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    • #159245
      Anonymous
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      Why did that style of obnoxious hyperaggressive internet atheism that was so popular from around 2007-12 die off so suddenly?

    • #159246
      Anonymous
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      They achieved marriage equality; their work was done.

      • #159301
        Anonymous
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        fpbp and top kek

      • #159418
        Anonymous
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        /THREAD

    • #159247
      Anonymous
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      They became SJWs and tankies

      • #159404
        Anonymous
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        Some also became Alt Right

        • #159419
          Anonymous
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          alt right is neo-pagan

      • #159491
        Anonymous
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        This.

        All the high schoolers who felt they were breaking taboos and millenia of oppression suddenly grew up, started paying taxes and realized that taking down creationist churches in bumfuck Bible belt wasn’t actually gonna maintain their egos or help them in any way.

      • #159521
        Anonymous
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        pretty much this. even banana lover in OP distanced himself from redditheism

    • #159248
      Anonymous
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      Internet culture evolved past basement dwelling turbogeeks talking about cumjugs and poocondoms

    • #159249
      Anonymous
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      Because people realized how cringe and reddit-tier it had become.

    • #159250
      Anonymous
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      Beating a dead horse i think

      • #159253
        Anonymous
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        This one. No need to be aggressive anymore

    • #159251
      Anonymous
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      They became just as irritating as the people they had such a chip on their shoulder about. It’s overplayed now but the *tips fedora* thing was so damaging because it was so on point.

      Also any social movement that has scrotebrains like TJ and Thunderf00t as the face is bound to crash and burn.

      • #159447
        Anonymous
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        This is on point.
        Also a lot of atheist stuff went into anti feminist which split people into increasingly seperate groups with many becoming the shrieking sjw typea and other rejecting the left wing outright.
        This is an oversimplified overview of coarse for brevity.

    • #159252
      Anonymous
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      Christianity entered its death spiral, their work was done

    • #159254
      Anonymous
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      Because of SJWs, unironically.

      2007-12 internet atheism was extremely politically incorrect by today’s standards. While they shat on Christians and bible belt rednecks a lot, they also shat on Muslims very hard too. Remember they did shit like "Burn a Quran Day" and "Draw Muhammad Day" which was outright provocative towards Muslims. And one of their idols was Christopher Hitchens, who was far harsher in his criticisms of Islam than he ever was about Christianity. You couldn’t say the shit that 2010 atheists said about Muslims today without being instantly branded a racist, a bigot, far-right, and banned from every social media platform.

      Starting in 2012 you had the growth of SJW culture and gradually the combative nature of that old internet atheism started to become unpalatable. Also, Hitchens died in 2011. The militant atheist types split, with most of them morphing into standard leftist progressives, while the more anti-Islam types gravitated towards right-leaning libertarianism and alt-right. The latter were demonised, while the former stopped talking about atheism apart from taking the occasional pot-shot at le bad Blumpf-voting evangelicals. But generally speaking the militant atheism thing was deemed unacceptable by most of the progressive left which absorbed many of the internet atheist sphere. Attacking religion became un-PC, even in the case of Christians, because it’s seen as attacking mostly poor people and third worlders, which you obviously can’t do under the control of today’s woke establishment.

      Just look at TJ’s videos today. He’s just a cookie cutter American progressive scrote who whines about muh Republicans, muh anti-vaxxers and why capitalism bad. He dropped his militant atheist beliefs the moment they became unacceptable to the establishment, because he has no balls to stand up for anything
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcN6zqNznO8
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XXNUsTP6II
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFuvKX2XX68

      • #159256
        Anonymous
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        >the militant atheist types split, with most of them morphing into standard leftist progressives, while the more anti-Islam types gravitated towards right-leaning libertarianism and alt-right.
        A lot of this anti-Islamic stuff has to the with the "war on terror" which doesn’t really make sense anymore.

        • #159261
          Anonymous
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          You’re right in that that’s why it’s not a hot topic anymore. The War on Terror shined the bright spotlight on the Islamic world, which most westerners weren’t really paying attention to pre-2001, and exposed to the public eye how backwards and savage they seemed compared to the modern liberal democratic values we enjoyed in the 90s and 00s. But there’s also been a shift in values in the west which has now made the old criticisms of Islam unpalatable and "cancellable" if you express them in 2021.

          The 00s was a much more small-l liberal, perhaps even culturally libertarian, time. It was also a more generally patriotic time. People weren’t afraid to point out the fact that Islamic beliefs conflicted with the live-and-let-live attitude we had developed in America and Europe. And those people who were drawn to the internet atheist movement initially because of its attacks on Bible Belt Bush-voting rednecks, were sympathetic and easily saw the comparison with the goat-freaking women-enslaving tribal Muslims. In those days "Christian Taliban" was a common insult levied at Christian fundamentalists. The liberal-atheist argument was basically that radical Christians and radical Muslims were one and the same because they both were crazed poopyholes with apocalyptic visions who wanted to force the rest of the world to the live the way they do. It was a libertarian argument against religion, basically.

          In the 2010s, things started to change. Liberals gave way to progressives, and progressives were much more anti-libertarian. Progressives brought ideas of critical theory, intersectionalism, and hierarchies of oppression that argued that it was "wrong" to criticise Islam if you are a white, western male. Atheists either fell in line and converted to SJWism as the new dogma, or they rebelled against this and were ostracised.

          • #159499
            Anonymous
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            Pretty much. The only big name atheist I know these days that still shits on Islam and says it’s incompatible with western values is Bill Maher, and unfortunately he’s insufferable for everything outside of that.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmpM-b-IsYY

      • #159263
        Anonymous
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        Its really odd when rightoids, like yourself, attack TJ for being establishment types… yet act like you aren’t just another side of such an establishment. The only difference is that you currently don’t hold the driver seat. Really, the fight between the left, and the right, is the fight between the have and have nots with it alternating ad naesum. The driver of you types is simply just envy and social validation. Both you hate the individual because they refuse to conform to your moral and cultural standards.

        • #159281
          Anonymous
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          >Its really odd when rightoids
          Who said I was a rightoid?
          I don’t have any problem at all with TJ being left-wing. He was always left-wing, dating right back to 2008/09 when he was pooping on Sarah Palin and Tea Party types. But he cloaks his ideology now in this palatable way which he thinks makes him immune from cancellation or going against the hivemind that has already deemed his militant-atheist roots as "problematic". He can’t continue being as aggressive against religion itself as he was 10 years ago, so instead he just attacks the easiest targets that suit the woke agenda today. I just find it cowardly.

          Good post. Not to mention that a lot of Internet atheists also had an anti-Feminist angle with people like Thunderf00t.

          Yes, that too. It all comes from that 00s libertarianism I was talking about. They deemed religion was bad because it dictated to people how they should live their private lives. So, too, that criticism lended itself well against things like "feminazis" and the beginnings of the Tumblrina SJW movement. Somewhere along the line a lot of those internet atheists abandoned these beliefs and, if they did keep criticising religion, stuck to only criticising Christianity (the safer target) and only criticising it for weak reasons like "being stupid" or "being racist/homophobic".

        • #159300
          Anonymous
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          >>leftypol.org
          is that way

        • #159417
          Anonymous
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          Dilate

          • #159422
            Anonymous
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            Download grindr or something dude

        • #159420
          Anonymous
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          Ironically enough this is exactly what happened to GypsyCrusader

      • #159267
        Anonymous
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        Good post. Not to mention that a lot of Internet atheists also had an anti-Feminist angle with people like Thunderf00t.

        • #159272
          Anonymous
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          Hell, maybe the biggest dent TJ ever put in his public image beyond some of the weird fetishistic shit (banana in pooper, hot oil on the micropecker, that creepy as shit tumblr post where he admitted that he wanted to be gangraped and eaten at a cannibal barbeque) was when he harassed some rape survivor.

          • #159561
            Anonymous
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            >he admitted that he wanted to be gangraped and eaten at a cannibal barbecue

            I’m sorry, what?

      • #159269
        Anonymous
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        Woke af Hitchensposter

      • #159271
        Anonymous
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        >the militant atheist types split, with most of them morphing into standard leftist progressives, while the more anti-Islam types gravitated towards right-leaning libertarianism and alt-right.
        A lot of this anti-Islamic stuff has to the with the "war on terror" which doesn’t really make sense anymore.

        Basically these. Left-wing atheists became general leftists; right-wing atheists, funny enough, largely dropped the atheism meme, at least as a debating thing and defining feature of their personalities, and teamed up with right-wing Christians because they agreed on the political stuff and felt that was more important.

      • #159289
        Anonymous
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        Agreed

      • #159378
        Anonymous
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        Yeah this
        I remember all the drama about feminism like with rebecca watson and then the movement seemed to funnel into either tradcath larping, anti feminism or outright fascism

      • #159386
        Anonymous
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        Should have been posted earlier.

      • #159403
        Anonymous
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        why is this ogre making his dumbass ranting vids shirtless? who the hell watches this?

      • #159425
        Anonymous
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        Imagine thinking atheism is non establishment lmaooo

      • #159449
        Anonymous
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        If I had seen this I woulfn’t have bothrred posting.
        Good post.

      • #159459
        Anonymous
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        I’d like to add to this post the incident of ‘elevator gate’ where a feminist blogger felt uncomfortable in a elevator with an unnamed atheist because this guy asked her to join him for some coffee in 4am after a conference with atheist which included Richard Dawkins. This feminist then made a video about her experience which resulted in blacklash against her from euphonic atheist on youtube claiming that she was tearing apart the community and other such things.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Watson

        Then there was also ‘Atheism+, or Atheism Plus’ which was a hatchling of later wokeism. Atheism+ was about not just skepticism towards god but included an emphasis on feminism, racism, gender norms, trans politics, basically all the woke shit that’s popular now. Atheism+ was derided by all the popular youtube atheist like Thunderfoot and Amazing Atheist.

        Basically, new atheism died because after these useful idiots ‘destroyed’ Christianity the void was filled with a kind of wokeism that wouldn’t be popular until later and these new atheist weren’t prepared nor well read on issues like feminism and critical race theory so they quickly became irrelevant to hip crowd that took over and moved on from the short lived new atheism movement.

        • #159463
          Anonymous
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          You’ve got good freaking memory, I forgot most of this stuff.

          • #159470
            Anonymous
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            Thanks, I was young and impressionable at the time and saw a lot, seeing the movement rise and fall. Thinking about it now, one can see how the backlash against Rebecca Watson and Atheism+ was later echoed by things like Gamergate and even the rise of Trump during his candidacy. A lot the people were the same, Sargon of Akkad, Thunderfoot, other e-celebs that either left or were banned, this all happened within the same decade too, food for thought.

      • #159485
        Anonymous
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        You forgot to mention that atheists just outlived their usefulness as the democrat party’s shock troops against Bush-era evangelicals after Obama got elected, and especially after Occupy Wall Street, where things could have gotten hairy had globohomo not managed to succesfully subvert and divert the angry energy to less dangerous avenues.

        Movements only arise nowadays because globohomo allows them (because it sees potential in their energy, to route towards its own ends), and movements end (or are not allowed to spread at all) when globohomo demands it because it deems them to be too dangerous.

        • #159486
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >deems them to be too dangerous
          Or just useless.

      • #159489
        Anonymous
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        It’s funny you know? I’m agnostic, but i was involved as an edgy 11 year old atheist kid back when internet atheism was at its peak, Darkmatter2525,TJ( Amazing Atheist ) and Jaclyn Glenn.

        I have been moving more and more to the right since then,now i’m 21 and consider myself a neo-reactionary who thinks the divine right of kings was woke af, i’m far-right,not a natsoc or a fascist but consider them on my side, i would even be in favor of a mass religion convertion,islam would be the best to keep the women in check.

      • #159498
        Anonymous
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        Kinda hard to argue against this when I watched it happen.

      • #159530
        Anonymous
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        He recently made a video where he explains why criticizing SJWs became ‘stale’ and is not cool anymore and very sexi..ehrm boring, of course.

      • #159556
        Anonymous
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        You’re implying that SJW’s didn’t come from the hollier than thou atheism culture.

    • #159255
      Anonymous
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      Christians started declining massively and Christianity fell into irrelevancy, not requiring or eliciting such aggression.
      They won and Christianity is pretty weird and cringe now.

      • #159257
        Anonymous
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        How have they won? As I recall, atheism is still an extreme minority of religious beliefs.

        • #159354
          Anonymous
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          It’s not mainstream in America but neither is Christianity. Most people are deists or apatheists.

      • #159317
        Anonymous
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        There’s almost a reversal nowadays, where even if people aren’t religious themselves, they really don’t like it when you talk bad about religion as a concept.

        • #159318
          Anonymous
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          >where even if people aren’t religious themselves, they really don’t like it when you talk bad about religion as a concept.
          Wokeists don’t like people criticising religion because it’s seen as bullying working class people and third worlders (who tend to be much more inclined towards faith).

          Anecdotally, I have seen a lot more commie/socialist types in the past few years who appeal towards this sense that "Christianity is really socialist" and argue this is why Christians should embrace leftist politics. 10 years ago lefties were more likely to shit-talk Christians rather than try to win them over.

          • #159320
            Anonymous
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            wokeists do actually. as long as its christianity.

          • #159323
            Anonymous
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            This might be partly because both the West itself and Christianity as a whole are well, browner and less white than they used to be. Left/libs are realizing that Christians from other parts of the world are more sympathetic to socialism (especially when the rich are stereotyped as old and white) than the average American Christian in the 1960s or whatever.

          • #159508
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Because of SJWs, unironically.

            2007-12 internet atheism was extremely politically incorrect by today’s standards. While they shat on Christians and bible belt rednecks a lot, they also shat on Muslims very hard too. Remember they did shit like "Burn a Quran Day" and "Draw Muhammad Day" which was outright provocative towards Muslims. And one of their idols was Christopher Hitchens, who was far harsher in his criticisms of Islam than he ever was about Christianity. You couldn’t say the shit that 2010 atheists said about Muslims today without being instantly branded a racist, a bigot, far-right, and banned from every social media platform.

            Starting in 2012 you had the growth of SJW culture and gradually the combative nature of that old internet atheism started to become unpalatable. Also, Hitchens died in 2011. The militant atheist types split, with most of them morphing into standard leftist progressives, while the more anti-Islam types gravitated towards right-leaning libertarianism and alt-right. The latter were demonised, while the former stopped talking about atheism apart from taking the occasional pot-shot at le bad Blumpf-voting evangelicals. But generally speaking the militant atheism thing was deemed unacceptable by most of the progressive left which absorbed many of the internet atheist sphere. Attacking religion became un-PC, even in the case of Christians, because it’s seen as attacking mostly poor people and third worlders, which you obviously can’t do under the control of today’s woke establishment.

            Just look at TJ’s videos today. He’s just a cookie cutter American progressive scrote who whines about muh Republicans, muh anti-vaxxers and why capitalism bad. He dropped his militant atheist beliefs the moment they became unacceptable to the establishment, because he has no balls to stand up for anything
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcN6zqNznO8
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XXNUsTP6II
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFuvKX2XX68

            > even in the case of Christians, because it’s seen as attacking mostly poor people and third worlders
            im with you except on this point. wokies dont really care about poor whites. they will shit on rednecks all day. you might have a point with them realizing that a lot of non-whites are christian though and so they’ve backed off for that reason.

    • #159258
      Anonymous
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      I don’t think it died off, there’s only so far you can go with "it’s obvious that god doesn’t exist".

      God doesn’t exist, Yahweh isn’t real, Jesus is dead, Mohammad was never visited by an angel, there is no afterlife – there’s only so many times you can repeat the obvious. Just say the truth once and move on, if someone tries to assert god’s existence through false arguments shut them down with the truth again as needed.

      • #159260
        Anonymous
        Guest

        this has to be a bait lmfao

      • #159265
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >just say the truth and move on ekksde
        Why is what you said the truth? Proofs?

        • #159282
          Anonymous
          Guest

          There is no evidence of god’s existence, nor has any ever been presented. Debating god is literally like debating angels, the afterlife, or leprechauns; they’re unverifiable concepts that are asserted without any evidence and can continue being asserted despite being put on a never-ending retreat. Doesn’t matter how many holes are poked into them, they’re still continually asserted without evidence; adherents try to shift the burden of proof for proving that the unprovable doesn’t exist on skeptics since they know there’s no evidence to their beliefs. "I can’t prove Jesus rose from the dead since there’s no evidence for it, therefore it’s your responsibility to prove my claims of resurrection aren’t true. Do the gospels say that Jesus’ mother and siblings were embarrassed by him teaching in Nazareth, fear he had gone insane, and couldn’t understand what he was doing or why? Yeah it may poke holes into the narrative of Mary being visited by an angel and giving a virgin birth to the son of God, but you can’t exactly disprove the virgin birth even if the gospels themselves undermine it."

          Religion is entirely emotional, it’s an emotional crutch. It shouldn’t be presented as something of logic, it’s purely a comfort mechanism.

          • #159286
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >why is what you said the truth?
            >oh well uhhh yeah because this other thing doesn’t make sense in my opinion
            okay then

            • #159414
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >burden of proof
              Why is it that I only hear this from religious types these days?

          • #159288
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Now waiting for that one scrotebrain who will shit the bed by attempting to use philosophy to empirically prove something, and the other scrotebrain who will argue that well, reality isn’t *really* real and thus the God of Israel is the best possible explanation for literally everything.

          • #159292
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Although they’re both as plausible theories. Which one you believe in depends on your point of view, and there’s that. No one’s gonna change their mind on anything.

            • #159294
              Anonymous
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              >they’re both as plausible theories
              Only if you don’t know shit about logic, no offense

              • #159296
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Not really, but if you say so.

          • #159356
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Why isn’t god real?
            >muh leprechauns
            Opinion completely dismissed

            • #159359
              Anonymous
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              >my god is different than leprechauns

              • #159361
                Anonymous
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                I’m not discussing fairy tales with you.

                • #159366
                  Anonymous
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                  Very interesting how you don’t realize you’re denying your own beliefs.

          • #159383
            Anonymous
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            If you claim "god isn’t real" and pretend like it is factual you do forget that you make a positive statement, meaning the burden of proof is on you. That makes you factually just as correct/incorrect as every religious person who claims god is real.
            If you say you do not know whether god exists and do not care about it it’s another thing entirely. Also you can voice critique on institutionalised religions, because there it is usually blatantly obvious that they are fairly inconsistent/only there to further the goal of a certain people, yet even there one needs to treat carefully and factually.

            • #159384
              Anonymous
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              The concept of gods and divinity are unnecessary to explain the world and the universe.
              There you go.

            • #159387
              Anonymous
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              >If you claim "god isn’t real" and pretend like it is factual you do forget that you make a positive statement
              It’s not a positive claim, it’s a negative claim but he still has the burden of proof regardless.

          • #159545
            Anonymous
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            There’s also no evidence that the whole world just exploded out of nothing. Not only is there no evidence for it; it is stupidity and idiocy. If you were honest with yourself you would realize that.

            • #159549
              Anonymous
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              Good thing that’s a scrotebrained strawman and literally nobody in physics believe that.
              The big bang theory, though. That one there is plenty of evidence for.

              • #159554
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Not a straw man. One of the most famous physicists, Lawrence Krauss wrote a book titled, "A Universe from Nothing"

                • #159555
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  What are you exactly trying to accomplish here?
                  Seriously Anon, what’s your goal by doing this act? I’m legitimately curious what do you gain by doing this.

            • #159553
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Yeah it’s scrotebrained, there’s a reason people shit on Christians claiming something like that.

            • #159557
              Anonymous
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              There no evidence of that but also not evidence of not being that way or being other way so while we try to search the truth that lies out there we set that as the most probable posibility but only as a rethoric resource, we dont do anything thinking it is true. Also, whats your evidence of a dove having a baby with a woman 2000 years ago and why do you take decisions in your life woke af on that? Some people may believe in big bang like the ones who believe in santa claus but that doesnt change the underlying substract, science may have to take into account that human is scrotebrained and that it believes woke af on feelings and that aesthetic is important, butthat doesnt change the fact that it fuckong works and that all christian beliefs are pure scrotebraination even when defended by the most intelligent christians

      • #159509
        Anonymous
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    • #159259
      Anonymous
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      Because all the atheists grew up

    • #159262
      Anonymous
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      I have no idea how it really is in America, but at least in Northern Europe ”casual” atheism (in the sense of ”religion is not something that I spend time thinking about”) has became so mainstream that it would just feel kind of pointless to be a militant, vocal atheist. Besides, the ”new atheism” internet clique was always rather insufferable even it I agreed with them on general principles, that style of atheism never really had a chance of becoming anything more popular than it already was at that point.

    • #159264
      Anonymous
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      Because technology advanced a lot to the point that people subconsciously know that there isn’t anything to debate about.

      god ain’t real

    • #159266
      Anonymous
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      Because once people thought things over, they all realized how irrational atheism actually is, and then they all stopped listing to those people.

    • #159268
      Anonymous
      Guest

      People grew up and realized that a God makes more sense than atheism.

      • #159270
        Anonymous
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        • #159275
          Anonymous
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          Cope.

      • #159273
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Oh no, it’s scrotebrained

        • #159277
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Hit a touchy spot, atheist?

          • #159278
            Anonymous
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            Not really tbh

            • #159283
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Okay, good to hear that.

      • #159347
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >a God
        ebin

    • #159274
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Atheists are cowards, they only went against Christians because hey knew hey would turn the other cheek.
      But once Islam entered the picture they shut up.
      Talk shit, get bombed kuffar. You try any Charlie Hebdo shit again see how it goes for you.

    • #159279
      Anonymous
      Guest

      This and also progs started pivoting on Muslims and deciding that their status as oppressed brown people superseded their reputation for throwing apostates and homosexuals off of roofs.

      It’s actually kind of hilarious because I can remember TheAmazingAtheist doing this video on how antisemitism was a product of Roman discrimination but then like ten years later all the wokies are sharing BDS posts.

      • #159293
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >This and also progs started pivoting on Muslims and deciding that their status as oppressed brown people superseded their reputation for throwing apostates and homosexuals off of roofs.
        It’s really weird how this developed. I feel like it could have easily gone the other way if things had played out slightly differently. Hitchens was slandered by opponents as having betrayed his socialist roots or become a Bush supporter, but really he was just appalled by the reaction of some of his colleagues to 9/11. He saw radical Islam as being this terrible, archaic, reactionary force akin to fascism which sought to destroy all of what was good about western civilisation. He saw other leftists becoming apologists for radical Islam, or implying that America "deserved it" for being imperialist throughout the world, and thought they had gone mad. His arguments against Islam were very much leftist ones, as he pointed out that it was culturally ultra-conservative, anti women’s rights, anti enlightenment, anti science. They wanted to destroy all that was "good" (left-wing) about the west. He couldn’t understand why so many other socialists didn’t agree with him on that. Coincidentally, his sis Peter (who was anti War on Terror) understood those arguments better than many others did, because he used to attack Christopher for supporting a "stupid, left-wing war" in Iraq.

        Hitchens was invited to talk at Google in 2007 and got millions of views on this video. He was treated as a darling of the liberal intelligentsia during his time, even if many of them disagreed with him on the War on Terror, they liked his arguments on religion. Can you imagine Google promoting this kind of thing in 2021? It would be unthinkable. Sometimes I think Hitchens was lucky to die when he did because if he was still around today, he probably would have been deplatformed and cancelled for being "a racist far-right islamophobe".
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD0B-X9LJjs

        • #159501
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >itchens was slandered by opponents as having betrayed his socialist roots
          Did he? He was a Trotskyist, and Trotsky unlike Stalin believed in interventionism.

    • #159280
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Atheism was a fad, and fads end.

    • #159284
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Love how it seems the last refuge of proud, self proclaimed internet Christians is an anonymous website, known for being contrarian plus the several controversies over the years, and a place where people with questionable mental health flock to.

      • #159314
        Anonymous
        Guest

        What are you talking about there are plenty of Christians all over the internet. Haven’t you been to Youtube they have mass every day and people praise God there. Even reddit has a bunch of Christians. The thing is many Christians don’t speak about their beliefs like Atheists seem to so it isn’t present with everything they do.

    • #159285
      Anonymous
      Guest

      When did all the middle schoolers come out? Atheism is a dead meme. Grow up.

    • #159287
      Anonymous
      Guest

      People finally started psychoanalyzing the losers pushing it instead of playing debate team with mentally ill gutter trash. The ‘neckbeard’ meme was great until everyone on earth accused everyone they didn’t like of being one.

    • #159290
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The fedora meme.

    • #159297
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >LULZ (2003-2012): Normies are so stupid, god obviously isn’t real and there’s no afterlife

      >LULZ (2012-present): Normies are so stupid, Jesus is obviously Lord and the pope is the successor of St. Peter

      Why the change?

      • #159299
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Contrarianism is one hell of a drug.

      • #159308
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Imagine being on LULZ before Christmas 2012. How much of a failure do you have to be to browse here longer than that?

        (Although tbf my big regret is not being on /sp/ in 2011 for the ISHYGDDT phenomenon when it began, the zenith of what this godawful place has to offer. Been told LULZ’s been in a steady decline since then and it’s depressing knowing you’ve only been here in the era of decline).

        • #159398
          Anonymous
          Guest

          shut the fuck up, scrote

      • #159311
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >>LULZ (2003-2012): Normies are so stupid, god obviously isn’t real and there’s no afterlife
        pic related was 2003 – 2012 LULZ.

        • #159313
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I’ve seen this pic several times over the years, but it gets a chuckle out of me every time. The look of genuine puzzlement on the face of the thot on the right really makes it IMHO

        • #159315
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Vgh. Gods we were strong back then.

        • #159357
          Anonymous
          Guest

          SOVL

        • #159360
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Why has mid-’00s internet humour aged so horribly?

          • #159362
            Anonymous
            Guest

            it was cringe as hell

          • #159510
            Anonymous
            Guest

            o rly?

          • #159526
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >implying modern humor won’t age like shit

      • #159402
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >normies are so cringe, arguing about religion, something that is solely one’s personal spiritual journey and therefore should not concern others

      • #159525
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Contrarianism at it’s finest

    • #159298
      Anonymous
      Guest

      they realized religion was shifted to pure, raw ideology. woke and social justice activism replaced christianity in the united states.

    • #159303
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Because the world has drastically changed since then. Those people were typically dwelling in the most religious parts of the US. Since religion has lost much of its control over the lives of people in the US, being edgy and super against it isn’t as necessary or even thought of as it once was.
      In short, everyone is an atheist, or at least non-observant now.

      • #159309
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This, and even shit like the abortion debate are increasingly not seen in mainly or exclusively a Christtard vs. fedorascrote frame like they were in the 1980s or 1990s. Because honestly as you might have noticed if you’ve spent time on /poo/ lately, a more secular conservativism is starting to emerge in America, rooted in naked gender power politics and a desire to grind liberals down for reasons beyond religious dogma.

        Sure the religion stuff is still kinda relevant to boomers in the GOP leadership, but in a few decades’ time that will be old hat and irrelevant.

        • #159312
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >rooted in naked gender power politics and a desire to grind liberals down for reasons beyond religious dogma
          yeah, now its just pure ideological reasons. see pic related, degenerates need to be purged.

    • #159305
      Anonymous
      Guest

      i was once one of those atheist. 2016 and onward is what made me realize religion was right. seeing how leftist treat their ideology, they treat them as a religion. but a religion without an afterlife so it makes them more cynical. depressed. they’re faith is in physical and that physical nature makes them more prone to sorrow as their faith isn’t in something non physical. when things go wrong, it hurts them a lot more than a normal religious person as its an attack on the very physical nature of their ideology. to simply put it, they put their faith into man himself and man is an extremely flawed person.
      the power of being able to say god works in mysterious ways is very powerful and something the modern ideologies of the left is missing. you cannot debate god himself. you cannot check gods privilege. but you can check mans. rather than having a all powerful being at the top that cannot be challenged being the leader, its now all the practitioners. hell, even during the reign of the catholic church was better because at least it was the priest. now? well now you get stuff like critical race theory like: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1632990954158.webm

      but anyways, my point being, the atheist movement’s idea of life without religion would solve so many problems was false. it just shifted from traditional god woke af religions to pure ideological and it made things 100x worse for things noted above.

      • #159319
        Anonymous
        Guest

        and now those horseman are being attacked by the new age religion. that they helped create.

        • #159321
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I know that Dawkins was always a grumpy dickhead as a person so that’s not so surprising he’d make people mad, but how on earth is Sam Harris far-right?

          • #159322
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Sam Harris: Arguably the progenitor of New Atheism, Harris was for me one of the more entertaining atheists. More recently, though, he has expended a prodigious amount of time and energy vigorously defending the scientific racism of Charles Murray. He believes that IQ is a good measure of intelligence. He argued to Josh Zepps during a podcast interview not only that black people are less intelligent than white people, but that this is because of genetic evolution. He has consistently given white nationalists a pass while arguing that Black Lives Matter is overly contentious, and has stubbornly advocated profiling "Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim," at airports. (When Harris believes he’s right about something, it becomes virtually impossible to talk him out of it, no matter how many good arguments, expert opinions or hard data are presented to him. Like Donald Trump, he’s pretty much unteachable.) Harris has also partly blamed the election loss of Hilary Clinton on "safe spaces, trigger warnings, [and] new gender pronouns," released a private email exchange with Ezra Klein without Klein’s permission, and once suggested that New Atheism is male-dominated because it lacks an "extra estrogen vibe."
            https://www.salon.com/2021/06/05/how-the-new-atheists-merged-with-the-far-right-a-story-of-intellectual-grift-and-abject-surrender/

            • #159514
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >He argued to Josh Zepps during a podcast interview not only that black people are less intelligent than white people, but that this is because of genetic evolution.
              I guarantee that’s not what he said and they’re putting words in his mouth from misinterpreting him.

          • #159520
            Anonymous
            Guest

            sam harris bashed islam and he gave a sympathetic interview with charles murray.

            • #159523
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Here’s the difference between Sam Harris’s beliefs and what people like the writers of Salon think he believes: Even if he thinks there’s a racial difference in IQ, that doesn’t mean we should be creating policies to treat blacks as subhumans or deny them resources or shit like that. But that’s all these writers jump to, if anything though what Sam is arguing is whether or not we can use genetic engineering to do something to fix that.

        • #159327
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Sam Harris: Arguably the progenitor of New Atheism, Harris was for me one of the more entertaining atheists. More recently, though, he has expended a prodigious amount of time and energy vigorously defending the scientific racism of Charles Murray. He believes that IQ is a good measure of intelligence. He argued to Josh Zepps during a podcast interview not only that black people are less intelligent than white people, but that this is because of genetic evolution. He has consistently given white nationalists a pass while arguing that Black Lives Matter is overly contentious, and has stubbornly advocated profiling "Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim," at airports. (When Harris believes he’s right about something, it becomes virtually impossible to talk him out of it, no matter how many good arguments, expert opinions or hard data are presented to him. Like Donald Trump, he’s pretty much unteachable.) Harris has also partly blamed the election loss of Hilary Clinton on "safe spaces, trigger warnings, [and] new gender pronouns," released a private email exchange with Ezra Klein without Klein’s permission, and once suggested that New Atheism is male-dominated because it lacks an "extra estrogen vibe."
          https://www.salon.com/2021/06/05/how-the-new-atheists-merged-with-the-far-right-a-story-of-intellectual-grift-and-abject-surrender/

          This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about earlier in the thread. Militant atheism has been abandoned by the new, woke-left because it doesn’t conform to the progressive, critical theory woke af, intersectionalist, pro third world agenda they’ve adpted.

          • #159330
            Anonymous
            Guest

            don’t mean to interject myself but this was my point with my autistic rant here:

            i was once one of those atheist. 2016 and onward is what made me realize religion was right. seeing how leftist treat their ideology, they treat them as a religion. but a religion without an afterlife so it makes them more cynical. depressed. they’re faith is in physical and that physical nature makes them more prone to sorrow as their faith isn’t in something non physical. when things go wrong, it hurts them a lot more than a normal religious person as its an attack on the very physical nature of their ideology. to simply put it, they put their faith into man himself and man is an extremely flawed person.
            the power of being able to say god works in mysterious ways is very powerful and something the modern ideologies of the left is missing. you cannot debate god himself. you cannot check gods privilege. but you can check mans. rather than having a all powerful being at the top that cannot be challenged being the leader, its now all the practitioners. hell, even during the reign of the catholic church was better because at least it was the priest. now? well now you get stuff like critical race theory like: https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1632990954158.webm

            but anyways, my point being, the atheist movement’s idea of life without religion would solve so many problems was false. it just shifted from traditional god woke af religions to pure ideological and it made things 100x worse for things noted above.

            religion is ultimately a manifestation of human behavior. it will never go away because of that. its just pure ideological now but worse because ironically, there is no imaginary man in the sky that acts like accountability to it. as crazy as that sounds but having faith in something invisible did work as accountability. remember, even the kinds had to submit to god. divine right was god granting them the ability to be a king.

          • #159333
            Anonymous
            Guest

            I think that for a lot of left/libs, attacking Christianity ultimately wasn’t a principled ideological thing, it was just a proxy for attacking what was the conservative white Establishment.

            Once it became clear that many white men weren’t even that religious anymore, there was no longer any need to keep up the façade, what was cloaked in ideology and values has become a naked struggle for power of basically everyone against the Stale Pale Male or whatever.

            • #159346
              Anonymous
              Guest

              https://i.4cdn.org/his/1633310403643.webm

              >I think that for a lot of left/libs, attacking Christianity ultimately wasn’t a principled ideological thing, it was just a proxy for attacking what was the conservative white Establishment.
              That’s probably true. And what the other Anon said, about Christianity becoming less white and more brown, is probably playing a part here. Today’s woke-left is more comfortable with Christianity because they want to appeal to demographics like African-Americans, Hispanic immigrants and third worlders who are all still deeply religious.

              I also wonder if part of it is that, as so many churches are now becoming LGBT-friendly, one of the main points of left opposition to Christianity in the 00s (That they were frothing-at-the-mouth hateful lunatics when it came to anything gay) has been made redundant. They can now point to many churches as allies because they promote pro-gay, pro-trans, pro-feminist and pro-BLM lines of thinking. Similar to how the woke-left supports shit like "Muslim feminists" and women wearing gay-pride flag emblazoned Hijabs.

              • #159364
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Christianity was woke af and still is woke af in most of it’s forms. But it changes as society changes, Christianity nowadays obviously won’t be the exact same as 500 years ago.

                • #159371
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  So much for christian love.

        • #159376
          Anonymous
          Guest

          The "science is the end all" crowd has to either accept genetic differences between population groups as a reality or discredit it with accusations of "rascism" or whatever the buzzword of the week is.

          • #159512
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Or just not talk about it and focus on other shit,

        • #159416
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Steven Pinker
          >Far right

      • #159506
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >2016 and onward is what made me realize religion was right
        I never went that far, I just changed from being an poopyhole about it to adopting a live and let live stance on it. I’m still not religious, you can never get me to believe in religion because my brain just isn’t wired to accept it, but if other people and they’re not hurting anyone, then whatever. I’ve just stopped caring, because the fact is religious people here aren’t chopping anyone’s heads off so what’s the worst that can happen?

    • #159306
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >christianity is dumb
      >I am very smart
      >"tell us something smart"
      >sjws and nazis and black people are all the same xdddd
      This made zoom zooms question their theology.

    • #159310
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I got the impression there was kind of a schism where a lot of atheist youtubers or whatever started talking less about religion and more about a variety of political/social questions and ended up on opposing sides. Personally I just grew out of it after having had a period where I did consume a lot of atheist-oriented content and thought about my irreligiousity a lot. Losing faith was a significant transition for me after growing up in a fairly religious part of the country and as an arrogant teen I liked to think it meant I was smarter even if I never put it into words. Now I’m still an atheist but I literally only think about it when I see threads about it on LULZ.

    • #159316
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Really they aged out. They started passing their early 20s into the 30s and no longer made rant videos on youtube or the like.
      There was a transitional period between them and the next group and then they grew out of spamming angry content online
      Nowadays you have a more split reaction to the mainstream among young people where you get the tradcath or evangelical style kids, and you get the wokist kids.

    • #159324
      Anonymous
      Guest

      There was a massive concerted effort to populate the internet with normans and destroy any kind of authenticity internet culture had.
      It’s around the time when things started becoming products and social media was really booming.
      2016 sealed it off by making religious larping a cool little thing for zoomers.

      • #159515
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >There was a massive concerted effort to populate the internet with normans
        Man, fuck the French

    • #159326
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://i.imgur.com/NK4cKCu.gif

      Being nonreligious became the norm and associated with normie liberals, so the new edgy way to rebel was to become a cringe tradlarp who argues for retvrning to tradition or whatever. This sounds scrotebrained but it is the actual reason.

      • #159516
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I hope this guy is actually the ethnicity of the orthodox he’s shilling for, because the reality of the matter is Orthodox is basically an ethnic church. On one hand, it’s very easy for them to keep members due to the community center angle they play in the diaspora; on the other hand, it’s hard to really become Orthodox if you’re not either Greek or a Slav.

    • #159328
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I began to notice how all these characters weren’t interested in the truth at all. They were just really angry and lashing back at their parents. The fedora meme perfectly communicated this. They weren’t radical intellectuals fighting against tyranny, they were just pathetic losers coping with the world and fabricating some superiority within it. Once they had no credibility, they had nothing left because their entire paradigm was around undermining the credibility of others.

    • #159329
      Anonymous
      Guest

      because people realized just how cringe and pathetic most atheists are and simply don’t want to associate with them anymore, kek

      https://youtu.be/JiW3qRlDhig

      • #159331
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Impressive, you scrotebrains really believe this shit

        • #159332
          Anonymous
          Guest

          seethe, cope and dilate chud

          • #159334
            Anonymous
            Guest

            About what? You people being scrotebrained? I’m fine with that, you’re a lolcow for everyone else

            • #159336
              Anonymous
              Guest

              you will never be a woman

              • #159337
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Yeah keep repeating your mantra, bitch boy, you have nothing else.

                • #159341
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  calm your balls down, chud, there’s no need to butthurt

                  • #159343
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    ?

    • #159335
      Anonymous
      Guest

      A lot of 00s militant atheism became popular because of the left’s fear of the influence wielded by evangelical Christians over the Bush administration. A lot of the cultural battlegrounds at the time were about the role religion had to play in public and political life in America. The big issues of the day were things like gay marriage and abortion rights and intelligent design being taught in schools. Religion was central to all these cultural issues as well as the nascent War on Terror. Religion stopped being the primary battleground for the culture wars once Obama was in office and Trump’s religious neutrality relative to Bush meant that it didn’t re-emerge as a battleground when the Republicans regained power.

      • #159339
        Anonymous
        Guest

        00’s atheism was veering too much into forbidden topics like anti-feminism, ‘human biodiversity,’ etc. That’s why the fake ‘Atheism+’ ‘movement’ was spammed all over the place shortly afterwards, as an explicit plan to politicize ‘atheism’ in an SJW direction.

      • #159340
        Anonymous
        Guest

        tbh Trump’s supreme court justices are doing a lot of shit evangelicals love, the Texas abortion thing is just the most high-profile example. It’s just that the debate and the way things are framed has moved on, I think the left finds it more politically advantageous to talk about anti-abortion politics using the incel/misogyny frame rather than talking about Christianity. Both because they don’t want to turn off (at least nominally) Christian constituents, but also because tbh young white men aren’t really religious anymore, even if they enjoy seeing boomer evangelicals tweak liberals’ noses and force them to listen to their smarmy preaching.

        • #159377
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Centring the cultural battleground on religion would’ve been absurd with Trump. He clearly doesn’t give a fuck about religion in any meaningful sense, which is why religion was largely ignored in the culture wars during his administration. But if a candidate from the Christian wing of the GOP wins 2024 and insists on enacting a Christian right agenda you’ll see the culture wars swing back round to religion again, believe me.

    • #159338
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It was no longer a useful narrative. Largely it had come in response to 911 to expand the "religious extremism" boogeyman, alienating more moderate beliefs to make space for identity woke af outrage to become the new religion.

    • #159342
      Anonymous
      Guest

      why do so many young adults on this board claim to be christian
      stop pretending to believe in this ancient garbage
      you’re not getting internet contrarian points for this

      • #159344
        Anonymous
        Guest

        No one’s pretending, schizo.

      • #159350
        Anonymous
        Guest

        One theory I have is that some conservative-leaning types realize that the freedom of religion meme is sort of a ticket out the progressive gulag, and a way to oppose progressive policies in a way that attracts somewhat more muted criticism (since you can say you have no choice, it’s God’s will without getting into an argument over rights and freedoms that often favours the progressive way of framing things, especially in the current climate).

        So claiming to be religious is turning into a political strategy as much as anything else for "unprogressive" whites. Ideally they’d like the absolute Teflon immunity their Muslim cousins have, but failing that pulling the holy roller card is still somewhat useful.

      • #159399
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Fuck off saklas. Religion always has been and always will be a core element of the human experience. Any attempt to live without it just ends up creating a crisis of meaning and thus suffering.
        The nihilistic, doomer, consumerism of the time we live in is just another example of what a lack of religion does to a society.

        https://i.4cdn.org/his/1633310403643.webm

        >I think that for a lot of left/libs, attacking Christianity ultimately wasn’t a principled ideological thing, it was just a proxy for attacking what was the conservative white Establishment.
        That’s probably true. And what the other Anon said, about Christianity becoming less white and more brown, is probably playing a part here. Today’s woke-left is more comfortable with Christianity because they want to appeal to demographics like African-Americans, Hispanic immigrants and third worlders who are all still deeply religious.

        I also wonder if part of it is that, as so many churches are now becoming LGBT-friendly, one of the main points of left opposition to Christianity in the 00s (That they were frothing-at-the-mouth hateful lunatics when it came to anything gay) has been made redundant. They can now point to many churches as allies because they promote pro-gay, pro-trans, pro-feminist and pro-BLM lines of thinking. Similar to how the woke-left supports shit like "Muslim feminists" and women wearing gay-pride flag emblazoned Hijabs.

        I honestly do not get these ‘progressive’ pastors virtue signalling on tick tok. It may win them all of the good boy points in the world, but at the end of the day the people that most like that sort of rubbish are not about to start filling up pews.

        • #159412
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Religion isn’t gone. It can’t go away. It’s a manifestation of human behavior. Traditional religion with a god might be fading away, but the behavior isn’t. Look at all the big ideologies right now. How fanatic it’s supporters are and how they treat it. It’s religious like in devotion. And even the structure is similar.

    • #159345
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Literally just the fedora meme

      • #159348
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Impressive, you scrotebrains really believe this shit

        • #159349
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Calm down, Fedora. Kek.

    • #159351
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://i.imgur.com/1QtxxLr.gif

      Pretty sure it has to do with the fat ass fedora tippers.

      • #159355
        Anonymous
        Guest

        It does. Gradually it became really uncool to be an Atheist in this sense. That was kryptonite for narcissists who were obsessed with image and "owning" their opponents.

      • #159519
        Anonymous
        Guest

        By the end fedoras didn’t have to do with atheism, they were more about guys that couldn’t talk to women.

    • #159352
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >no new IP
      kek, scrote

    • #159353
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Imagine becoming a reactionary fundamentalist because of ethics in gaming journalism

    • #159358
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://i.imgur.com/taegfsH.gif

      What created the universe?
      >umm just luck i guess
      Why do the atoms arrange the way they do?
      >just luck really
      Why did life start in Earth?
      >we got lucky with it’s formation
      Why did humans develop a consciousness?
      >we were really lucky with evolution

      Doesn’t take a long time to kek at all this autism, lol.

      • #159365
        Anonymous
        Guest

        yes these sure are much worse than christian narrative featuring
        >god creating satan then being upset at satan
        >god creating humans then being upset at humans
        >god creating dinosaurs then killing them
        >god sending his son who is also god to earth
        omniscient being my ass
        >god created endless universe for a single inhabited planet
        I could go on for hours

        • #159368
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Not a Christian, I’m a deist.

          • #159369
            Anonymous
            Guest

            so why did demiurge create things the way they are? why is human organism so poorly designed? is demiurge scrotebrained? why do I have to poo and pee? why do I have to eat? he could have designed me differently. demiurge does not have to eat why should I?

            • #159372
              Anonymous
              Guest

              That’s Gnosticism, scrotebrain.

              • #159381
                Anonymous
                Guest

                I don’t care
                whoever you believe in
                why did he design my poopyhole in such a bad way that after I took really big rock solid piece of shit I got anal fissure and had to cure it for 2 weeks?

                • #159385
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  If you had the diet you were designed to, that wouldn’t happen. Our choices have consequences.

          • #159370
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Are you one of those idiots who think the universe is fine tuned for life?

            • #159373
              Anonymous
              Guest

              How yes, how could you tell?

              • #159374
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Are you proud to be called an idiot twice for the same thing, Anon?

                • #159375
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  No but I’m proud to be calling you an idiot right now. You idiot!

      • #159367
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >What created the universe?
        We don’t know.
        >Why do the atoms arrange the way they do?
        We don’t know.
        >Why did life start in Earth?
        We don’t know but guessing it had something to do with thermal vents and the chemical composition of the early oceans.
        >Why did humans develop a consciousness?
        An accident really, we selected for increased intelligence to be more successful in hunts and scavenging and consciousness was a byproduct of it.

    • #159363
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They devolved into skeptics vs SJWs

    • #159379
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Honestly it’s pretty funny cause when I first discovered atheism it went like
      >be anon, don’t really believe in religion at all sometimes pray to ‘god’ that i wish he’d turn me into a girl or that i’d stop getting bullied at school but otherwise don’t care
      >go on internet and see youtube videos of fundamentalist christians ranting about dinosaurs and satan putting fossils in the earth to trick us and that evolution is false and that the shape of the banana and the human hand proves god created the world
      >start thinking that religion is stupid
      >the more of this content i consume the more stupid I think religion is and the more I oppose it
      Started with fat people making fools of themselves and ranting about how you can be healthy at any size and just being delusional, then came feminism with much the same thing where seeing videos of women saying really stupid things made me become radicalised, then debates over race and then debates over homosexuality and transgenderism
      My views on religion changed pretty much overnight after I saw vids of christians defending evolution and the big bang theory

    • #159380
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >no new IP

      • #159382
        Anonymous
        Guest

        ?

    • #159388
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >People in here, mostly Americans, start doing everything just to piss off the left/women/gays/whatever the fuck
      >Want trump to win just to piss them off.
      >Pretend to hear god and be religious just to piss them off (still fap to the most sickening transgender/furry/whatever the fuck porn you can think of)
      >Pretend to be religious and pious and kind while being racist just to be edgy
      >Buy into whatever the fuck conservative think tanks throw them just to "own the libs"
      >These are the people that were simping for Lauren Southern just to own the libs
      >These are the people that clap for Nicki Minaj just to own the libs

      These are not human beings you are dealing with. Most atheists realized it’s pointless to argue with this kind of animal.
      My intuition is that there is like 1% of the population that actually believes in god or has had any spiritual experience, and 99% of trad larpers are just faking till they make it, believing they are making someone angry or believing they will lose their virginity this way (which they won’t).

      • #159389
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Calm down your superiority complex, shit for brains scrotebrain.

        • #159390
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Don’t you have some taliban rapist to clap for, to make the leftiest really lose it this time, you fat scrotebrain?
          You and your kind are the saddest group that has existed in decades. You have literally no self identity besides trying to aggravate some imaginary group. I can’t fathom being as low as you.

          • #159391
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Make sure to never miss your meds again. Go work the corner you compulsive masturbating shit stain, your fat ass is lower than the hobo who’s sleeping down your street.

            • #159392
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Schizo trad larper telling someone to take meds.
              Kek. The land of the freaks and the home of the frail.

              • #159393
                Anonymous
                Guest

                I’m telling you to take your meds, scrotebrain. Don’t samescrote.

                • #159394
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Are you a bot? Do you know what samescrote means?

                  • #159395
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    You must be new here.

                    • #159396
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Dude you’re a scrotebrain
                      t. not him

                      • #159397
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Dude you’re a dumbass
                        t. not him

        • #159400
          Anonymous
          Guest

          But he is right, I’m a practicing yogi and I’m literally disgusted at every pretense of "believer" I see in here, you’re all revolting.

      • #159413
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >>/X/
        Is that way

    • #159401
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Satanists recruiting through media, music …

    • #159407
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It’s getting popular again because "le pol chuds" are now Christians

      • #159408
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >>leftypol.org
        is that way

        • #159410
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I’m quoting those twitter contrarians who immigrated here you idjit

    • #159411
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Internet narcissists just jump on whatever trend is popping at the time and push whatever agenda they’re paid by special interests or government agencies to shill. I have no problem with atheists, but I started to find the internet atheist influencers annoying. But then again, I find all influencers freaking annoying, regardless of what they’re shilling.

    • #159415
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Nobody cares anymore. If someone says they are an atheist it isnt edgy. Debate me sis shit moved to political and social issues that attracted more views.

    • #159421
      Anonymous
      Guest

      oldscrotes left to get a life, newscrotes flooded in to have no life

    • #159424
      Anonymous
      Guest

      literally nobody was a christcuck back then, it’s a newscrote thing

    • #159426
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Christianity is virtually dead, with the exception of schizos
      My work is done, my battle is won

      • #159427
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Cope much? Your atheism is still and will always be a minority, scrotebrain.

        • #159429
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Anon says A
          >Assblasted christian (you) shows up to claim that he must be coping because B and C and D
          Seems like the one coping is someone else pal

          • #159430
            Anonymous
            Guest

            How is it not related to what he said, scrotebrained chimp? Stop samescroteging you loser.

            • #159431
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >y-you call me on my dumb shit y-you must be samescroteging
              Grow up kid

              • #159432
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Seethe cope and dilate, chud.

                • #159433
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  I accept your /poo/kek tier mantra as concession

                  • #159434
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    The only thing you’re conceding is your aids-ridden axe wound

                    • #159435
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Are you enjoying this?

                      • #159436
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        It feels nice to insult fragile scrotes like you, kek.

                      • #159437
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Word?

                      • #159438
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        ?

                      • #159439
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Being honest?

                      • #159440
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Yea

                      • #159441
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        How sad

                      • #159443
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Don’t be sad, i didn’t mean to hurt your feelings

                      • #159444
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Why are you deflecting? You know exactly what I mean. You’re not that stupid.

                      • #159446
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        No i don’t, what do you want? Want me to apologize and wipe the tears off your face?

                      • #159452
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I’m serious, I want to know the why you’re deflecting.

                      • #159453
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I’ll tell you once you stop sucking cocks, don’t worry

                      • #159454
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        And you keep doing it…

                      • #159455
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Go ahead, cry me a river you scrote.

                      • #159456
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I’m fine, actually

                      • #159457
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Awesome, i knew you’d get over it eventually

                      • #159458
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Why are you deflecting?

                      • #159460
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Uh oh he didn’t actually, he’s still crying

                      • #159462
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Dude, you aware this edgy act is just confirming how frustrated you are?

                      • #159464
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        You’re the one who seems frustrated here, I’m just chilling while you keep crying

                      • #159465
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Why am I frustrated?

                      • #159466
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Just looks like it it to me :^)

                      • #159467
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        So, no proofs?

                      • #159468
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Nah, not really :^)

                      • #159469
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Unimpressive

                      • #159472
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Damn… :^(

                      • #159473
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Do you not realize that you’re getting trolled? Just stop replying to him.

                      • #159474
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I realized long ago, her second reply in fact. Just wanted to see how much of a mess she could do.

                      • #159476
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Actually this was actually my reply too, and you’re still getting trolled

                      • #159478
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Oh no

      • #159428
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Get out of LULZ, AmazingAtheist, you scrote.

      • #159442
        Anonymous
        Guest

        What did you gain? No seriously, what good came of pooping all over a religion for years? Society didn’t get better or anything. Idk what was won

      • #159481
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I politely disagree

    • #159445
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Christscrotes having a melty

    • #159448
      Anonymous
      Guest

      […]

      >people are having an argument
      >therfor god not real

      • #159450
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Get this triggered and defensive, not a good look

        • #159451
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Welcome to the internet, snowflake

    • #159471
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Much of atheism is a subconscious racist manifestation of whites.
      You don’t attack Islam for philosophical/theological reasons, it’s attacked for being a PoC philosophy. Moreover, Christianity is overrepresented among PoCs and the poor in the US. This has been and should be rightfully shamed.

      • #159502
        Anonymous
        Guest

        wtf i love atheism now

      • #159552
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >NOOOO WHY DO YOU FOCUS ON THE RELIGION LIKE 80% OF ALL AMERICANS HELD IN 2001 INSTEAD OF THE RELIGION HELD BY LIKE 3% OF THE POPULATION?
        I don’t get this cope
        and before you seethe you can apply this similar inability to distinguish in the situation in different regions in the burqa debate. a feminist screeching about it being about female choice might be (partially) correct for a muslim woman in the US, but it sure as fuck doesn’t apply in the middle east

    • #159475
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They won. At least in europe.

    • #159479
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Because doomerism can only last for so long before start to realize that it’s not a good mental state to constantly be in

      • #159480
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Christianity taken to it’s logical conclusion is nihilism
        Are you implying Christianity don’t invoke doomer vibes?

        • #159482
          Anonymous
          Guest

          It doesn’t. Christianity gives people the promise of the resurrection in a new world, free of sin and death. To obtain that you must receive the mercy of Christ and the Holy Spirit, which will transform you into the likeness of Christ. This means in a material sense that those who want that promise will act kind towards others, etc. Aggressive atheism is nihilistic to it’s core, there’s no reason for altruism or even advancing in life. It’s all just doom and gloom. It doesn’t provide a reason to wake up in the morning and deal with the bullshit of the world.

          • #159484
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Wrong

    • #159483
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Two main reasons:
      >Atheism plus
      Some people wanted to incorporate social justice causes into atheism, this caused a schizm between social justice atheists and the ones who wanted to dunk on Christians and feminists at the same time.
      >Apathy
      There’s only so many things you can say to Christians and only so many things Christians can say to atheists before one or both start yelling and get bored with nobody changing their mind.

    • #159487
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Atheism was the tool to open up marriage for everybody and destroy the little remnants of the traditional christians that were left in the west. When the atheists did their work for cultural deconstruction they were discarded like a used condom and the age of the social justic warrior had come which freshly left their indoctrination chambers from the marxist universities.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j97MXi9wwE4

      • #159488
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >hour long YT pseud video which never gets to the point

    • #159504
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They became the religious scrotes who spam this board

      • #159507
        Anonymous
        Guest

        No stronger argument against religion than the religious after all.

      • #159518
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Wouldn’t surprise me if this was true.

    • #159511
      Anonymous
      Guest

      So how long until the woke crowd and the outright communist breadtubers lose steam and get forgotten too? It happened to atheism, it happened to right-wing youtube (you can say it’s not true all you want, but Trump getting elected was the worst thing to happen to them because no longer could they do anything other than simp for him lest they get abandoned by their fans), it’ll happen here.

      • #159522
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I give it 4-5 years

    • #159513
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Youtube changed their rules about monetization.
      Later, youtube changed their algorithms to favor political and pure clickbait videos over everything else.

    • #159517
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >why did [contrarian thing] stop being popular when it was no longer contrarian?

    • #159524
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Internet influencer troll scrotes are obnoxious attention-seeking disengenuous superficial status-seeking POS’s in general. If you’re an atheist you don’t have to shit out over 50 million knob gobbling no-talent videos about it. Same goes for if you’re a Christian, Muslim, nofapper, and all the other scrote internet movements. All that shit is gay and pointless. You can say your opinion position once and that’s it. No need to keep saying the same shit over and over in 5 million different videos.

    • #159527
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I went down the rabbit hole and it wass glorious

      • #159528
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Woke af (both 2010 meaning and current meaning)

    • #159529
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Unironically because the board changed. There are a couple of explanations but the shifting landscape is probably the best one
      1.Between 2007-2012 there was a massive amount of damn near militant aethism online like OP says but the problem is that this is a relatively small playing field all things considered. You had your big names being big and their impact being widespread but you also had a lot of other shit bubbling up to become problems in the future. 08′ recession was very active in people’s lives and a whole myriad of other shit going on so in hindsight we should’ve seen online discourse getting ready to go to the political sphere rather than a strictly religious one for a while (not saying these are mutually exclusive).

      2.The issue is goals and endgames The endgame of the biggest names, dawkins, hitchens, etc. was to have some form of social, cultural, and most importantly governmental reform to not be gripped by religion in its restrictive ways and this was desired to be more or less a global desire. Here’s the issue the big names offline and the mobs online have VERY different goals. Online was literally just to shit on people who wanted to put religion into everything and wanted to start moving into the online sphere. Online it seemed like a response to get out rather than stop believing. Shit someone call me out on this but I’m pretty sure old /pol was just lolbertarians and dunking on the stereotypical baptists who wanted to start up satanic panic part 3. Once that was pretty much done the movement was over at least online and then shit got dicey…
      3. Political landscapes got big online and when people realized that the nature of religion is a matter of faith at its core (at least Christianity in this context) and you can’t argue someone out of it they started losing steam. And as people became more politically inclined you started seeing shifts. People started to speculate that the issues aren’t religious but economic and political cont.

      • #159533
        Anonymous
        Guest

        3 cont. As online spaces got bigger and more people joined them the biggest issues were made present. And those were political issues as the next best thing.
        >Unironically God is dead and we killed him
        Nothing else was large enough or broad enough to have enough discourse for a long enough time to have a movement that was large enough to keep the steam going of the same people so they fractured and split. To make matters worse the online spaces were about to get hit with the biggest war ever seen cause 2 years after then od OP’s timeline 2012, was Gamergate in 2014.
        This is where my belief in what is objective ends and my speculation and openness to be critiqued begins. Let me go on record and say this. Gamergate was not only the nail in the coffin for big aggressive atheism online like it was but it was also the pandora’s box that made the internet space what it is today. When GG came into the picture a lot of the atheists online picked sides and those sides set up the spaces we see today in my opinion. I know this gets into e-celeb bs so ill keep this VERY brief. We can see the slow transition from online atheism campaigns, to GG debates to political shitflinging in a clear line if you look at the right people. Amazing Atheist is probably the best example but Sargon has this trend to if I’m not mistaken. So long story short Atheism online in a large aggressive sense fell apart cause you can’t argue away someone’s faith, bigger shit was going on, and the motivations and end goals of each branch or group of the movement were very different and were convenient allies rather than loyal ones

    • #159531
      Anonymous
      Guest

      One half became SJWs, the other half came to the conclusion that progressivists, or Muslims are a million times more batshit crazy than Christians and are either themselves larping as tradcaths now, or at least tolerating Christians.

    • #159532
      Anonymous
      Guest

      *becomes vilified*

      • #159534
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Dawkins is the only one of this old guard who actually had some semblance of balls and principles. The rest ran away tails between their legs, when they were called racist for criticizing Islam.

        • #159535
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >when they were called racist for criticizing Islam
          This has been repeatedly refuted ITT yet you keep repeating it, holy shit

          • #159536
            Anonymous
            Guest

            No it hasn’t.Cope on, ‘sister’-

            • #159542
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Cope about what? You being a dumb fuck who spouts dumb shit?

              • #159543
                Anonymous
                Guest

                seethe and dilate please

                • #159546
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  ?

      • #159537
        Anonymous
        Guest

        YOU CAN’T JUST SAY THAT
        *retroactively removes your humanist of the year award*

    • #159538
      Anonymous
      Guest

      some of the "new atheist" types ended up in the HBD/genetics realm when the SJWs infested too much

    • #159539
      Anonymous
      Guest

      1. Fedoras. Militant atheism was cool, until it wasn’t. Having the mirror turned on us made people dial back their behavior.

      2. SJWs. The start of this was probably Rebecca Watson and Elevatorgate, followed by the SJW scare and culminating in Gamer Gate. The now-ridiculed atheists who were predominately in it for the intellectual superiority found a new whipping boy.

      3. Political polarization. Gamergate was a pathway to the alt-right, and the atheists who went down this route fell in line with the ideology, which at the very least pretends religion is necessary for society to function. On the other hand, there was a reaction on the left to this movement, and atheists on the left began to look critically at their own beliefs.

      • #159540
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Fedoras
        >us
        Fuck off

      • #159541
        Anonymous
        Guest

        4. New Atheism eats itself. The atheism of the ‘four horsemen’ was overwhelmingly targeted at Islam. Left-leaning atheists began attacking this somewhere around Elevatorgate, and tried to make the movement more inclusive. By this point Hitchens died, Harris and Dennett faded from public discourse, and Dawkins and the e-celebrity atheists drifted right. The new left gets swallowed up by general progressivist politics and with that New Atheism disappears

        • #159547
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >By this point Hitchens died
          Lucky guy didn’t have to live to see all the scrotery that came after him. 100% guarantee that if Hitchens was still alive today some Twitter journalists would have written a hitpiece on him titled something like "How Christopher Hitchens’ Problematic Rhetoric on Islam Fuels Hate and Far-Right Violence", and he would have been cancelled and banned from several platforms.

          • #159550
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Compared to the many death threats he got from Islamists, he’d probably welcome this by comparison.

      • #159544
        Anonymous
        Guest

        kind of this
        fedora atheists started talking shit about islam and other controversial subjects so the left cut them off

        • #159551
          Anonymous
          Guest

          New Atheism was always about Islam. There was obviously works that stood on their own like The God Delusion, but people like Hitchens and Ayaan Hirsi Ali got significant airtime on cable news to talk about atheism. Leftists supported Hitch as far as he endorsed gay rights and womens rights, the split was when they realised the threats posed on western rights by secular western conservatives were greater than the threats posed by middle eastern fundamentalists.

    • #159558
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It came on the heels of post-9/11 hysteria which blamed religion as the root cause. 9/11 bad religion did 9/11 so religion bad buy my book, etc

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