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Why do Europeans pretend the caste system is this horrible phenomenon that’s entirely unique to India while they still continue to worship nobility?
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Why does OP pretend that some random fanart of a long-dead monarch is indicative of modern Europeans "worshiping nobility"?
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Why do you pretend like this is "just some fanart"?
Pic related, Natalia Poklonskaya, member of the Russian Duma (parliament) with an icon of Nicholas II.>comparing Nicholas II to Christ
isn’t that blasphemous?
It’s officially sanctioned by the Russian orthodox church.
only people who really need to take their meds "worship nobility"
Majority of russians adhere to the orthodox church.
Orthodox church official doctrine is worship of Nicholas II.
Therefore majority of russians need meds.-
>It’s officially sanctioned by the Russian orthodox church.
That doesn’t make it any less blasphemous. What ever happened to ‘no graven images’?-
I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just saying your position on this is the opposite of the official position of the Russian orthodox church.
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>Orthodox church official doctrine is worship of Nicholas II.
Its not-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonization_of_the_Romanovs Dedicated temple just to them.
>implying it’s much better
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PXzvMF7Dx6g-
>links a church used as a museum not for worship
let me guess you are american-
>builds a temple to someone
>it’s not for worship you guys…-
Uh it’s not worship it’s veneration™
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>build a museum temple to commemorate the killing of romanovs
>this clearly means nicholas is worshipped like a god
americans cannot comprehend anything regarding faith and god-
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>build a TEMPLE
>TO THE GUY
>doesn’t mean the worship of the guy is sanctioned by the church that build and maintains the templeI’m not American, you’re probably some seething Catholic tho
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the temple was built to his entire family not to himself
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>implying saints are prayed to-
Are saints not prayed to? What are you on about, lad?
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saints are not prayed to you ask them to pray for you to god
>"Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective."
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Incorrect.
Also your quote has next to nothing to do with what you’re saying? -
the pinnacle of american understanding of religion
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Again, not American?
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lol you’re grasping at straws. Orthodox, Catholic, and high-church protestants pray to saints to pray to God for them. You can play semantic games all you want but that doesn’t hide the fact.
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Explain this image.
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>Poklonskaya rubbing her face on the bust of Nicholas
and yet she isnt on her knees praying to him
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Explain this image.
https://trueorthodox.eu/prayer-to-the-holy-martyred-tsar-nicholas/
From the source itself.
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You just know.
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https://trueorthodox.eu/prayer-to-the-holy-martyred-tsar-nicholas/From the source itself.
Do orthodrones really? They do know he was only sainted to piss off the soviets, right?
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>saints aren’t prayed to
now you’re just making shit upYes russians worship him and his family, your point?
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Kulaks, not Russians.
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Most Russians are atheists
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Religion in Russia according to the Religious Belief and National Belonging in Central and Eastern Europe survey by the Pew Forum, 2017[1][2]
Russian Orthodoxy (71%)
Unaffiliated (15%)
Islam (10%)
Other Christian (3%)
Other religion (1%)
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even if this was definitive proof that orthodox (eastern) europeans generally "worship" nobility, they’re not the ones crying about social injustice in 3rd world shitholes like india anyway so your point is still scrotebrained
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You don’t seem to understand.
>social injustice bad
>inherent hierarchy bad
and in the same breath
>praying for nobility
>praying TO nobility
it’s as though they don’t see nobility as a hierarchy you’re born into, which is exactly what the caste system is.-
Nobody is actually doing those things "in the same breath" as you say, though. The conservative orthodox types are not the same people concerned with social injustice in India and such.
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Maybe not "concerned" but definitely looking down on India. The general zeitgeist in Europe is that the caste system is something unique to India and viewed negatively, and yet this same zeitgeist also permits most people to worship nobility.
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even if all of what you are saying is true, what makes you foist this onto "europeans" if anything it seems like a russian specific phenomenon no? And Russians are weird about this shit, I saw a poll where they fan boy Nicky, Stalin, and Lenin all equally, which is bizarre in its own but has nothing to do with "europeans" outside of russians, many of whom are not european
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Because Catholics do this too.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PXzvMF7Dx6g
UK’s national anthem is literally "God save the Queen" and said queen is the leader of the Anglican church who’s power is granted directly from God, by Anglican doctrine.
So we’ve got Catholics, orthodox, Anglicans… how much more do you need. I’m sure I can find something like this on Calvinists as well if I must but I think this covers the vast majority of Europeean population. -
> I saw a poll
Most of such internet polls are rigged.
Kremlin deliberately tries to fabricate artificial support of Nikky so as not to look too weak.IRL Stalin takes the lead, Lenin is somewhere on the second/third place (with Brezhnev).
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>Kremlin deliberately tries to fabricate artificial support of Nikky so as not to look too weak.
Sounds like commie cope-
Sounds like pol cope
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>comparing Nicholas II to Christ
isn’t that blasphemous?
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The idea that Martyrs embody Christ is hardly new or sacreligious. This image is a bit egregious, maybe, but ultimately there’s no real conflict between its message and Christian orthodoxy (or Orthodox Christianity).
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>isn’t that blasphemous?
He literally died in a Christ-like manner, that’s why he’s passion bearer
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only people who really need to take their meds "worship nobility"
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And that’s why I prefer the Catholic Church
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I’m glad Lenin made that fool disappear
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>implying
The Russian gentry were already falling apart decades before the revolution happened -
Because if you started calling social hierarchies in the rest of the world "castes" you’d have to find a new word for the indian system, which was how it got its name in the first place
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Why do you post a russian example when the bongs and their obssesion with their nobles is better example?
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The British are a bit too obvious, it’d invite a bunch of "it’s only the British and nobody else" arguments.
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He is literally worshiped as equal to Jesus in the Orthodox church.
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>worshiped as equal to Jesus
Uhh, no?Go into a Russki church and compare the number of times Jesus is mentioned/depicted to the number of times Tsar Nicky is mentioned/depicted.
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There’s only a select few nobles (the well known royal family) with any cash in the UK, most are flat broke and nobody cares
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Doesn’t mean they aren’t worshipped.
The national anthem is titled "God save the Queen", with said queen being the head of the Anglican church. -
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Because the caste system in India developed under unique circumstances
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So did nobility in Europe. We can basically point to every region in the world and say this.
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Didn’t most pre modern societies have caste system? There’s no actual caste system enshrined in institutions in India anyway. Caste differences didn’t got eroded because capitalism enhances any socioeconomic divide between groups because of how it works(rich getting richer, poor getting poorer). This visible socioeconomic divide(similar to blacks vs whites shit in us) reinforces cultural stereotypes about lower caste people being dumb.
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To be European is to be self-righteous.
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