Where does the meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome come from?

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    • #48860
      Anonymous
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      Where does the meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome come from? As far as I can tell they are almost the complete opposite
      >Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
      >Have an entirely different religion, culture, and lifestyle from the Roman Empire
      >Literally destroy the direct continuation of the Roman Empire
      >Wage war against Europe (most of which have a stronger claim to succession than you) for centuries
      >Ottoman Empire falls apart, and Turkey becomes a regressive shithole yet still shit up the internet pretending to be Romans
      Is it simply because the Turks have Constantinople? Or is it just because it pisses of Greeks?

    • #48861
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome
      Not a meme when it is true.
      >Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
      You can trace their ancestry back to the Trojans which is same as that of Rome from Western Roman empire
      >Have an entirely different religion, culture, and lifestyle from the Roman Empire
      You can say the same about literally anything. Even Western Roman empire went from Pagan to Christian. Religion was never a criteria. Nor was the language.
      >Literally destroy the direct continuation of the Roman Empire
      Venetians did that in 1204. Mehmet II restored Rome to it’s former glory.
      >Wage war against Europe
      Wage war agains European Barbarians. FTFY. Also that’s a very Roman thing to do. Rome Constantly invaded Germania.
      >Ottoman Empire falls apart, and Turkey becomes a regressive shithole
      Feels like some Greek chud wrote this but I will bite. Roman republic collapsed and Roman Empire was established. Similarly as Ottoman empire was a successor to Roman empire, Ataturk restored the Roman Republic from the Fall of the empire. It all rhymes.

      • #48868
        Anonymous
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        You still haven’t given a single reason why they’re the legitimate successor

        • #48869
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Posted about Trojan Ancestry
          >Greekoid chud OP Can’t read
          Understandable.
          Anyway, if that’s not enough then House of Osman had blood relations with Romans. On top of that Mehemet II gets to claim the Right of Conquest. Makes him equivalent to Constantine the Great or Septimus Severus. Both of them were closely associated with Nova Roma.

          • #48890
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >Oh gee I had blood relations with Rome so I’m Rome

      • #48872
        Anonymous
        Guest

        If you found a wounded old man on the street, and you beat him to death and rob his corpse for his valuables. Does it make you his heir, worthy of his titles?

        • #48874
          Anonymous
          Guest

          this implies that modern turks are basically mongols.

          It’s a larp, those brown gypsy durka subhumans are anything but "Roman". Romani maybe

          >brown gypsy durka subhumans
          people that unironically talk like this are scrotebrained.

          • #48878
            Anonymous
            Guest

            cope

            • #48902
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Dilate

          • #48879
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >this implies that modern turks are basically mongols.
            No

            • #48932
              Anonymous
              Guest

              They look like pure blood gypsies.

              • #48933
                Anonymous
                Guest

                they look eastern med

          • #48880
            Anonymous
            Guest

            modern turks are basically gypsies

            • #48881
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Being a gypsy is an Indo-European trait, particularly among Romanians/Romani people.

              • #48883
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Gypsies are turkish diaspora in Europe.

                • #48922
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Rapebaby Balkanite hands typed this post

              • #48884
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >particularly among Romanians/Romani people
                Learn what you’re talking about before posting

        • #48875
          Anonymous
          Guest

          the Ottoman sultans had Byzantine blood and the Anatolian Turks descended from these Romans
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asia_(Roman_province)
          still crying the Ottomans were the third Rome

      • #48886
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Not a meme when it is true
        But it isn’t true.
        >Trojans
        Turks have no cultural, genetic, racial, or linguistic connection with the Trojans.
        >You can say [x] about [y] for anything.
        Yes and? It doesn’t dispute or refute the fact Turks have no connection to the Romans or Trojans.
        >Venetians did that in 1204.
        Manzikert happened two centuries before that.
        >agains European Barbarians
        Tell us about the amazing scientific, academic, and mathematical achievements TURKISH scientists contributed, we can wait, Memet.
        >Feels like some Greek chud wrote this.
        How so?
        >Roman republic collapsed and Roman Empire was established.
        What does that have to do with the allied powers in World War 1 partitioning the Ottoman Empire’s territories whole sale? Outside powers did not take over colonial holdings, territories, and domains from the Romans when they transitioned from a republic to a principate/empire. Yet the British and French took everything from the Ottoman Turks in the Levant and Mesopotamia; Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, etc…and the already independent Arab nations like the Kingdom of Saudi gained more influence.

        Sounds like your coping to me.

      • #48903
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
        you are wrong we are romans

        Woke af

        • #48904
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Yes, we Caesars and seeds of Turuk-Hai.

          çok yaşa Turuk Türkmen!

    • #48862
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Is just because Mehmet the conqueror was a massive Romanboo others Ottoman sultans didn’t care much for the tittle

    • #48865
      Anonymous
      Guest

      it is merely another manifestation of the eternally evil nomad, huns, mongols, turks, all of them the same

      • #48866
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Posts about how evil nomads are
        >Also posts an Indo-European

        • #48867
          Anonymous
          Guest

          a cringy looking nobody at that

    • #48870
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
      Hittite Empire, Arzawa, Assuwa League, Troy, Ephesus, Pergamum, Phrygia, Lydia, Lycia, Bithynia, Paphlagonia, Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia and Commagene, the Roman province of Asia, the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia, the Byzantine Empire, Seljuk Empire
      that is seen in genetic studies
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Turkish_people#Haplogroup_distributions
      >Have an entirely different religion, culture, and lifestyle from the Roman Empire
      Rome had many religious changes in its history, first it was the cult of Zeus, then Mithraism, then Christianity, it is normal that they are now Muslims
      >Literally destroy the direct continuation of the Roman Empire
      they were not and we are the true successors
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_the_Roman_Empire#Ottoman_Empire_after_1453
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(title)#Ottoman_Empire
      >Wage war against Europe (most of which have a stronger claim to succession than you) for centuries
      just like ancient Rome did in the past
      >Ottoman Empire falls apart, and Turkey becomes a regressive shithole yet still shit up the internet pretending to be Romans
      I see Turkey better than Italy and ISTANBUL continues to be the most populated city in Europe and the most beautiful

      pic related

    • #48873
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It’s a larp, those brown gypsy durka subhumans are anything but "Roman". Romani maybe

    • #48876
      Anonymous
      Guest

      someone is just copy and pasting troll threads.

    • #48877
      Anonymous
      Guest

      there are two of threads about this nonsense rn.

    • #48885
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Where does the meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome come from?
      One or two mentally ill roaches on LULZ

    • #48887
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Romans usually view their capital as the state itself. So when they moved it to Constantinople, everyone, even including the Barbarians who conquered the western half, acknowledged the entity that controlled Constantinople as the Roman Empire itself, or at least it’s successor.
      The connection with Constantinople is often cited as the main argument of states like Russia (because of similar culture and religion, also royal lineage) and Turkey/Ottomans (holds the city itself) on why they deserve to be called the true successor of Rome.
      The only reason why the western empires such as the Franks/HRE considers themselves as heirs is because the papacy, which is headquartered in Rome, proclaimed Charlemagne as the true Roman emperor. They also have the military, political, and religious means to make that as a fact, even if logic disagrees with them.

      • #48888
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Romans usually view their capital as the state itself.
        They viewed their nation as their Imperium, which although rarely represented reality was their beliefs of Rome’s power and how far it went. Not just a single city.

    • #48892
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Mehmet almost invaded Rome

      • #48894
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Son of Aeneas visiting his relatives. VGH.

    • #48896
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Turks have exactly as much legitimacy to claim Rome as germanic Franks with their HRE
      >american incel larpers will seethe at this

      • #48897
        Anonymous
        Guest

        No, the Ottoman claim is arguably the strongest.

      • #48936
        Anonymous
        Guest

        No, the Ottoman claim is arguably the strongest.

        Ottomans
        >destroyed ERE
        >roaches claim "succession" of empire they destroyed
        >YES PLEASE MEHMET AVE TRVE TO SVLTAN
        Germans:
        >destroy WRE
        >claim "succession" for the empire they destroyed
        >LMAO look at these german idiots they aren’t roman
        If you idiots want to claim roaches have any claim to rome, you be ready to concede tat the HRE was a legitimate successor state and with russian third rome LARP

    • #48899
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I think the eastern roman emperor gave the title to the ottomans, or some random noble did, this they are by right of conquest

    • #48901
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes, Turuk Turkoman and his son and heir, Turuk Hai, are the legitimate successors of Julius Caesar. They are related genetically, and Caesar was Muslim.

    • #48906
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Spain is the legitimate successor of Rome.
      Prove me wrong.

    • #48909
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Turkomens also original white people you gay europe.

      A B V S E D

    • #48910
      Anonymous
      Guest

      In order of who gets to claim the inheritance of the Roman Empire it goes
      1) Italians
      POWER GAP
      2) Greeks and Anatolian Turks
      3) Spaniards

      Nobody else

      • #48911
        Anonymous
        Guest

        No, Turuk-Hai the son of Rome, better claim than Italians.

      • #48912
        Anonymous
        Guest

        the byzantines were a continuation of the roman empire until 1453
        their cultural identity was roman until up to 500 years ago
        italians were roman 1500 years ago
        spaniards were roman 1000 years ago

        • #48913
          Anonymous
          Guest

          The Greeks were Roman long after 1453

          No, Turuk-Hai the son of Rome, better claim than Italians.

          Turks are literally anatolians who were roman then assimilated into the turkic identity

          • #48916
            Anonymous
            Guest

            […]
            Nope
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhu66Q8rfhI&
            Legal Roman will gave the title to King Ferdinand of Castile.

            No, who make more pizza? Turkmen. We the greatest pizza inventor, gay europe.

            • #48917
              Anonymous
              Guest

              t. butthurtt diaspora

              • #48919
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Clearly you need some IstanBVLL.

            • #48918
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Low quality bait. Even the Turks on this board speak better English than that.

              • #48920
                Anonymous
                Guest

                You don’t even know who is Turuk-Hai, why would i listen you?

            • #48924
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Clearly you need some IstanBVLL.

              You don’t even know who is Turuk-Hai, why would i listen you?

              the original romans are white
              the Turks of Anatolia are a mix of Arabs, Persians and Hittites

              >this implies that modern turks are basically mongols.
              No

              >Be steppe people migrating from a completely different part of the world
              you are wrong we are romans

              Woke af

              The Roman legacy can only be claimed by those currently living in Anatolia, the rest of the East Asian Turks are chinks without any blood relationship with Rome.

              • #48926
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Lol, you don’t even know history. Everybody knows that Turok did hunt dinosaurs, and he was first white person and a Turk.

    • #48921
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >germans conquer western rome and claim their title as roman empire
      >turks conquer eastern rome and claim their title as roman empire
      What do you not understand about this?
      It’s the exact same situation as the
      >

      • #48938
        Anonymous
        Guest

        The HRE isn’t a successor either. Your entire "whaddabout!!!" is as illegitimate as you are.

    • #48923
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Because the Ottoman Caliph referred to himself as the Roman Emperor, and every argument for Byzantium being the rightful heir to Rome applies to the Ottomemes as well.

      This isn’t complicated.

      • #48927
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This is a ginormous LARP. Rome had imperial titles and the ERE transfered theirs to Spain which descended from actual Rome. Now cope

    • #48925
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They didn’t call themselves Romans nor was their state known as the roman empire.

    • #48928
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It’s a turkroach cope. No, I’m not greek.

    • #48929
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Where does the meme about Turks and the Ottoman Empire being the true successor to Rome come from?
      reality

    • #48931
      Anonymous
      Guest

      right of conquest
      they have at LEAST as much claim to the title as the HRE does
      of course, mehmet was the only one who really cared

    • #48934
      Anonymous
      Guest

      as far as i know and i didnt research any of this
      >seljuks invade anatolia
      >arab word for romans(byzantines) is rum or so
      >most western seljuk state in anatolia is called rum
      >they fragment off the seljuk empire and become the sultanate of rum
      >ottomans fragment off the sultanate
      >most of the subjects are "romans"
      >being roman is high prestige shit
      >claim to be the new roman empire

      its the steppescrote we wuz caesars n shieet

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