The market really does suck. Don't take your job for granite if you have one. I'm in a stable job but been apply to dozen others every few months since end of lock down. You get one or two phone interviews per 20 applications. Plus the offers are shit compared to what I current have.
Yeah I currently have a job as well with 5 yoe, it’s much harder to get interviews than a couple years ago
you did that on purpose, I know you did
Actually its a common phrase
The phrase is "take it for granted".
As in, you assume something has been granted to you and that it is inalienable.
Granite on the other hand, is a phaneritic intrusive igneous rock composed mostly of quartz, alkali feldspar, and plagioclase.
not him but bleed
>Plus the offers are shit compared to what I current have.
Don't worry, inflation will take care of that.
maybe the market will recover someday, don't count on it tho
Sure market sucks but this guy sounds like a total skizzo ... Guy "has" a post grad degree get still worrying about his gpa? I smell total bull shit... All of it.
>JOB MARKET IS LE ROUGH/BAD/SHIT/COAL
Nah there's junior oversupply.
If seniors and higher ups have hard time searching jobs then IT'S BAD
>Verification not required.
To be fair, everybody told them to go CS, them and arts students got treated like kings by the faculty and administration, but few people wanted to look at the CEs, and nobody wanted to comfort a CE that was struggling.
>everybody told them to go CS
true, I think now it's "go learn plumbing", years ago it was "go learn laws" and "go learn medicine"
>another Verification not required.
After the collapse in 1987 the job market didn't recover until 1995, and then just 5 years later dot com cratered the job market.
Yeah you need to have a good just to get in and probably ironed out all the retarded habits, they also kick you out for going under 3.0 and anything above 3.0 is average
>Guy "has" a post grad degree
He's not saying that. He's saying "post grad" as in "life after graduating." He's just retarded.
low gpa means he can't go for higher education
What exactly does a math major do everyday?
High frequency trading
Actuarial work (risk analysis)
Logistics and planning
And quite often, programming
the people who get into this are CS grads from ivy league who happen to have math chops
CS PhDs do this
CE/EE/CS PhDs do this
you literally don't need anything more than 2 basic certs that any retard can obtain for this
>Logistics and planning
>And quite often, programming
so you drowned in debt just to get jobs undergrads can get?
it's so obvious that you're not a math PhD lol. The real answer is research and consulting, pretty much everywhere in the private industry, for very good money. Or academic positions for varying amounts of money
Everything about your post was incorrect, and it wasn't even funny. I wonder why you wrote it?
> I wonder why you wrote it?
because you're wrong, and you're a larping retard who clearly knows nothing about what a math PhD does. You sound like a high schooler who thinks he has his shit figured out
I'm not sure if this is cope or not, but you're neither informative nor amusing. I mean this as sincerely as possible, reevaluate your life and what you're doing wasting it writing idiotic comments here.
> but you're neither informative nor amusing
I can say the exact same thing about you, homosexual. I personally know CS undergrads who are now in actuary. You are not a fucking math PhD, you are a larping homosexual. I'm not trying to amuse you, I'm calling you out.
Seething. My list above wasn't even exhaustive, just some of the things math phds do, apparently another one we can add to the list is arguing with retards on the internet, but I don't want to make a habit of it.
Wait, you think that Mathematicians do not do cryptographic research? That this is somehow only reserved for computer science? Au contraire my retarded friend, this is so strongly correlated to mathematics that we actually see the department combine both those with a background in Pure and Applied mathematics.
> Wait, you think that Mathematicians do not do cryptographic research? That this is somehow only reserved for computer science?
No. It's just not what you'd answer to someone asking what a typical math major does for a living. It's like someone asking "what does a dev with a BS in CS do for a living?" and getting a bullshit answer like "they do circuit design with VHDL and software verification" . It's not exactly false but it's also not representative of what most CS grads do, and in fact you'll find that most people got those jobs through CE. This homosexual gave an entire list of jobs and didn't bother naming a single one of the common ones that math PhDs tend to have
there's no way you're not a larping child. You're not fooling anyone.
The number one thing that math phds do is... research. In industry, it's all of those fields and a lot more. Basically any time you need someone with extreme confidence. The same reason many Physics phds also do quant. Mathfags doing HFT is not bizarre at all, so it's very strange that it triggers you.
Can I hazard a guess that you "hate math" because you failed out of your first proof-based math course, like so many other CS students?
*confidence -> competence.
The closest thing to a "programming degree" is CS, and it's bullshit how not only is it treated as such by colleges themselves, but you are expected to learn things like discrete mathematics if you want to have it.
If you cannot do discrete math you might as well be a webshit bootcamper. Very basic linear algebra is used in pretty much all areas of upper computer science courses.
> The number one thing that math phds do is... research
yeah that's what I said. And that's why the fact that you didn't mention it first and foremost is fucking retarded. Now you're trying to do damage control
> Can I hazard a guess that you "hate math"
I love math, and real math PhDs (not larping high schoolers) are cool.
>the fact that you didn't mention it first
Because the context is clearly industry, in accordance with the "300k starting" meme, which of course isn't true, but industry is still far more lucrative than academia.
I can code myself around the windows and linux kernel in assembly. Let's see you do that, Mr. Genius.
>mathnagger not acting like an egotistical retard challenge
I'm a mathnagger with a CS undergrad degree, which is enough to know that neither kernel is written in pure assembly. I also suspect you cannot "code around windows" because it'd require Microsoft actually hiring you.
I'm talking about making kerenl drivers you literal retard.
>I have a cs degree
Yeah I can tell.
Again, drivers are not completely written in assembly. Remember, you can post in my cocky tone, but you still have to know what you're talking about. Also, why would anyone want a driver written by a guy who is filtered by discrete math?
>i read about theoretical kernel drivers in my how operating systems work: overview: an introduction: part 1
>no i cannot use assembly or bash or powershell
He's right though, most drivers are written in C or C++ these days.
> Because the context is clearly industry, in accordance with the "300k starting" meme, which of course isn't true, but industry is still far more lucrative than academia.
the richest math wizards are working in the R&D departments of big companies, they're not doing actuarial work lol. They're doing the same thing they'd do in academia but in the private sector, and without having to babysit students
The list isn't exhaustive, was never claimed to be, and yet still covers what you have just mentioned. I drew those career paths from experience, acquaintances who are either phds or grad students.
I wonder what triggered you into putting so much energy into gatekeeping what you think a math phd does. In any case I don't think it's a good use of anyone's time to further this discussion.
Software engineering is a programming degree.
What a retard
You were BTFO, and sheepishly return with that. Weak.
What's retarded about that? Explain in detail, think hard and put a lot of effort into your response.
> Actuarial work (risk analysis)
I do this
Bit dull but secure employment and decent money
Good luck passing your next test.
Also a math PhD is verifiable proof that you're highly competent and capable of getting things done, so you're unlikely to have trouble actually getting useful work done in an office environment.
uhh yeah... i'll have an cappuccino
and make sure you don't over froth the milk, wagie
nta but you’re a guaranteed helpdesk
Mathematicians also have the highest average IQ of any profession iirc
Caramel macchiato please
Apply for jobs.
high school math teachers based off the people i personally know
If your high school teacher actually had a math phd (not teaching) you were incredibly blessed.
She will get "promoted" by her rich, muscular boss. She will realize her true value, and that she has been oblivious to the social hierarchy for a long time. She will start distancing herself from you. You won't get any explanations apart from "I have a headache" etc etc. But hey, I'm really happy for her and her boss. You should be too. Accept your inferiority, boy.
this bears repeating
nobody gives a fuck that you're a major
you literally can bullshit your way through the system if you just know how to fucking talk to people
I only hire Math PhDs, but I will start you at 300k.
Jesus fucking christ.
With great trepidation, I must ask what is a GORL?
My best guess, brother. I don't speak zoom.
Thanks, I feared some sort of trans abomination.
mystery solved, time for dinner bois
That is a very relaxed lynx.
Looks more like a serval to me
>work as a concrete layer
>go fuck around and do something else for a while
>need some money
>go to a guy who needs concrete laid and tell him you lay concrete
>"okay, here's a job bud, see you on monday"
>work in tech
>have a 1 week work gap on your resume (meaning you've missed the development of 5 new redundant frameworks, all of which you're now expected to know)
>forever barred from working in the industry ever again
>need to pursue your master's just to have a chance at the entry level again
>job market is bad
The US has less than 4% unemployment. I can't wait until there is a real crisis so fags know what it really is like. I'll be selling the ropes.
it's bad for tech/remote work in particular. obviously it's not a bad time to get a job if you're an electrician or some shit.
I was making 60$/hr as a 3D environment artist before the pandemic, had lots of money saved and took 1.5 years off, now there's almost no work available
It is not tho. Not earning a lot of money for not doing anything is normal.
I automated my job seeking process with python and GPT4 and I had sent a custom tailored application and cover letter to every single company within a 100km radius in about 3 days, right as I was finishing my undergrad last spring. I also used GPT + some cronjobs and statistics to generate fake commits and commit reasonable looking code to my git every day (lower on weekends or holidays of course). I got overwhelmed with interview requests and had my pick of the litter.
If you can't find a job in this market, that means you aren't using the right tools and you aren't automating your tasks effectively. If you aren't doing those things you've already failed as a programmer. If you can't manage this, consider yourself filtered before you even applied.
Honestly, the automation process of the job applications itself shows that you have the skills/initiative to do well at their company.
Realized this way too late and wasted a lot of time sending sub oar cover letters. Can't wait for the day when corps catch up to the fact that AI basically invalidates 90% of the recruiting process.
It'll be the day before they realize it replaces 90% of the jobs themselves.
Every time I read one of these posts it's someone complaining that they cant find a job after applying to multiple hundreds. You are doing something wrong if you are applying to that many.
...or maybe employers realize your degree is meaningless and it has nothing to do with slacking off.
Everybody who has no job wishes they had one. Everybody who has a job wishes they didn't have one. The path of the wagecuck is an ironic paradox that ends with you old, ugly and crippled in a rest home with nothing to show for it, slowing decomposing in front of a tv blaring infomercials. If you were able to learn how to program computers and you still haven't figured out how to generate income without resorting to wagecuckoldry then you're fucking up.
They'll make the interest rates 0% again soon
>I'm stupid off and lazy off and the job market sucks off
the person can barely string a sentence together and uses odd phrases:
>I was just so burned off
They are either ESL or low iq... or both.
What is the difference between "I'm burned out, man" and "I'm a lazy shit who refuses to work" ?
>Its not real because I haven't experienced it
>B-BUT GOD IS TOTALLY REAL EVEN THOUGH I HAVENT SEEN HIM
this isn't LULZ related for the millionth time
Whoever wrote this long redundant bitch blog is a homosexual who deserves retail or whatever mid corporate hell he lands.
>literal reddit screenshot with a wojak pasted on top
Does the glavset even bother with this fucking shit anymore? We used to get their quality trolls here, some real subversive shit. Now it's just... this.
I feel neglected.
Wife and I have near identical credentials and resumes. We've been applying for all the same jobs, she gets a call once or twice per week for the past couple of months. I got a call ONCE, right after one of hers.
How could he complete a degree and still not grasp that he essentially booked a meeting with Darwin?
yeah I'm doing fine. coasting on my six figure wfh job. worked about 9 hours this week, mostly design docs and spreadsheet scenarios for BA folks
oh, you said cs bros. sorry, I'm a mathfag
McDonald's is always hiring
>This person on reddit said this
Gamergate was a big mistake
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