Did people really live more "meaningfull" lives in the past?

Hiw and why?

  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    At the very least, I would say that people believed that their lives were more meaningful. However, most people are actually misguided cowards and aren't sincere. But I do also sincerely believe that there was more of a feeling of purpose say, 100 years ago, than now. Secularism basically sucked the notion of truth out of society, and now people have no reason to do anything, so there's no meaning. Nihilism is the natural result. Along with many other things that have contributed to severe social destabilization.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, largely because of the nature of their work. Faith was still a relevant part of society and guided public life, In Modern society, work has degenerated, people have become toxic and sterile, No one rational wants any sort of further growth or expansion of current humanity.

      Religion and faith wasn't really any more a personal part of anyone's life back then than it was today, they were just forced to partake in it as part of the law. Someone who goes to church only because of a legal mandate isn't going to fill any more fulfilled than if they hadn't gone at all.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they were just forced to partake in it as part of the law
        What law?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          The non-secular laws referred to in

          At the very least, I would say that people believed that their lives were more meaningful. However, most people are actually misguided cowards and aren't sincere. But I do also sincerely believe that there was more of a feeling of purpose say, 100 years ago, than now. Secularism basically sucked the notion of truth out of society, and now people have no reason to do anything, so there's no meaning. Nihilism is the natural result. Along with many other things that have contributed to severe social destabilization.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, even as recent as 1990s people were way more religious, than they are now, and studies have confirmed that radical change in social opinion, fertility etc was correlated to decline in religion, also there was no explicit law that said people must perform rituals, that was just part of culture and larger faith, laws starting from separation of church and state to abolishing it from general education, have only inhibited religion.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >laws starting from separation of church and state
          Those laws started centuries before the 1990's you idiot.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            And? It has been a general trend, my point was to showcase the fact that laws have mostly inhibited religion rather than enforcing it, same happened since 90s, with more intensity than ever before.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is the answer of someone who's family has been atomized since he was born. Don't you talk to your grandparents? I knew my great grandmother until I was 9 and she was sincerely religious as was her husband by all accounts. Their own parents even more so.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they were just forced to partake in it as part of the law.
        What ''law'' just happened to spontaneously exist in all 4 corners of the world, in all eras we can remember?

        It's basically all a coercive conspiracy since the age of cavemen?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they were just forced to partake in it as part of the law.

        How does this explain religious revivals and denominations like eg Fifth Monarchy Men, Quakers, Shakers, Mormons, Pentecostals, JWs, etc.?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mind you that this notion of "truth" is untrue to begin with, so yes, people in the past held delusions and false beliefs and let these dictate their lives. There may be practical benefits to this, but I value actual truth far more and can only look at this with contempt.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Secularism basically sucked the notion of truth out of society, and now people have no reason to do anything, so there's no meaning.
      Imagine the need for someone to tell you what to do and why, what s pathetic and dependant personality.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, largely because of the nature of their work. Faith was still a relevant part of society and guided public life, In Modern society, work has degenerated, people have become toxic and sterile, No one rational wants any sort of further growth or expansion of current humanity.

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fewer people, the more meaningful one person’s actions are. Now you can be as smart as Newton, but there will already be thousands of people as smart as you who have done everything you need to do, and hundreds even smarter, with whom you can't even compete. There's no point in even trying to make an impact.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      There haven't been thousands of people smart as me doing the things I need to do there are like 2 others and I'm better than them.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nihilism = Density

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is true, the more bug hive you are the more demoralized you become

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Being abused and dominated by sadists was never meaningful. People didn't breed more in the past because they wanted to perpetuate the society they lived in or because they thought it was meaningful they bred because they had less ability to isolate themselves from people who would starve, brutalize, mutilate, harass them etc if they refused to breed. Life was less meaningful in the past, people had less agency, they were physically, emotionally and psychologically broken.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why did people try to escape from cities into nomadic villages then?
      Why do people today do "survivalist" actions such as hiking, fishing, hunting, and camping as leisure?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doing recreational outdoor activities in modern times is nothing like being a medieval farmer.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s harder.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why would we go back to the Middle Ages? Let’s go to the Neolithic or the Paleolithic. And why farm? Most humans were hunters and herders outside of river valleys.
          They worked less, hard larger families, had more friends, had deeper connections, and had a greater sense of wonder.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >hiking, fishing, hunting, and camping as leisure?
        This isn't new at all

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          It is extremely new.

          >Why do people today do "survivalist" actions such as hiking, fishing, hunting, and camping as leisure?

          People have always done this. Medieval Kings and nobility would hunt for sport.

          And medieval kings were closer to us than they were to 99% of our shared ancestors.

          Medieval kings wanted to get back out into nature.

          So why do we keep thinking it’s a good to move away from a natural life.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's far too late for the majority of people to think of going back "to a natural life."

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do people today do "survivalist" actions such as hiking, fishing, hunting, and camping as leisure?

        People have always done this. Medieval Kings and nobility would hunt for sport.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know what a "meaningful life" is or how in the world you're supposed to tell whether historical people's lives were "meaningful."
    People in the past were definitely not more religious. Rodney Stark has a good book on this called The Triumph of Faith. Just to give an example, weekly church attendance is very common these days, yet it was basically unheard of in the medieval period. The average rural peasant did not have easy access to a church. As such, the Fourth Lateran Council only required people to go to church and receive the sacraments once a year.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Because of religion.

    Modern people don’t like this answer but it’s just true. They weren’t happier necessarily. But the principles that guided their lives aimed at a higher good; at the divine. Gave them a purpose outside of themselves.

    Today those principles are aimed at lower goods like comfort, mundane pleasures, and counterfeit happiness. All selfish goals. The result is anxiety, depression, loneliness, suicide, corruption etc. it’s not good.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is simply wishful thinking. If you ask a medieval peasant why his life is full of meaning, he will answer that it is because of family, dancing, and a good harvest. And not a word about God.
      > Gave them a purpose outside of themselves.
      They couldn't even read the Bible. 😐

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is blatantly disingenuous. A medieval grave should tell you that the average working man and his family believed and practised their faith. Just reading a gravestone post 1990 will tell you most people are secular today

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they weren't happier but they were filled with false hope about spiritual rewards because they were lied to!!

      Delayed gratification is still selfish. Being denied the payoff because people lied about heaven doesn't make life better it makes it worse, it makes society fundamentally evil and cruel. "lower comforts" are all that matter because they're all that exist. Lying to people that there's something better just makes you evil.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure the lives of the devout felt more meaningful, but in every society most people will be halfhearted in their belief of social values, and a big chunk of the population will be antisocial criminals. This is attested to by tales of bandits in medieval times and picaresque novels of the early modern period. Not to mention stuff like the Canterbury tales which openly mocked the church's corruption. A lot of people were sincere and did a lot of good, but I find it hard to believe the average peasant had much appreciation for high theology or mysticism before the reformation when they don't even read the Bible. Then after the reformation, people did start to take religion into their own hands but ended up making a bunch of cooky cults like the Shakers or Calvinists. I'm sure their lives felt meaningful as well but it feels kinda silly because it's literally impossible for every Christian sect to be right when they contradict each other.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The atheists' failed power fantasy was not prevalent.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus would approve people on the right. He was friends with literal prostitute and rebel against the status quo.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus told a woman she had no real husband because of how many times she slept around and got divorced, and wasn't afraid to tell common folk that they were children of the devil and were going to suffer worse fates than Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus flipped over tables and beat people with a whip screaming at them "HOW DARE YOU TURN MY FATHER'S HOUSE INTO A DEN OF VIPERS".

        Jesus was not a fucking hippy. And that literal prostitute you refer to? He accepted her after she repented of her sins. He didn't say "YOU GO GIRL! SEX WORK IS REAL WORK AND DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH YOUR BODY!"

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Jesus told a woman she had no real husband because of how many times she slept around and got divorced

          What woman?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        He didn't "approve" of sinners he tried to help them back onto the right path. And to the ones he wouldn't listen he said "woe to you."

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        That bone shrine looks sick

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >fighting ox with lethal farts
        >werewolves existed
        >people literally prayed with their ancestors present
        The good old times were a lot more interesting than now.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The left panels need work, since two of them are depicting things thatvare supposed to be not of this world and one is just Jesus with His earthly parents.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like how is the bone church and the guy getting farted on worse than the bad things in the atheist picture. I'd rather deal with explosive goat diarrhea than have my kids get taught insane gender ideology in school.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The right part represents religion on both pics.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why does God give cancer to
      babies?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        He doesn’t “give” give cancer to babies. We invited death into the world by eating the forbidden fruit. But God loves us so much that he gave us the tools to develop medicine

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    christcucks are mentally ill

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!
        Why are chuds like this lmao

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        disabling parts of the brain can also cure mental illness

        kind of make sense considering that believing in things that are not real is the hallmark of mental illness

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    > why?
    No Internet

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is how the street looks today

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      What happened?

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Read The Dubliners from Joyce

    Short answer is no

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Absolutely, because it was possible to go through the power process. On a daily base even. Read Ted Kaczynski.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pre-agriculture? Absolutely.

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