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Who was the greatest Italian to ever live?
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Napoleon.
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He was french
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he had tuscany and genoa origin
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He was born in Corsica which was french at the time. Therefore he was french
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>Evidently he is not a Frenchman, nor a man of the eighteenth century; he belongs to another race and another epoch. We detect in him, at the first glance, the foreigner, the Italian, and something more, apart and beyond these, surpassing all similitude or analogy.-Italian he was through blood and lineage; first, through his paternal family, which is Tuscan, and which we can follow down from the twelfth century, at Florence, then at San Miniato; next at Sarzana, a small, backward, remote town in the state of Genoa, where, from father to son, it vegetates obscurely in provincial isolation, through a long line of notaries and municipal syndics. "My origin," says Napoleon himself, "has made all Italians regard me as a compatriot…. When the question of the marriage of my sister Pauline with Prince Borghése came up there was but one voice in Rome and in Tuscany, in that family, and with all its connections: ‘It will do,’ said all of them, ‘it’s amongst ourselves, it is one of our own families…’" When the Pope later hesitated about coming to Paris to crown Napoleon, "the Italian party in the Conclave prevailed against the Austrian party by supporting political arguments with the following slight tribute to national amour propre: ‘After all we are imposing an Italian family on the barbarians, to govern them. We are revenging ourselves on the Gauls.’" Significant words, which will one day throw light upon the depths of the Italian nature, the eldest daughter of modern civilization, imbued with her right of primogeniture, persisting in her grudge against the transalpines, the rancorous inheritor of Roman pride and of antique patriotism.
>-Hippolyte Taine>Dr. Henry: “The beauty of his delicate Italian features was of the highest kind; whilst the exquisite serenity of their expression was in the most striking contrast with the recollections of his great actions, impetuous character, and turbulent life”
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Never heard of those names. Ergo I don’t give a fuck. Was he born in France,yes or no? If that’s the case then he was french. Hell he even wanted to be buried in Paris,this was part of his last will.
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cope
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He was born in France,spoke french,fought for France,ruled over France (plus a large chunk of Europe) and wished to be buried in France.
That’s on top of the fact that Italy didn’t even exist at the time,therefore he couldn’t have been Italian therefore you’re wrong. I nominate Mussolini or maybe Matteo salvini or my Italian babe Elisa for the title of the greatest Italian ever. Ok,enough autism for today
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>That’s on top of the fact that Italy didn’t even exist at the time
Is this butthurt scroteuette for real?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Italy_(Holy_Roman_Empire)
BTW Corsica was part of the Kingdom of Italy for nearly 1000 years.
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>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-sovereign_monarchy
MeaninglessEveryone considers 1861 as the year when Italy was created
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wrong again
>Italy is “only a geographical expression,” said Count Metternich, Europe’s leading statesman in 1814.
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yeah none of this is anything but conjecture
>his features are italian because I say so
lol ok-
keep coping dude
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tell me this sis doesn’t look french, he looks exactly like my father (who’s from Savoy).
Then you’ll say something along the lines of "Savoy isn’t french" but where would you draw the line at that point?-
he was italian because he had italian origin
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How do you know your father isn’t Napoleon?
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>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-sovereign_monarchy
MeaninglessEveryone considers 1861 as the year when Italy was created
Being born in a stable does not make one a horse. This isn’t just a case of genetic origins either. He was born and raised as Napoleone di Buonaparte. His native language was Corsican and Italian. He only began to learn French at 10 spoke it with an foreign accent his entire life. He loathed France and was a Corsican nationalist until the revolution happened. Napoleon was always the opportunist.
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french had yet to be standardised in his time, and less than half of the country’s population would have learned proper french as their first language (if they did at all) this is not proof of his foreignness
were kellerman and the robspierres also not french? they too spoke with accents their entire lives-
scrote they were from places with lang d’oïl you scrotebrained french fuck, are the scrotes and nafris born in your country french too?
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He got a pudgier face, he looks Italian. Especially as he aged.
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>my hamster was born in an acquarium
>he is therefore a fish
Cope-
you’ll never be white
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so all the scrotes and nafris born in france are french too
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woke af
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Hitler was an e1b1 bull descended from a Moorish mercenary.
Therfore, he wasn’t French.
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>Dr. Henry: “The beauty of his delicate Italian features was of the highest kind; whilst the exquisite serenity of their expression was in the most striking contrast with the recollections of his great actions, impetuous character, and turbulent life”
Italian blood is part of French blood in the South West. So your assertion doesn’t hold.
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Yes, but he was still the greatest Italian ever
That’s how pathetyic Italy is-
There are more great people among Italians than in any other nation.
t. not italian
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Greatest Italian. Greatest Frenchman. Greatest Roman.
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fpbp and woke af
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He was middle eastern
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so italain?
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>Et moi aussi, je suis italien!
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Caesar/Galilei/Michelangelo/Napoleon
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this
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Leonardo da Vinci
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Luigi Cadorna
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It’s not even a debate really.
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He was from Nice FRANCE
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I like that idea that LULZ officially recognizes napoleon as the greatest Italian and Garibaldi as the greatest Frenchman
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No, the original argument was that Napoleon is "French" because Frogs conquered Corsica a year before his birth after 1000 year of Italian domination of the island.
Garibaldi was born in Nice before the city was passed to French control, so he was 100% Italian.
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I know I just think it would be funny
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Masons will burn in hell
He already is -
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Aahhhh mr garibaldi
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My boy
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Is’nt born yet.
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columbus
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It’s a tie between Leonardo and Galileo.
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Caesar
Dante
Marconi
Leonardo
Jesus-
>jesus
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I agree he’s the best Italian out there
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Woke af and Tonepilled
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me. and im only 3rd generation italian
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Enzo Ferrari/Ferrucio Lamborghini/Horacio Pagani
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Woke af
t. Automotive Engineer
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Gaius Julius Caesar. But you knew this already OP, so why not just say you wanted a Caesar thread?
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the only real answer
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Giovanni Spaghetti
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Marcus Aurelius
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this and Aurelian the Sun emperor, SOL INVICTA
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this tbh
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Napoleon was a Turk.
1. The Etruscans were Turks and Tuscans descend from Etruscans, who are also Anatolians (77+% Tur_Barchin)
2. The Turkish navy occupied Corsica for ten years and married some locals. 1538.
3. He chose the Seljuk Eagle to represent his dynasty and his empire.
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Napoleon was a E-M34 haplogrouped middle eastern general described by his contemporaries to have a middle eastern phenotype as well
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you’ll never be european, shitskin
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t. R1b haplogrouped slave ruled by E1b1b elites
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>caring about haplogroups
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4. He said I am a Turk when he was in Egypt.
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marco polo
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Rocco
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Can you pick an Italian before Italy was a country?
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Yes.
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Roberto Baggio
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maestro michelangelo
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Me
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