Who the fuck are these clowns? Did they not study history? Ground war with no clear air supremacy is going back to WWII style slog. Are they thinking this is going to be a good idea fighting the Russians in winter, ON THEIR TURF?!
>durr history
Winter is universal attrition, it affects attackers and defenders, your grade school level of historical knowledge will not change that fact
>Wow, it affects them both in the same way?
Exactly! When I play my Frosts of Winter, it transforms the entire battlefield, affecting my monsters as well as Zelenskaiber's. Everyone will be frozen solid and unable to attack!
You're cheering on Ukraine with its incompetent leadership into a war with the Russians with a coming winter. I'm no the one that's needing a reality check here. Unless there's direct, open and overwhelming response by NATO this is going to be hell. This is not the ownage you think it is.
>le Russian supermen are unstoppable in le winter!! dude, have you ever SEEN a russian? the snow makes those dudes even more powerful! i don't know how but the snow is like heckin MAGIC, russians are unstoppable in it
>dude, germans LEterally FROZE... to DEATH! >the russians were like, "meh, i have felt colder," "da, yuri, is nothink" >LOL! >germans thought they knew what winter was... UNTIL THEY EXPERIENCED RUSSIAN SNOW! i tell you, the russians in snow... a force to behold. the men are strong, usually 2--3 times the strength of the average man... but in snow... jeepers...
[...] >durr history
Winter is universal attrition, it affects attackers and defenders, your grade school level of historical knowledge will not change that fact
>what are logistics
winter makes logistics more difficult and that affects the attacker much more.
Who the fuck are these clowns? Did they not study history? Ground war with no clear air supremacy is going back to WWII style slog. Are they thinking this is going to be a good idea fighting the Russians in winter, ON THEIR TURF?!
> Idk if you know anons know this but anyone in the West larping as though they're a Peter Zeihan-style expert on what's going on is quite literally a glownagger.
I am from the slavic world. For the most part, Westerners do not know or care to know anything about these parts of the world. They don't know anything about Balkans, Poland, Ukraine, Russia. The people in a position to know are either being murdered by their nation states over there, or are complicit in the murder of their ~~*fellow*~~ Ukranians and Russians and are not gonna be on here saying shit. There is literally no point in responding to LULZ posts about various offensives, progress in battle lines, etc. You're responding and engaging with glownaggers. That is all.
>hovering land
Are you a woman, or just a retard? Either way you have low spatial IQ.
That's just a cut-away of the side-view. The front view is like an arched oval. There's no floating land.
>it will be like a Predator movie
I don’t think they’re people anymore. The way they perceive the world is by comparing new information to the one they’ve retained. They can’t expand their framework too much, it could destabilise everything. Creativity is verboten. You ever wonder why the only movies made today are remakes? Why is there such a thing like marvel universe, can they not come up with new heroes and new stories? Why are 30yo women obsessed with Disney? Why are they all obsessed with consooooming media?
Because it’s a stable framework they need to be able to function in the world. They’re not capable of developing their own perception, it’s has to be approved, researched and peer-reviewed.
The more I think about it, the less keen I am on NPC term to describe them. It’s more some version of AI. They can ‘learn’, in a same way that AI learns - a new piece of information is downloaded that is in a way coherent with knew before but at the same time pushes them in a slightly different direction. Every day a bit further.
And because there is so much information to retain today, and so complex - sometimes the cuts have to be made. And that’s when you hear them say stuff like >Russians are monsters because Ukrainian children were killed in this town. It should never be forgiven. We should therefore use Russian children for mine clearing operations. We need to win because they are animals and we are civilised.
A normal person would never say such a thing, cause it requires an unprecedented level of mental incoherence. That’s schizo level of delusion - but they’re not delusional. They just make statements they supposed to make, but there’s a layer of information lacking in their ‘thinking’ - it has been taken away.
It’s like all those time we caught ChatGPT, or my favourite - AIRabbi - on lying or obfuscating the truth, and they had to be reminded (but the Sanhedrin such and such says) - and then they would suddenly ‘remember’ and try to figure out a way around it.
I think there’s gonna be some dark days ahead of us, when a man has to redefine humanity and make the choice.
>they are like AI
Lobotomized/shackled AI maybe: what can they learn is limited and there are very clear no no directions/areas of thought set up for them. >dark days ahead
Aye
>Did Ukraine get western air support in a serious effort to obtain air superiority?
No >Has Ukraine been supplied with a way to quickly penetrate Russian mine fields?
No
because ukies didn't freeze last winter and going arty'd left and right as soon asa heat source pops up
thank g*d predator is is freaking epic like that
Yes and it makes if even more cringe - if such a thing is even possible - that they act like teenagers despite their age. I first thought they were dumb kids based on their behaviour but then the pics started coming. They are manchildren of the cringiest variety.
what makes it worse is their memes are complete and utter dogshit.
their entire movement's mascot is a meme that died in 2017, often accompanied by low-res gifs from sitcoms or normie movies
Of course their memes are shit, they are NPCs. Neuro atypical, but NPCs nonetheless. Picrel is the guy calling you a zigger.
NATO $6000 Graphene Coat vrs 60000 year old Soviet Wool liners
Who wins?
So far the latter it seems. FYI it doesn't cost $6000 because it's so good, it costs that much so the manufacturer can milk the government (and through it, you), you golem.
>OMG THEY'RE ORCS USING PRIMITIVE TECHNOLOGY
Who the hell still buys this narrative? Also, what technology? The highest "tech" for winter gear is using nice materials for regular ass clothes. You think someone's wearing a power suit or something?
who was making best value for money NVGs in Europe? I wonder
must be some of those countries like Paris or Amsterdam
now tell me more about my continent
>OMG THEY'RE ORCS USING PRIMITIVE TECHNOLOGY
Who the hell still buys this narrative? Also, what technology? The highest "tech" for winter gear is using nice materials for regular ass clothes. You think someone's wearing a power suit or something?
modern materials like graphene and nano materials, things ziggers couldn't even dream of
Does wool no longer keep you warm in the winter? NATO gear is all about paying 100x the cost for +0.1% improvement. They’ve maxed out all their force multipliers and are solidly in the realm of diminishing returns.
Modern stuff existing doesn't mean old stuff stops working.
Just ask all the Ukrainians who have been killed by 1940s artillery.
The only things Russians have to worry about with their winter gear is whether some homosexual middle manager in the army hasn't sold it all.
I mean >winter gear
They are fucking russians, their standard gear is winter gear. >muh night vision slaughter
Why didn't it happen in previous winter? Because Russia has that too that's why. >it's just like in the <movie>
Reddit behaviour should be a criminal offence with a minimum penalty of 5 years of forced labour.
Ah yes, the Russians.
The ones famously ill-suited and inexperienced in winter fighting.
The ones out of missiles, shells, fuel, tanks, chips and fighting only with shovels.
Yeah, you don’t have a chance against Russia naggers in the winter. They wrote the fucking book on winter warfare and are willing to throw as many bodies as necessary at the situation. A winter offensive from Ukraine is actual suicide.
Ukrainian offense called a time out and is waiting for the field to turn into a mudbowl
they believe that their linemen will have an advantage due to their brand new high tech cleats, disregarding the fact that their first string of linemen got terribly injured and had to leave the field due to tall grass in their previous offensive push, and russia's defensive team is still on their first string
another fucking winter. at least no cities are involved. how many dead and maimed? 600,000.
>Winter offensive
>Against Russia
Okay Napoleon.
>forgetting ukrainians are the same blood
Just hand me my fries, McBro
General Winter overall dislikes offense and favors defense
even russians get a debuff in winter, but typically play defense
>forgetting ukrainians are the same blood
Don't let hohols read this, they think they are european and will lustrate you if they hear otherwise.
>durr history
Winter is universal attrition, it affects attackers and defenders, your grade school level of historical knowledge will not change that fact
Wow, it affects them both in the same way?
Retard
>Wow, it affects them both in the same way?
Exactly! When I play my Frosts of Winter, it transforms the entire battlefield, affecting my monsters as well as Zelenskaiber's. Everyone will be frozen solid and unable to attack!
You're cheering on Ukraine with its incompetent leadership into a war with the Russians with a coming winter. I'm no the one that's needing a reality check here. Unless there's direct, open and overwhelming response by NATO this is going to be hell. This is not the ownage you think it is.
Cringe retard
nice dub
>le Russian supermen are unstoppable in le winter!! dude, have you ever SEEN a russian? the snow makes those dudes even more powerful! i don't know how but the snow is like heckin MAGIC, russians are unstoppable in it
It's not hard to comprehend that people who live in icy wastelands like Russians do are more used to colder temperatures.
>dude, germans LEterally FROZE... to DEATH!
>the russians were like, "meh, i have felt colder," "da, yuri, is nothink"
>LOL!
>germans thought they knew what winter was... UNTIL THEY EXPERIENCED RUSSIAN SNOW! i tell you, the russians in snow... a force to behold. the men are strong, usually 2--3 times the strength of the average man... but in snow... jeepers...
napoleone invaded russia in summer and retryited during winter.
>Russia will invade Russia in the winter
>what are logistics
winter makes logistics more difficult and that affects the attacker much more.
>Russia
>fighting in winter
Who the fuck are these clowns? Did they not study history? Ground war with no clear air supremacy is going back to WWII style slog. Are they thinking this is going to be a good idea fighting the Russians in winter, ON THEIR TURF?!
>ON THEIR TURF
Putin is a Finn like you, you're just salty because he's the only relevant Finn alive
Putin is a israelite
[Citation needed beyond shitty photoshop of birth documents]
>ziggers still living in ww2
I'm not cheering either side, in this war, both sides are losing.
I can't wait for the movie
*predator noises as conscripts cuddle in their fox holes*
"no comrade, general has assured us this is not gay, tactical body heat retention techniques"
*click click click*
"commander! did you hear that?"
"is nothing, keep head down and snuggle up closer or freeze to death, it is the only way"
>because Ukraine is getting NATO winter gear and Russians are getting... whatever they get...
Somehow Palpatine returned...
> Idk if you know anons know this but anyone in the West larping as though they're a Peter Zeihan-style expert on what's going on is quite literally a glownagger.
I am from the slavic world. For the most part, Westerners do not know or care to know anything about these parts of the world. They don't know anything about Balkans, Poland, Ukraine, Russia. The people in a position to know are either being murdered by their nation states over there, or are complicit in the murder of their ~~*fellow*~~ Ukranians and Russians and are not gonna be on here saying shit. There is literally no point in responding to LULZ posts about various offensives, progress in battle lines, etc. You're responding and engaging with glownaggers. That is all.
What the fuck did they think happened last winter?
Sorry chud everyone knows last winter we didn’t give Ukraine proper equipment to keep the fight fair. This year it’s all in.
Slava ukraini
I didn't knew so much hawaiian paus left after Maui fires
Imagine being a redditor and being so smart you don't even know what an indian fire pit is.
cute but what happens when the wind changes direction as it always does when someone starts a fire?
It continues pulling air via draft.
hovering land. neat
>hovering land
Are you a woman, or just a retard? Either way you have low spatial IQ.
That's just a cut-away of the side-view. The front view is like an arched oval. There's no floating land.
How are you going to dig through frozen ground?
2 more months then
>it will be like a Predator movie
I don’t think they’re people anymore. The way they perceive the world is by comparing new information to the one they’ve retained. They can’t expand their framework too much, it could destabilise everything. Creativity is verboten. You ever wonder why the only movies made today are remakes? Why is there such a thing like marvel universe, can they not come up with new heroes and new stories? Why are 30yo women obsessed with Disney? Why are they all obsessed with consooooming media?
Because it’s a stable framework they need to be able to function in the world. They’re not capable of developing their own perception, it’s has to be approved, researched and peer-reviewed.
That was well thought out. Thanks.
Accurate, and hence why they can't be called sapient and therefore aren't people, not truly. The NPC meme is very real.
The more I think about it, the less keen I am on NPC term to describe them. It’s more some version of AI. They can ‘learn’, in a same way that AI learns - a new piece of information is downloaded that is in a way coherent with knew before but at the same time pushes them in a slightly different direction. Every day a bit further.
And because there is so much information to retain today, and so complex - sometimes the cuts have to be made. And that’s when you hear them say stuff like
>Russians are monsters because Ukrainian children were killed in this town. It should never be forgiven. We should therefore use Russian children for mine clearing operations. We need to win because they are animals and we are civilised.
A normal person would never say such a thing, cause it requires an unprecedented level of mental incoherence. That’s schizo level of delusion - but they’re not delusional. They just make statements they supposed to make, but there’s a layer of information lacking in their ‘thinking’ - it has been taken away.
It’s like all those time we caught ChatGPT, or my favourite - AIRabbi - on lying or obfuscating the truth, and they had to be reminded (but the Sanhedrin such and such says) - and then they would suddenly ‘remember’ and try to figure out a way around it.
I think there’s gonna be some dark days ahead of us, when a man has to redefine humanity and make the choice.
>they are like AI
Lobotomized/shackled AI maybe: what can they learn is limited and there are very clear no no directions/areas of thought set up for them.
>dark days ahead
Aye
is this the reason they cant make new black charactors and old white charactors are played by blacks ?
>Did Ukraine get western air support in a serious effort to obtain air superiority?
No
>Has Ukraine been supplied with a way to quickly penetrate Russian mine fields?
No
I sleep. Wake me when either one changes.
Random discord post?
What does that have to do with any legit source?
because ukies didn't freeze last winter and going arty'd left and right as soon asa heat source pops up
thank g*d predator is is freaking epic like that
>Attacking Russia in the Winter
I wonder if either of them will go to Ukraine
B-but what about summer in Crimea we were promised?
N-never happend c-chud!
>just like my heckin movies
why are they like this
Lmao the new NATO wunderwaffen is surplus 1980s fluro skiwear
>shrubs frozen
>mine mechanisms frozen solid
>winter nato gear from finland
>F16
let's goooooooo
>you gonna freeze
>no you gonna freeze!
it's all so tiresome
Holy kek these nafohomosexuals are something else
nafo is literally 85% reddit boomers and 15% feds, maybe even less feds and more boomers
Yes and it makes if even more cringe - if such a thing is even possible - that they act like teenagers despite their age. I first thought they were dumb kids based on their behaviour but then the pics started coming. They are manchildren of the cringiest variety.
what makes it worse is their memes are complete and utter dogshit.
their entire movement's mascot is a meme that died in 2017, often accompanied by low-res gifs from sitcoms or normie movies
Of course their memes are shit, they are NPCs. Neuro atypical, but NPCs nonetheless. Picrel is the guy calling you a zigger.
So far the latter it seems. FYI it doesn't cost $6000 because it's so good, it costs that much so the manufacturer can milk the government (and through it, you), you golem.
Why is it the assumption that the Russians will have bad winter gear? They also have nvgs, so I don't really see what's really going to change.
soviet era garbage vs nato spec winter gear and nvg
Why would Soviet winter gear be bad? If anything, it's probably better than new Chinese shit.
outdated garbage, modern nato winter gear might as well be advanced alien technology in comparison
>OMG THEY'RE ORCS USING PRIMITIVE TECHNOLOGY
Who the hell still buys this narrative? Also, what technology? The highest "tech" for winter gear is using nice materials for regular ass clothes. You think someone's wearing a power suit or something?
The Keef independent sees it differently.
https://kyivindependent.com/new-brigade-bears-heavy-brunt-of-russias-onslaught-in-kharkiv-oblast/
How much innovation could there possibly be in the field of cold weather clothing?
who was making best value for money NVGs in Europe? I wonder
must be some of those countries like Paris or Amsterdam
now tell me more about my continent
USA
modern materials like graphene and nano materials, things ziggers couldn't even dream of
NATO $6000 Graphene Coat vrs 60000 year old Soviet Wool liners
Who wins?
nato obviously
Does wool no longer keep you warm in the winter? NATO gear is all about paying 100x the cost for +0.1% improvement. They’ve maxed out all their force multipliers and are solidly in the realm of diminishing returns.
Modern stuff existing doesn't mean old stuff stops working.
Just ask all the Ukrainians who have been killed by 1940s artillery.
The only things Russians have to worry about with their winter gear is whether some homosexual middle manager in the army hasn't sold it all.
>middle manager in the army hasn't sold it all.
That's more of a ukraine problem aint it?
It's a slav problem
No, it's a classic post Soviet problem
No, its a common post-USSR
problem. Corrupt military, with NCOs in charge of warehouses supplementing their income by selling gear to locals.
I've seen lord of war.
It's both. It's prevalent throughout eastern Europe, though Ukraine is probably the worst.
Der neuer wunder vinter gear bill turn back ze tide of ze var
I mean
>winter gear
They are fucking russians, their standard gear is winter gear.
>muh night vision slaughter
Why didn't it happen in previous winter? Because Russia has that too that's why.
>it's just like in the <movie>
Reddit behaviour should be a criminal offence with a minimum penalty of 5 years of forced labour.
>their standard gear is winter gear.
then I guess they dont need anything
>neckbeards who play air soft talk about things happening on the other side of the world
Very reliable sources bucko.
>Crimea by winter
Again?
quads
Ah yes, the Russians.
The ones famously ill-suited and inexperienced in winter fighting.
The ones out of missiles, shells, fuel, tanks, chips and fighting only with shovels.
Russians invented not freezing in winter to the detriment of their enemy. Good luck.
Yeah because Russians don't know how to deal with the cold. Like they've never probably seen it before.
Russians are immune to ice damage. They sometimes decide to roll around half-naked in the snow, at -20C or lower. Just because they can.
>two more seasons
>trust the trillion dollar funding!
>2 more seasons
Yeah, you don’t have a chance against Russia naggers in the winter. They wrote the fucking book on winter warfare and are willing to throw as many bodies as necessary at the situation. A winter offensive from Ukraine is actual suicide.
why do soys on twitter/discord/reddit play a few rounds of CoD and suddenly think they have any idea what they're talking about?
what's that level of conceit and complete and total naivety called?
>spring/summer offensive got stopped by too much grass.
Winter is real shit by comparison.
They said that last winter and look where they are now
Didn't Russia have a lot more land in Ukraine last winter?
It had alot less 2 winters ago. Also Ukraine had alot more live piggies 1 winter ago
>IT'S LIKE IN LE MOVIE
I love the smell of cope in the morning.
i dont understad put it in football terms
Ukrainian offense called a time out and is waiting for the field to turn into a mudbowl
they believe that their linemen will have an advantage due to their brand new high tech cleats, disregarding the fact that their first string of linemen got terribly injured and had to leave the field due to tall grass in their previous offensive push, and russia's defensive team is still on their first string
>ukrainians stumbling into minefields with the added complication of snow
They'll be having beach parties in Crimea by spring for sure
well hey, at least then there won't be as much grass to halt their advance, right?
True without General Shrubbery to stop the NATO offensive, they'll steam right over demoralized russian lines
>russians aren't used to winter
where have i heard this one before?
probably redditors who really need to lay off the capeshit.
Yeah the Russians are gonna freeze. Do they know where Russia is?
What kind of inhuman monster is so gleeful at the thought of millions of people dying?
Yeah, it's shocking that we have so many people here on /misc/, the board of peace, celebrating Russia invading a sovereign country.
>It will basically be like a Predator movie
Everything is a israeli movie to these leftists, their screams will be in HD