>cromwell Posted on May 23, 2023 by Anonymous >cromwell Was he a good ruler/king/tyrant? Tell me more about him.
God's own Englishman
Tyrant. Idolaters annoy me as much as him, but he should've left them alone.
Chudwell was a tyrantical hero.
He didn't kill enough of the Irish
puritanism is judaism for gentiles
Read "Oliver Cromwell and the rule of the puritans in England" by Charles firth
There is an excellent audiobook on librivox.org
That would be Christian identity/British Israelism as found in the Armstrong movement or among schizo internet wignats
A tool of Satan.
Dirk ever time we debate Cromwell you lose.
Everyone knows you are an Anarkiddie yet you lust over a satanic dictator who murdered his king, banned Christmas and got his head shoved on a spike by his former allies after his death.
His entire “commonwealth” lasted for less time than Charles reign.
>who murdered his king
Charles' own fault for being beyond unreasonable and not accepting to compromise after his first, or even second defeat.
That was parliament.
>got his head shoved on a spike by his former allies after his death.
So you think treason is cool?
>His entire “commonwealth” lasted for less time than Charles reign
It was strong while Cromwell lived. His successors being militarily unable is not his fault.
>Charles' own fault
That’s cope and you know, the only person who died due to their own fault was literally Cromwell for being to consumed by his own pride that he refused a cure.
>That was parliament
Come on we all know that parliament was dominated by the dictorial power of Cromwell. That’s also why after he was gone they brought Christmas back.
You are intellectually dishonest and you know it.
>So you think treason is cool
Of course not, that’s why I Cromwell was in the wrong and belongs alongside Judas.
>It was strong while Cromwell lived.
So strong that he died due to his own sinful pride and his state completely collapsed without him and immediately undid all his demonic actions.
Fuck anon, that’s a weird standard of strength.
Your seething is palpable.
From the day the Magna Carta Libertatum was signed, and earlier than that when William the conqueror acknowledged the ancestral rights of the English people, and earlier than that when the Anglosaxon kings were chosen by an assembly of their subjects, and even earlier than that still, when the first chieftains of the Saxons, Angles, Jutes and Frisians gave rings to the men of their table, the ancestral right of the people of England to rule themselves, under the guidance, not the domination, of a king, was laid and set. Charles I trying to destroy parliament in order to rule with no care for the opinions and thoughts of the men of the realm was a mistake, and him not recognizing this after being begged to come to his senses *several times* was unjustifiable. He needed to die for the message to get through that a king of England couldn't rule if not with the support of the English people.
>Your seething is palpable.
Obvious projection is obvious.
>but my cavemen Englishmen did X
The will of God was clearly in favour Monarchy and to murder the king, let alone abolish the monarchy was a clear violation of Gods law.
>He needed to die
A lie and you know it.
>for the message to get through that a king of England couldn't rule if not with the support of the English people.
So you replaced it with a Dictator that ruled without the support of the English people. And the government implemented in its place was clearly retarded and that’s why is collapsed immediately.
You have no leg to stand on Monarchy in England had ruled unbroken for millennia and your chimpout murdered an innocent mad and brought only temporary autism at the hands of an anti-Christian tyrant.
The people of England didn’t choose Cromwell and they certainly didn’t choose his policies.
>Cromwell was on balance a good figure in English history.
No he was a satanist and a murdered, we have the discussion every time Dirk and you always lose. The Bible clearly speaks in favour of monarchy and its abolishing by Cromwell in breach of Gods law.
>Rule by Cromwell dictatorship is a productive step towards a just voluntarist society
Dirk are you retarded?
>He was a satanist
This is why I ignore you every time you try and spat with me. You have nothing intelligent to say.
>This is why I ignore you every time
Good job addressing the arguments Dirk.
You know the Bible is on my side
You know Cromwell was a dictator and your support for him is hypocritical given your political leanings
You know that the system he instituted paved the way form more totalitarian states like the Jacobins in France.
You have NO bibical arguments for Cromwell, everything he did was immoral.
His murder of the Irish
His banning of Christmas
His treatment of Catholics
His murder of his king
The abolition of the monarchy
The only reason you don’t take my arguments seriously is you know you have NO actual counter-argument, Cromwell’s pride was his own bane and his commonwealth was such a clear affront to God that it collapsed instantly after his Death.
>>but my cavemen Englishmen did X
>You have no leg to stand on Monarchy in England had ruled unbroken for millennia
The selective appeal to tradition, good one there lad.
>The selective appeal to tradition
If a tradition is in conflict with Christianity then it has no value.
That’s isn’t a GOTTCHA, Aztec Human sacrifice might be traditional for the mesoamericans but I don’t give a fuck, human sacrifice is immoral.
Categorizing men of history as all good or all bad is for children
Say one good thing about King Herod or Haman
Now now Dirk you know you are misrepresenting my position and are being uncharitable.
I never said Cromwell was 100% evil. That’s why you are unable to link to a post where I say that. However, Cromwell on the balance is the bad guy in the English Civil War and your support for him is hypocritical given you Anarcho leanings.
Cromwell was on balance a good figure in English history. His ecclesiastical reforms were valid but tempered with tolerance. His republican aims were true as was the overthrow of the despot charles. He was a capable and effective military commander.
Rule by representative parliament is a productive step towards a just voluntarist society when it's done away from a greedy, wasteful and dictatorial monarch who brazenly disregards the established political process.
I'll say something good about Pilate who actually succeeded in killing my God, he voiced protest as he went along with it
Fuck off, Dirk.
He was the physical manifestation of the English love of liberty against the monarch of England being fatally misled by continentaloid delusions of authoritarianism.
>English love of liberty
He was a Judaiser
>IT WAS ALL DAAA JOOOOOOOOOZ
Don't you ever get tired of being pathetic?
>He was the physical manifestation of the English love of liberty
Confessor Cromwell is the greatest man in the history of Britain.
He did chuddy things in Ireland and I don't like him for it
I read online that the irish in Vegas were pissed when a hotel was renamed "the Cromwell" lol
They were just going for an upper class mystique
He was a theocrat trying to put into place a society that the vast majority in people didn't actually like. NPC's would rather have faggy kings who at least have an ancient pedigree and allow for a certain level of pluralism than a Puritan republican who tries to turn the UK into Mega Geneva as a new kind of experiment
Any on the street Joe that even knows of or speaks highly of Cromwell also takes spiritual guidance from the puritans.
Or just really hates Catholics.
Or just some Irishman who can't let it go.
Or just some English homosexual who's a monarchy nerd.