Why is America such a cultural outlier?

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    • #75990
      Anonymous
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      Why is America such a cultural outlier? Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and the UK are all virtually identical, but America has almost no resemblance to Britain anymore.

    • #75992
      Anonymous
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      You know it’s funny you should ask that, because America is sort of like Iran in this situation. And what I mean by that is: if you look at both Australia and New Zealand, they’re in the southern hemisphere. They’re closer to India than they are to Iran, right? Australian abbos are even related to South Indians. Now India, India kept its Hindu culture and stuff. But if you look at Iran, Iran lost its Indo-Aryan culture in favor of Shia Islam. They even let Arabic fuck the letter "P" outta their language. America is the same way. They got fucked by circumcision and McDonald’s.

      • #76042
        Anonymous
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        >They even let Arabic fuck the letter "P" outta their language.
        >Pe (پ) used to represent the phoneme /p/, is a letter in the Perso-Arabic alphabet, based on bā’ (ب) with two additional diacritic dots. It is one of the four letters that was created specifically for the Persian alphabet to symbolize sounds found in Persian but not Arabic, others being ژ ,چ and گ.

      • #76069
        Anonymous
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        What the fuck is the post

    • #75994
      Anonymous
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      >colony that became independent after rebelling 200 years ago is more different than colonies that became independent after peacefully federating 100 years ago
      whoah

    • #75996
      Anonymous
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      because America fought a successful independence war to rid themselves of British political practices retard

    • #75998
      Anonymous
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      to the obvious answer that America has been twice as long independent as the rest of the former colonies, they had an influx of many different european people, with germans becoming the biggest ethnic group after 1850

    • #76000
      inferus
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      Declaration of independence. Fuck British monarchy, Satanic parasites wasting resources

      • #76007
        Anonymous
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        >MONARCHY IS…. LE BAD!
        >OLIGARCHY IS…. LE GOOD!

        • #76070
          Anonymous
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          Yes

      • #76011
        Anonymous
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        All European countries (or really all countries in the world) had monarchies in this time frame. Of which the the UK was arguably the most liberal.

        • #76031
          inferus
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          NZ and AUS still send them millions of tax dollars every year. Parasites

          • #76032
            Anonymous
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            They only pay when they visit.

            In the UK all the income from crown estates goes to the gov, which then pays part of it back to them. So they don’t truly cost the tax payer either.

            • #76034
              inferus
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              On average NZ pays then 7mil a year. Don’t have aus figures but its prob 10 times that. They are good for nothing parasites and have done nothing for me and never will. They do not do anything useful or anything that is of utility to anyone. They are wasting resourves and I have yet to be convinced they have provided anyone any value for those resources that were forfeited to them because of the status of their inbred blood

              • #76037
                Anonymous
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                Hard to put a price tag on identity. But without monarchs you’d have some other kind of celebrity but now with less connection to the mythical past.

                Also, the hands of the Big Ben are on a pulley with Oliver Cromwell’s corpse.

              • #76045
                Anonymous
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                This as well, fuck those Hanoverian-Windsors leeches.

              • #76046
                Anonymous
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                Bruh, it’s only 7 million dollars, that’s barely anything in the grand scheme of things. The British royal family is a core part of the British and colonial identity, without the royal family you’re just the diet version of America.

                • #76057
                  inferus
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                  That’s 0.01% of NZs total tax revenue and could employee 150 skilled tradesmen every year. That’s not barely anything. They are parasites. You would think you would try to convince me otherwise you be arguing some king of utility we gain from it but all you said was "it’s not much money bro". Parasites.

                  • #76067
                    Anonymous
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                    t. LaRouche

    • #76005
      Anonymous
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      >Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and the UK are all virtually identical

      • #76009
        Anonymous
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        NZ and Aus are very similar to the UK. Similar slang, same sports, same cuisine. NZ and Aus also get far more British media than Canada. Aus is also the main place Brits immigrate to.

        Canada is basically the US with British manners.

        • #76019
          Anonymous
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          I refuse to believe you’ve visited both the UK & Australia, and if you have your opinion is incomprehensible to me

          • #76025
            Anonymous
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            I am a Scot who has lived in England. Has an NZ mother, CAN paternal grandparents and family in Australia (who I have visited multiple times). I also have close friends from the US & Ireland and many Aus co workers.

            I probably have a much greater insight than you do.

        • #76073
          Anonymous
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          This is arguably the worst and least informed fucking take I have ever seen on this board.

    • #76013
      Anonymous
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      i don’t know what you are even talking about. all anglo countries resemble each others. some feel more european, like ireland or scotland, or south africa for new worlders, some others feel more anglo, like canada or the usa.

      • #76015
        Anonymous
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        America is no longer Anglo. Hasn’t been for decades.

        • #76044
          Anonymous
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          >source: I browse /poo/ daily

          • #76047
            Anonymous
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            No, I’m just not deluded. Culturally and more importantly demographically, the USA hasn’t been majority Anglo for many decades.

            • #76063
              Anonymous
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              It’s still culturally AND demographically Anglo.

              • #76065
                Anonymous
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                >Hate speech vs. Free Speech
                >Duty to Retreat vs. Stand Your Ground laws
                >Strong gun control vs. Right to Bear Arms
                >Regulated capitalism + welfare vs. Laissez faire capitalism
                If the USA can be considered "Anglo" then the only logical conclusion to make at that point is that the UK has somehow stopped being Anglo.

                • #76066
                  Anonymous
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                  Why do you look at the completely irrelevant gnomish media and the inane topics it obsesses over to get an idea of what American culture and demographics are?

                  • #76068
                    Anonymous
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                    >gnomish
                    which is to say, democratic.

      • #76017
        Anonymous
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        I can guarantee you that Scotland and Ireland are more like England than the US or Canada are.

        The Anglosphere is a a scale. With the US on one side and UK on the other. It goes:

        US-Can-Aus-NZ-UK

        Canada is the US with a greater Scottish influence and British manners. Aus is Norf FC left in a desert for 100 years. NZ is rural southern England cut off from pesky foreigners and with more space. These are all simplifications of course but are largely true.

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          Anonymous
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        • #76026
          Anonymous
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          from france it feels like this:

          most anglo: england > new zaeland > canada > australia > usa > wales > ireland > scotland > south africa > contiental europe : non anglo

          • #76027
            Anonymous
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            I’d agree with this, probably would switch around Aus and Can though, Canada is too American to be considered truly Anglo.

            • #76029
              Anonymous
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              Nah. Any take that puts half the UK nations behind the US in angloness is a bit weak.

              I personally wouldn’t really consider SA an Anglo nation. In the same way I don’t consider Singapore an Anglo nation (despite speaking a lot of English)

          • #76028
            Anonymous
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            A lot of that is probably due to how UK news (Brexit & Scottish independence) is portrayed domestically in France. As well as your own history of contact between those various nations.

            Scotland had a large ( and latter dominate) Anglo population long before the act of union. It has also contributed considerably to many of the nation’s you consider to be more Anglo than Scotland.

            My opinions are based on having a deep knowledge of the cultural and social factors. How people view themselves in relation to others. This is assisted a lot by having a large amount of daily contact with almost all the nationalitiea involved.

            • #76033
              Anonymous
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              not him, but what about south africa?

              • #76035
                Anonymous
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                South Africa differs from the other nations in that it is not primarily made up off settlers from the UK. Or has that as a initial basis. I would put them in the same bracket as Nigeria, Singapore, Malta and so on. English is a common language, but Anglo culture itself has never been predominant. Its Anglo adjacent maybe (amongst whites). The Dutch aren’t that far from the Anglos anyway.

          • #76030
            Anonymous
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            Excepting individualism, ROI is more like the UK than either France or SA on this scale.

    • #76036
      Anonymous
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      Aside from parliamentary government and the metric system, Canada doesn’t have much in common with the UK.

    • #76038
      Anonymous
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      are Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and the UK even seperate countries? They all serve the same queen.

    • #76039
      Anonymous
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      Foreign immigrants left cultural impressions. Germans, for example, left christmas trees, candy canes, loan words (kindergarden, stark, kaput, uber), hot dogs, sauerkraut (usually on Ruebens or hot dogs), hamburgers (or at least the patties) and so on.

      My point is that immigrants sprinkle culture in to varying degrees. The most obvious influences are Germans, and Italians. But Brit influence is still there, like Thanksgiving comes from the English

    • #76040
      Anonymous
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      Canada is nothing like the UK, kek.

      • #76043
        Anonymous
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        Same politics, same culture, same beliefs.

        • #76056
          Anonymous
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          >Same politics, same culture, same beliefs.
          In what way, retard?
          Canada has a liberals vs conservatives political system where the socialist party is a powerless 3rd party. UK has a socialists vs conservatives political system where the liberal party is a powerless 3rd party.
          Canada is overly polite and takes offence to a lot of things, UK is full of based banter boys who will insult you and call you cunt and think nothing of it.
          Canada still has a lot of religious people, UK is mostly atheist.
          Canada has a fuck-off massive province of Frenchies, UK is made up solely of Anglos and Celts.
          If there’s any commonwealth country the UK is comparable to, it’s Australia. Canada is just America Lite.

    • #76041
      Anonymous
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      >Canada
      lol

    • #76048
      Anonymous
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      All are on thier way out. Importing so many foriegners that the traditional and local culture, ethnicity, and community is replaced by a hodge podge of minorities encouraged to practice thier own culture.

      Canada is being replaced by asians and muslims. The backwards old fashioned but friendly anglo stereotype of Canadians from 20 years back wont apply much longer.
      Large portions are asian muslim and brown now and don’t retain that old canadian culture.

      New Zealand had so much land bought by foriegners its own people were struggling to get housing. All after the lord of the rings movies were filmed there. They also have the moari natives that have a stronger political influence and are anti anglo.

      Australia is really close to asia and only has in the 30 millions of people, and all Indians and South East alAsians in overpopulated asia would love to swarm them. Even 1% of asians would replace Australias entire population, so thier days are numbered.

      All gave up most gun rights which they shared for hundreds of years until the last 30 years.
      Disarm, bring in tons of foriegners, then be replaced with a new ethnicity and culture and genetics is the path all are speeding down in just the past generation.
      They will increasingly have less in common as they are replaced by new populations.

      • #76049
        Anonymous
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        >All gave up most gun rights which they shared for hundreds of years until the last 30 years.
        Did they ever even have gun rights? IIRC the USA is one of the only places in the world to have the right to bear arms in its constitution.

      • #76053
        Anonymous
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        People significantly overestimate the land bought by foreigners here (NZ), the real problem is that our housing policy was based on the stupid assumption that we could have massive population growth through immigration *and* everyone could still live in a quarter-acre section to the point where our largest city is literally just miles and miles of suburban sprawl.

      • #76072
        Anonymous
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        Firearms have always been restricted in Australia in one form or another.
        Hand guns have been heavily restricted since the 1920s.

    • #76050
      Anonymous
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      Yes english gentlemen carried pistols in most of the 19th century.
      Canadians had many of the same guns as Americans until last year a little harder to acquire.
      New Zealand had gun ownership of most types till a couple years ago.
      Australia had strong gun rights until the 90s, and Tasmania let you buy full auto new weapons into the 90s.
      England had started being antigun earlier and reached its big bans in the 90s.

      • #76051
        Anonymous
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        >english gentlemen carried pistols in most of the 19th century.
        >Canadians had many of the same guns as Americans until last year a little harder to acquire.
        >New Zealand had gun ownership of most types till a couple years ago.
        >Australia had strong gun rights until the 90s, and Tasmania let you buy full auto new weapons into the 90s.
        But was it a right? Or was it just a freedom that the state hadn’t yet decided to crack down on yet? Because there wasn’t exactly a strong pushback from these countries to having stronger gun control imposed, and I don’t recall them having to repeal certain rights in their Constitutions to pass stronger laws.

        • #76054
          Anonymous
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          Both, the American right comes from Anglo culture, the English Bill of Rights, and the Magna Carta which didn’t apply to commoners originally but applied the same concept to nobles.
          Gun rights were so strong in anglo culture they even took thier guns abroad with them against foriegn laws when traveling well into the 20th century. And anglo nations didnt punish thier citizens or extradite them for it.
          Southern US gentleman culture is essentially a modified copy of English and chivalry of a gentleman required one be able to defend themselves and ladies. A concealed pistol replaced the sword most carried in earlier time periods.

          So yes gun rights were more strongly anglo in origin than anywhere else. So it makes sense they only gave them up right before laying down and being replaced.

      • #76058
        Anonymous
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        Even though Australia, New Zealand, etc. weren’t as legally restrictive as they are now, they never had the same gun culture that the US does. Guns were always seen as tools for hunting or shooting sports, the whole "we need our guns to defend our liberty against tyrants" rhetoric never played well outside of the US.

        • #76059
          Anonymous
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          This, I guess it was a combination of the fact that there was never a revolution that would justify gun ownership to "defend liberty" etc and the colonial wars were mostly fought by professional soldiers for a much-briefer timespan (IIRC NZ’s own attempt of having a militia battle a Maori force ended disastrously)

        • #76061
          Anonymous
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          Because it was never about defeating tyrants with them. It was about an honor culture that demanded and English gentleman be able to stand up for themselves, even when small statured.
          The US, Canada, and New Zealand all had very violent hostile native tribes that raided farms, murdered families, took white slaves, etc Modern politics is from the native perspective and wrongs they suffered, but the US Indian War was the most supported war in American history with more support than WW2 or any other war for a reason.
          Natives wronged or not were vicious and deadly and assassinated, murdered, robbed, and raped on a regular basis whites caught outside a settlement.
          This helped a culture of community defense that required personal owned guns at home capable of fighting dozens of armed natives if they raided the local village or farm.
          The Canadians dealt with the same thing, and the moari of New Zealand were known to be so vicious in combat the .45acp and 1911 came about specifically because they would soak up too many .38 rounds and still keep attacking.

    • #76052
      Anonymous
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      Being positioned between Europe and Asia gave them a lot of advantages

    • #76055
      Anonymous
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      For Australia and New Zealand the obvious answer is that the point of cultural divergence was much later. British settlement of both countries took off in the 19th century, compared to the 17th century for North America. As for Canada, a large part of its Anglophone identity is "we’re not Americans" and historically this meant leaning into British loyalism and taking more cultural cues from Britain.

    • #76060
      Anonymous
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      Canada is far more similar to the US than to New Zealand, Australia or the UK

      • #76062
        Anonymous
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        Canada has almost nothing in common with the USA.

      • #76064
        Anonymous
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        Canadians are repugnant

    • #76071
      Anonymous
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      Because we are a diverse country of immigrants

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