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Why didn’t the Free French take any beaches?
Did they have something better to do that day? -
banging the wives of English soldiers fighting in France.
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French contribution on D-Day
>Only a few French infantry were involved in the Allied landing operations on June 6, 1944. There were 209- 177 commandos and 32 airborne troopers.[36] Additional personnel include a hundred French air force fighter and bomber pilots and hundreds of sailors from the French navy.[36]details of what they each did:
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lmfao ironic considering the only thing they ever did to "get back" at anyone was shaving the heads of their women who bonked the krauts, like a bunch of impotent raging little cucks
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Free france’s half a million strong army participated in the Normandy op in general for what it’s worth
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Bullshit.
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A free french division was the first to enter paris in august. Moron shithead. 7 french divisions fought in dragoon in provence in august, and 1 landed for the normandy canpaign to participate in that same month.
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Paris was not an important target. Americans were working hard to chase after the Germans so that they wouldn’t be able to retreat and reform their defenses in the East. And then de Gaulle demanded that his forces should have the honor to march into Paris instead of making useful contributions. And he somehow got what he wanted, as always.
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Operation Dragoon
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Free France and the concept of a French Resistance is for the most part one giant LARP they came up with after the liberation of their country by Commonwealth and US forces.
Of course after the krauts got their shit wrecked they were all tripping over themselves to pretend they were part of resistance movements and cells. Hell, even those that were involved in those cells mostly just provided information. At least the partisans in eastern europe actually DID shit.-
>At least the partisans in eastern europe actually DID shit.
The shit they mostly did was steal food from peasants.
In Western Europe you knew that for every German you killed they would kill 10 French civilians in retaliation. You’d have to be an idiot (or a communist) to fight under such circumstances.-
>yugoslav partisans tied down entire german, italian and collaborator armies and managed to liberate themselves by the end of the war
>french guerillas formed tiny ineffective groups and mainly fought each other over ideological disagreements and food
hmm makes you wonder who the real subhumans are-
>yugoslav partisans
Tito’s partisans, the guys who Wanted the nazis to slaughter their countrymen, since it would radicalize the population and turn them to communism. The Chetniks kept their heads down, just like all the other resistance movements in Europe because they were sane.
You know you are supposed to fight the enemy to protect your people, right?-
never said they were good people, just that they had the more effective military strategy
and before you say it, waiting for the US and britain to liberate france is not a strategy-
>waiting for the US and britain to liberate france is not a strategy
But waiting for US and Britain to liberate France while getting some innocent people killed in a futile fight that contributes nothing to the greater scheme of things is a totally viable strategy, right?-
>tie down soldiers in police work instead of front lines
>deny enemy resources and industry to boost their war effort
>hasten enemy’s defeat and your own liberation
>futile fight that contributes nothing
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>hasten enemy’s defeat and your own liberation
It didn’t hasten shit. Idiots just wanted to play badasses when the war was clearly decided elsewhere.
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Tito’s Clown School more like.
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>managed to liberate themselves by the end of the war
lol
surely the Red Army closing in in autumn 1944 had nothing to do with the German retreat
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It did, but so what? Yugoslav Partisans secured the vast majority of the land whereas France was liberated by predominantly non-French units.
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Stupid tankie still believes propaganda. Wrong, moron. The red army conquered those territories.
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Normal people prefer to be collaborationists because of heroic idiots like you.
And what’s wrong with Chetniks?
holy mother of cope
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>idiot (or a communist)
What did he mean by this? Is this a compliment or an insult?-
not him but I’m assuming he was referencing the fact that most orthodox marxist movements at the time were hyper-pragmatic to the point of being autistic and viewed ordinary people getting bonked over as a result of their actions to be worth it as long as it advanced the cause of their ideology.
So they wouldn’t have had a problem with causing trouble in a town and having the Germans roll up and execute a bunch of civilians since it furthered their cause in the long run.-
I mean, that’s one way to look at "better die on your feet than live on your knees", I suppose.
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I’m not saying they should have just lied down and taken it, nor am I saying that these tactics of putting civilians in harms way to gain support after the inevitably reprisals doesn’t work. Just explaining what that poster probably meant.
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I know, I know. Otherwise, you get this guy
, who uses the logic of a cuckold.
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>Send in the tanks, what are a few million casualties?
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>Western Europe you knew that for every German you killed they would kill 10 French civilians in retaliation
in eastern europe the would exterminate an entire village if they found a partisan
didn’t stop them from defending their country, unlike the frenchies
the same amount of greeks died as the french-
The Frenc had signed an armistice with the Germans…
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ahhh yes, the perfect excuse for collaboration
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And so what?
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They had signed an armistice with an occupying power they were formerly at war with.
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there are also 42 million Frenchmen vs. 6 million Greeks at the time
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>didn’t stop them from defending their country
They didn’t defend their country, they either surrendered, ran towards the Urals or ran to the woods. The ones that ran to the woods then spent the war terrorizing the peasants, stealing their food and getting them genocided in reprisal acts. Good freaking job! This is exactly why I pay my taxes to the military. So they would get me killed in case of war!
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Hilarious bringing up the chetniks-
Normal people prefer to be collaborationists because of heroic idiots like you.
And what’s wrong with Chetniks?
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You could’ve brought up examples of collaboration with *some* good reasoning behind it, and you choose the chetniks who were neither good resistance fighters nor collaborators.
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I don’t understand your problem with them. They chose not to be very active because fighting under conditions in which your own people are going to get slaughtered is moronic.
If the British had landed in the Balkans and liberation was viable you can bet your buttock the Chetniks would’ve been at arms.
But if every German cop you kill is going to get 10 Yugoslav civvies murdered, then it’s better to sit in the forest, peel your potatoes and let the Germans die in Normandy and Belarus.-
>They chose not to be very active because fighting under conditions in which your own people are going to get slaughtered is moronic.
They chose to be active when they went around slaughtering Croatian and muslim villages, or when they joined the Axis forces in skirmishes with the Partisans.
>If the British had landed in the Balkans and liberation was viable
If if if, same bullshit all the collaborators and sympathisers who pussied out abroad were spewing. Meanwhile, they couldn’t even keep their bullshit story straight with the dreams of a Greater Serbia inside Greater Yugoslavia that they fostered by doing everything but resisting.
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>you’d have to be an idiot to fight for your freedom
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>nooo you can’t fight oppression! think of the oppressors!
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The French had 8 Divisions, just like Canada … So I guess, you will shit on Canada too?
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Canada had fewer people and weren’t fighting for their homeland you literal scrotebrain
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>Canada had fewer people and weren’t fighting for their homeland you literal scrotebrain
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The scrotes, spanish republican exiles, and garden gnomes that made up those 8 free french divisions were NOT fighting for their homeland. They were fighting so they could destroy europe. Too bad you believe whatever your gnomish masters feed you
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you are a moron who believe russian propaganda that they found too silly to be published
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>beach landings began at 6:30am
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>LULZ discussing France
Fuck off
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anglos gave you back France, so anglos are allowed to talk about France whenever
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Didn’t they work with British commandos behind enemy lines on d day?
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They feared the black warrior
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Too busy spreading their arse for the Wehrmacht in Paris.
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>Did they have something better to do that day?
Sending globohomo to Dachau -
they took this beach
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Most of the allied forces landed in the days after the initial landings. Including the free French and all the other minor allied forces, the Australians, the Polish etc.
There is some weird obsession with literally being on the beaches day one, even an American president brought this up recently. Of course it was an incredible achievement and demonstrated the bravery and skill of the soldiers on that day, but the war was huge in scope.-
>There is some weird obsession with literally being on the beaches day one, even an American president brought this up recently.
Americans are really autistic about their amphibious landings. It’s the one thing along with logistics that they have been consistently good at from Day 1.-
>It’s the one thing along with logistics that they have been consistently good at from Day 1.
Wait until you find out about the literal thousands upon thousands of marines that drowned because they were pushed out of the boats too early.-
Where and when ?
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I’m wondering why they using landing ship with ramp door at the front and let the infantry mowed down right at the start
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ha ha what the fuck
draw a cross section of what you think a beach is
then imagine that a boat that floats on top of the water runs into the beach
then draw that on there with a door on the back
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The alternative is to put it at the back and have them mowed down while they wade around the sides instead.
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Lol. Literally the only beach that they bonked up at was Omaha, by American forces.
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deGaul was an anti-American fighting from the safety of the UK. During WWII when my dad and exhausted Americans troops got to Paris he said Frenchmen were strolling around like they did not have a care in the world. US troops despised them
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well yeah your dad ended up ruining europe
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same guy who got us into Nam?
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It’s still mind boggling to me that even in *le current year* there are people who either haven’t realised or don’t want to admit that Western Europeans simply wanted to be ruled over by the Germans…why else do you think they surrendered so quickly?-
They don’t want to be ruled over germans but they spread their ass wide open for communism.
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You are a conplete scrotebrain. The allies arrested the legitimate french government alongside EVERYONE that had a rightwing opinion. And they installed the communists
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They did arrest the french? Any information?
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Look up épuration sauvage. Doesnt have its own wiki article, wonder (((why))). Tens of thousands of frenchmen were executed, and everyone who promoted rightwing beliefs was arrested. Hundreds of thousands were sentenced to prisons, and many of those were stripped of any legal rights for the remainder of their lives (something that is totally illegal and without any historical precedent in french law). There is a famous case of a radio broadcaster who was arrested for “antisemitism” which was considered “treason”. LOL
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So a modern day french revolution?
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Did Germany seriously only leave 50,000 to defend the beaches?
What the fuck they could have won this shit easily if they just prioritised better.-
they get tricked, they thought that the allies will launch the offensive elsewhere
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Why were the Abwehr so freaking bad
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In this case the Brits were just super sneaky. They dumped a corpse with fake plans for a Normandy landing on the coast of Spain and Franco and Hitler took the bait.
Previously Hitler had been convinced the landings were coming in Normandy, because they knew the British were training with the type of sand that was found in the Normandy region.-
*fake plans for a Calais landing
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that was operation mincemeat, which dropped fake plans for a invasion of sardina to mislead the germans prior to invading sciliy
the deception plan for D-day was operation fortitude which included a entire fake radio net for a phantom army group and faked army assembly areas – blow up tanks etc suggesting a calais invasion, with the entire double cross network also making corroborating reports
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Operation Mincemeat was part of the deception around Operation Husky (Allied Invasion of Sicily) are the "plans" included talk and fictional orders and letters around an invasion of Greece and inferred an invasion of Sardinia, not northern france. More importantly than just the Abwehr just believing them, shitler was convinced of their authority, to the extent that he still believed the Balkans were the real target of an allied invasion in the med theater even after the landings in Sicily.
The deceptions for Husky (Operation Barclay) also involved a fictitious army with HQ in Cairo and dumb manoeuvers in Syria and Egypt which was all designed to fool the Germans, similar to what happened for Operation Bodyguard, the deceptions for D-Day.
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Glyndwr Michael R.I.P
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>Operation Bodyguard
kek I am mixing things up like an old man
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Because 1. they were headed by German aristocracy, and all Von’s are cut from the same cloth as Ribbentrop, and barely one degree separation from the circus that are the actual Nazis, 1-A so they disrespected communists on principle, hence the intel shitshow regarding the Red Army, 2. they freaking hated Nazis (mostly for curbing aristocracy) and were offering Britain info on them for support to coup them (Neville "two pillars of anti-communism" Chamberlain refused), 3. they started outright sabotaging the Nazis, 4. they had a Nazi rival, Sicherheitsdienst in the SS, because Nazis love infighting (Social Darwinism and competition totally twerk :^) ), 4-A and reactionaries are inherently cowards, so they will flee or rat on their "comrades", at the first sign of trouble to save themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abwehr#Questionable_commitment_and_recruiting
>Canaris personally gave false information that discouraged Hitler from invading Switzerland (Operation Tannenbaum). He also persuaded Francisco Franco not to allow German forces to pass through Spain to invade Gibraltar (Operation Felix), but it may have been just as much the imposition of the SD. The SD was allegedly spreading rumors about the partition of Spain. SD operatives also established a station at the central post office in Madrid to police mail going through Spain, and even attempted to assassinate one of Franco’s pro-Allied generals, which strengthened Franco’s intransigence to Hitler and the Nazi regime.
OMG, what the fuck."Fuckin outplayed" gives Abwehr more credit than it probably deserves.
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>history could have been so much different if the germans weren’t complete freaking idiots
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Woke af Uncle Adolf going on an autistic chimpout in the east for muh Living Space.
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So for the most part the french citizens enjoyed the German occupation or didn’t mind it, but of course the government controlled by central banks were opposed to the occupation.
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Degaulle was not the legitimate government. Vichy was. Why do people pretend otherwise? Degaulle and Fre France were a revel faction, like Franco was in the Spanish civil War.
Interesting how they shill the Spanish Republic as the legitimate government but theN they REEEEEEEE when the same is said about Vichy
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De Gaulle once admitted by his own words that he was in a sense just a mercenary working for the British and he had to act all high and mighty and pretend to be the Father of France to restore French honor.
FDR hated his guts and was trying to negotiate a settlement with Vichy mere hours before the Torch landings. He was furious that these arrogant Frenchman thought that the Americans were sending boys over to die so that the French empire could be restored, when France hadn’t fought to defend it.-
And he was right, fuck France
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The Spanish Republic, a legitimate pre-coup government, is in no possible way comparable to Vichy France, a conquered puppet government.
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Not that many soldiers were involved in taking the beaches. Considerably more troops arrived after they were already taken. The French forces did participate in storming the beaches in the secondary naval invasion in Provence. Beyond that, the forces they did send, especially the 2nd armored division, ended up having some of the most impressive service records of the western front.
>b-but muh frog surrender meme
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french resistance appeared out of nowhere after war just to shave their women for succumbing to kraut cock
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butthurt and uneducated American
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wtf was with Omaha that made it so brutal?
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They were on Sword : Kieffer commando
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They were still deployed in Italy you absolute scrotebrain. They werent retracted from the front lines until July
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Sword Beach had 177 French commandos, while the vast majority of Free French forces were participating in Operation Dragoon. Additionally, some (but mostly British) French troops would’ve landed on Band Beach, east of Sword, however the necessity of that landing diminished after American bombers had sufficiently neutralized the German gunneries there in the weeks prior.
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