Convince me that Roman Empire was not just a glorified and lucky warlord empire.

Convince me that Roman Empire was not just a glorified and lucky warlord empire.
>are there any Roman inventions that were as influental as Greek or Mesopotamian ones? Even later Europe (medieval) seem to be more productive in terms of tech than the Romans were in their height.
>how even Roman cities were advanced so much compared to Persian ones?
>Why Roman Empire is not a cheap copy of Ancient Greek art?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Logistics
    >political organization
    >construction
    >military strategy and tactics
    >administering an empire of 30 million people

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Mongolians did that too
      organization
      Oh hey guess who did that too?

      only viable and good response I have seen from romaboos (including

      Search on the internet dimmwit.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_technology

      For once the Romans were master builders: the first city to reach one million of inhabitants was Rome. The Han empire still had wooden palace.

      ), but still the Persians wre building cities too. What Romans did slightly better is innovating the Hellenistic styl and improving it. Without Hellenes, Romans had nothing.
      strategy and tactics
      Guess who did that too?
      an empire of 30 million people
      Guess who did that too, it is not an invention

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The urbanisation, increase in living standards, creation and proliferation of their legal system, Romanization, administration, mass construction projects.
        >lucky
        The Romans were not 'lucky'. They succeeded because their society and culture created the environment for it to happen. There is no luck involved in having, and actively maintain a culture of complete militarism and intense aristocratic competition and allegiance.

        >What Romans did slightly better is innovating the Hellenistic styl and improving it
        The Greeks did not remotely do the same thing as the Romans in construction projects. You'd basically be comparing small scattered projects to multiple massive ones spanning the entire Empire.
        >Guess who did that too, it is not an invention
        If you mean in the act of administration, then nobody is particularly special in it. The Romans created the largest, and most comprehensive administration of the ancient world and would only be matched by medieval China. These administrative practices would remain in the West forever, and they were exclusively a Roman creation.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Roman administrative structure was lost together with rome
          The whole fall of rome is the result of the collapse of thsi administration
          The west (whatever that is?) did not retained it. There is a massive discontinuity.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Search on the internet dimmwit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_technology

    For once the Romans were master builders: the first city to reach one million of inhabitants was Rome. The Han empire still had wooden palace.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So what others did it first? If they couldn't expand and project it to higher highs and spread it further?

    Do you think Greeks invented statues? Had the Egyptians not been doing similar equivalent things for thousands of years before them?

    The success of Western & Southern Europe (i.e. the richest and most successful places in Human history since Rome) throughout the centuries is ENTIRELY down to Rome.

    There is not one place in Europe that the Romans didn't touch that was in anyway rich and successful until very recently in time E.g. Norway, Ireland. Unlike France, England, Spain and Germany.

    Rome was a miracle.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      jsut change some words and this can be a Bantu cope.
      again, what Romans have invented? We all know Pythagoras and Archimedes of Greeks, and all the philosophy of Greks which brought us many idead that Romans also used.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        How can that possibly be adapted to Bantus?

        Anyway, what use are inventions if they are not spread? How would Aqueducts, Cities, Bridges, Roads, Civilisation itself etc etc etc be useful to humanity if they were not spread? If they remained in isolation?

        Inventing something is only the first part of the puzzle, getting it out in the world is equally as difficult.

        If Thomas Edison invented the lightbulb but only used it in his own home, what would be the point in that?

        Even if you do claim that they didn't invent anything (which they did) you can't deny they improved upon the inventions of others.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Greek this, Greek that.
        All the philosophy (most of which is bollocks) wasn't much use when Rome invaded and killed every single man in Corinth. Greeks had a big head start and the original latin tribes had links to greek colonies on the italian coast. but the Romans soon overtook the greeks in almost every aspects outside of philosophy (which was, again, bollocks)

        Caligula built giant pleasure barges, nero had a rotating banquet hall, the logistics of some of the shows in the colosseum are marvels that the greeks couldn't even sniff at.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was a glorified and lucky AGRARIAN empire for one.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Roman Empire lasted a really long time and wasn’t contingent upon a single charismatic warlord not dying.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much taught us what an EMPIRE actually is.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Romans were just really exceptional at engineering and organization and were playing mop-up after they defeated Carthage. They didn't have any opponents of the same type after that. But what they did have was the will and means to routinely wage total war on all of their enemies until they were made to wholly submit, not something that can be said of every domineering empire.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Rome have been extremely romanticised by Northern Europeans because it’s the only civilisation they can relate to and greeks to a lower extent because they’re european

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Rome never did anything of note really. Its more of historical fanfiction.
    The only thing you can credit to rome is spreading some administrative systems and putting masonry in fashion maybe, you vould also credit then the church althiugh that is more of a israeli invention.

    Thats about it really.

    Rome had some influence in western europe and western europe becane rich via colonization since they had coast to the atlantic sea.
    This is the only reason we even know what a rome is.
    If mongolians reached britain we would be talking about genghis

    Romans did nothing notorious or special, most of their infrastructure got damaged and eventually erased once it fell, its knowledge was more than anything ornamental.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Rome never did anything of note really.

      Then why does every historian disagree with you?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Historians are biased, need to talk about incels favorite larp to eat and rome left a lot of self-indulgent texts to allow them

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Rome never did anything of note really
      ^this c**ts never heard of Christianity. Moron.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >you could also credit the church
        Learn to read. Disabled Black person.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    > Even later Europe (medieval) seem to be more productive in terms of tech than the Romans were in their height
    Its easier to build on top of what the Classical Romans had already done.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Romans were generally great at adopting other peoples technology or tactics then adapting and improving it for their own use.

    >Adopted Greek phalanx later modifying it into standard Legions.
    >Adopted Carthaginian naval tactics and ship construction later beating them at their own game.
    >Took inspiration from Iberian barbarians to design the gladius.

    These are just a few examples. What the Romans truly excelled at though was infrastructure. No other empire in antiquity can rival the Roman road system. The Legions at their height weren't just soldiers they were engineers and construction workers.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Romans were a civilization Germanics extinguished, nothing else.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You are moronic.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah OP I'm sure you know more than everybody who has studied the Romans for the last two thousand years.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Romans weren't great
    They just left a bunch of texts that comparatively make up a lotbof antiquity literature.
    This allows historians to study it is rather that rome gets a spotlight because we retained more texts from them than rome being anything super notorious

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Literally all empires are 'lucky' warlords.

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