Why did people use to believe in crazy medical treatments like this?

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    • #56667
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    • #56668
      Anonymous
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      Leaches were scientifically proven to help in the past few years.

      • #56675
        Anonymous
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        Leeches nowadays are used as a source of anti-coagulant during delicate surgeries, such as those involving blood vessels in the eye

        It’s really amazing how such medical science can persist to this day, and still be used for a similar reason all of these years

        • #56677
          Anonymous
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          One of the reasons that "Orthodox" medicine triumphed so hard as an institution in the early 1900s was that they quietly looked into any alternative/traditional medicine practices for anything valuable and snagged whatever actually worked. To this day medical researchers still quietly do this.

          • #56716
            Anonymous
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            We don’t talk about that.

          • #56737
            Anonymous
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            yeah it turns out trial and error treatments that eventually worked over the course of centuries benefits medical science because that’s literally what science does except faster

      • #56729
        Anonymous
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        To help against the plague?

    • #56669
      Anonymous
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      The good thing about science is that you can actually test a claim if you don’t believe it; this would be more adequate for religion though because you can’t really disagree with god since he is almighty, always correct
      Therefore give me more shekels

    • #56670
      Anonymous
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      Half of the modern American medical industry is legit snake oil. People are just as gullible now.

    • #56671
      Anonymous
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      >Your brain is a girl’s we need to cut your dick off
      Why do people believe crazy treatments like this?

      • #56672
        Anonymous
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        That’s not even how that works though retard

        • #56678
          Anonymous
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          You’re lucky LULZ won’t let me upload the webm I have saved of how they actually do it
          Retard.

        • #56698
          Anonymous
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          >born in the wrong body
          >sex reassignment surgery
          >transgender toddlers
          Dilate and kys

          • #56702
            Anonymous
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            You talk a lot about kids; you might be unhealthily attracted to them

            • #56710
              Anonymous
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              >Caring about children is unhealthy.
              have a nice day rat.

            • #56726
              Anonymous
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              The deflection isn’t working, trannoid.

      • #56684
        Anonymous
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        It’s a tool of population control by power hungry elites

        • #56704
          Anonymous
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          Do you really want trannies breeding?

      • #56717
        Anonymous
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        >>Your brain is a girl’s we need to cut your dick off
        >Why do people believe crazy treatments like this?
        because they’re white, and whites lack the ability to reason logically.

        • #56719
          Anonymous
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          >Is this thread shitty enough?
          >No bruh, let’s get some racebaiting into this as well

          • #56730
            Anonymous
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            Butthurt faggot. Everyday the words melanoid/spic/garden gnome/chink are tossed around on this board. Grow a spine.

          • #56740
            Anonymous
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            it’s literally only whites that do that shit though

    • #56674
      Anonymous
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      Jesus Christ this is bad history; A lot of doctors were actually trying to push away from leeches, but they were dependent on pay people would give them.

      Many people thought that "good" doctors offered leeches as a service, and demanded they provide it if it was not listed; If the doctor refused and/or tried to explain that it did not work they would lose most paying customers and go bankrupt. Meanwhile Doctors who wanted to make money would see this and advertise strongly they supported such practices.

      It did not help that sometimes what people needed was to lower their blood pressured, so leeches and/or blood-letting would actually work in those scenarios, increasing the popularity of such pratices.

      tl;dr: The way doctors worked in the US before the federal government organized them post-civil war and the 1900s was wild.

      • #56682
        Anonymous
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        >tl;dr: The way doctors worked in the US before the federal government organized them post-civil war and the 1900s was wild.
        That’s true in general, medicine was till very recently incredible primitive and is still rapidly advancing each decade.

      • #56705
        Anonymous
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        >If the doctor refused and/or tried to explain that it did not work they would lose most paying customers and go bankrupt
        Incredible, so doctors were the same as the are now.

      • #56720
        Anonymous
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        A lot of doctors were actually trying to push away from leeches

        So there was a time they accepted leeches. 0/10 try to debunk harder.

    • #56681
      Anonymous
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      In 1000 years I feel they will say the same about our modern pharmacuticals

    • #56685
      Anonymous
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      science is not as fun as people make it out to be. shit doesn’t make sense until it’s fully understood, so the starting point is completely senseless. people don’t like senseless. they like shit that fits their preconcieved notion of what the world is and how it works.

    • #56688
      Anonymous
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      >science is a cult and politicians use it to justify their bullshit
      Absolutely applies to sociology and gender studies.

      • #56689
        Anonymous
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        Yeah, the problem is that I doubt you would accept that conclusion applying to you because clearly you’re not in a cult even though your entire life you’ve been told what to do by your family, by your state education system and by society. See, everyone that doesn’t agree with you is in a cult; because apparently you’ve solved all the problems human psychology, and how dare people question you – for you have found the righteous and truthful path

        • #56697
          Anonymous
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          >everyone that doesn’t agree with you is in a cult
          >you have found the righteous and truthful path
          Nice straw men there. No, I am perfectly capable of seeing the difference between honest people who come to different conclusions than me and ideologues who make stuff up to support their political goals. And I’m rather not alone in my assessment that certain self-declared scientists are really not scientists at all.

          This. The triggered reply from the tranny under this post just further confirms it.
          Scientism is a cult.

          >Denying reality won’t stop people from using science.
          Which is exactly why people keep getting more and more skeptic as the years go by, your bullshit is getting seen through. Novaxxers were seen as tinfoil hatters five years ago, yet now it takes national propaganda campaigns for people to accept the covid vaccine.

          Sorry friend but I don’t think I want your support in this. No, "Science" as a whole is not a cult, but a great concept and endeavour to increase our knowledge on the world, which most scientists follow in honesty. It’s not their fault fringe groups claim its good name to push ideology.

          • #56700
            Anonymous
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            >"Science"
            Nice fake quotes, cletus.
            If you’re unfamiliar with a term you should google it

          • #56701
            Anonymous
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            >Science as a whole is not a cult, but a great concept and endeavour to increase our knowledge on the world, which most scientists follow in honesty.
            Most might be pushing it, but on the whole I don’t disagree. The issue is not so much with the scientists, who for that most part are average people trying to do their jobs, but with the media who subvert scientific findings to push agendas and pressure academics to conform if their studies reach unpleasant conclusions. When even nobel prize winners are at risk of being canceled, you know it’s bad.
            People like you trying to screech down skeptics do more damage than anything else as well by the way. Most "science deniers" are simply reasonable people who don’t trust political operators to tell them the truth (hardly an unreasonable position), and by asking for unconditional compliance to the authority of the name Science rather than the scientific method itself you do nothing but further erode the trust people have in those who call thmselves scientists.

            • #56707
              Anonymous
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              >People like you trying to screech down skeptics
              Err?

          • #56711
            Anonymous
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            >Science" as a whole is not a cult, but a great concept and endeavour to increase our knowledge on the world, which most scientists follow in honesty

            Imagine genuinely believing that scientists are more honorable than priests, without really you’ve started seeing scientists as priests.

            • #56713
              Anonymous
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              More baseless accusations. And yes, current day scientists are more trustworthy than 15th century priests… but so are current day priests.

              • #56714
                Anonymous
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                >Your accusation is baseless!
                >Also concedes that my accusation is accurate.

                • #56715
                  Anonymous
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                  >you’ve started seeing scientists as priests
                  Idiot.

                  • #56722
                    Anonymous
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                    You objectively have. You genuinely believe that scientists aren’t merely fallible and passionately biased people doing a job that they might lie to protect, they’re figures of moral virtue that represent the highest ideals of society. That’s a priest. You can call it something else, but the idea in your head of what a scientist is, is actually a priest.

                    • #56725
                      Anonymous
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                      You are talking out of your ass, entirely. Maybe you’re confusing me with someone else?

                    • #56732
                      Anonymous
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                      Christfag cope. If you don’t believe everything you hear about scientific studies then that’s understandable. If you take this as a sign that garden gnome religion is the truth than you are not going to make it.

      • #56690
        Anonymous
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        This. The triggered reply from the tranny under this post just further confirms it.
        Scientism is a cult.

        • #56691
          Anonymous
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          Denying reality won’t stop people from using science. Cope all you want, but it doesn’t change any facts

          • #56693
            Anonymous
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            >Denying reality won’t stop people from using science.
            Which is exactly why people keep getting more and more skeptic as the years go by, your bullshit is getting seen through. Novaxxers were seen as tinfoil hatters five years ago, yet now it takes national propaganda campaigns for people to accept the covid vaccine.

      • #56733
        Anonymous
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        those two have to be among the very worst offenders of any academic field out there.

    • #56699
      Anonymous
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      >Homeopathy

    • #56703
      Anonymous
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      This is a good book on the subject. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OI0E6I/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

      But the tl;dr is that it worked for Hemachromatosis, which was a relatively common disease in Europe at the time.

    • #56709
      Anonymous
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      >muh science
      Meanwhile, in the real world, science can’t figure out if Covid-19 evolved zoonotically or was created in a lab. On top of that research into the question was suppressed because "Orange man bad" and since Trump thought it was a bioweapon OBVIOUSLY it couldn’t be. Science has to close ranks against the "racist conspiracy theory" that China might be responsible because the public can never be allowed to believe Trump is right about anything!

      https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory.html

      FUCK science

    • #56712
      Anonymous
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      Tbh most of the science that people don’t believe is of minor importance.
      >Medicine
      Hurts themselves or their kids at most.
      >Evolution
      Who cares what random schmucks think, the biologists who draw actual use out of it do. And frankly, teaching children bullshit is what school does all the time. The clever ones will tell the difference.
      >Climate science
      Not even the ones who believe in it have the will to actually do something. It’s all virtue signalling and minor stuff that doesn’t help but at least doesn’t hurt too much. "B-but I use a jute bag now" sure you do kid, that’ll totally make up for your last vacation to australia.

      The only thing I really hate are mask refusers. Those fucks should be charged with attempted bodily harm, simple as.
      >B-but the science isn’t 100% certain
      >So I won’t wear that tiny piece of cloth that could save your life
      poopyholes.

    • #56727
      Anonymous
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      he’s right you know? as past civilization realised it, soul aka our blood, is were illness are gathered
      why do you think HIV attacks blood? lecumia etc
      those are soul illnesses aka blood, many come from blood, why do you think blood transfusion is so popular people need to learn about it
      your blood is pretty important

    • #56728
      Anonymous
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      Leeches actually work. And it’s no more crazy than cutting the dick off a 6 year old because he thinks he’s a girl, then putting him on television as a freakshow.

      • #56731
        Anonymous
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        leeches work in certain circumstances but not for the vast majority of diseases they were used to treat in centuries past

    • #56734
      Anonymous
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      Humoral medicine had been the standard in Europe ever sense Hippocratic Corpus was compiled. Stuff like leaches and bloodletting was in line with the discoveries of Galen and Hippocrates from that period. The publication and translation of the Kitah al-Qanum into medieval Europe around the 1100’s kept those traditions alive, as it was the most comprehensive account of Galen and Hippocrates works available in Latin.

      Although "Muh christian dark ages" is largely a meme, medicine is one area where it has some truth. The church expressly forbid autopsy as desecrating a body for most of its history, and because they had such a "complete" cannon of medicine for how the body worked no one really dared to question the Humorist interpretation of the body till the renascence.

      TL:DR
      They had a massive cannon of medicine, most of which was wrong, and no one bothered to check if the old masters had got it wrong.

      • #56735
        Anonymous
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        >Although "Muh christian dark ages" is largely a meme, medicine is one area where it has some truth. The church expressly forbid autopsy as desecrating a body for most of its history
        Absolute rot. Not only was dissection practiced throughout the middle ages, in some places (like in Sicily under Frederick II’s reign) it was even mandatory for physicians to have attended to one during their education. We have full records of autopsies performed by doctors like Mondino de Luzzi in the 1310s and Galeazzo di Santa Sofia in 1404.
        The problem is the same that plagues every aspect of the "dark ages" cultural life: a horrendous lack of textual remains through which to understand what the fuck was going on back then.

        • #56736
          Anonymous
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          >We have full records of autopsies performed by doctors like Mondino de Luzzi in the 1310s and Galeazzo di Santa Sofia in 1404.
          not medieval ages retard that’s the renascence already

          • #56743
            Anonymous
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            Frederick II was full middle ages

          • #56744
            Anonymous
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            No. It’s medieval until 1453

    • #56738
      Anonymous
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      Yeah, it’s totally crazy. Anyways, let’s cut your son’s foreskin off. Trust me, it’s cleaner.

    • #56746
      Anonymous
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      Leeches are based and extremely beneficial when used correctly.

      You’re just a low information retard with a bad case of chronological snobbery.

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