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>insanely consistent discography with no bad albums (or songs)
>every album sounds different than the last
>pioneered the entire genre
>RIFFS
Yup, I'm thinking Death is the greatest metal band of all time.
I’m not saying your wrong but have you considered
>Trouble
>obscure shit that nobody likes or gives a shit about that had no influence on any other artists is the “best”
It’s legitimately brazen when people say this. The best black metal band is Mayhem, because it has to be Mayhem. It could ONLY be Mayhem.
Trouble isn’t a black metal band, not very obscure either, and are extremely influential.
>this African thinks Trouble is a black metal band.
I was responding specifically to the example of a guy who posted a black metal band. I had never heard Trouble and my blind guess was that they sound like Black Sabbath or Pentagram
Retard
They sound like Trouble and the fact that you’ve not heard of them means that you haven’t been around Metal long enough to weigh in a GOAT discussion, because they are doom metal 101.
Popularity, slaes, and influence have no actual bearing on who the best artists of a genre are and this is something that's realized after the fact.
>”hurr durr there’s no such thing as good or bad art, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, chocolate ice cream and diarrhea taste equally good, I literally CANNOT tell the difference!!!”
Shut the fuck up you boring, relativist homosexual. Your gay contrarian philosophy isn’t shocking, interesting or profound
You are literally posting in a thread saying a certain band is “the best”, not OP’s personal favourite, but the “BEST”, meaning this is about objective musical merit
Yes, the purpose of music is to sound good. Yes, lots of people involuntarily loving the sound of your music does mean it is objectively good
No, this does not mean watered down mainstream pop like Justin Bieber is the objectively best music, but yes, it does mean that Justin Bieber is objectively the best watered down mainstream pop music
Stop being a tedious homosexual and wasting people’s time by pretending to believe this stupid shit
>No, this does not mean watered down mainstream pop like Justin Bieber is the objectively best music, but yes, it does mean that Justin Bieber is objectively the best watered down mainstream pop music
I would make a distinction there, both "Baby" and "What Do You Mean" were big hits, but the second one was imo a good piece of pop music, while Baby was just very bad.
The kid had a song called “you should
Go and fuck Yourself”
He’s ok by me.
these playwright paragraphs are based. are you Shakespeare?
What a load of verbose pseudo intellectual factually incorrect horseshit. Go back to your Kpoop containment thread.
>Band that ripped off everything from everyone else has to be the best Black Metal band ever
If Mayhem never existed then Black Metal could feasibly still be a thing. If Venom, Sodom or Sarcofago didn't exist then it wouldn't. Darkthrone brutally mogged them anyway.
did you drift in from a parallel universe where Trouble is Saint Vitus
>Insanely consistent discography with no bad albums or song
>Every Album sounds EXACTLY THE SAME as the last.
>Epitomizes one specific sub genre
>Riff!
Yup, I’m thinking Bolt Thrower is the greatest war oriented death metal band of all time!
>band
You mean Chuck Schuldiner & "friends"?
Fvlse
Great and legendary band, but it can’t be the best because it’s prog/tech
Instrument wanking and doing weird odd timings purely for the sake of it is inherently a-musical. The point of music is the sonic listening experience first, not showing what you can do technique wise, or doing something unusual because the concept of it is “interesting” on an intellectual level
Probably the only prog band in history that has made entirely musical choices and done no forced instrumental wanking whatsoever is Tool. Every single note they play serves the song in a way that is intuitive and followable
High Tier Bait.
Not arguments, therefore you forfeit.
Also I don’t listen to Tool, I just recognise they are objectively the only 100% musically-intentioned prog band. They never try to do any gratuitous wanking or do forced, unconventional-sounding shit just for the sake of it
perfectly executed and described, well done
>Tool
kek
Westerners have been composing very hard pieces that only virtuosos can play for half a millenium, there is nothing "prog" about super hard pieces
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Toolfags need to fucking hang. Every single note they play serves to induce a bowel movement.
it's still metal innit? so no one cares, it's all the same anyway about that wank
>insanely consistent discography with no bad albums (or songs)
>every album sounds different than the last
>pioneered the entire genre
>RIFFS
Yup, I'm thinking Black Sabbath up to Sabotage is the greatest metal band of all time.
They are from my city and I have met Chuck’s dad
THE GUY'S NAME IS CHUCK
DEATH IS LITERALLY SNEED AND FEED
FORMERLY KNOWN AS CHUCK'S
since Chuck OD'd i think
Chuck did not OD. He died of a brain tumor.
pneumonia
>no bad albums
except everything before Human if a bit meh and basic thrash
the entire genre
That's a stretch.
>every album sounds different than the last
no it doesn't
Yeah they actually do. Have you heard them? Chuck grew and explored immensely in a short time.
ok i'm new to metal but reading this thread I decided to listen to the following albums
Death - Symbolic
Trouble - Psalm 9
Sodom - Agent Orange
is this a good start?
Yes it’s an incredible start also add a Bolt Thrower album in there (I like the 4th Crusade but there are no bad choices)
>new to metal
death metal shouldnt be one of the first subgenres to listen, but the one of the last. it's fairly common to people listen to metal and never properly touch death or black metal because it's simply not for them.
let him do what he wants homosexual. Not everybody has to go through your starter pack.
come on, don't tell me you never knew that one person who says metal is bad because the exposure he had was with some stereotypical black metal band.
Then fuck em. I don’t need more prog fags and corset-core trannies in the scene.
Let em try the harsh shit and if they stay they earned it.
Death aws only cool with John Hand! He was the man behind Death!