And the AI will be dependent on models designed by economists, which are necessarily flawed, per Gödel’s incompleteness theorem and also just human stupidity.
An AI is not a god. It is not a wizard. Saying "DUDE! AI will definitely solve [problem]" is just the modern futurist version of "Nuclear Energy/genetic engineering/nanotech will definitely solve [problem]" - i.e. it just means "I have no idea how to solve the problem and I don't understand [techno buzzword], but I want to sound credible enough that you'll give me money/respect".
No, because value is subjective. A computer cannot know if A or B wants a scarce resource more. A computer also can't make people produce what it says to produce. If I make pies and the computer says we need a thousand pies what do I care? You need to trade me something I want to get me to produce pies.
But if you want to take a crack at it there's nothing stopping you. Write a program and ask people to produce what it tells them to produce and accept what it doles out. if you can see why nobody would sign on to that bullshit you can see why planned economies don't work.
You could use machine learning so that the computer learns when something doesn't work. Maybe it won't come up with a command economy, but it would end up somewhere interesting.
99 times out of 100 it'll be really bad. the machine will only know if something doesn't work if you tell it so bias is still baked in. if anything, using ml for this sort of stuff will only explicitly quantify the inequality already baked into everything
well feelings actually are a big factor in the economy, sorry. People make decisions based on what they want and they sell stocks when they lose confidence in the economy.
no because humans do not consume rationally and because capitalism only successfully prevents shortages by massively overproducing and wasting billions of dollars of goods a year
It could easily, obviously.
Economics is very easy and economists are mentally moronic.
Certain things could be done by humans but just building a input matrix is trivial, there are 10,000 industries and 25 million products. Most of these products are the same (1 million companies in 10,000 industries). There are 250,000 actual products. There are a million stores in America with ten products.
Calculating 10,000 products is nothing, a video game does that. The data collection is a bigger problem than the comparison.
His is of course mentally moronic and will disagree, and the post will get ignored or get a shitpost reply.
depends
does it try and meet demand exactly or does it overproduce? because the only way for a command economy too function is with a high amount of overproduction of everything.
No?
Its a big calculator, how do you expect it to "run" economy?
It might help in planning though.
The AI will be trained on economics, that’s where it’ll get its data and how it’ll based its decisions
And the AI will be dependent on models designed by economists, which are necessarily flawed, per Gödel’s incompleteness theorem and also just human stupidity.
An AI is not a god. It is not a wizard. Saying "DUDE! AI will definitely solve [problem]" is just the modern futurist version of "Nuclear Energy/genetic engineering/nanotech will definitely solve [problem]" - i.e. it just means "I have no idea how to solve the problem and I don't understand [techno buzzword], but I want to sound credible enough that you'll give me money/respect".
Who's inputting the data?
the entire public on a one person one vote basis
No, because value is subjective. A computer cannot know if A or B wants a scarce resource more. A computer also can't make people produce what it says to produce. If I make pies and the computer says we need a thousand pies what do I care? You need to trade me something I want to get me to produce pies.
But if you want to take a crack at it there's nothing stopping you. Write a program and ask people to produce what it tells them to produce and accept what it doles out. if you can see why nobody would sign on to that bullshit you can see why planned economies don't work.
You could use machine learning so that the computer learns when something doesn't work. Maybe it won't come up with a command economy, but it would end up somewhere interesting.
99 times out of 100 it'll be really bad. the machine will only know if something doesn't work if you tell it so bias is still baked in. if anything, using ml for this sort of stuff will only explicitly quantify the inequality already baked into everything
Your feelings are not a part of the economic calculation, sorry
a board of oldgays will never be a replacement for market forces
>what do you need video games for? go outside haha yep *sip*
well feelings actually are a big factor in the economy, sorry. People make decisions based on what they want and they sell stocks when they lose confidence in the economy.
what if no stocks? what then?
only if it had perfect information which is practically impossible. If we had perfect information then the economy would be solved
>Could a super computer run a command economy?
Better than any human.
>Could a super computer successfully run a command economy?
No.
no because humans do not consume rationally and because capitalism only successfully prevents shortages by massively overproducing and wasting billions of dollars of goods a year
Nah
It could easily, obviously.
Economics is very easy and economists are mentally moronic.
Certain things could be done by humans but just building a input matrix is trivial, there are 10,000 industries and 25 million products. Most of these products are the same (1 million companies in 10,000 industries). There are 250,000 actual products. There are a million stores in America with ten products.
Calculating 10,000 products is nothing, a video game does that. The data collection is a bigger problem than the comparison.
His is of course mentally moronic and will disagree, and the post will get ignored or get a shitpost reply.
depends
does it try and meet demand exactly or does it overproduce? because the only way for a command economy too function is with a high amount of overproduction of everything.
yes, thats why cybersyn had to be shut down
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn