>do you miss the sound of spinning disks? if so then yes
Never hated the sound, but I like to have an archiving option that is cheaper than USB, so I can buy it in mass. should I get a blueray or is DVD still good enough?
blue ray never received the kind of mass-adoption that would drive disc prices low enough for archival viability. really, just use low-RPM hdds unless you're big enough to justify the high up-front cost of a modern tape-based solution
DVDs are fine
20 dollars for a 256GB usb drive
vs
20 dollars for a fifty 25GB blurays(1.2TB altogether)
vs
1TB hdd which costs between 20 dollars(if it's a used one) and 40 dollars.
I used some just last week. Had to drive an older car a long distance and burned a couple of albums to CD for the journey
Those were the first discs I had burned in almost a decade. Everything worked, unlike the days when you’d leave the room for fear of disturbing the 1x write kek
The organic dyes in normal burnable media eventually decay and become unreadable; since I'm burning the discs to back up data as an offsite backup, it's nice knowing they won't fail within my lifetime
m-disc marketing has convinced zoomer retards that discs rot like cheese
The Canadian Conversation Institute has an article where they estimate the average lifespan for various types of burnable media. (I can't post a link, the post gets filtered).
The key takeaway is that for Blu-ray especially, there's only an average expected lifespan of up to 50 years. (Other media types like high-quality CD-Rs can last for 100+ years.)
M-DISC is interesting because they use a higher-power laser to etch onto a ceramic recording layer, so although you need a special burner, you can read the media in most standard readers. That gives me peace of mind that in 50 years when they roll me out in a wheelchair, I can bore everyone else going through a slide-show of old family photos and home videos.
For most use-cases I agree M-DISCs are not necessary
>Other media types like high-quality CD-Rs
Any brands in specific?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
In the Canadian Conservation Institute article they recommend the following CD-R manufacturers:
* Mitsui Advanced Media
* Falcon Technologies
but I have no personal experience with them; I just use Blu-ray M-DISCs since I want the large capacity.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thank you.
Also, I remember someone posted that the durability claims of M-DISCs only applied to the DVD ones and not Blu-ray. I'm not sure if that's true, but you should look it up since you do use it.
it's some bullshit article where they claim that discs last only 3 years or something
anyone who owns discs know this is bullshit
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Personally I'd believe the CCI; they have no reason to lie, since if the Canadian government followed their recommendations for archival media and then found that they needed to be replaced ahead of schedule, they would probably get in trouble. I'm not trying to suggest that standard burnable media deteriorates at an unreasonable rate, just that for my specific use-case (keeping an off-site archive that doesn't require power/periodic maintenance), I would prefer not to roll the dice. In the CCI article they list that even the poorest quality consumer-available burnable media has an average lifespan of 5-10 years, which I would say is more than sufficient if you're just trying to burn some MP3s to listen to in your car like others are talking about in this thread.
Thank you.
Also, I remember someone posted that the durability claims of M-DISCs only applied to the DVD ones and not Blu-ray. I'm not sure if that's true, but you should look it up since you do use it.
>CD and DVD are fragile and rot away over the years.
As someone who has 20 year old dvd-rs and cd-rs i know for a fact that this is bullshit. i have dvd-rs that are over 20 years old and they look brand new
Why not?
Not only will it almost guarantee it survives at least as long as I do so I'll always have access to the data, but it can be provide a "woah, so that's what grandpa used to watch/read/write!"
I don't see any negatives.
>woah, so that's what grandpa used to watch/read/write! I don't see any negatives.
>your great-great grandchildren (fathered via sperm bank donation) from the year 2300 will be critiquing your taste in early 2000s American gonzo porn
What a time to (not) be alive
if each mp3 is around 4mb you can fit like 175 songs on a single disc. you can fit a whole discography on a disc
that's why i say burn mp3s to a disc(as data) instead of burning them as audio
if your car cd player can play mp3s it will play them from the disc
i remember seeing a guy on youtube who burned all his porn to a m-discs. why would you do that?you want people to see what you fapped to after you died?
Of course, written at slowest burn speed, for anything I care about backing up. I have discs from around 2000 which read fine but I re-burn them to ensure file survival.
Yes I use them for my game consoles all modchipped to use discs where possible because I like burning the discs and putting discs in the machine instead of using flashcarts/odes
I'm actively archiving all my CDs and DVDs, so I'm currently using a DVDR, hoping to never use it in the future.
I'm willing to go back, but in still considering.
Should I buy bluerays?
blu-ray disk burners yes
do you miss the sound of spinning disks? if so then yes
>do you miss the sound of spinning disks? if so then yes
Never hated the sound, but I like to have an archiving option that is cheaper than USB, so I can buy it in mass. should I get a blueray or is DVD still good enough?
bluray, don't be retarded, it has more disk space
blue ray never received the kind of mass-adoption that would drive disc prices low enough for archival viability. really, just use low-RPM hdds unless you're big enough to justify the high up-front cost of a modern tape-based solution
DVDs are fine
you can get a 50 pack of blurays for 20 dollars if you buy the smartbuy ones.
that's like a dollar for two 1/2 discs
50 is as many as 5 tens... and that's terrible.
20 dollars for a 256GB usb drive
vs
20 dollars for a fifty 25GB blurays(1.2TB altogether)
vs
1TB hdd which costs between 20 dollars(if it's a used one) and 40 dollars.
the 50 blurays is the best deal of these three
I used some just last week. Had to drive an older car a long distance and burned a couple of albums to CD for the journey
Those were the first discs I had burned in almost a decade. Everything worked, unlike the days when you’d leave the room for fear of disturbing the 1x write kek
What's a good free windows program to create my own audio cd's with? What do you use?
iTunes
Really? In windows? I know in linux there's k3b....
https://cdburnerxp.se/
k3b is the best disc burning software
you can burn cd-rs, dvd-rs and bd-rs without having to install any drivers or anything
i use it regularly
k3b is the best software to come from kde.i am a gnome user
I still use MP3 CDs in my car, might burn a couple new ones for a road trip this weekend.
Every once in a while. They are quite useful when other solutions like SD cards or USB sticks are not an option.
yes, it's the most reliable storage.
it doesn't have mechanical parts like a hdd. those mechanical parts will most likely break eventually
I use M-DISCs for archiving occasionally, since then I don't have to worry about keeping spinning disks powered & running scrubs
these are unnecessary
i use the cheapest discs and they still work after a decade
The organic dyes in normal burnable media eventually decay and become unreadable; since I'm burning the discs to back up data as an offsite backup, it's nice knowing they won't fail within my lifetime
>The organic dyes in normal burnable media eventually decay and become unreadable
bullshit. this is just m-disc marketing to get you buy their overpriced discs
to get you to buy their*
The Canadian Conversation Institute has an article where they estimate the average lifespan for various types of burnable media. (I can't post a link, the post gets filtered).
The key takeaway is that for Blu-ray especially, there's only an average expected lifespan of up to 50 years. (Other media types like high-quality CD-Rs can last for 100+ years.)
M-DISC is interesting because they use a higher-power laser to etch onto a ceramic recording layer, so although you need a special burner, you can read the media in most standard readers. That gives me peace of mind that in 50 years when they roll me out in a wheelchair, I can bore everyone else going through a slide-show of old family photos and home videos.
For most use-cases I agree M-DISCs are not necessary
>Other media types like high-quality CD-Rs
Any brands in specific?
In the Canadian Conservation Institute article they recommend the following CD-R manufacturers:
* Mitsui Advanced Media
* Falcon Technologies
but I have no personal experience with them; I just use Blu-ray M-DISCs since I want the large capacity.
Thank you.
Also, I remember someone posted that the durability claims of M-DISCs only applied to the DVD ones and not Blu-ray. I'm not sure if that's true, but you should look it up since you do use it.
it's some bullshit article where they claim that discs last only 3 years or something
anyone who owns discs know this is bullshit
Personally I'd believe the CCI; they have no reason to lie, since if the Canadian government followed their recommendations for archival media and then found that they needed to be replaced ahead of schedule, they would probably get in trouble. I'm not trying to suggest that standard burnable media deteriorates at an unreasonable rate, just that for my specific use-case (keeping an off-site archive that doesn't require power/periodic maintenance), I would prefer not to roll the dice. In the CCI article they list that even the poorest quality consumer-available burnable media has an average lifespan of 5-10 years, which I would say is more than sufficient if you're just trying to burn some MP3s to listen to in your car like others are talking about in this thread.
Thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into that
>50 years from now
>in retirement home
>bust out M-Discs
>play Caramelldansen on the speakers during bingo night
i have a collection of illegal pirated media in dvdr form
No, CD and DVD are fragile and rot away over the years.
Blu-Ray is better, but it's tricky to decide what to buy. Old HTL 25GB discs will life longer.
>CD and DVD are fragile and rot away over the years.
As someone who has 20 year old dvd-rs and cd-rs i know for a fact that this is bullshit. i have dvd-rs that are over 20 years old and they look brand new
you guys act like discs rot as if they are food
m-disc marketing has convinced zoomer retards that discs rot like cheese
Yeah I burned some CDs for my car that still has a player recently.
Should I but a M-Disc?
100 years survival rate sounds good.
But is lame since the whole point is that it survives a millennium.
why would you want them to survive for a millennium?
i want my discs to survive until i die. i don't care what happens to them after i die
>why would you want them to survive for a millennium?
No but that's what the M in M-disc stands for.
good for you, I want the media to outlive me.
what data would you be putting on the disc that you would want it to outlive you?
programs you created?
why would you want pirated content to outlive you? why would you want your porn to outlive you?
Why not?
Not only will it almost guarantee it survives at least as long as I do so I'll always have access to the data, but it can be provide a "woah, so that's what grandpa used to watch/read/write!"
I don't see any negatives.
>woah, so that's what grandpa used to watch/read/write! I don't see any negatives.
>your great-great grandchildren (fathered via sperm bank donation) from the year 2300 will be critiquing your taste in early 2000s American gonzo porn
What a time to (not) be alive
I just burn individual albums to a disc because I've had a stack for years now and just want to put them all to use. They only hold 750mb anyways.
if each mp3 is around 4mb you can fit like 175 songs on a single disc. you can fit a whole discography on a disc
that's why i say burn mp3s to a disc(as data) instead of burning them as audio
if your car cd player can play mp3s it will play them from the disc
i remember seeing a guy on youtube who burned all his porn to a m-discs. why would you do that?you want people to see what you fapped to after you died?
>whoa, grandpa really couldn't get enough of Angela White breastfeeding, huh?
if you look at the average m-discs i bet it's gonna be full of pirated content and porn
average m-disc*
Of course, written at slowest burn speed, for anything I care about backing up. I have discs from around 2000 which read fine but I re-burn them to ensure file survival.
Yes I use them for my game consoles all modchipped to use discs where possible because I like burning the discs and putting discs in the machine instead of using flashcarts/odes