In the last week there was discussions on data hoarding. I've never heard of it before that and the more I think of it the more I like it. What information are you collecting for future generations?
Data Hoarding: the modern Library of Alexandria
In the last week there was discussions on data hoarding. I've never heard of it before that and the more I think of it the more I like it. What information are you collecting for future generations?
anything that they will delete in the future
4 million books collection (~1,3TB, raw text):
https://www.offlineos.com/
there should be wikipedia 2014 version offline backup package (without images) somewhere, maybe some anon has a link.
HTTrack website copier -software to backup whole websites
thats what comes to mind concerning useful data.
How long does the magnetization last on an HDD? I'm worried most everything will still get wiped out from a solar flare or nuke war (EMP). I have been thinking about burning some CD's becuase they are still somewhat physical and could theoretically be read thousands of years in the future if the foil layer is well preserved. (Does anyone know more about this?) Have also thought it might be cool to grab a black box flight recorder off ebay to write data to. Its basically just scratches in a stainless steel drum. Should last a while right?
Anyway I only currently have saved alot of classic films. Though I am highly interested in 's project and will try to mirror it or whatever when I can find the time to figure it out.
CDs that you burn yourself last much worse than a hard drive. I've had CDs become unreadable after only a few years. As for an EMP or flare, those are essentially intense radio waves. They affect things that are connected to the grid which functions as an antenna. Keep your hard drive in a box, and only turn it on to read data, and it should last many years.
What are you on about zoomer? You must have never handled a CD before. Of course it gets fucked up after a few years if it gets scratched but otherwise it shouldn't degrade at all. The data is composed of physical dots and dashes burned into the foil. (picrel) The only failure mode I can fathom is if the plastic the foil layer is stuck to degrades over time.
Wrong. So wrong. They degrade over time even when kept in a climate controlled and dark environment. Look up Disc Rot, its not a meme.
I have hundreds of CDs and DVDs and maybe 1% were not playable after 30 years.
Disc rot is GREATLY exaggerated by minimalist zoomers. Most discs won't start corroding until after you're dead. The discs that did suffer from "disc rot" were either kept in a terrible environment or just had some manufacturing issues (that's why specific discs tend to be more prone to it than others, since they were manufactured with a shitty process).
But if you're expecting a CD to last 300 years, it's definitely not going to.
israeliteel boxes for CDs were almost a perfect storage solution. Remember, CD were aluminum or 24k gold discs encased in polycarbonate plastic engraved with a laser with ones and zeros with physical pits representing ones and zeros in 16 bit pulses. They were not like CDR discs which used a lithographic process. Theoretically a gold CD could last thousands of years. But without the codec to decode them they are unreadable, that is their Achilles heel. Once a CODEC is lost with today's tech is is almost impossible recover the data.
>once the codec is lost.
I don't understand that. Its a method of encryption that wasn't intended to obfuscate. Encoding. Decoding can be involved, but how can it be hard?
Once the method of decoding the data is lost, say three hundred years from now, how do you reconstruct it if you have the physical disc but no documentation? For centuries they could not read Egyptian Hieroglyphics until they found the key, the Rosetta Stone. The same thing applies to the example of Redbook encryption for CD's and other durable data storage. The medium survived but the means to read it is lost.
Its still not hard. Just involved. The main difference from general decryption is that if you know its a music file then you know it has to be understandable as music. You create a model of the human ear (inc. neurally) and play it the file until it hears something it understands. Its computationally intensive, but conceptually trivial. Its not hard.
Even the same AI principles you were given to make drawings should be able to do it for you if you set it up correctly and run it for long enough.
You don't understand, without the codec you can't play the file in the first place. It is not like a vinyl record that you can remove the noise using software. With digital it is all or nothing. Once you lose the CODEC there is no data to process.
Also these old recording from the 70s and 80s were never put on the internet to be "known" for reconstruction. They only exist on the original taps and the pressed record or CD.
If this were true then terrorists could simply retain niche, or have custom codecs, and have impenetrable communications. It is not.
It's hard to make the codecs, he is correct as far as I am aware
CODECS are easy to make but hard to reconstruct if the decoding part is lost to time.
I suppose that you could view the codec as an extremely large encryption key. It is always the same and the greatest difference is that it wasn't designed to deceive you. They were not trying to make it incomprehensible so as to not be understood by their enemies, rather they were trying to make an efficient storage and replay method.
Knowing this, and provided you understand what the data is, should make it far easier to decode. Its still involved. Which of course means expensive. Its just not hard.
I mean, why dont people make a codec that operates from an encryption key to store sensitive information? generate an entirely new filetype to store files kek
What do you do in twenty years when the codec is lost? How do you recover the data, encryption or not?
Store the key and the algorithm that creates the codec in a book
I am talking about archiving here, not spy codes that nobody will remember in 20 years.
Uncompressed PCM sound could probably be analyzed and brute forced. Lossy formats would be impossible.
I don’t know about nowadays but in early 2000s I would get archival medical cd-r when a business transaction closed. Last one I pulled was seven years old and was ok. I think they have some other type of metal fil in them that is better, but idk
I have many CDs from the late 80s and early 90s and none have such rot. Always stored in the house. Must be specific manufacturer mistakes
>What are you on about zoomer?
The "zoomer" is quite correct, though perhaps the speed of degradation he describes is unusually fast.
You have to be very sure about the materials your CD, DVD or BluRay is made of because it's quite possible for them to decay on the order of 5-10 years.
There are some disks which claim they are archival quality and will last, M-disks for example; however recently doubts have been raised about their quality control.
Well fuck. I stand corrected.
Yeah I guess maybe tape is the way to go. I know they still use it for CERN and other mass data archiving. Is there some kind of consumer grade way to do it?
tape degrades too. Stone, ceramic or cristal are future proof. All this tech and we still stone carving is the most cost efective method to preserve text
I wannna etch some memes into emerald tablets.
They can make big batches of synthetic emerald now they make it for phone screens and blackhawk helicopter windscreens.
it will probably be preserved pretty well
I think it all comes down to how much data you want to store. You can make a QR code made of giant concrete blocks than will last millennia but for only a couple kB of data.
https://www.mdisc.com/faq.html
You're talking about industrially made CDs where foil is printed from a physical master. CDs that you burn in a drive use a layer of dye that can go to shit.
>The popular thing in the old days was tape backups every night
My parents used to do this in their office in the 90s, I can just barely remember it.
TO this day the tape is the gold standard archival meme.
Have an LTO9 deck which is good for 45tb compressed.
WORM tapes are cool as well.
"Write Once Read Many"
There is some new tape technology on the horizon that increases the storage 10 fold. 500 tbs on a single tape is insane. Its a shame its so slow to read.
Unfortunately no, as mentioned look into disc rot. Already affecting the video game resale market since the old PS1 games are coming up on that age. Been debating about selling my video game collection since at some point it's going to fall to entropy.
>CDs that you burn yourself last much worse than a hard drive.
If you are worried about the shelf life of your backup media, tape may last longer than a hard drive or DVD. At least according to the people who sell tape backup systems.
The popular thing in the old days was tape backups every night, with three copies made and two being stored offsite.
Misinformation, high quality burned blurays last literal centuries, this is pilpul from a kike wanting you to store media on devices vulnerable to electromagnetic radiation
>high quality burned blurays last literal centuries
How would you know that ? Blu-rays have been around for less than 20 years.
Tests have been done and conclusions made, you are not required to trust them, but since BDR is an optical format that is not subject to the particular strains of most media storage, it is safe to assume these studies are correct
I have CDs I burned in middle school that still play and I'm 35.
Same, i have some from like 1995, i have floppies 3.5 inch that still work
Yeah last time I checked my floppies still worked, though the only thing I have to even check them with now is an old Powermac. Sadly I think the CD drive is dead finally.
Survival manuals and how-to books are also well worth their minimal storage footprint.
>he doesn't have a shed filled with hand-carved porn on cuneiform tablets
Ngmi through the carrington event, anon
Kek but I can draw my own porn if needed.
My hands are stained with ink and cum
They sell external usb floppy drives super cheap. Worked for me
I always forget those still exist, yeah I'll see about getting a cheap one just to have. I already had to get an external CD drive because the PC I got doesn't even have a bay for one, it's a nice machine but I don't appreciate the disrespect to physical media.
Sounds like you just discovered your post-collapse career anon!
Actually you guys just gave me an idea for a twist on this. USB dead drops are where people put those thumb drives in public places, like pic related.
The USB drives (CD/floppy) could also be embedded in this way, people connect their computer to the USB to power the drive. Grout in bricks/blocks would also be be wide enough to cut slits for people to add in a disc (might need to be lined with silicone or something to prevent scratching) so people could take a disc or leave a disk like people do with those public book boxes.
I've seen people leave discs in geo caches from time to time. I don't see it catching on with normies since most of them don't have the means to read them anymore. It would be cool if enough tech-saavy people cared to participate; it would be very cyberpunk.
The problem with a USB equivalent is the risk that someone places a malicious USB device that injects code (BadUSB) or outright fries your computer (USBKiller).
Basically forever, but only if the physical drive doesn't get damaged becoming inoperable or punctured by heads during use. Basically you have to upgrade and transfer data regularly, about every two years assuming the drive is used occasionally, if removed from computer I'd say 5 to 6 years, though it could be ten or even 20 under good conditions. Two drives, Two brands, same data, removed from computer when close to filled, thats the best way
No, I tried to recover files on a 20 year old hard drive in working condition all the files were corrupted beyond repair. Another drive with pictures that hadn't been powered on for over a decade had just corrupted headers, not all of them were fixable. A Drive needs to be powered on from time to time. If you let it sit there even under optimal conditions this degradation will happen.
If you are buying tons of storage drives you get to a point of being better off having a NAS, because if you plug too many hard drives into a PC at once you run the risk of the last disk you plugged in becoming corrupted when you eject it. Rule of thumb is not to go over 3 HDD, SSD don't have this problem, but with a NAS you can have as many drives as your system will fit and can add drives as you go. It can be powered on from time to time if not saving anymore and if one drive goes bad you replace it.
Its really a gamble, some disks work even after 20 years others fail after 2.
I remember one workplace I was at t here was an old disk drive that was rattling and not working well
They told me to put it in the freezer & a few days later they took it out and were able to successfully recover the data from it & it allowed the disk to spin correctly while in that cooled state
Would keeping a HDD in a cool place keep it working longer? I have no idea & I dont know if its dumb to ask
I'm sure someone has a good answer
This is for a disk drive though & not an SSD
m discs are said to last an eternity, you need a bluray drive, they can store 100gb of data. if you are concerned about longevity of hdds, just wipe the drive every 5 years or so and recopy all files onto it as they were, that will refresh the polarity of the medium.
if you want your data to survive beyond an apocalyptic event you should get into the chiseling. lol
Just make a Faraday cage. You can do it for like $30 using a trash can and lining it with aluminum foil. Put all the electronics you want inside. Or if you have money, build a proper Faraday cage in your garage and keep a whole desktop PC and generator rigged in there.
faraday cage doesn't affect magnetic fields only electric ones
so you still get raped by the sun?
nagger just get a broken microwave its a faraday cage
Buy magnetic tapes.
15tb? what is this sorcery?
how much is the recording device?
15k, lol https://www.alternate.ch/Backup-Laufwerke
Tape drives are crazy huge I bet 15TB is not even the max.
>I bet 15TB is not even the max
Max is 45 TB currently. LTO-9
only problem with tape is the slow i/o, its getting so cheap for hdds and ssds per tb, plus aws glacier storage has pricing down to 0.99/tb for long term backups
Yeah it is not meant for voidtools everything searches 24/7. Its purpose is you write something you might want to see a few months or years later. Like some specific filmed footage or something
>Its purpose is you write something you might want to see a few months or years later. Like some specific filmed footage or something
yes i am well aware, and the point is that still for long term storage there are getting to be better and cheaper options.
the real breakthrough is in encoding data in dna material, you can fit thousands of terabytes into the size of rice
>science.org/content/article/dna-could-store-all-worlds-data-one-room
what are the vulnerabilities of tape? do i have to consider certain storing conditions like temperature and humidity?
>do i have to consider certain storing conditions like temperature and humidity?
yes of course. if you want something that is designed to be retard proof, check out M-DISCs
Well that's it, M-DISC. How much does one 100GB unit cost and how much is the cheapest burner?
5 pack of discs around $50ish, then the burner/readers are a few hundred depending on speed and quality you buy
I'm retarded. Does this mean you can put about 45tb worth of data from downloaded books on one of these bad boys, or??
>15tb? what is this sorcery?
samsung just showed off 256tb ssds tb is the new gb
>tomshardware.com/news/samsung-announces-256tb-ssds-and-unveils-peta-byte-scale-pbssds
>what is this sorcery?
Tape drives have been around for a long time. Their primary issue is their atrocious seek times so they're used for archival purposes. Aside from their really high upfront equipment costs, it's a cheap way to archive data for archivists.
Regular folk are better off with rotating HDD or SSDs regularly and making sure they work.
The issue with magnetic tapes is the hardware that reads them. Eventually it gets phased out and new hardware doesn't read old tapes so you have to move to a new type of tape. Have that issue every few years at work and have to go through and copy tapes from backups so we can access data from 15 years ago because muh auditing.
>Have that issue every few years at work and have to go through and copy tapes from backups so we can access data from 15 years ago because muh auditing.
You can get cloud terabyte raid storage for under $1 a terabyte now if you really want to make sure your porn collection is safe
>handing over your precious Megabits to the literal computing israelite
>any year
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/ts3500-tape-library?topic=media-environmental-shipping-specifications-lto-tape-cartridges
Just use common sense and you will be fine with tapes
>handing over your precious Megabits to the literal computing israelite
to be fair its all comp'd, otherwise buy and rack your own hardware even then i am convinced they've broken all sha in real time if they want it
>costs more than hdd equivalent
>lasts only finite number of reads before tape snaps
>recovery rates for tape backups is something like 50%? in the real world
Just save it in "The Cloud", I'm told that lasts forever and is highly reliable.
>CD's
> could theoretically be read thousands of years in the future
No
CDs from the 80s are already going bad
Will the technology exist to read the data
I have almost a thousand CDs most from the 80s and 90s and they all play perfectly. I listen to them all the time.
This is objectively false, as a CD collector I have many pressed CDs from the 80s that still play as if they were brand new.
Professionally pressed CDs can last hundreds of years if stored in good conditions, it's CD+/-Rs that don't last.
Check and correct. My first CD is a Beethoven Quartet I purchased in 1983, I've kept it in the israeliteel box and it plays perfect in 2023. It sound better than many modern recording of the same music.
What about SAS? tape drives? Cold storage?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC
Interesting, thanks. Learned something. Although there has to be something with more memory available now, I suppose, because that's "just" a few gigabytes.
100 GB is the largest, that's pretty good
Write a 1 million page book on everythinf you've watched and seen.
I'm up to 109,000pgs on every false flag and the tricks of Zionism and israelites.
SSDs last much longer. Little more expensive but worth the cost for long term storage
you gotta remember to turn them on regularly though. If they sit in a drawer for years they might lose the data stored on an SSD. I have some 8TB external drives and I plug them in once every couple of months.
I have like 40gb of chinese cultivation novels
i will never be able to read all of this lmao
Wish we could hook up this 4 mil book collection into some LLaMA
>LLaMA
lm have google books so there is not much missing.
ROMs for old game consoles
Classic TV shows, movies, music
Old operating systems, software, and drivers
Yea I know, it's all consooomer entertainment
I've been meaning to stock up on literature, I'll try the link posted once I get ny 88TB hate machine online
I have cold data that has been sitting on HDDs for over a decade and I haven't had any problems with bitrot. All corruption I've experienced has happened in transit, not at rest. I'm not saying it can't happen, it's just not as big of an issue as ZFS nerds would have you believe.
Standard optical media can last decades if properly stored, M-Discs can supposedly last centuries. The physical space and $/GB make these options prohibitively expensive for storing massive amounts of data. I reserve media like these for things that cannot be replaced.
In my experience, tape has the poorest shelf life of all options. I've encountered offsite backups that were unreadable in as little as five years. They're slow and the drives are unreliable. With HDDs costing less than $0.01/GB, tapes just don't make sense anymore, even for enterprise users.
Tape lasts a very long time IF stored properly
>M-Discs
some tard on g told me they were fraud
The question is, How the fuck are you going to create energy by yourself if SHTF? Not to mention it would be impossible (to my knowledge) if is solar flare
You can hand crank a Victrola record player to hear music from a record. You can read a book made of paper and ink. You can perform a Beethoven sonata on a piaon from sheet music. You can paint a landscape using your eyes and paint brushes. You can watch a "movie" on a stage with actors.
computers are not going to go anywhere anytime soon, they are the dream machines fro the masses, same goes for the internet.
portable generators and solar panels exist anon.
you can also connect a treadmill or a stationary bike to a dynamo and power your own shit, fatass
Is there an offline Wikipedia with pictures/images?
Yes
you can make own backups of any website yourself, the one i have has just the thumbnail previews of images, depends on space you have available and the time you are wiiling to invest for the download.
We used to call that an encyclopedia, son
I have 23tb of Tv shows/Movies/songs, mainly non spozzed stuff.
Will download and add them to its own HDD
My plan is to have an intranet that is protected by solar flares and emp.
Stargate series.
future generations will debate whether daniel jackson was on gear
If he was, he got "ripped" off
Candid stash. Doubles as coom material and a historical documentary. In the future it could be like those 90s and early 2000s high-school videos people watch now on YouTube. Except there's a big ass jiggling in view.
Sentimental coomer. Congrats, you invented a new thing.
Sim0ly put, all forms of recording data have finite lifespans, even shit like carved srone tablets erode.
i don't hoard any data. as soon as i am done with a file i delete it. not my problem.
whats a good old encyclopedia set to archive?
Illustrated World encyclopedia is pretty gud, not that common but conservative perspective, Britannica is okay if pre 1980
Any Encyclopedia Britannica before WW2. Also save Gibbon - Decline and Fall. Modern takes on Rome are absolutely trash, Gibbon was based.
can be found on archive.org
For now
Drammatica
CollapseOS!
DVD's are definitely better than CD's, they have another layer of plastic over it unlike CD's. I wonder how long it would last in a controlled enviroment.
Government tried dvd before for huge data archive destroyed originals like idiots, turned out the coating was defective in five years whole archive was lost
>We accidentally destroyed the evidence of our crimes because we're stupid
Yeah right
Exactly
>Not printing out data in binary and storing your books in an airless chamber
Retard, you could hoard TBs of CP and nobody would know.
I burned thousands of CD's in the late 90's to mid 00's. While the quality media (kodak, sony, taiyo yuden) have held up, any of the shit tier media is flaking, cracking and showing clear visible signs of degradation. The mid tier discs generally look ok, but have read errors or just read very, very slowly because it has to be scanned & rescanned because of the damage.
YMMV
Burned CDs use a lithographic process, not physical like Redbook CD standard which etched aluminum or gold metal discs with pits.
What is the best external hard disk for simply backup of your files? The main property being that it lasts long and preserve the files.
Avoid western digital I can say that
Don't you mean seagate?
Just my experience....
this, had more seagate failures then western digital, toshiba is even worse
>data from 10 years ago
Yeah anon I used to hate Seagate too but now they're fine, WD is still okay
My drives died in power surge but i was able to restore seagate and Toshiba by switching boards on the drives but wd blocks that option with chips on their boards that are particular to each drive so I'm sticking with seagates for storage, wd for cheap space
what do you guys think about rugged lacie hdds?
if something happens to the port, you basically lost your data. The recovery in this case is complex and expensive
Never tried them, never geard if them, looks like ssd?
It'll protect your macos journaled data rot even when it falls off your rented desk because the thunderbolt port on your rented MacBook is whorishly loose.
Uh no. WD Red Pro is awesome and bulletproof.
in case you want to show off in front of females go for WD_Black, lmao, picrel
looks like a shiping container
https://www.heise.de/meinung/SSD-Ausfaelle-Western-Digital-verspielt-alles-Vertrauen-9352972.html
WD gets a bad wrap because they changed their cheap standard red drives to shingled magnetic recording without telling anyone. All the pro drives still use CMR.
Avoid odd number TB hard drives they fail more often, 3tb, 5tb, If you want cheap and good get the WD Blue 8tb 3.5 hard drive they are like 130 bucks. That's the best value, I've avoided seagate they make a 20 dollar cheaper 8tb, but all the reviews say it sucks.
That's a question that will get you all kinds of answers. Seagate has a history of shitty drives. But of course Western Digital created their fair share of turds over the years. Green label drives are shit and I still loathe them for being the cause of my data loss before I learned they were garbage. Personally am a fan of HGST drives.
Here's the thing you need to understand when it comes to digital storage though, two is one, and one is none. Also, RAID is not a backup.
For my truly important data, like digital copies of birth certificates, household item lists, and things of that nature, I have backups not only here but I also have one with a family member. That way if my house burns down I know I have copies of important things.
Mostly media like 99% of people in this hobby do. TV shows, movies, music, and shit. Also pictures, infographics, and books, but you don't need to be a dedicated datahoarder to store lots of books and pictures unless you're running some kind of massive repository or curating your own private extremely high def scans. Most of that kind of media is small. People like me become data hoarders saving video and music because video is fucking massive obviously, encoded or not and music also can get to be very large if lossless.
Generally speaking, external hard drives are all kind of shitty compared to bare drives kept in good conditions. So long as you stick to known brands like WD you're probably going to get the same quality. Most externals advertise themselves on speed more than reliability. If you want reliability, and physical durability there's shit like Lacie that some of my colleagues like. Orico also makes quality enclosures for bare drives. I see external drives as a hot backup of sorts. Nowadays for the layman, I recommend encrypting your shit and getting a cloud storage service. Even when the objective is to keep your own shit, having a stable backup somewhere until SHTF just ensures another avenue to keep your data safe.
But for anybody serious about datahoarding, your backup doesn't need to be the best quality/performance so long as you don't get garbage, anything will do. You want to be able to put as much funds as you can into your main store. Your main store of data should be redundant (not a backup!) and its data integrity secured. Because if your main data store becomes corrupted or degraded, chances are your backup will be useless now too.
Tbh was looking into downloading entire wiki myself in case the lights ever go out. I think it’s 60gb
>I think it’s 60gb
Only 60gb ? You can feed all that data into a ChatGPT and make yourself a personal Jarvis.
Video: How do Hard Disk Drives Work?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtdnatmVdIg
You should store a collection of the most important stuff on a pocket-sized SSD that you can always carry around if SHTF
Thanks anon this makes alot of sense. Any metal lesser than gold usually forms weird dendrites or oxides over time.
How the fuck do I get ahold of some golden CD-R's lol.
I mean how important is the data you want to preserve?
>Full romset of every video game system
>music
>Classic animes such as Dragon Ball and Yu Yu Hakusho
>Ebook library with various subjects such as alchemy, astrology, gematria, numerology, chemistry, astronomy, geometry, mathematics, etc
photos of him as a toddler and the secret tree house rules. lmao
A drawing of a penis, so very important.
Forget CDs because of the storage size and speed for writing / reading. Entirely not practical. I don't know what'd happen to regular HDDs that are locked away in an archive for decades and only ever used once in a while, as I have no clue if and how they'd lose stored data over time if properly stored.
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HDDs don't just last 4-7 years unless they're really shitty quality. More like 10-15 years or more, speaking from personal experience. Whoever made that entry is clueless or a lobbyist / shill.
Make sure to have physical books on Important stuff. This is good but if you can get to the point of accessing it with books then it will become useless overtime. Always teach your kids by having them copy books. You will always need a new copy, back ups, and books to sell.
I have basically 29 terabytes of porn graphic pictures I've been collecting over the past 13 years. I barely delete anything and I spend my days after work collecting sexy pics and vids
my archive would be so much bigger if I started diligently saving stuff earlier
mostly memes and redpill infographics
all newfags should create a folder on a separate drive and start saving all information that is remotely interesting to them
you can also store data on paper:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_data_storage
I've never heard of such a thing, that's new fren?
well no, punchcards utilize essentially the same method. the better your printer and scanner for decoding (color sensitivy and resolution) the more data can be stored, the article is quite interesting.
That's not optimal, unless you want to end result of the library of Alexandria. We need crystal that are able to hold information and is easy to access even for a complete primitive tard in case the planetary reset continues.
Or they will not be able to acess and the artifact itself will degrade otherwise.
A way that maybe you use sun light to see the data.
>data hoarding
Great description
In my company we call it an "information landfill"
The key is to have multiple backups. I have stuff backed up for years on drives that is now probably dead just from age.
Microfiche is still viable. I used them at libraries long time ago
I can't tell you Mr. Government agent but I believe saving photos of your loved ones should be seen as a very important thing.
If you plan to archive data on hard drives have in mind that they are sensible to shaking and high temperatures, also whatever medium you use to store data ensure to have backups
I mostly have shows I watched, movies and cracked videogames with downloaded mods and saves. My ideal scenario is that, in ten or 20 years, I can, theoretically, build a Windows 7 or 10 pc and replay them with mod libraries and everything. It might be completely doable without the hoarding, but I quite like having a home server. You just have to be realistic and know when to stop or when to start optimizing things. For instance, I have around 300gbs of screen recordings which I recently slimmed down to half by reducing the quality to 1080p30fps for raw files. At the moment, I have around 30tbs of capacity for less than 8 tbs of information. With redundancy, I still have another 7 tbs of free space. I dont think I will upgrade any time soon.
I am literally collecting every single STEM textbook I can get my hands on.
Have been doing so compulsively since 2009. First torrents, then 1 click hosters, now back to torrents again and also a lot of Z-lib stuff.
I have currently 12 or so external disks, most of them spinning 4-5TB ones, some smaller flash drives.
I honestly dont really know why I am doing this. Sometimes I spend hours cralwing the web, one ebook leading to the next, leading to wiki searches on topics I never ever heard of, leading to even more downloads...
I have broken every ebook management system on the market. Alpha ebooks is kinda-sorta almost acceptable, but 1. It slows down massively around 10k books or so and also crashes often when encountering malformed pdfs. Have been in talks with the devs on and off since 2013 about that, but they dont fix it.
Calibre is the ebook israelite because they insist on copying everything to a folder which is impossible because I have by now 20TB of ebooks.
Have been thinking of writing my own ebook manager since 2010 at least, using C++ and Qt to make sure it stays performant until at least 2000000 ebooks in the library.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_data_storage
Goddamn....
Your are doing God's work anon.
Impressive. I see the 'tism working its magic.
In the meantime, have you thought about having several instances of the ebook management systems? It might be something you can do in a virtual machine with a beefy enough pc, which, seeing your level of devotion, seems like a justified expense.
>several instances of ebook management
Honestly, no, never thought of that.
I just raged hard that those cucks could not implement a decent ebook management program and kept looking for a good one. After all most databases can easily store millions of rows.
On the positive side, this got me into another rabbit hole called "Information Retrieval" since I wanted to automate the indexing and catalogueing of my books. Learned a lot about Knowledge discovery, text mining, Latent semantic search, ontologies, and the Gensim software
Sounds fun.
The field of data management always seemed interesting to me. After enough time with mostly digital documents, we will amass a huge amount of unusable information unless we develop the tools to "dig" through it automatically and do the heavy lifting of organizing. It would have been an interesting career choice.
Either way, doing it as a hobby also sounds cool. Just don't let it keep you isolated from everything else. Set limits.
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>Calibre insists in copying to a folder
It is absolutely retarded how they create a folder for each author and folders for each books and an extra file for the cover and then also have all of this recorded in a database. Just use a database and leave the files alone you mongrels...
It's like those music library apps which would reorganize your music folders before you realized it and killed them
>mongrels
Saaar!
For an archaeologist to recover the files from their folders alone will be easier than reconstruction of a database. In essence a centralised file that might have been corrupted and the context lost. You may have the music, but lose some insight into the listeners mind.
Having the folders is a useful redundancy and database agnostic.
Anyway. The only traditional way to store information is upon granite slab.
Creator of calibre is named Kovid Goyal
Don't even bother with external drives. Get a raided NAS and spare drives. Don't cheap out on the drives. Learn about RAID and which one suits your set up.
>RAID is not a back up.
Go with LTO or a cloud solution and backup daily. Your data is probably not worth this much effort though. Backup video on film, backup writing on paper, backup music on tape. Digital media is not meant to last.
Download quality examples of art in all styles while you can, preserve pre-AI high quality datasets before it's too late to tell what was TRVE.
there is also quartz data storage, will porbably not become consumer affordable for some time.
a laser burns data into a quartz block in 3 dimensional space, if i guessed correctly.
Full archive of Project Gutenberg: https://download.kiwix.org/zim/gutenberg/
Find your language and download the newest date
There really isn't much of a point to archiving websites anymore as people just tend to use stuff directly connected to a handful of companies like google and facebook. I mainly go after youtube videos and tv/movies, especially original airings and vhs recordings. Studios aren't going to just delete movies and tv, they are going to slowly change and pervert it over time until it is entirely indistinguishable from its original form. They are already doing it and that is what data hoarding is helping to combat. My storage server is currently up to 70 Tb's
Wait you have the thundercats pilot? I've been looking for it, modern edits censor the naked cats
Unironically 3d printing creates lithophane pictures and 3d text storage options that are pretty durable, but not very space saving compared to electronic methods but don't overlook the option, it's the modern lithograph
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Does anyone know of any good E-Readers that arn't cuked? I.E. stick a 64gb SSD in it and it just goes. Long battery life.
Not really, kindle paperwhite long life but is cucked with updates but can read most text formats and pdf slow fresh speeds though, android tablets more flexible but can't see in daylight and bad battery life
Got an Boox Max Lumi. If its cucked its certainly the biggest cuck out there: 13 inches for her pleasure and 2 different backlights (yellow and white). Shows any kind of formats and does not care about DRM.
Crazy expensive but I have been using it daily since 2020. Has very good note taking and handwriting recognition (not quite as good as the ReMarkables however)
no conventional 'refresh rate' as with regular screens, thus eternal battery life
$700.
Fuuck. And why do you say it's cucked?
Sony E-Readers will do that
every ereader has stupidly long battery life thats just the nature of the display
if you want ereaders that don't fuck you over then don't even look at kindle or anything by amazon
I want an ereader I can write on but so far none of them have screen refresh rates fast enough for it to feel natural
boox max lumni has it, I mentioned it earlier.
Remarkable probably even better, but its not so good for ebooks and is proprietary
I've got a Kobo, which is quite good. There's a method to skip the initial sign in, so you never have to create an account. I use Calibre to put books on it.
scary halloween costume idea: data deterioration
My 10 year old lacie still works for some reason. Still in concerned about losing old data. Should I just recopy everything every 4 years? But then id need to replace harddrives ir can i reuse them?
Copy to new drive then wipe old drive and refill with same data, then disconnect and store as backup, use new drive as working drive
no use new drive as backup, use primary until it breaks, use bkp as primary, buy identical for bkp etc.
I'd do opposite because I'd be adding new data to the larger drive which would be the newer
oh ok, in case of identical ones my method would apply.
Have three backups minimum, with at least one offsite.
Never have them all in the same place, never have them all online at once.
furthermore, never have all connected to any device at all simultaneously. one never knows what type of virus might strike.
dna data storage is a thing too, lasts 300.000+ years
Based, and this is the only true answer: replication.
What a stupid book. You can't even read it.
JAV. Mostly nurses.
I've started to horde movies, books, some porn pics of girls if the shtf, source code, compilers, web archives, etc.
I dont trust the israelites. I mean even israelitetube is starting to ruin content.
Mostly just stuff they want to charge me to watch every time, or get me to pay a monthly charge to access a library o can't curate. Some games too, and a ton of good books. All the music I've ever liked, too.
4tb would hold about 1/10th of the shit I got...
We're talking about irreplaceable classics of art and achievement, not femboy pr0n.
>not femboy pr0n
Oh, in that case I have plenty of room...
Same shit man
Microfilm machine, old school mass storage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDnYWYXv0PQ
I focus on rare tabletop RPGs and Scooby Doo material
I’m storing old roms and emulators for them.
Sad reality is when a solar flare comes or the grid goes off you’d have to get creative to get a use out of it.
>Store all my porn in a HDD
>Emp explosion happens
>All my porn, gone
What do?
17th century woodblock printed japanese tentacle porn of course.
>Mom found the 17th century woodblock printed japanese tentacle porn
It's over
She knows already fren, she saw the ink stains on your fingers
This type of shit has to have happened in Japan at some point
Had to. Japanese woodblock porn was created as a way to get people to take advertisements for local stores that were paired with the porn on the same sheet.
Get M-discs. They're tough as nails and don't use plastics that suffer from decay like normal optical discs.
https://www.lg.com/us/business/digital-storage/lg-BP60NB10
This lil guy right here with a stack of M-disc is all you need.
You could download videos from israelitetube that you may think are worth preserving or that you may think that will be copyright claimed/flagged for some gay reason
I've got an Unraid NAS with 3x16TB, so that's 32TB usable and a parity drive.
>What information are you collecting for future generations?
Anything pre-WWII is a good start.
For more modern things, be sure to have a copy of books like Lord of the Rings as well as the HD versions of the films. These days it's impossible to watch anything which doesn't have at least a few non-whites thrown in as the heckin' good guys. There's no doubt in my mind that there will eventually be a "reboot" of the original LoTR films. The gay fanfic series on Amazon with Negrolas is likely just the start. And we've already seen that publishing companies are rewriting children's books like the ones by Roald Dahl. These edits, no matter how small, stack up over the years.
Whatever setup you go for, make sure to have at least one backup. I also make a habit of putting things on those portable HDDs to give to normies and let them copy them too. Maximising reach in the event that this shit is ever scrubbed.
One thing that people maybe don't think of is a portable computer. Think raspberry pi type device which you could in theory run a lightweight linux distro and use it as a server or computer you can use in a situation where you want to work fully offline or don't need much power (even batteries and a solar panel) to use it.
Also please put your backup drives in a sensible place, like a safe. If you bought bitcoin you should be doing this with the private keys of your wallet anyway, so I just keep it in there along with some precious metal and emergency cash.
for german anons: nsl archiv, everything concerning natsoc, 'propaganda' movies speeches, audiobooks
https://archive.org/download/nslarchiv_201910
udo valendy, post war revisionism (magazine series):
https://archive.org/search?query=Historische+Tatsachen
cant find it now, but there was a speeches collection of the time before hitler, and around post ww1 germany, politics and all of that, bismark speeches, speeches recordings of left wing politicians etc. etc. for a more accurate historical context.
In the future they may prevent us from shitposting online.
Have you found an alternate way to write to friends, neighbours that doesn't involve israeli "apps", the European Union sniffering HTTPS traffic or compromised GSM for SMS?
Amatuer/HAM radio is a nice option for voice. But what if you want to write to people and you also want to keep the power consumption super low (like you could put a transmitter and have it run on a battery for like 10 years).
Then you should look at LoRa. Pic related is a homemade device. This tech is often used to relay sensor data. People often complain about the range but you can build a mesh network and there are hybrid devices (which bridge things like wifi, bluetooth and so on, so the LoRa devices are reachable)
Thanks for sharing. I especially like the art from this era. It really shows you what could've been and I get mixed feelings about this. Leider mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut. Ich werde die Scheiße trotzdem aufheben, in wahrer Horter-Manier.
>I don't see it catching on with normies since most of them don't have the means to read them anymore
That's why I was thinking that having the actual drives for older media available, so people could use.
Normies don't want to use anything if other normies aren't using it. There is a certain barrier you just have to break down. But also it could be done gradually. I think maybe starting out with something like a station for books. And then add kind of pi device which is taking weather readings etc.
As for people doing bad shit, I'd expect that in a city. I live rural and get raw milk from a machine that pours it like a soda machine. And I leave coins in a jar.
Pic related are the apps that I use with my CB radio ,they work very well
.iso, .pdf, .avi
But physical media over digital.
Have been printing photobooks for the past few years when I realised if there were issues with the grid I would have no copies. Obviously this is not the case for huge amounts of data, but if I can't look at photos of my kids in 10 years time because they are all trapped on a drive.. well that might suck a bit. Not even printing high quality photobooks, cheaper ones on archival paper seem fine for my purposes.
Not really. HDD's and SSD's only last like 10 years and only take a little humidity to fuck them up in an instant.
Discs, CDs and DVDs. I have hundreds of original classic movies and classical music on discs, been collecting since the 1980s. I know what is good and bought it. I don't like streaming they spy on my preferences, if I watch a movie online israelites are spying on me and I don't like that. Psychical media means that can't collect your data or censor your collection.
Interesting
All daddy daughter incest porn and all daddy daughter e-boi comics or anime and the story of lot and his daughters in the Bible.
Do not use SSD or USB sticks for unpowered long-term archival. If there isn't enough charge to keep the data, it'll be either corrupted or gone.
MDiscs are better. How many SSD or hard disc drives do you have that work after 20 years? You want a permanent lithographic storage.
Unironically records are the longest lasting media.
In 300 years nobody will have the codec to decode your digital data. I have a shellac record of Mozart's Magic Flute that is over 100 years old and it plays perfectly on my HIFI. They even used a gold record to send messages into space with Voyager in the 70s.
I'm willing to bet that the HDD's that I use as backup are going to be working just fine in 20 years. They spend 99% of their time in the drawer not doing anything.
20 years is nothing in terms of archiving. There are old digital storage tech from the 80s and 90s that were supposed to last forever but we lost the CODECs for them. You can't reconstruct a codec, but you can play a 100+ year old record without a codec, I know I have one my Grandmother gave me.
True.
Its just decryption. If the algorhythm [sic] was not designed with obfuscation then similar methods would work. If you know that the file was for music then it should actually become quite easy. Distort, "corrupt", the data until you hear music.
The countries that have the worst of it tended to sell and store CDs in cardboard slips. The plastic cases are fine.
>Do not use SSD
This isn't true you can go over a year between power on cycles before any data is lost
I'm building an archive of all the world's music
and porn
but not porn music
Make sure you prioritize daddy daughter incest porn.
comics, magazines, movies, tv, d&d, computer games, manuals, howtos, encyclopedia cdroms, novels, wikipedia, educational books, languages, history, youtube videos, pics, porn, /misc/ infographics, /misc/.
Just some helpful info but if you ever want to design and print your own hardcover from pdf, Lulu will do it for $30 US shipped. Ive so many pirated tabletop RPGs from them.
I'll look into that thanks
if you have enough money, or ink cartridges/paper plus sewing equipment and glue you can also make your own books
HIGHLY recommend this channel
https://youtube.com/@DASBookbinding?feature=shared
also recommend this program for converting pdfs into booklets for easier printing/assembling https://pdfbooklet.sourceforge.io/wordpress/download/
if you're into data hoarding I also recommend you pick up book binding, not only will you convert your digital files into physical ones, you'll also pick up a pretty cool hobby
Is there a way to make the ink Waterproof for watercolors after print? I'd like to do that.
Good question, sadly I do not have an answer for that, though I've seen special paper-coating chemicals that you can use to turn any paper waterproof
I've heard laser copy is mostly Waterproof but no experience, also they say if you heat set with an iron that helps even regular ink so I need to experiment
Without laminating, or applying some sort of coating, I doubt it.
well i'm thinking about using waterproof ink. thats what comic book artists do, but they are using brush and nib pen, i'm trying to figure out a way to use a desktop printer and that kind of ink.
You may be able to use that ink in a continuous ink system attached to an inkjet printer. I don't know, though.
It is called an inkjet printer plotter. The tech has been around for a while.
thanks. i'll look it up
Movies/Anime/Tv/Games. don't even care about porn it's worthless because they keep making better porn. there is zero reason to go back to the classics (someone should keep old playboys just for the lulz though) and soon ai porn will replace all porn.
I basically have an innerweb that pulls from the proxy server on my pfsense box that archives anything I browse. I had too many instances of sites and videos taken down. Of course some backend functionality of sites will not work, but I can browse what I previously saw and one link deep of all of that. I used to run a raid 10 box for storage, but just say fuck it now and use sequentially installed and removed drives of the largest reasonably priced drives available at the time. It has come in handy a few times.
I save everything even if it may seen irrelavent because I know these basters are going to rewrite history
Why don’t we have an international body, dedicated to the preservation of all knowledge for the future of mankind? We can put that shit under Antarctica or something
because israelites will fuck with it
How do I find good deals on storage?
I'm looking for something at least in the 3 Tb range, but will accept lesser capacity if the price is right.
Also, are Black Friday deals worth it and, if so, any good ones this year?
Bruh, it isn't 2008 anymore. You can get 16tbs for $350. You make shopping for 3tb with "a good deal" sound like a rarity. Storage is cheap as shit these days.
For low capacity like 4 tb try newegg and filter by size, pretty cheap probably less than 100 dollars
diskprices dot com
Enter your parameters and sort by $/TB
Currently 12-14TB is the sweet spot
The thing that will really hurt a lot of people is losing their printed photos. These are not lasting as they once did.
my mom scrapbooked from like 1990 to 2007. she still has them on her bookshelf. I should figure out the best way to preserve those. there's bound to be something more efficient than scanning pages in 1 by 1.
I can see how the world lost all its knowledge before
They used sandstone instead of granite.
do not get stuck on perfectionism, get your archive up asap and keep it simple.
Any 20TB usb hdd and a backup copy in cold storage is perfectly fine.
>kiwix for wikis
>snappy-driver-installer-origin for drivers
>OS images
>phone firmware
>jdownloader with any debrid service to pirate everything
>movies, tv, games, software, ebooks, etc
I've bookmarked so much good stuff, just to come back later to find it all gone and never to be seen again.
I wish I would have started hoarding earlier.
Currently trying to make an offline copy of
pcgamingwiki.com
tried wget and HTTrack, but the result just wont work offline.
undersea internet cables are ancient.
data storage looks like coliseums.
cities are circuit boards.
why the same distance between "race tracks" and airports in different cities?
I started backing up rare old TV shows, obviously movies/TV/music and tons of documentaries from the old days before they made them stupid. When I have kids I'll show them these old documentaries instead of new ones that are dumbed down crap. Offline wikipedia, all the software I normally use, every recent linux distro and a mirror of the debian/ubuntu/centos repositories. And all the APKs for the apps I need for things on my phone. I'm building a low-powered box with nvmes to have an offline backup at a relative's home too.
what if this thread is made to have people expose what type of stuff they are archiving lol
I like archiving stuff, I just do archives based on countries & varying topics like the occult, religion, space, aliens, flat earth, ancient structures and architecture
A very broad range of topics, even ones that are ridiculous & things I completely oppose.
I don't archive gore or porn or any degen stuff though, not really interested in that
>Mild topic change but still slightly on topic
I remember a time where I was addicted to porn, I didnt even think I was but looking back I see I definitely was. I would save so many porn clips even though I'd never look at them again. When it came to deciding to quit looking at porn, it was actually hard for me to delete that archive I had & this definitely goes to show it was a form of addiction
I hope everyone else here is able to quit porn as well, it is definitely a challenge at first & I feel stupid even saying this, but maybe it might be read by someone who's at that right moment where they're ready to make the same choice & quit themselves. Do it.
I admit sometimes I fold and might look at some, but those moments are very rare. I have none saved or bookmarked & it's not on my mind anymore & I don't waste hours sometimes in a single day browsing that shit
Life is so much better without porn, you have more time available each day & you never feel pathetic with yourself & you'll be more outgoing with women, even if you aren't you'll still be feeling a lot better with yourself.
Always do the opposite of what israelites want you to do.
>I don't archive gore or porn or any degen stuff though, not really interested in that
Believe me for every one person like you there are at least 200 archiving that with equal enthusiasm, nothing of "value" will be lost because of your decision to focus on other topics
>it was actually hard for me to delete that archive
A tale as old as time. In my day, men would "delete their archive" by dumping their grubby magazines in hedgerows, only to be found and enjoyed by a new generation.
I found picrel in the trash earlier this year. The latest date stamps were from 2008. Guy had a folder of 3MB 240p Bangbros clips in WMV format and they all played fine, if this gives you any confidence that your data will survive bitrot.
Any coom on it?
There was a keyboard and mouse but they looked gross so I left those lol
I archive porn because I like having it at my fingertips instead of searching for it or waiting for something to load or stream. It actually saves me time overall. It also soothes my horder itch while not taking up any real life space.
I have deleted it a few times, so I guess it's not an addiction for me. And while I haven't deleted it lately, less than a year ago I dropped the portable HD and it broke, and I just shrugged my shoulders and got a new one and started again.
My friends used to mock me for it, but then the PornHub purge happened and they were all left dry (in more ways than one.)
porn
don't forget faraday protection for everything.
Not sustainable. We can still read the histories of Pharaohs from tens of thousand of years ago but not data from tapes made 40 years ago now.
Looking at all these homosexuals with small harddrives makes me lol, this is just my movies harddrive
I'm working on hoarding
Not bad, I have 120tb or so in drives, store film media in 720p for best quality to size ratio and if you back things up to disk and store them correctly they can last centuries and your kids may thank you
>store them correctly
this is the thing most data hoarders don't do or don't read up on. They don't know or care about bitrot and filesystems with CRC checks.
You're not going to get bitrot on an optical disk, you need to worry about warping due to temporature change, UV damage to the plastic, and scratches because you're a nagger and you treat it like a nagger would, keep it in a sleeve in a chest in a dark place with a temperature consistantly room temperature and it'll last basically forever
whats the most you can get on a bluray now? 100GB?
100gb as far as I am aware
I've been working on digitizing home movies. Archiving books and other media is a lot more straight forward. I'm still pretty trash at having a logical file tree for massive archives.
I just archive according to my manual organization, and sort by category, most disks are 50-100 gigs and I keep a slip of paper with each with whats on it, and organize their location in my safe based on what is on the disk, I can't imagine this would be a real issue unless your HDDs were poorly organized or you were using a program to organize it for you
ALL MP4s of Staged Boston Bombing. Every video of staged fake shooting done by israelites.
9tbs over 4 PS copied.
Library of Alexandria sucked
Climate was too humid so the papyrus scrolls didnt really hold up
naggers talking about tape.. tape! Yeah, is a neat way to store more data than your average magnetic hard driver, but is still not even close to be reliable for long run. If you want to be a heirloom for your future generations is impossible via tape, fungus eat them, can be corrode very easily, ask unironically NASA that let all the moon landing tapes go to waste.
The only way to hold information for eons is via crystal, just need the right crystal and a way to encode and read the data.
If you want it to survive a event like 10k years ago or nukes then your only option is going for something that can survive when you can't.
With tape it is about storage. Even if the tape is degraded you can bake it to make it readable again.
So back to stone basically
Yes.
>So back to stone basically
stone>sand>glass
>https://newatlas.com/computers/microsoft-project-silica-glass-data-storage-10000-years/
To ensure that our history lives on for longer, Microsoft has been experimenting with storing data on glass with what it calls Project Silica. In 2019, the company demonstrated the tech in a partnership with Warner Bros by writing the 1978 movie Superman onto a slide of quartz silica glass and reading it back. The slide, measuring just 75 x 75 mm (3 x 3 in) and 2 mm (0.08 in) thick, could hold as much as 75.6 GB, and remained readable even after being scratched, baked, boiled, microwaved, flooded and demagnetized.
>A few years on and it seems that Microsoft has improved the system even further. That storage capacity has been expanded more than 100 times, to over 7 TB, and the company has increased its claimed lifespan from 1,000 years to a whopping 10,000 years.
The only way to truly save information is in books and documents that are protected from the elements as much as possible. Even then it's likely they will be lost to time.
>still worth it to have a book collection though
That isn't true. I have over 1gb of porn saved of plastic punch cards. It will last longer than any book.
I have 40 4TB external HDD's of VR JAV. I'm coom maxxing, have fun with your data maxxing, lol
ANYONE KNOW WHAT BOOK THIS PAGE IS FROM?!
https://ia802607.us.archive.org/3/items/MonarchMindControl/Monarch-mind-control.pdf
>monarch
>m _ n a r _ _
>mRNA
>data hoarding
Pointless.
>What information are you collecting for future generations?
Not gonna happen.
Here's the issue: all that magnetic platter, transistor shit, etc - is going to be worthless within a decade, MAYBE 2-3, after the collapse. Tech relies upon perpetual replacement of tech to continue to exist. You can horde all the data you want, but if you build a server big enough to make it worthwhile the following will happen:
>drives will fail monthly until your RAID config is irrecoverable shortly after you run out of replacement drives
>you will be fighting to survive too much to power any of it up (oh, and the HDDs will still die while sitting unpowered)
>you will have wasted resources better spent prepping
>you will not have the time (e.g. with all that surviving you plan to do) to look at the data, let alone share it with anyone who isn't state-affiliated (e.g. an org big enough to create new hard drives)
I get it, I'm autistic too, but if you don't learn it yourself to exploit it and teach others how to exploit it, that knowledge is worthless; in fact, I'd argue it's less than worthless: it has the cost of making you want to protect it, necessarily at the expense of all else in some manner, inclusive of your own survival and ability to share it.
naggerS NEVWR HEARD OF BOOKS AND SCROLLS!
VATICAN PROBABLY HAS ASS LOADS OF ANCIENT TEXT HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIX
>VATICAN PROBABLY HAS ASS LOADS OF ANCIENT TEXT HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIX
They do, they collect them from data hoarders when civilizations collapse and use them to collapse future civilizations.
what's the best way to keep multiple drives backed up with another drive with the same files? i've heard of RAIDs but i think thats 4-5 drives alll cloned? i'd just want one extra drive to replicate everything in case of failure but i don't know the best way to go about it
https://freefilesync.org/
so you'd say keep the main drive in my pc and use an external with the same amount of space to clone every once in awhile?
Yup, shrimple as that. 🙂
thanks anon. you'd say robocopy would be the thing to use? that other anon said freefilsync
Depends on your budget and technical proficiency. If you just want one extra drive, the easiest solution is to rsync (Linux) or robocopy (Windows) to an external USB drive. This has the added benefit of allowing you to keep the drive offline in the event of a power surge or virus, and it can easily be stored in a firesafe/bugout bag.
>data hoarding
Data hoarding is good but what about seed hoarding? Is anyone hoarding non GMO plant seeds ?
careful about bit rot. disconnected SSD and HDD won't store data forever.
bury a book and a HDD, wait 100 years and funny enough the book will be readable while the HDD will not.
can't find a clear answer how long HDD and SSD can be disconnected without losing data. some articles said just 7 years.
cds
simple as
probably worse, though i hear glass cubes are the best for storing lossless data for many 1000s of years
How would we use glass cubes in such a way ourselves?
i dont think you can unless you're some experimental company. read an article about glass cubes storing data many years ago.
https://www.sciencealert.com/this-new-5d-data-storage-disc-can-store-360tb-of-data-for-14-billion-years
>in before 404
>https://www.sciencealert.com/this-new-5d-data-storage-disc-can-store-360tb-of-data-for-14-billion-years
This is optimal, but we don't need optimal, if LULZ could replicate this at twice the size for a single TB it would change archiving forever
Well it would just be physically etched glass right? bronze would probably be easier to use for such a purpose, why hasn't LULZ made a program and a 3d printable etcher rig to do this yet? it doesn't seem very hard at all
poetry
pottery
simple as
>prolific data hoarder
>haven't preserved anything except old LULZ memes, obscure fetish porn, and marriage ruining nudes
>tfw ive got about 130TB of spinning rust on my network
just looked up how much it would cost in M-Disc 100GB blurays to archive just my essential files (6TB). $5,000. to backup 6TB.
They make these hard drive docks you can just drop any SATA drive into rather than have a dedicated external drive. Then you can just swap out standard hard drives like they were removable disks. If the device fails, who cares your data is on a standard SATA drive. Get another dock or just install the thing in your desktop.