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Why would anyone graduate with less than 4.0 GPA? College is easy as shit.
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>he didn’t challenge himself with tough but interesting courses
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>instead of studying i spent the hours i should’ve devoted to studying to masturbation, porn and video games instead, so i end up with a low GPA and all my classes seemed to be nearly impossible.
who profits from porn and video games?-
>wasted college years putting his nose into the books when could have spent them getting laid and socializing while still graduating with a 3.5 and get just as good of a job
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>graduating with a 3.5 and get just as good of a job
t. not a doctor-
Most premeds do bullshit piss easy undergrad degrees like philosophy or biology.
They’d get raped in the butthole if they had to maintain a 4.0 in any engineering course.
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>Most premeds do bullshit piss easy undergrad degrees like philosophy or biology.
All pre-meds pre-reqs necessitate gen-chem 1/2, physics 1/2, organic chem 1/2, bio-chem, genetics, and other biology for majors classes, all of which you need to graduate with at least a 3.7 or you’re not even competitive GPA wise. Then you need to be in at least the 80th percentile on the MCAT. I’m graduating with a 4.0 in non-science classes but that’s just sort of expected.-
Oh cool, so basically they need the easiest courses in a chemical engineering curriculum with no math higher than algebra. Thanks for proving my point.
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whatever you need to tell yourself brainlet. People think engineers are smart too kiddo, don’t worry.
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>People think engineers are smart too kiddo,
Smart people don’t think this
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>t. not a doctor
Doctors make people choose between being alive but in debt, or dying but financially sound. Frankly a degree means nothing towards the quality of person and how they see the world. Doctors shouldn’t be academic drones, they should be healthcare professionals. Instead they’re a tool of destruction in our society
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I was very busy having sex with your mother.
>who profits from porn and video games?
me
also still graduated, scrote. plus, my network (my parents’ network kek) allowed me to get hired immediately with tons of opportunity for promotion. I basically manage a bunch of eggheads like you, now get to work or no tendies in the mean time me and the other guys are going to drink in the conference room.
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I did not read any of the crap. But what is the deal with that Ferengi frog?
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Not all of us majored in gender studies anon. Some of us take actual courses
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stop spending endless hours masturbaing to internet porn every single day and you’ll have an easy time with school too
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Where did all this projection come from, anon
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I literally can’t stop.
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Explain to me the bioeng/eecs/business triple majors at Berkeley who get 4.0s? I know like five such people. They are also very well adjusted, charming, pleasant people.
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>overachiever school has overachievers
News at 11
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It’s so jarring when you see them. You might struggle with a problem set and this guy is doing this plus lab work and a startup without breaking a sweat. Is this what IQ is about?
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Nah. Undergrad is full of neat little puzzle box problems and not indicative of how you apply your knowledge in the real world. There are tons of people (women especially) who sail through the curriculum and slam into a wall once they have to tackle open ended problems with no definitive solution.
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This feels like cope. The only explanation I have is that they have been doing rigorous academic work from a young age, but a few of them are transfers who didn’t learn calculus until they were 24.
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It’s not cope because anyone of any real merit is going to get a masters+ which requires some actual critical thinking. I’m speaking specifically to undergrad, which is almost completely standardized even with upper tier institutions.
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So I should stop trying to do original work in undergrad and just memorize/blast out hw? And save my creativity for graduate school? I always try to find really original solutions to tough problems, or even essays, and it’s exhausting tbqh.
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GPA has diminishing returns. Unless you are just naturally breezing through the material and it doesn’t matter to you, you are better off doing literally ANYTHING else except GPAmaxxxing above 3.5
Shit, even partying with your friends is a better use of time at that point.
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Completely disagree. The whole point is Gpa-maxing unless you happen to stumble across a company startup and want to leave to seriously set it up with funding.
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A 3.5 with good letters of rec, internships, clubs, etc is going to beat out a 4.0 grad school applicant every time. Unless you are just a rockstar who can get the 4.0 effortlessly and still do all the other shit there is no reason to invest in more coursework past 3.5.
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The guy who gets the 4.0 also gets all those, and he gets better ones.
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That’s not true at all. I knew tons of dudes who did nothing but fixate on GPA and coursework and had nothing else to show for it.
If you are that guy who can manage a 4.0 AND do all that other shit then good on you but that’s not the norm. People only have 24 hours in the day no matter how smart you are.
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I know people who did all of this and they are breezing through. It takes them less time. They don’t go and stare at their book uselessly at the library. I’m not sure what they do but it works for them.
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In my very shitter opinion, those people know how they learn and they know it very well to the point where they can study without making it look like they study. Yes they are probably talented but they also have a system that works for them. College forces you to develop that system but some folks got it figured out before they even show up.
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How do you get that? I used to get 100/100s by doing practice tests, reading the textbook cover to cover, and discussing the topics with classmates at study groups. Doing that for 4+ courses a semester is like 80 hours of work a week. It’s hard to fit it in but I suppose that’s what it takes.
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And I assure you they (and usually their parents) are all good at giving top as well. You don’t think they got in due to their intelligence do you?
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>bioeng/eecs/business triple majors at Berkeley who get 4.0s?
Um freaking meme majors that take the easiest possible courseloads
When I was at MIT I knew a girl who was a dual major bioengineering (what we call a course 6/7) and writing. She was dumb as a sack of hammers, and only managed to get by because she was in classes with lots of group projects, all the time
I did most of my work by myself, on my own, and while she’s at Harvard wasting time as a PhD student getting paid $30k a year I’m a millionaire -
IQ. IQ is literally the only thing in life that matters. I studied 6-8 hours a day (yes, legit going over the material, visiting ALL the lectures etc.) and failed 3 subjects in almost 6 years and am now a 30 year old with almost ZERO working experience and ONLY 35 credit points. I worked harder than probably the best student who ever lived in the history of mankind but all of that doesn’t matter cause my IQ is in the low 100s.
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post your transcript or stfu. I can’t believe anyone on this board anymore. You all graduated with 4.0s but somehow can’t find jobs
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>muh jerbz
what kind of an idiot considers becoming a paid servant an achievement?-
the same kind that think a gpa is an achievement
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woke af
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I "lose", or rather invest about 2 hours a day to spend with my kid where I can’t study. Also I have a few other responsibilities and am too lazy/scrotebrained to learn many things by heart. Never really tried tbqh. I think I’m doing fine though since I do network a bit and try to retain the things that are actually applicable in real life (there aren’t that many though unfortunately)
Self employment is also basically a job. If you aren’t self employed, working in a family company to further your dynasty or aspiring to either one you should not be considered as homo sapiens imho
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>If you aren’t self employed, working in a family company to further your dynasty or aspiring to either one you should not be considered as homo sapiens imho
Hard disagree. If we are going to strip away peoples humanity then I have a different measure. There is one goal that should exist in the back of every humans mind. It was a goal thrusted on us, but its importance must trump all others. For the sake of all existence.We must get off this god damned rock. There is no other goal that could be more important at the monet. At least until we have solid proof of alien life we must work towards this goal. There won’t be another chance for intelligence to evolve after us, so if we go extinct it will be game over. Probably for our galaxy, possibly for the observable universe, and maybe even the whole universe.
We can not afford to let this happen. If you do not recognise the importance of this goal then you shouldn’t call yourself holo sapien.
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>We can not afford to let this happen.
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>we must go to space
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>theres too many people on earth, not enough space left, we have to go to mars
well is seems like theres still plenty of space to me, but what about irrigating a desert first before going for such an unnecessarily ostentatious solution like space travel out of a hollywood soience fiction comic book movie?
>noooo you cant just irrigate a desert, we need to go to mars
ok how about living on platforms in the ocean
>noooooo mars
harnessing freely available geothermal every and living in antarctica?
>MARS
nuclear powered highrise indoor farming?
>what part of mars don’t you understand?
living in the sky on an zeppelin?
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE EARTH ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MEEEEE
>I WANNA LIVE IN A MARVEL COMIX MOVIE-
How about when we nuke the fuck out of ourselves and render most of the world unliveable because some world leader hit the shiny red button?
What’s your solution for that?
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People who understand the master-servant dichotomy and realize working for somebody else isn’t slavery. Stolen from another anon in a previous thread:
In truth, your perspective on things, the words you use to describe them and how you view, and feel, the words you use, can make the situation be either good or bad.
To illustrate
>there are two men
>one is served with everything, the other serves everything
>the first says "you’re just a little cuck doing everything for me, from chores to developing technology, to writting books, making movies, all the entertainment in the world, all the games and pastimes, all the good food, you planted it, and reaped it, but your fruits are almost all mine, I just leave you enough to survive, and I have done nothing, how do you feel about that you scrote?
>the other man sees differently
>"true, i have invented, planted, discovered, built. I have gained many skills and gathered a lot of knowledge, to the point i’m almost self sufficient. Along with it, I have dominated my base desires and cultivated the self-discipline necessary to achieve all this, continuously seeking wisdom made be realize what is true and good. Meanwhile, you have only been further dominated by them, can you even say you have any autonomy when the desires of the flesh make the decisions for you? I take pleasure in my knowledge because even if I don’t always consume its fruits, I see it works, the fruits come as planned, and if not, it’s a pleasant surprise to be further studied. When I’m not here anymore, will you even be able to make a knife on your own?"The biggest mistake you can make is think you’re working for anyone else but you.
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okay, THIS is woke af
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why don’t you come over here and lick my filthy disgusting rancid anus clean for me, then pay me for the privilege and then tell me about how you’re winning because "hard work is its own reward" or some similar gay nonsensical memorized platitude.
brainwashed cucks are all welcome to bring me as much free money as they want to-
>filthy disgusting rancid anus clean
Wash your freaking ass dude
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Without servants, masters are nothing. Without masters, servants have no purpose. Why do we as humans lean on such dichotomies?
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peak cuck mentality
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an unpaid servant
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Yeah same. Graduated Cum Lawd top of my class without studying and heading multiple greek groups. My professors want me to upgrade to a PhD in Nuclear Physics because they have a slot for me to become an apprentice professor at MIT. I’ve never done a practice problem before. Lmao.
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3.5 and 4.0 is the same as far as employers care
don’t waste your time doing 0.5 points worth of homework-
Terrible advice, free points can save your ass
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>they get graded on homework
You probably get your 20% on an exam curved into an A+ lmao
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I had a 3.56 and got into a top physical chemistry PhD program which I dropped out of, so why would I waste time and effort getting a 4.0 instead of socializing or shitposting on LULZ?
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>I had a 3.56 and got into a top physical chemistry PhD program
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Not him, but grad school isn’t about GPA. It’s this:
>did you take the hard upper division and some graduate courses with A’s consistently?
>did you do some research with professors?
>do you have some decorations on your CV?
>did you not fail every GRE?
>are you social enough to get some good professors to tell me you’re good?
Having all but one of any of the above makes you a very strong candidate for grad school. You’d be surprised how little schools give a shit about your grades until the last 4 semesters of your study and if you took hard classes. -
You do know that upper div GPA >>> overall GPA right? Nobody gives a fuck as long as your overall is above 3.4. You’re sorted woke af on research experience, reccs, and then your GPA in high level classes.
Not to mention that a lot of people who made it into grad school didn’t hit the ground running. Grad school isn’t like med school. Your academic sins do not follow you for more than 2 years so long as you keep taking hard classes, doing well, and getting reccs. You should be able to score at least a 3.4-3.5 if you do this.
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electrical engineering brainlet here
desperately struggling to hang onto 3.0 -
It’s called not going outside and also not doing anything but the mandatory tasks.
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I don’t know about community colleges, but my university if far from easy.
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Uni and college isn’t just coursework, it’s also a matter of overcoming procrastination and laziness and fear. In my own experience my academic failures haven’t been a lack of comprehension but rather internal roadblocks. Conversely, you can be an excellent student and a total midwit.
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what happens when you take a womens or ethnic studies class and the teacher marks you down for being a white male?
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I’ve been worried about this for a long time. They love subjective activities like essays too so they can assign grades to their ideological liking.
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Yes… It only happens if you contest the theory in your papers. If you double down and embrace the theory? Easy A. Haven’t tried it but I imagine that’s how it works. Why would you take it anyway? Berkeley has an American Cultures gen Ed requirement that can also be fulfilled by a million classes. It’s sort of difficult to encounter this stuff not only because it’s really convoluted but also because it’s supposedly only supposed to make sense if you’ve read Aristotle/Plato/Heidegger/Derrida/Freud…. And yet they just teach it to zealous undergrads with little to no background.
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Now, if I go out drinking, I can’t do this with any level of serious effort. Moreover for random reasons I have to deal with my dysfunctional family calling me every other day, whereas this didn’t happen before. Having headaches and finding that what I read doesn’t stick to my head like it used to. I also joined a club that don’t take too much time (like 1 hour a week). Still don’t have a gf either but the ideal thing would be to find a gf in the same class and just work together. What’s going on?
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Solution: focus mode on my phone, no drinking, talk to girls in my class and study together, keep up with the club but don’t go to all social events.
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Because I’m too busy chilling, playing vidya, posting bait on /tv/ and /vp/, cooming to the finest girls and eating out every other day. There’s plenty of time to be boring like you after graduation and my bosses probably won’t care about my GPA that much as long as it’s over 3.0
I have zero regrets on my choices and I plan to try out this Jamaican place tomorrow instead of doing my homework that was due a week ago.
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Because a 4.0 doesn’t really mean much. I had a 3.07 and got into a top ten uni for my Ph.d and am having a great time in a world class research lab.
I did what I wanted, took a bunch of different types of classes, and had a blast making friends. Only put in effort in the context of learning information and bonked around when it came to any busy work so my grades weren’t perfect. Turned out well though.
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>I had a 3.07 and got into a top ten uni for my Ph.d and am having a great time in a world class research lab.
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I did some fun research, took a really diverse array of classes through several fields, did well in upper division courses that weren’t as much busy work, did charity work because I like helping people, started my own club and used it to build science infrastructure for my school, did well in an internship and gave a presentation at a major conference on it. I kinda flubbed the math GRE and only got like a 90 percentile cause I misread some of the questions, who the fuck makes an "choose an answer" capable of selecting multiple answers!!? But overall my gre scores were pretty good. I also worked as a research scientist at a start up my last year of undergrad. No papers from my undergrad work though.
That’s the only real explanation I got. It was a lot of work don’t get me wrong, but the correlation for GPA and GRE scores with grad school success are pretty low. The school I went to had a lot of cool faculty who were impressed by my research. Oh, my letters of rec were also really solid.
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>transfers who didn’t learn calculus until they were 24.
This is me. I’m an "over achiever" at university because I know why I’m there and actually want to be there unlike most 18 year olds just going through the motions -
I majored in history and gpamaxxed yo a 4.0 while having the time to write long research papers, form connections with professors, and participate in valuable internships. Since I got a great score on my lsat I’m basically guaranteed a few t14 law school acceptances l
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>imagine the debt
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Top law grads start at around $200k. Debt is paid off quick
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Good for you anon, you might become a decent lawyer.
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70% of my undergrad classes had some sort of this bullshit:
>mandatory attendance, miss roll call too many times and you’re bumped down a letter grade
>participation points, lose points if you don’t raise your hand enough
>multiple one-question "pop quizzes" every session at random intervals, so you can’t just show up and ditch after it’s done
>homework assignments locked behind codes that the teacher would reveal every classTwo of my greatest character flaws are chronic tardiness and a difficulty getting out of bed in the morning (and in general).
I’m more of a "crack open the textbook and teach yourself at home" kinda guy, and I never had any problems at all with exams, but all these little tricks they used to force you to come to class were the death of me (and more importantly my GPA).
In my humble opinion, the "gotta make sure the chillun’ go to class!" hand-holding shit should not have any place in determining the grades for a student pursuing a computer engineering degree.
I mean c’mon, at least 90% of the whole major was made up of introvert nerds, have some sympathy for fuck’s sake! -
t. P.E. major
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because I’m a freaking idiot
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Depression or ADHD.
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So many scrotebrains
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