Despite how many claim it is obvious and self evident, I have yet to see proof of a creator

As much as I would like to confidently hold to a religion and the belief of a creator, I have always been a skeptic and every argument, proof, and reasoning that I have seen has been illogical, relies on the viewer holding axioms that have no reason to be held, uses circular logic, or, at most, highlight a very real area of discussion but ultimately fails to answer why the answer must be god

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >I know LITERALLY nothing about genetics
      >so I will make a .webm about human-chimpanzee genetics

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        no argument

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It's a direct rebuttal when the girl making the script couldn't bother googling "mutation".
          Are you the same, or are you different?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            less dna is shared with apes than with any other animal

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Uh huh

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            i accept your surrender

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Tell me more about it

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            right so you will keep replying smugly without having any arguments whatsoever why exactly

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Really? Go on

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            there, i accept your surrender

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it's indistinguishable from it not existing at best, it goes from not needing one to it being self contradictory at worst.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I see many claiming that, if there is no god, then how come there are things such as truths, morals, good, and beauty, and what these arguments fail to address is explaining why I should accept those in the first place. Prove to me that these are independent from human experience, how they are just as real as the laws of physics and aren't evolutionary developments

    What is even funnier is when people argue that, if there is no god, then morality does not exist and everything is permissible. Not wanting something to be true is irrelevant as to whether it is true or not. As far as we know, there seems to be no actual proof of morals as theists like to describe. Of course, there are behaviors that have been instilled in us that have can be attributed to morality, but these are shared across species and often social species. These behaviors were conducive to cooperation and by proxy, reproduction.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    U r not looking hard enough
    The Bible says god is obvious and loves us all he wants to grant you eternal salvation but you have to open your hear up and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as king and savior only a fricking c**t idiot retatd like you could not see the ng obvious God dammit you atheist are so fricking stupid le fedora ooo poo poo your life isn't that hard you fricking communist liberal fricking snowflake I bet you don't even have a job you are unhappy I can tell morone frick fuuck c**t stop being a depressed gayggot frick.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    85 iq post
    is the facsination of monkeys in atheism a israeli humiliation ritual?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I am agnostic

      Apes are fascinating because they are remarkably similar to humans on multiple aspects and we find things we often attribute to humans, like jealousy, fairness, laughter, joy, love, terror, and war, in them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You christicuck are so ignorant of your own logical fallacies you guys follow a sill six thousand year old desert religion and epicurean hasn't ever been disprooved so frickzing stop being a ducking homosexual israelite worshiping slave you fricking idiots never ducking learn fukcing c**t your just coping for death you ducking death cult frick c**t homosexual frick frick frick fuuuuiiiick ever fixck idiots illogical clowns frick

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ive had enough epiphanies to know the truth, just think harder and youll have them too (no i have not documented any of them)

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "The creator" terrorizes me literally every single day over the pettiest things imaginable like what snacks I eat or even think about eating, what video games I play, what I think or fantasize about, what shows I watch, etc. While terrorizing me over these things he will do everything he can to make it clear that it's him doing it, reading my thoughts back to me and threatening me over them, referencing things that happen in my life on the internet immediately after they happen, terrorizing me for what I do in video games, trying to justify the behaviour of people who commit acts of aggression against me in real life either before or after it happens, and threatening me on behalf of other people, etc. Then after the fact, often on the exact same day where he does these things he will make these moronic threads saying things like "god doesn't exist" or trying to deny responsibility for his actions, after doing everything he can to make sure I know he's real, he thinks denying the evil things he does somehow justifies them. He's a moronic piece of shit.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There is order. For order to come out, order must be built in.
    Also, the contingency argument is competely valid.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The contingency argument fails to explain why god, as in a conscious creator, is the only conclusion as opposed to an eternal universe or a universe that came from nothing

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >as opposed to an eternal universe
        It is not opposed. The argument works for eternal universes too. Most sources that make the argument point this out explicitly afaik.
        >universe that came from nothing
        Nothing produces something?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Nothing produces something?
          Every argument that touches on the subject of the first cause in respect to causality paradoxically refutes causality by insisting the requirement of a break in causality, a necessary instance in which causality did not apply, like an uncreated god.

          By showing that there has to be a necessary break in causality, causality becomes non-absolute and arguments for reality coming from nothing are not off the table

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >refutes causality
            It refutes that the property is ontologically universal, yes. It doesn't prove that anything goes.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Keep adding arguments, this approach is called the minimal argument for the resu- I mean proof for god

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