demoralized me a lot. I hate fucking flies. I have to close my door fast so they don’t get in. And you just open your windows and let the wind blow through your home without worrying. I’m jealous. It’s not fair.
>have to close my door fast so they don’t get in
You must be kidding. Just how many flies are we talking about? Was your house built on old indian latrine or something?
Yep, most people here don't even know how lucky we have it because we're used to it:
>Few stinging insects
>No biting insects
>No venomous snakes (except an Adder but they're rare as fuck and the bites only hurt a little)
>No venomous bugs
>No venomous fish
>No carnivores larger than a terrier (biggest we get is a Badger, which you almost never see anyway)
>No tropical storms
>No tornados
>No earthquakes
We're just mild all over, in every respect
tbh i think we killed everything dangerous here a thousand years ago and chopped down 90% of the forrests too.
we killed nearly everything dangerous, until Cromwell let them back in again.
sometimes im glad i live nowhere fucking close to places like london and birmingham.
you dont have wolf? Overpop in deers inc which eat small trees which is bad
They have shit ton of nobles there, keeping population in check.
Not for several hundred years, no.
There are campains to try and bring them back but they're heavily opposed by farmers.
Deer populations are limited usually by space, because as
pointed out, we have no large forests left really. The deer are culled if they get to be a problem beyond that
>No venomous fish
Tread on a Weaver Fish and find out.
I stand corrected, I hadn't heard of these before, looks like they're mostly further up north on the Scottish/Welsh coastline than down in England. Seem like right little cunts though
Yeah, nasty but could be worse. The Australian equivalent, Stonefish, is fatal. Of course.
>No white people
you missed that
I haven't seen a non-white person in weeks. The most 'foreign' person in my village comes from Liverpool
Is it even legal in britain for some community to be without resident nagger? I wonder if they introduce “netional tolerance day” when nazis like you have to go to human zoo and take a look at nagger.
Not even kidding when I moved here from the town I lived in before I was accused by not just one of my former 'friends' of being racist; of only wanting to live in a nice area in the countryside because there was no black people. The villages still have the heart of England, but they all still watch the same TV so the mind virus is creeping in. I reckon this is the last generation we'll have of this, even the boomers here are turning
Same here anon but I live I the middle of nowhere. They tend to flock to the cities because they came here for the consumerism anyway.
What the fuck do bees need in your house? Do you have a garden there? She will just check there are no flowers and fuck off.
>flies
They are somewhere else, at the dumpster.
And I have metal blinds and curtains, you can move them aside.
>What the fuck do bees need in your house?
To make me wave my arms and run around like a crazy person? I would prefer bees over flies though.
Why do you bother? Seriously, maybe you mistake them with wasps? You know, bee is hairy and rounder.
I like to go to the garden when there are flowers to watch them work. Watching others work is amazing.
>They are somewhere else, at the dumpster.
Anon's house probably smells like a dumpster.
I have not insulated 51 cm wide porous brick walls. Even in the hottest days it does not get hot enough to offset the night cooling.
Insulation is for poor.
I'll never understand the temperature fragility of americans. You waste so much money (that you dont have) for some machine to keep the temperature perfectly stable and cry like it's the end of the world when it breaks. To make it worse your houses are far worse insulated so it's much easier to cope with heat. I know it's a meme but it's gotta be down to obesity levels there, yanks literally cannot survive without AC.
Dunno.
I have seen interview with one russian and he admitted that americans are much more cold tolerant than him or his russian comrades.
its probably a regional thing, i bet alaskans and shit are tough as fuck, same as people from texas and florida who work outside, californians who work in an office though are probably homosexuals who would cry left alone in parts of liverpool
It would be like comparing a liberal from brighton with a chav from a glasgow estate
He was from Ural, so should be tough as nail. He suggested that it is influenced of central heating that is so hot if unregulated that they open windows at winter to cool off.
In Europe too, I saw there people going out with thin coats and tshirts when we would've already used hats and sweeters and heavier coats
It was 50ºC almost all of last week where I live. I needed AC, because I didn't wanna die.
its not temperature its the humidity causing mold in your home and destroying all of your posessions slowly
>using a fan
I literally cannot afford it anymore with the fucking electrical bills now. these fucking greens need to be lined up
mate most fans use about 10-20w, its literally like 1p an hour to use.
Who can afford that much ice?
Moving the fan away from the window is legit.
The ice thing is fucking stupid though. There is way too much thermal mass in the massive volume of air being moved for it to have any significant effect.
that video is helpful
Yeah, he's got lots of great videos. Informative/Entertaining enough to bother to watch at least.
i was messing with blowing hot air out of my house a few days ago and it seemed to help, maximizing flow to cool it down once the temp change is more conducive outside will help next week, think i still have a couple more days of 27/28c ish, then its going to drop to about 12c so i can blast all the hot air out
Fucking retarded
Needs ice to create the energy
Creates humidity, which remains even after shit warms back up
In the end you're sticky and hot
Green fascism is trying to force morons back to the 1600's. Either willingly and if not enough, unwillingly.
We're still mostly in the willing phase.
Funny enough, these are the same who masked up, got boosted, support ukraine, and believe BLM.
imagine living in a burning hell hole where you need to care about cooling, here its a good temp in my cellar all year around, and we have refugees who deliver me food cheeply
Enjoy growing mold in your council flat, Nigel.
There is a reason why air-conditioners also remove humidity. Evaporative coolers are suitable for hot, dry places, which Britbongistan is not.
You have insulted our people. I hereby challenge you to a gun duel at Heathrow Airport tomorrow at High Noon.
Bring only a .45 cal handgun of your choice.
You need bars on the window to stop a Bully XL flying in, and tearing your children to pieces.
Keep the window.closed.if.youre going to do that nonsense.
>forcing the fridge to work continuously making ice cubes
>opening the fridge door many times
This consumes more electricity than a normal AC unit.
>not closing the damn window
This is bong tier retardation
Outside = 33c
Inside = 26c
No A/C, just learn to build proper houses mutts. and no i'm not going to convert these to f so you can understand it.
>Can I have some ice for my water?
>You mean like from a fan?
Damn American tourists
This sounds like a lot of work when you could just turn the air conditioner on..?
>average british house
Still sturdier and colder than a paper and glue house little buddy.
my house is older than your country mate
right now it's 36 degrees in Wakanda (formerly known as Paris).
It's super hot, and my car blew the AC compressor yesterday too.
Shit sucks, but we know damn well it's gonna be raining soon. This ain't Tahiti homosexuals
nagger
These thhreads always have the same fucking cope from bongs and euros
>hurrr we don't need it, its only hot like 1% of the year
meanwhile summer starts and they bitch nonstop for a few months about how hot it is until summer is over, EVERY YEAR
Just like the million threads we get on how important it is to keep your guns but when something happens you're all too pussy to use them. EVERY DAY
americans can have the 2nd amendment specifically because they will never use their guns.
give any euro country 2nd amendment and it turns into the 4th reich overnight, and all politicians and israelites get lynched live on TV after a few days
we're not made the same. they've been domesticated humans for way too long
>deflection
Lmao how israelitesish of you
It's not deflection, we've already addressed the point in that post several times over in the thread. It's a shitpost as a response to a shitpost. Not a bad shitpost apparently considering the 3 bites already
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>Americans have guns and cool breeze
>Bongs have neither
you sure showed him
BONGED
Marilyn Monroe cooled her pussy that way.
Seethe harder incels.
imagine the smell in that whole room
Europe is basically an entire country that falls for troll physics memes from 2012
Don't they understand that warm objects (such as water in your freezer) causes the freezer to run harder in order to stabilize the ambient temperature in the freezer?
There is no such thing as free energy. This is a very inefficient way to cool a room. Especially with a fucking window open. They're all for saving energy, then you see something this retarded? Get a window a/c.
AC is absolute dogshit. No-one ever cleans them properly so they're infested with all sorts of disgusting things, they stink regardless of cleanliness, and cost ridiculous amounts of money to run.
Fan chads stay winning. There is nothing better than sitting in front of a fan on a hot summer day.
Wtf at that point just buy an evaporative cooler
If they pay for a ice cube license they do.
Bongs are such fucking retards.
The fan would never 'pull' air in through the window as in the illustration. A fan takes air to be propelled forward from the entire back and sides.
The fan has to be pointed out the window. The air blown out the front of the fan is more directional and can be directed out the window, another open window to let the air in can create a good airflow.
This will make your house muggy its basically a swamp cooler or whatever they're called
Pakis can't afford AC
skinhead say paki no spend money
skinhead say paki no live no way
skinhead a bash them
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>Agoolo bougolo bougalo
Ok nagger, not get on the plane you are going to Nigeria
>power a freezer to freeze ice to blow air on to cool your house
yeah they should put the compressor outside and the evap coil inside the house and just run a fan over that
Normies are complete clueless about thermodynamics. I once tried to help my buddy figure out what the problem with his A/C was in his apartment and he had an outdoor A/C unit with the exhaust pipe running from the unit to a window or something, so the exhaust pipe just radiated so much heat when the thing was running and the power of running the thing inside his room was obviously contributing too. The dude didn't even listen to me, either. It blew cold air when he started it up, so it was all good.
You can't suck air into a room like that. You can however blow air out of a room. It's more effective to just blow yourself with the fan though unless it's night time and you want to exchange the air from inside with outside more quickly.
Also, my HR manager has an actual evaporative cooler in her office, however there is no ventilation at all. None of the windows open on that floor. She just runs the humidity up to 100% and hasn't realised after a week that she's making the heat much worse by doing this.