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Why aren’t you using Debian?
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I use it
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i tried using it, Arch/Arch woke af distros are better for what i need.
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which is?
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Blender (i couldn’t get Cuda to work with Blender on Debian), Unity, playing the occasional game.
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because they killed Ian to get system d into it
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sis named debian after his girlfriend debra and himself.
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Debra left Ian
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debIAN without Ian isn’t the same, I miss him
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its so sad
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Gentoo suits my needs a bit better but Debian is also pretty nice
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i just switched from windows to debian, having fun
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I use debian for mariadb/postgres/samba as domain controller servers.
Other servers are on Arch and desktops are on Mint if recent hardware or Arch if trash hardware.
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>Other servers are on Arch
sis u a dum-dum
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I use suse.
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i like my wifi to just werk right away
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Because I want to have a distro with 5.15 and I don’t want to wait
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sid got 5.15 yesterday. maybe you have reasons for not using sid, but I just wanted to mention
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because I wish to use a distro with packages that aren’t already obsolete upon installation.
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I do use Debian.
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mint is woke af on debian
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Because you’re queer.
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every time I start a project, or learn a new skill, I create a debian build to suit the task. a vm for publishing a newsletter is going to be radically different from one where you’re trying to figure out nginx and mariadb.
My host machines are always Ubuntu or Windows, though.
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i like debian. my internet is slow. i dont have to update package all the time
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Because last time i tried, 6 years ago i still had more trouble to install software on Debian than on Ubuntu. It probably changed, so i’ll wait until the next time i have to do an install, and install it.
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why did he do it LULZ
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He didn’t do it, he was murdered.
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I am
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On the desktop I like Ubuntu’s defaults better than Debian gnome.
I used to use a Debian testing with i3 for a long time. Then I got a job and became a normie. -
i do, i use it on every server/vps i have and i mean my laptop distro is a fork of it.
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I am, I’m using Devuan. systemd gets on my nerves with the "a stop job is running" every reboot/shutdown.
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>a stop job is running
What is that? I thought I was the only one.>t. jumped ship from windows
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For me, it was software that I installed that ran on boot with systemd, eventually it prevented me from rebooting and shutting down altogether because the timer would just get longer and longer. But with anything else besides systemd I don’t have those issues.
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>systemd points out that one of my shitty services has a problem
>lmao fuck systemd, i’ll just ignore the problem and move on to some meme trash, fuck actually solving issues!-
I didn’t move on until I tried to resolve it. But you’re right, I couldn’t be bothered anymore trying to fix that shit.
The Devuan developers were told this multiple times and didn’t care because this wasn’t good enough for them. They didn’t want to contribute support for sysv upstream and they didn’t want any systemd in their repos at all. They removed packages that had trivial dependencies on other systemd components like timedated and sd-bus. They ignored that these components could be used with other inits because it didn’t fit their strict no systemd policy. Then they blamed systemd and Lennart for creating hard dependencies when it was Devuan’s fault for unnecessarily removing packages as a result of their ridiculous policies. And Devuan is still a release behind upstream Debian. Devuan provides nothing but some crippled and out-of-date packages from an insecure repo that has a history of being hacked.
When confronted with this and multiple other deficiencies they responded by lying more about the contents of Lennart’s emails to the Debian list, banning all discussion of them and entirely banning all discussion of systemd from IRC. Then they launched a campaign saying they were providing their users with "init freedom" despite only really supporting one init and banning any discussion of another prominent one.
The verdict? Devuan is an NIH distro developed by technologically incompetent schizos who have an irrational hatred of Lennart Poettering and blame him for all their failures at being a sysadmin. It needs to be put out of its misery and fast. The FUD about Devuan being for init freedom is a scam. Want truly init freedom distros that support every init? Try Debian or Gentoo.
Source on it’s repo being hacked? I can’t find anything about it by searching. Also, won’t it run into breakages by removing systemd from Debian? I assumed it was easier to use Devuan than to remove systemd from Debian, since they just handled all the dependency issues themselves instead of the user needing to. Just like people use Artix instead of Arch because it’s not done that easily.
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because i have shit to do i.e. use fedora workstation
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I am.
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Arch is more stable.
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ORLY? Maybe if you use sid, then probably. If you use stable, this thing is pretty stable. I’m OK with software being bit out of date. So see no problem here. Also I have revived bunch of old machines with Debian, it’s still has support for x86 and I still use x86 machines for shitposting on LULZ, servers or 3d printing. Arch is nice, but Debian suits my needs better also I’m quite used to it.
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Void is fun for me but I have considered it
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I am. Debian unstable w/ openbox and tint2. Going for a rolling #!
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i use the better version
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How much faster does it boot/shutdown?
Considering going anti-systemd meme just because I don’t like when systemd makes you wait.
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i use arch btw
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Because I’m a scrotebrain and like to make things more complicated for myself. Also I enjoy the feeling of superiority when I tell brainlets that I use Arch
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>because i’m a scrotebrain
>the feeling of superiority when I tell brainlets that I use Arch
only a scrotebrain would think a distro makes them smart-
I literally said that I was scrotebrained. Are you scrotebrained or something?
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no, i’m agreeing with you
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I do and it’s glorious.
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But I am using Debian
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sid ganstas
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wrong file
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anon please send the freaking wallpaper
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Stop namescroteging
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I am, on my server and VMs.
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what do you prefer for normal desktop usage? Is it a linux distro?
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I am
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Stop mentioning Debian on LULZ, let them waste their lives with their meme broken rolling release trash.
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But I am bro
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Reminder that Debian never removed sysvinit from the repos and it’s always been there as an option. In recent years they added s6, runit, obarun and openrc too. To switch it’s as simple as apt-get removing systemd.
The Devuan developers were told this multiple times and didn’t care because this wasn’t good enough for them. They didn’t want to contribute support for sysv upstream and they didn’t want any systemd in their repos at all. They removed packages that had trivial dependencies on other systemd components like timedated and sd-bus. They ignored that these components could be used with other inits because it didn’t fit their strict no systemd policy. Then they blamed systemd and Lennart for creating hard dependencies when it was Devuan’s fault for unnecessarily removing packages as a result of their ridiculous policies. And Devuan is still a release behind upstream Debian. Devuan provides nothing but some crippled and out-of-date packages from an insecure repo that has a history of being hacked.
When confronted with this and multiple other deficiencies they responded by lying more about the contents of Lennart’s emails to the Debian list, banning all discussion of them and entirely banning all discussion of systemd from IRC. Then they launched a campaign saying they were providing their users with "init freedom" despite only really supporting one init and banning any discussion of another prominent one.
The verdict? Devuan is an NIH distro developed by technologically incompetent schizos who have an irrational hatred of Lennart Poettering and blame him for all their failures at being a sysadmin. It needs to be put out of its misery and fast. The FUD about Devuan being for init freedom is a scam. Want truly init freedom distros that support every init? Try Debian or Gentoo.
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Because Devuan exists
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