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September 25, 2021 at 3:29 am #85646
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September 25, 2021 at 3:33 am #85647
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Guestthey didn’t completely accept it. If you look at a religious map of africa, the north is muslim while the south I’d christian. however, in the christian areas many still worship their traditional spirits and gods along with jesus. some even worship jesus as they would with a pagan god and not necessarily in the traditional christian way.
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September 25, 2021 at 3:34 am #85648
My 23&me results= 0% European, 98% Anatolian, 1% Central Asian, 1% Sudanese
GuestMissionary: do you want school, food, hospital care?
People: yes
Missionary: ok first the Bible-
September 25, 2021 at 3:36 am #85649
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Guest>this name
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September 25, 2021 at 3:38 am #85650
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Guest>1% Sudanese
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September 25, 2021 at 5:19 am #85653
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GuestAt that percentage it’s just noise, probably some distant cousin had a grandpa who had some zanj blood in him, or else the software just bugged.
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September 25, 2021 at 8:20 am #85659
My 23&me results= 0% European, 98% Anatolian, 1% Central Asian, 1% Sudanese
GuestA full 100% Sudanese ancestor 5-8 generations back
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September 25, 2021 at 8:21 am #85660
Anonymous
Guestscrote.
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September 25, 2021 at 8:29 am #85661
My 23&me results= 0% European, 98% Anatolian, 1% Central Asian, 1% Sudanese
GuestCompelling argument
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September 25, 2021 at 10:18 pm #85680
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GuestNot that anon but scrote.
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September 25, 2021 at 11:15 pm #85685
My 23&me results= 0% European, 98% Anatolian, 1% Central Asian, 1% Sudanese
GuestMy Kushite-Nubian-Sudanese ancestors were building empires while you were being enslaved by my other Etruscan-Anatolian-Roman ancestors or by my Central Asian ancestors for that matter. Cope.
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September 26, 2021 at 12:18 am #85690
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Guest>roach claiming european etruscans and italics as his ancestors
>not realising the majority of slaves in the Roman Empire were sourced from Anatolia and the Levant-
September 26, 2021 at 12:24 am #85691
Anonymous
GuestEtruscans were 60-90% Tur_Barchin aka Anatolian.
Also the majority of slaves were Germanic/Danubian/Greek
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September 26, 2021 at 1:52 am #85697
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Guest>Kushite-Nubian-Sudanese ancestors were building empires
Nordists are even more diluted and we wuz than Hoteps.At least hoteps have some semblance of evidence.
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September 25, 2021 at 10:28 pm #85681
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September 26, 2021 at 1:50 am #85696
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Guest>zanj
Sudanese are Bantu now? LOL
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September 25, 2021 at 6:37 am #85655
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GuestBasically this. Christian, in particular Catholic missionary efforts often go hand to hand with building schools and hospitals. On the one hand this is good because it provides needed infrastructure and services people need to survive and improve themselves.On the other hand it encourages them to become Catholic. It might be a hundred years until the over educated great grandchildren of these converts realize that they don’t need the Church to also have schools and hospitals like people have in the west.
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September 25, 2021 at 8:11 pm #85671
Anonymous
GuestUniversities and schools in the west were also all originally built by the church.
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September 25, 2021 at 9:08 pm #85674
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GuestYeah they were, until enough of the population was educated and decided they could have all that stuff without the Church. See what I’m getting at?
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September 25, 2021 at 11:58 pm #85688
Anonymous
GuestThe best schools are still catholic schools. It was only for the past 100 years that the governments started building schools and look where that got us.
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September 26, 2021 at 1:01 am #85693
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Guest>It was only for the past 100 years that the governments started building schools and look where that got us.
massive jumps in literacy and school choice.Christianity just came along and had better stories (the Bible).
>Christianity just came along and had better stories (the Bible).
Not exactly. what Christianity also had was missionaries who cracked down on local faiths and expressions of it backed by the power of the colonial state.>On the one hand this is good because it provides needed infrastructure and services people need to survive and improve themselves
in theory in practice it extremely varied with the missionaries being props of the state or willingly working alongside the colonies goals.>On the other hand it encourages them to become Catholic. It might be a hundred years until the over educated great grandchildren of these converts realize that they don’t need the Church to also have schools and hospitals like people have in the west.
Ehhh Christianity and dick sucking Euros was really beaten into many people on the continent so many often kinda express views that ironically would not be out of place in a paternalistic colonial environment. Look how many some "linguistic elites" sperg the fuck out in autistic rage over African languages being used in forma settings. Whitey has been gone for some time but the ghostly pith helmet remains.-
September 26, 2021 at 7:01 am #85700
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September 26, 2021 at 8:47 am #85704
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GuestAnd you focus only on that aspect only even when child sacrifice varied on the location.
For the most part they’ll just do whatever a white man tells them to do.
Either that or they adhere to their impression of some old timey whitey.
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September 26, 2021 at 8:55 am #85708
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Guest>Not exactly. what Christianity also had was missionaries who cracked down on local faiths and expressions of it backed by the power of the colonial state
Delusional leftyhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/index_section8.shtml
>Christianity was an agent of great change in Africa. It destabilised the status quo, bringing new opportunities to some, and undermining the power of others. With the Christian missions came education, literacy and hope for the disadvantaged. However, the spread of Christianity paved the way for commercial speculators, and, in its original rigid European form, denied people pride in their culture and ceremonies
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September 26, 2021 at 4:18 am #85698
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GuestAt least in the US the best schools are some elite boarding schools that only old money can get their kids into. There are a small number of Catholic schools in this club.
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September 26, 2021 at 7:10 am #85701
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Guest>great grandchildren of these converts realize that they don’t need the Church to also have schools and hospitals like people have in the west.
Atheists aren’t charitable, they would never give money to fund schools over there unless it involved sacrificing more babies to moloch
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September 25, 2021 at 11:28 pm #85686
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GuestThat is definitely a factor. But we should also consider how Africans would have seen the comparative wealth and technology of Christian Europeans. That alone could be perceived as proof that Christianity was the right path. I have read about native Americans expressing this sentiment upon first contact.
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September 26, 2021 at 12:15 am #85689
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September 26, 2021 at 1:37 am #85695
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GuestYeah pretty much
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September 26, 2021 at 1:37 pm #85710
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GuestBasically this
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September 25, 2021 at 5:16 am #85651
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GuestBecause converting to Christianity gave them socioeconomic privileges. My grandfathers were able to attend universities in England and America because they were educated by Christian missionaries
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September 25, 2021 at 5:18 am #85652
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Guestthey don’t, they adopt some bizarre hybrid faith that virtually no one outside of africa would recognize as christianity
also the above posted reasons-
September 25, 2021 at 1:56 pm #85662
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Guest>they don’t, they adopt some bizarre hybrid faith that virtually no one outside of africa would recognize as christianity
So did Europeans and Latin Americans to a degree (though there are tens, if not hundreds of millions of normal Christians in Africa too).
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September 25, 2021 at 7:13 pm #85668
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GuestLiterally every single Christian does that. sycnretism was vital to even make the faith palatable to people.
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September 25, 2021 at 5:21 am #85654
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Guest>being a christscrote in 2021
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September 25, 2021 at 6:40 am #85656
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Guest>being an atheist after 2009
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September 25, 2021 at 2:17 pm #85664
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GuestWhat happened in 2009? Not that I would disagree that atheism is very sad cope.
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September 25, 2021 at 7:11 pm #85667
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GuestHow is it a sad cope?
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September 25, 2021 at 9:20 pm #85676
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Guest>nothing happens after you die
>therefore i can do anything i want whenever and nothing will happen to me-
September 25, 2021 at 11:39 pm #85687
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Guesthow does being religious change this? I’ve seen plenty of the supposed faithful lead thoughtless lives of self-absorption, using their beliefs less like a morality guide and more like a rod to beat others over the head with. Hell how often do you hear about an anti-gay pastor getting outed for freaking little boys or using male prostitutes? They’re religion certainly didn’t stop them
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September 25, 2021 at 10:32 pm #85682
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Guesteuphoria happend
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September 25, 2021 at 8:04 am #85657
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GuestI guess it helps that like half of them were already quasi-monotheistic
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September 25, 2021 at 7:15 pm #85669
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Guest>half of them were already quasi-monotheistic
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September 25, 2021 at 10:37 pm #85683
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GuestThe majority of bantus, southern nigerian, ghanaian were somewhat monotheistic
And a lot of the rest was already islamised
The vast majority of Africa was monotheistic one way or another before direct colonialism
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September 25, 2021 at 10:56 pm #85684
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Guest>The vast majority of Africa was monotheistic one way or another before direct colonialism
source ?
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September 25, 2021 at 8:08 am #85658
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GuestHaving read "Things fall apart" I assume most native african religons suffered the same problem european pagan religions did, they didn’t help the poor/weak and thus it was easy for Christianity to do so and spread.
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September 25, 2021 at 7:10 pm #85666
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Guest>they didn’t help the poor/weak and thus it was easy for Christianity to do so and spread.
Chritianity cracked down and heavily persecuted local religions on top of making the local converts be really batshit obsessed about wiping pagans out.
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September 25, 2021 at 2:05 pm #85663
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GuestThe Kingdom of the Kongo became Christian before Colombus discovered America iirc
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September 25, 2021 at 8:41 pm #85673
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Guest>1483, the Portuguese explorer Diogo Cão sailed up the uncharted Congo River, finding Kongo villages and becoming the first European to encounter the Kongo kingdom.[21] Cão left men in Kongo and took Kongo nobles to Portugal. He returned with the Kongo nobles in 1485. At that point the ruling king, Nzinga a Nkuwu, converted to Christianity.[22] Cão returned to the kingdom with Roman Catholic priests and soldiers in 1491, baptizing Nzinga a Nkuwu as well as his principal nobles, starting with the ruler of Soyo, the coastal province. At the same time a literate Kongo citizen returning from Portugal opened the first school. Nzinga a Nkuwu took the Christian name of João I in honor of Portugal’s king at the time, João II.
WTF?
So the some nobles were brought to europe? They so the architecture and the technology. They returned and told the king what they saw. He converted to christianity because he either thought it was a good idea to have the same religion as the portuguese or he thought christianity would bring the level of technology that the europeans have?-
September 25, 2021 at 10:07 pm #85678
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GuestHe converted because he believed in God, anon.
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September 25, 2021 at 7:00 pm #85665
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Guestthe clothes and anonymity makes it much more appealing to me than the god stuff.
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September 25, 2021 at 7:17 pm #85670
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GuestAfrican pastors are wild
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September 25, 2021 at 8:22 pm #85672
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Guestthey already had the ability to high level mathematics unlike the chinese, and were seduced by its Neoplatonism.
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September 25, 2021 at 9:19 pm #85675
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Guest>be you
>libtard
>hate Christians
>think you are virtuas
>do absolutely nothing for the poor Africans>be Christian
>reads Bible everyday
>Bible tell you to love you neighbor and spread the word
>spread the word
>realise that neighbor is poor as shit
>build schools, hospitals and shelters to help neighbor
>neighbor asks why Christian is doing this for free
>Christian shows neighbor Bible
>Neighbor adopts Christianity-
September 25, 2021 at 9:49 pm #85677
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Guest>be christian
>be better liberal than liberals
powerful argumentDEUS VULT
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September 25, 2021 at 10:14 pm #85679
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Guest>give all your money away and love everybody
founding precepts of baby jesus, christians were the original hippies.
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September 26, 2021 at 1:07 am #85694
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Guest>do absolutely nothing for the poor Africans
They do a lot.
Many Christians just come to Africa to feel good and preach stuff that doesn’t help much as well as peddling/preaching stuff that is harmful to the very people they claim to be saving. Africa is just a playground for them were hey if they can’t flex their power back home because of social and political changes they’ll go to Africa where it’s ripe for the picking.Because converting was tied to getting access to stuff. You didn’t convert you got jackshit. If you wanted you or your kids to not work the shitty jobs where your life was disposable and replaceable you had to be exposed to missionary education.
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September 26, 2021 at 8:51 am #85707
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September 26, 2021 at 12:36 am #85692
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GuestBecause privative societies, especially those with no writing, rely on stories handed from person to person, and generation to generation. Oral tradition was the basis for laws, behavior and societal foundations.
Christianity just came along and had better stories (the Bible).
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September 26, 2021 at 4:20 am #85699
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GuestFor the most part they’ll just do whatever a white man tells them to do.
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September 26, 2021 at 8:46 am #85703
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Guestbecause it was more sophisticated than the ooga booga folk religions of Africa
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September 26, 2021 at 8:48 am #85705
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Guestsophistication doesn’t matter. Especially since Christianity as preached to the third world is often an extremely bare bones rendition of it lol. Tell me how exactly is Christianity more sophisticated.
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September 26, 2021 at 8:50 am #85706
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Guestmonotheism organized structure and hierarchy it’s an entire institution with prestige compared to folk religions
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September 26, 2021 at 9:04 am #85709
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Guestlow IQ so live by instinct which is good at detecting authenticity and truth.
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