>cromwell

>cromwell
Was he a good ruler/king/tyrant? Tell me more about him.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Satan’s lackey.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    God's own Englishman

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tyrant. Idolaters annoy me as much as him, but he should've left them alone.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chudwell was a tyrantical hero.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He didn't kill enough of the Irish

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    puritanism is judaism for gentiles

    • 10 months ago
      Dirk

      Read "Oliver Cromwell and the rule of the puritans in England" by Charles firth
      There is an excellent audiobook on librivox.org

      That would be Christian identity/British Israelism as found in the Armstrong movement or among schizo internet wignats

      • 10 months ago
        Nega-Dirk

        A tool of Satan.

        Dirk ever time we debate Cromwell you lose.
        Everyone knows you are an Anarkiddie yet you lust over a satanic dictator who murdered his king, banned Christmas and got his head shoved on a spike by his former allies after his death.
        His entire “commonwealth” lasted for less time than Charles reign.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >who murdered his king
          Charles' own fault for being beyond unreasonable and not accepting to compromise after his first, or even second defeat.
          >banned Christmas
          That was parliament.
          >got his head shoved on a spike by his former allies after his death.
          So you think treason is cool?
          >His entire “commonwealth” lasted for less time than Charles reign
          It was strong while Cromwell lived. His successors being militarily unable is not his fault.

          • 10 months ago
            Nega-Dirk

            >Charles' own fault
            That’s cope and you know, the only person who died due to their own fault was literally Cromwell for being to consumed by his own pride that he refused a cure.

            >That was parliament
            Come on we all know that parliament was dominated by the dictorial power of Cromwell. That’s also why after he was gone they brought Christmas back.
            You are intellectually dishonest and you know it.

            >So you think treason is cool
            Of course not, that’s why I Cromwell was in the wrong and belongs alongside Judas.

            >It was strong while Cromwell lived.
            So strong that he died due to his own sinful pride and his state completely collapsed without him and immediately undid all his demonic actions.
            Frick anon, that’s a weird standard of strength.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Your seething is palpable.
            From the day the Magna Carta Libertatum was signed, and earlier than that when William the conqueror acknowledged the ancestral rights of the English people, and earlier than that when the Anglosaxon kings were chosen by an assembly of their subjects, and even earlier than that still, when the first chieftains of the Saxons, Angles, Jutes and Frisians gave rings to the men of their table, the ancestral right of the people of England to rule themselves, under the guidance, not the domination, of a king, was laid and set. Charles I trying to destroy parliament in order to rule with no care for the opinions and thoughts of the men of the realm was a mistake, and him not recognizing this after being begged to come to his senses *several times* was unjustifiable. He needed to die for the message to get through that a king of England couldn't rule if not with the support of the English people.

          • 10 months ago
            Nega-Dirk

            >Your seething is palpable.
            Obvious projection is obvious.

            >but my cavemen Englishmen did X
            Literally irrelevant.
            The will of God was clearly in favour Monarchy and to murder the king, let alone abolish the monarchy was a clear violation of Gods law.

            >He needed to die
            A lie and you know it.
            >for the message to get through that a king of England couldn't rule if not with the support of the English people.
            So you replaced it with a Dictator that ruled without the support of the English people. And the government implemented in its place was clearly moronic and that’s why is collapsed immediately.
            You have no leg to stand on Monarchy in England had ruled unbroken for millennia and your chimpout murdered an innocent mad and brought only temporary autism at the hands of an anti-Christian tyrant.
            The people of England didn’t choose Cromwell and they certainly didn’t choose his policies.

            Cromwell was on balance a good figure in English history. His ecclesiastical reforms were valid but tempered with tolerance. His republican aims were true as was the overthrow of the despot charles. He was a capable and effective military commander.

            Rule by representative parliament is a productive step towards a just voluntarist society when it's done away from a greedy, wasteful and dictatorial monarch who brazenly disregards the established political process.

            [...]
            Insufficient material

            I'll say something good about Pilate who actually succeeded in killing my God, he voiced protest as he went along with it

            >Cromwell was on balance a good figure in English history.
            No he was a satanist and a murdered, we have the discussion every time Dirk and you always lose. The Bible clearly speaks in favour of monarchy and its abolishing by Cromwell in breach of Gods law.
            >Rule by Cromwell dictatorship is a productive step towards a just voluntarist society
            Dirk are you moronic?

          • 10 months ago
            Dirk

            >He was a satanist
            This is why I ignore you every time you try and spat with me. You have nothing intelligent to say.

          • 10 months ago
            Nega-Dirk

            >This is why I ignore you every time
            Good job addressing the arguments Dirk.
            You know the Bible is on my side
            You know Cromwell was a dictator and your support for him is hypocritical given your political leanings
            You know that the system he instituted paved the way form more totalitarian states like the Jacobins in France.
            You have NO bibical arguments for Cromwell, everything he did was immoral.
            His murder of the Irish
            His banning of Christmas
            His treatment of Catholics
            His murder of his king
            The abolition of the monarchy
            The only reason you don’t take my arguments seriously is you know you have NO actual counter-argument, Cromwell’s pride was his own bane and his commonwealth was such a clear affront to God that it collapsed instantly after his Death.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>but my cavemen Englishmen did X
            >Literally irrelevant.
            >You have no leg to stand on Monarchy in England had ruled unbroken for millennia
            The selective appeal to tradition, good one there lad.

          • 10 months ago
            Nega-Dirk

            >The selective appeal to tradition
            YES!
            If a tradition is in conflict with Christianity then it has no value.
            That’s isn’t a GOTTCHA, Aztec Human sacrifice might be traditional for the mesoamericans but I don’t give a frick, human sacrifice is immoral.

        • 10 months ago
          Dirk

          Categorizing men of history as all good or all bad is for children

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Say one good thing about King Herod or Haman

          • 10 months ago
            Nega-Dirk

            Now now Dirk you know you are misrepresenting my position and are being uncharitable.
            I never said Cromwell was 100% evil. That’s why you are unable to link to a post where I say that. However, Cromwell on the balance is the bad guy in the English civil war and your support for him is hypocritical given you Anarcho leanings.

          • 10 months ago
            Dirk

            Cromwell was on balance a good figure in English history. His ecclesiastical reforms were valid but tempered with tolerance. His republican aims were true as was the overthrow of the despot charles. He was a capable and effective military commander.

            Rule by representative parliament is a productive step towards a just voluntarist society when it's done away from a greedy, wasteful and dictatorial monarch who brazenly disregards the established political process.

            Say one good thing about King Herod or Haman

            Insufficient material

            I'll say something good about Pilate who actually succeeded in killing my God, he voiced protest as he went along with it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Frick off, Dirk.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was the physical manifestation of the English love of liberty against the monarch of England being fatally misled by continentaloid delusions of authoritarianism.

    • 10 months ago
      Seranafag

      >English love of liberty
      He was a Judaiser

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >IT WAS ALL DAAA JOOOOOOOOOZ
        Don't you ever get tired of being pathetic?

    • 10 months ago
      Nega-Dirk

      >He was the physical manifestation of the English love of liberty
      >bans Christmas
      Pick one.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Confessor Cromwell is the greatest man in the history of Britain.

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He did chuddy things in Ireland and I don't like him for it

    • 10 months ago
      Dirk

      I read online that the irish in Vegas were pissed when a hotel was renamed "the Cromwell" lol
      They were just going for an upper class mystique

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was a theocrat trying to put into place a society that the vast majority in people didn't actually like. NPC's would rather have homosexual kings who at least have an ancient pedigree and allow for a certain level of pluralism than a Puritan republican who tries to turn the UK into Mega Geneva as a new kind of experiment

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any on the street Joe that even knows of or speaks highly of Cromwell also takes spiritual guidance from the puritans.
    Or just really hates Catholics.
    Or just some Irishman who can't let it go.
    Or just some English homosexual who's a monarchy nerd.

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