I don't know what it means. I have a decent situation right now, my rent is expensive ($3000/month) but I can afford it. I don't want to live anywhere else. But I wonder what else I can be doing with the money, and I am starting to want to live in my car again. I've been homeless before as a civilian for a short bit, and I've lived in my car for like 2 months during winter/spring during service as well - but this was on base so it was much safer and everything I ever needed was free and available.
Now I am in the civilian world and I am getting dissatisfied with living in a home, even a nice place like what I have right now. Having to clean the place is getting on my nerves. Cooking and washing dishes is getting on my nerves. Having all this shit is getting on my nerves. The fridge full of food is getting on my nerves. I feel so weighed down by all the stuff, even though I actually don't have that much stuff compared to most people I know. I miss the freedom of living in my car and just driving it around to different places, not being held down by shit. Feeling free from a lease. Nothing to clean besides just my car interior.
The problem is safety especially from weirdos and cops, getting beat up by cops, some inconveniences, and dating. But then I feel like I was never made to function in a normal life, with a normal job, with normal friends, with a normal partner, with normal hobbies, with normal TV shows, and normal dreams and aspirations. I don't know if this is a sign of mental illness.
Check this out anon:
Eh. I am not about to deck out some van.
Not a lot of places to park with a van like that in my area
He lucked out when he found an ambulance for $2800
is that even legal?
I was going to rent a studio space for my desktop and books and art supplies for like $250/month, and shower at the gym where I spend a lot of time anyway. The heat is gonna suck in the summer and I am hoping it's not too bad at night, but I live in the north near the lakes so it's not too shitty. Sleeping in the car is fine, but bathroom runs at night are the PITA and being seen walking around at night would attract security guards and weirdos.
A sedan, which I have slept in before. But I lived on a military base so it was easy to access a 24/7 toilet at night without anyone noticing or caring.
>is that even legal?
If people are allowed to buy used police cars, surely they can buy used ambulances.
>is that even legal?
It is! I think you have to remove the word ambulance from it though. I want one but ones with 4 wheel drive are hard to come by and expensive when you find them.
Yeah your main problem is parking it somewhere you won't be bothered. I lived out of my car for a while but I was sleeping at free campsites, pretty far from cities and towns. What do you do for work? Is there any chance you could go remote?
I am in school so I need to be within the city or have access to the city limits.
I haven't had a real job since separating from the military. I am your stereotypical fucked in the head veteran. Not because of my service, it's just because of me. I've been living off savings but part of me thinks of other people who work so long and hard for $3000 and I feel bad spending so much on rent. But I don't want to sign a lease with another place either.
When I was living on military bases, I would park at certain places with easy access to the bathrooms. That's the biggest PITA for me. I can think of a place I can park overnight without getting harassed but then the bathroom is the tough part.
What do you drive? Like is there a place you could potentially stash a camp toilet that you only use in uh...emergencies?
Where are you spending $3k/month for rent? Why are you spending that much? Why did you put yourself in a situation where you're spending that much but you're the type of loser who wants to live in their car?
What is your income/savings like? Would living in your car not impact your ability to generate that income and/or increase your expenses?
Why not just get a smaller apartment? Lots of people prefer smaller places, not just the $ cost.
because where I live is so fucking nice and I can afford it. I've saved all my life and wanted to live a little. I haven't had a real job since separating from the military. I am your stereotypical fucked in the head veteran. Not because of my service, it's just because of me.
The thing is, I don't want to sign a place for another place, and as I've said a lot of things about living in a home is getting on my nerves. I want to live in a car. It's not even mainly about saving money.
>all our modern conveinences seem trivial and stupid
That's how I feel. Like yeah it's nice and it was a good time to enjoy them but at the same time I don't trust it. I don't trust how comfortable I am. I feel like I am getting to complacent. I also lowkey despise civilians, not all of them, not even most of them, but a lot of them. With their stupid fucking problems and stupid dreams and stupid goals that don't even matter, I vomit a little in my mouth when a man says his life goal is to "travel the world" or his proudest achievement is travelling 18 countries or some bullshit. Or he doesn't get the job he wants or the school he wants to go into, and it's the fucking end of the world. Most civilian men aren't real men to me, they're such chickenshits. Military had chickenshit too and the type of guys who collect funkopops and talk about respecting pronouns but jesus...
I feel like a crazy person compared to these civilians, even a lot of the nice and down to earth ones. Women are okay, because not much is expected of women anyway. I like a woman as long as she's not some stuck up bitch. But the guys.
you're gonna carry that sentiment the rest of your life dude. i've been out for over 10 years and i still feel the same way. there's a reason you see so many vets go homeless or fuck off innawoods somewhere, civvies will never ever understand your perspective. you aren't fucked in the head man, you've seen the world for what it is and can't unsee it. live how you want. i would at least get a van or something if i were you.
$3k a month for a single "stereotypical fucked in the head" dude is insane. You should be putting that much towards a mortgage every month if you can afford that so easily, instead you're just pissing it down the drain.
>I want to live in a car. It's not even mainly about saving money.
Fine. But it would be hell of a lot easier if you kept an apartment, house, or even a piece of land that you could return to and take a short break from your car camping. Car camping puts a lot of stress on your car and your body (an actual truck camper, van camper, or trailer would help a lot).
You're going to need a setup like this dude, and this shit does not look sustainable in the long term
I think you're dumb, but godspeed anyways anon
Rent being "pissing money away" is boomer advice. Home ownership isn't an investment and not a guarantee of making your money back, and it keeps you stuck in a place and you're responsible for a bunch of other bullshit that comes with home ownership. Buy a home if you plan on living somewhere long term. I wasn't planning on living in this city for long term.
Getting a van is going to be another $$$$ I need to spend compared to just a sedan that I already have, and way less inconspicuous. You blend in better and get hassled less with a sedan. Sleeping in it is fine for me (and being hidden away even if someone peeks into my windows). It's the bathroom situation that's a PITA but I've dealt with it before.
In 12 years I will have my half million $ 2000sqft three story townhome paid off. Been very low expenses.
In 12 years you will have a sedan and nowhere to shit in the middle of the night. You want to be homeless in a big city. Good luck with that.
motherfucker who said I never owned a home before?
>keeps you stuck in a place and you're responsible for a bunch of other bullshit that comes with home ownership
So much this. You can't pick up your house and move it if you decide you want to be somewhere else. And you have to mow the lawn.
There's also HOA fees especially in decent neighborhoods, upkeep, property taxes especially in good neighborhoods that are safe enough for raising families, what else?
I thought of buying a small plot of land for a homestead and have a mobile home on it or moving to a trailer park but I don't know shit about stuff like that, and they're pretty far from the city limits where I have school.
>I thought of buying a small plot of land for a homestead and have a mobile home on it
I've looked into this and there are certain things you need to do to qualify it as a permanent residence and be allowed to live there, but it's a decent option. My grandfather lived that way for damn near 20 years. Once you're out of school you'll have so many more options. How long do you have left?
>Once you're out of school you'll have so many more options. How long do you have left?
I already have a college degree in computer science that I am not using and have no interest in going into tech honestly, I only got it because I was hoping to commission back into the military someday. I have no college debt. I am currently in school to study pilates as a form of physical therapy because I wanted to make it accessible to disabled vets at the local VA. I don't get my certification until December. I had to pay out of pocket for it as the GI bill doesn't cover it and I don't get BAH/stipend either. I thought of enrolling in college full time so I can fuck off with the stipend which would be like 2k/month while also working on my pilates certificate. Maybe work on a master's or something.
I saved, invested, and gambled during my active duty days and cobbled up like 200k in savings which shot up to 400k at one point.
I don't regret living where I am at 3k/month for over a year, but I am itching to feel free and not so weighed down by shit, and using the money I save on some other things including investing so I can spend without worry all over again one day if I want to.
It's still processing.
>Also applies to you car situation since you can get permanent """"disabled""""" veteran plates that you never have to renew the registration on.
Oh yeah? Fuck yeah!
You're so close. Get through school and then you're home free. Literally.
Right. We'll see what rating I get.
I wouldn't even know where to start with getting a remote job. I have a degree but a lot of remote jobs are full time and require more shit to qualify, like years of experience. Maybe I should get a remote job in something unrelated but can't think of anything.
> If you do get rated above %10 (iirc) you can actually get an extra 12 month extension on it via voc rehab. thats what i did and it covered my masters. milk your bennies for every little fuckin' thing dude.
So I should wait until my disability waiting to start using my GI bill?
if you get at least %50, thats $1300 bones a month. if you can somehow weasle your way into some SSDI that will put you above $2k and at that point you could easily just fuck off to SEA for the rest of your life drinking and banging jungle women. i know a ton of my old military buddies who ended up doing that.
i know you said you don't want to man, but with a CS degree and veteran status you can easily get a remote gig where you are putting in less than 20 hours a week. selling all my shit and going fully remote has been tremendously fulfilling for me even though i don't really care for the field i'm in. being able to roam wherever the fuck i want and not worry about a paycheck is liberating, and from one vet to another, i'd recommend it. it simulates that transient lifestyle the mil engrained in me.
also, don't let a single month of GI Bill go to waste. If you do get rated above %10 (iirc) you can actually get an extra 12 month extension on it via voc rehab. thats what i did and it covered my masters. milk your bennies for every little fuckin' thing dude.
Did you try getting rated by the VA? in certain states if you are above %40 rating you get a deep break on property taxes? Also applies to you car situation since you can get permanent """"disabled""""" veteran plates that you never have to renew the registration on.
You don't deserve anything you have in life. I wish you calamity and misfortune.
i can't believe you changed your whole brain structure like that just to serve the interests of a bunch of lizards in suits sniffing coke in the capitol bathrooms. i genuinely feel sorry for you. you are a crazy person and you have to unlearn some shit to go on in life regardless of whether you go live in your car or decide to become a mercenary in the south american jungle, if i thought everyone was so beneath me i would kill myself because everyone would annoy me too much
You could get a CDL, ditch the apartment and become a long-haul trucker and basically get paid to live out of your truck and see the country. The pay is decent, most of which you can save outright since you won't need to pay for housing or transportation. The first year is the toughest, it gets progressively easier after. I recommend doing food-grade liquid-bulk, which has a much comfier pace (deliveries mostly occur during business hours), more professional and respectful clients, and relative to other sectors, a lot more downtime you can take advantage of to enjoy the locations you visit. Just putting it out there.
I wouldn't want to be a trucker, it's not my thing and if I did it, it would be just to make a living. I could be doing other stuff with my life. I am doing school so I can't do trucking right now.
Truckers also have their own bullshit going on that's not worth it for me. They're not as free as you think they are.
Oh, that's cool. If you already have an idea that you wouldn't enjoy it, then I agree, it wouldn't be for you. It was just an idea. Cheers and best of luck to you!
if you were in the military its totally normal. when i came back to the civilian world i seriously contemplated being homeless just for the simplicity. once you spend 6 months eating food out of a bag and sleeping in a hole all our modern conveinences seem trivial and stupid. I hated having stuff too, i chucked it all and pared down to two duffle bags and a laptop bag as soon as i got a fully remote position. best decision i ever made.
Anon, how well do you do being naked?
If you're living in your car you probably aren't naked that much...
I slept almost naked in my car