Dead end


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My life is kinda deadlocked and I can't make any moves.

I'm 35 years old and I only have a trade in electronics. No job experience, and I can't get any jobs I apply for. Welfare center is demanding that I get off the welfare tit soon. But I can't!
And it's not just that I can't get a job. I don't actually have any interest towards assembling electronics in some dark factory. Even if I got my first job, I'd hate it with a passion.

My social life? No friends, family, or gf. Haven't met people in years. I have no personal goals, aspirations or ambitions. Why would I? If you live in isolation, you don't like stuff unless you're some autist who enjoys tinkering alone. I basically hate my unemployed life, but would definitely hate my employed life as well. I don't see a solution, and being middle-aged doesn't help.
It's like, there simply wasn't a place for me in this wide world.

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also, I have no money and I have 15k in debt.
    I'm also being evicted from my rental apartment soon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      sounds like me, except a trade and your own apartment

      so, the wisest move would be to get any job and ride it out and think about it as temporary for the time being, you have the bare minimums to qualify for anything, spice up and lie on your resume if you have to or whatever desperate measures you have to qualify into their bare minimum qualifications. because having money and not being homeless beats the opposite after all and things will only get progressively worse than better by not doing so.

      can you REALLY not get a job or are you just larping in all actuality? because most can if they tried but they are just not even trying at all

      so eh

      >tldr
      get a job to get money because otherwise things will be even worse

      also how the fuck are you getting evicted, are you not paying your bills?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >can you REALLY not get a job or are you just larping in all actuality? because most can if they tried but they are just not even trying at all

        In IT my area only has high level positions and naturally I cant get them. I haven't tried calling warehouses or construction sites for the simple reason that I'd kill myself after 5 hours of mindless crate lifting. You underestimate how deteriorated I am at 35. My mind is ruined, and I feel exhausted all the time. The cause is inceldom, plain and simple. The cause of my unemployment is inceldom. It all boils down to not having a social life. I have this remarkable theory that being interested in careers and jobs boils down to having friends. If you don't have friends, you don't see why anyone would get a career. A career is all about finding a place in human society and if you've been excluded from said society, then, this is the result.
        Look at Ted Kaczynski. He was willing to throw away everyone's dream career. Why? Because without mental connections with other people, everything is meaningless. And I mean everything. Except for survival I guess.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          repetitive work sucks and is suicide inducing, but as long as there is some variance in it, it becomes doable, even more so if you actually get paid for it even so you have a reason to be there. I've been forced to do work training working full time for nothing other than the same wellfare benefits, literally suicide inducing

          and why dont you have a social life and why no family, have you abandoned all or what exactly

          you either suck the cock right now and get a shitty job or shit will get worse and THEN you can get a shitty job

          or try to claim insanity or get put on sick leave or something, is that even a possibility in your country?

          >also how the fuck are you getting evicted, are you not paying your bills?

          My apartment is too expensive and the government wont pay the rent anymore.
          But I cant live in some hellhole. If I have to listen to neighbors fucking and their dogs barking, I'll kys within a week.

          last time I checked wellfare dont have a fucking time limit on how long you can be broke, but start to demand you do certain things atleast
          and they have and upper limit how much they can pay, but even if you are above, you can pay the extra yourself and have less to live on
          but then im questioning why your apartment costs so fucking much

          yeah everything is shit and you want shit to become even more shit before you do anything?
          either you see where things are heading and be proactive or you gonna end up shittier and having to do even worse shit to get back to status quo
          or kys

          so do something or just die pretty much

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and why dont you have a social life and why no family, have you abandoned all or what exactly

            My friends got married and dumped me on the spot. I cant find new friends at 35. Going out hasnt helped at all. It's hard to explain if you havent experienced it. But I, like, go to a hobby group and it's just 3-5 people and none of them become my friend. Rinse and repeat. Online nobody even fucking answers to my dm's. Been on a dating app for 6 months, no matches. It's like the rest of the world doesnt exist.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Let's get this off the bat.

          Loneliness will LITERALLY murder you slowly.

          Every statistic proves it. Your heart will literally beat weaker and weaker over time. So if you've resolved you're gonna always be alone, then for the purposes of sparing your suffering, you should unironically end it ASAP.

          But you are not truly alone, otherwise why would you ask for help on an anonymous imageboard? You like your "remarkable" theories , and your ideas, and you believe yourself to be a deep-thinking person, with years of experience.

          You are like a philosopher. Philosophers sit inside and ruminate all the time. But they are always miserable. Nietzsche had a mental breakdown when he saw a horse being beaten. Schopenhauer was literally an incel, he hated women.

          Remove this image from your mind immediately. You are a theorist, but a bad one, because you yourself don't apply anything toward your theories, you are not a scientist and you are not willing to have your beliefs challenged.

          You mask this very effectively with "there's no point, I'm 35 and lost" in the hopes that, what, some femanon will read it and decide she wants to fix your life?

          This is what you need. A job. Stop complaining that it's ultimately fruitless. How the fuck would you know if you've never had one? Seriously you fucking egomaniac. Try one. Anything. Do repetitive shit and get depressed like you want to. You'll still have fucking money to live your own life independent from friends. You're doing it for your LONG TERM BENEFIT, not your SHORT TERM MENTAL HEALTH. So you can have money and buy nice clothes and love yourself even more.

          Once you get passed this stage, then you will learn you cannot depend on welfare anymore, the government is not your mommy and daddy. Maybe you'll never learn this until a girl gets close to you, then drops you. Then you'll probably blame yourself for years and years until you're 45 and suicidal.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can support the idea of getting into a job and possibly getting stability, but
            >have money and buy nice clothes and love yourself even more
            is totally wrong. What purpose do nice clothes serve if nobody finds you appealing? What even are nice clothes? And if you have low self-confidence and a lot of animosity to yourself, suffering in some job ain't gonna make you suddenly feel better. I have had many people tell me the reason for my unhappiness is because I have it too good and need to suffer more; my depression is because I have a good job and can finance stuff. According to them, it placates you and makes it so you feel like you got stuff without earning it. And because of your self-loathing, you could never earn it.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              stop nitpicking details
              job=money=dopamine
              job=rise in dominance hierarchy=serotonin
              =feel better=life better=everything better
              job+money = minimum to qualify to do adult things

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >dopamine
                Not when you don't have anything to enjoy with that money anon. If you are literally slaving away to finance a place to live, you don't feel anything positive.
                >rise in dominance hierarchy
                Implying having a job makes you seen as any greater of a person or that you could dominate someone any more. We aren't part of their society, trying to get a job won't ingrain us any more.
                >feel better
                I have a job and I feel suicidal on a daily basis. A job can potentially help, it provides stability and the means to attain objects when you have clear goals. But if you don't even know what you desire and are aimlessly wandering through life, a job is just more suffering. I am not some random NEET, I speak from experience.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Not when you don't have anything to enjoy
                yeah literally even then, sorry but no, you havent even been dead ass poor if you say otherwise (and depressed at the same time due to said reasons)
                >Implying having a job
                yeah it will improve your own mental state by having money, literally
                >I have a job and I feel suicidal on a daily basis.
                well if you arent op then whos asking, you have other issues at hand
                money and a job WILL improve ops life, you are arguing that him going homeless is the better option
                pick the better of worse options

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >getting a job = your life goes better
                How old even are you? Have you ever worked a minimum wage job once?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >wah wah wah why should i bother
              >What even are nice clothes?

              This should be an awakening for you, you narcissistic piece of trash. You don't even fucking know what nice clothes are but you think you can predict every outcome by wearing them.

              You are literally mindfucking yourself, like in hentai, every day, every single day, to be a failure.

              Honestly at this point you should just do some stacy shit and listen to pop music, write "I love myself" everywhere in highlighter colors, talk to yourself in the mirror and tell yourself how beautiful you are. Because you are just a sad sack of shit with the emotional capability of a 13 year old girl but you think you're entitled with the brain of a fucking fortune teller. Fuck you dude.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Loneliness will LITERALLY murder you slowly.

            I think it's already doing it.
            My hairloss is suddenly very aggressive. I age in dog years. My stomach hurts. Wounds don't heal like they should.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >also how the fuck are you getting evicted, are you not paying your bills?

        My apartment is too expensive and the government wont pay the rent anymore.
        But I cant live in some hellhole. If I have to listen to neighbors fucking and their dogs barking, I'll kys within a week.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >and I only have a trade in electronics.
    What trade?

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I made a pic that depicts what I'm going through.

    I blame society.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That diagram doesn't really make sense as a circle. Are you really dropping out of uni over and over again?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That diagram doesn't really make sense as a circle. Are you really dropping out of uni over and over again?

      Fixed it a lil bit. Yeah, I've started a new major 9 times.
      At 35, the zoomers dont even talk to you.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It is a lot of irony. To get friends you need to get hobbies so you can have shared interests. But depression makes it so you can't enjoy anything to begin with. You try to get involved in some random hobby, but it just gets tiresome and you have no real passion for being there.

        Living requires you work to sustain yourself, yet the problem is that without some sort of reward there is little rationale to working. If I don't enjoy my free time, what is the point of even doing a job?

        Life really sucks. There is little purpose to it outside of achieving happiness, yet we can't even do that.

        Talking to zoomers also doesn't really help anon. You end up feeling horribly alone because they are all similar to each other while you are entirely different from them. They hold nostalgia for things that feel super recent to you. They all connect better with each other and eventually will realize you aren't worth devoting much time to.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Excellent post. This sums up everything I've felt for the past 5 years.
          And yeah talking to zoomers is pointless when you're a balding 30yo virgin. Even if they talk to you, it doesnt feel meaningful. There's no real connection. But ironically you cant connect with your peers either. Every 30-year-old is married

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, that is exactly it. It is hard to even find many a 30 year old online given that most of them devote themselves to their love lives. So it ends up with you getting closer and closer to being double the age of everyone else in a community and you aren't even sure where to talk to people that might know what the hell you are talking about.

            Honestly though I would argue that it would go even worse than zoomers or married people. The fact we are depressive individuals with literally no interests, who would find anything anyone else tried to get us into unappealing, means even if you found the ideal person to talk to there is literally nothing you can even say to them.

            Seriously, our lives don't change day to day. We have no interesting anecdotes, our lives have been the exact same for years. It goes even worse than age groups, we have nothing to even value as friends. And yet, given we can't find that thing we can even find tolerable, how do we even go about changing it outside of "keep trying"?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        literally me minus the hobby groups, dont really care
        plus minus the school, I have had problems or uncertainty of getting schoolbux aka funding for going back so havent, If I did I would have went back and actually completed something this time to actually you know get a job, because you need some sort of degree and papers and you pretty much are hired before you finish school, applying for jobs when you havent finished anything or have any degree is actual hell
        pretty uncanny if i might say so

        >and why dont you have a social life and why no family, have you abandoned all or what exactly

        My friends got married and dumped me on the spot. I cant find new friends at 35. Going out hasnt helped at all. It's hard to explain if you havent experienced it. But I, like, go to a hobby group and it's just 3-5 people and none of them become my friend. Rinse and repeat. Online nobody even fucking answers to my dm's. Been on a dating app for 6 months, no matches. It's like the rest of the world doesnt exist.

        >no job
        >talking about social life, friends, gf
        if you havent noticed your life quality and everything wrong about it stems from not having MONEY aka a JOB
        you literally cant do anything or improve anything without money, and you are worried about these things? you arent even qualified to start thinking about those things before you get your adult life in order
        it literally is not more complicated than that

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Money isn't everything anon. You can achieve a sense of stability, but if you don't enjoy anything it can all feel entirely meaningless. Why suffer on a daily basis if the time you aren't suffering is just as miserable?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not saying it is everything but if you don't have any money, no job and expect to be a functioning adult when you have one foot on the street already you have to realize you aren't even qualified to play
            >I have no money
            >my life is shit
            well no shit, it's not rocket science

            after the basics are done then we can discuss how shit everything else is

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you literally cant do anything or improve anything without money, and you are worried about these things? you arent even qualified to start thinking about those things before you get your adult life in order

          I'll never get a decent / bearable job in this life so I dont really even consider it an option.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think anon is saying to just suck it up and get any job. It ain't so much about it being bearable as much as it being something that allows you to springboard to the other goals.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            well then take the neetbux pill and try to get perma disability instead of being on wellfare
            but a mans worth is literally derived from the value he can create, no job, no money, obviously you feel like shit
            atleast accept the truth why shit is shit instead of coping in non reality

            Let's get this off the bat.

            Loneliness will LITERALLY murder you slowly.

            Every statistic proves it. Your heart will literally beat weaker and weaker over time. So if you've resolved you're gonna always be alone, then for the purposes of sparing your suffering, you should unironically end it ASAP.

            But you are not truly alone, otherwise why would you ask for help on an anonymous imageboard? You like your "remarkable" theories , and your ideas, and you believe yourself to be a deep-thinking person, with years of experience.

            You are like a philosopher. Philosophers sit inside and ruminate all the time. But they are always miserable. Nietzsche had a mental breakdown when he saw a horse being beaten. Schopenhauer was literally an incel, he hated women.

            Remove this image from your mind immediately. You are a theorist, but a bad one, because you yourself don't apply anything toward your theories, you are not a scientist and you are not willing to have your beliefs challenged.

            You mask this very effectively with "there's no point, I'm 35 and lost" in the hopes that, what, some femanon will read it and decide she wants to fix your life?

            This is what you need. A job. Stop complaining that it's ultimately fruitless. How the fuck would you know if you've never had one? Seriously you fucking egomaniac. Try one. Anything. Do repetitive shit and get depressed like you want to. You'll still have fucking money to live your own life independent from friends. You're doing it for your LONG TERM BENEFIT, not your SHORT TERM MENTAL HEALTH. So you can have money and buy nice clothes and love yourself even more.

            Once you get passed this stage, then you will learn you cannot depend on welfare anymore, the government is not your mommy and daddy. Maybe you'll never learn this until a girl gets close to you, then drops you. Then you'll probably blame yourself for years and years until you're 45 and suicidal.

            I've literally never been more depressed as when I had 0 money, like literally talking 0 in bank 0 irl, for several months too
            money is literal dopamine, and will fix the most basic problems
            like I said there is no point in complaining when you dont even have the basics to qualify to try to begin with

            OP are you the same guy who posted about wanting to get a japanese tradwife despite balding?

            lmao

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP are you the same guy who posted about wanting to get a japanese tradwife despite balding?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OP are you the same guy who posted about wanting to get a japanese tradwife despite balding?

      Yes.
      I bet you've realized that I have issues.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tbh I think you're being too harsh on yourself. Idk where you live but could you try talking to a doctor? Your feelings and thoughts sound similar to my brother's, and he was diagnosed with depression. He takes antidepressants now and he is much happier.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          pills are not gonna stop op from getting evicted and having no money
          a job will

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The biggest issue is time. Even when you talk to a doctor, it takes a lot of time to find the right medication, especially if you are a type heavily resistant to antidepressants. Add the fact that many of them hold some pretty severe side-effects, it ain't an easy route sadly.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I agree it's not an easy route, but it's better than doing nothing.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/xpnodCT.jpg

        My life is kinda deadlocked and I can't make any moves.

        I'm 35 years old and I only have a trade in electronics. No job experience, and I can't get any jobs I apply for. Welfare center is demanding that I get off the welfare tit soon. But I can't!
        And it's not just that I can't get a job. I don't actually have any interest towards assembling electronics in some dark factory. Even if I got my first job, I'd hate it with a passion.

        My social life? No friends, family, or gf. Haven't met people in years. I have no personal goals, aspirations or ambitions. Why would I? If you live in isolation, you don't like stuff unless you're some autist who enjoys tinkering alone. I basically hate my unemployed life, but would definitely hate my employed life as well. I don't see a solution, and being middle-aged doesn't help.
        It's like, there simply wasn't a place for me in this wide world.

        Why aren't you saving up money for a Japan trip?
        I worked for a year at a call center to spend a month in Japan.
        I now work from home at a different call center and I'm now saving for another Japan trip.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It feels crazy when you've just sat at home watching movies and anime for the past 12 years.

    People think this is my choice. It isn't. I go out 3 times a day and gain zero friends.
    Nobody wants to be my friend. I'm a bald 30yo guy.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >anime and movies
      Find an online community that likes those movies and anime?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I tried to join one punch man subreddit and I got instantly banned because their bots thought I was a bot
        Realized the modern internet is not for me and gave up

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Possibly the answer is not reddit. That site is for group-think and nothing good can come of it. How about discord channels?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but Anon anime community is full of underage users what kind of community would accept and trust a 30 yo man. At best eventually a retro anime one but certainly not your average manga exposition.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Even if you find a similar interest, your thought processes are just too different. Hell, people that like what you like might like it for wholly different reasons.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Truest robot thread in the catalog right now, and it's on its way to page 11 just like that. Le sigh, I miss the old days man, I miss hanging around people with real problems (as unsolvable as they are), I miss not feeling alone in the struggle.

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