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Whats the point of going to university if I can just learn everything on Youtube
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I wanna know too, anon, I wanna know too…
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Knowing people
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you’ll miss out on the (((experience)))
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Whats the point of wasting time asking a Sudanese racketball forum when instead you can just watch them
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you can’t ask a question
you can’t smell the seat after a girl gets up off it-
>you can’t smell the seat after a girl gets up off it
>what are bus stations, bars and restaurants-
from personal experience most women outside are either obese, 50 and obese or just ugly and obese
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Still plenty of chicks out there to occupy you the whole day plus they have a far less chance of being a chud than in college
Better arguments for licking college seats would be outside seats are nasty and licking the seats of girls you know is infinitely hotter -
>t. American
I know because I’m an American too. 🙁
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from personal experience most women outside are either obese, 50 and obese or just ugly and obese
I met my girlfriend in my computer engineering course. She’s not ugly or fat. There are good girls there too. Less then other courses but there are
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fuck off reese
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she’s trans, isn’t she
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>she
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>Girl
>MIT
I’m sorry anon, but…-
>he doesn’t know
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Because you don’t go to school for education, you do it for certification. Its about checking a box for employability reasons.
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to have someone accredited check your work to certify you actually have learned it instead of you just thinking youve learned it
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>someone accredited
By who?-
The university you dumbfuck lmao
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by another someone accredited
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University is basically legacy shit from times when information was not easily available or accessible
The only reason why someone would go to a university is to get the piece of paper that proves you wasted 5 years of your life
The reason why universities are still around is because it’s a very profitable scam-
its also about ‘snobs’
when just about all of them have cheated in their exams, or been waved through
re: what was reported about oxford university,uk
by ‘mr nice’
all brits are liars, frauds-
t. butthurt brown "person"
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So few people really understand the nature of power, and how it proliferates itself.
universities have always been there to serve as a recruitment base for powerful political, military or private entities.
Those who fail to get taken in, but with the brains to understand the dynamics of it all, often find their ways into lower-tiered groups such as private or public fraternities (you scratch my back, i’ll scratch yours).
The rest of them pay 100K+ to get a paper, that says you did some learning you could have done on youtube indeed.
It can be a great benefit, or it can be your biggest burden.
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Youll get through the material quicker by reading books than watching youtube videos.
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some employers still put high emphasis on having a degree
you miss out on networking opportunities
and you miss out on the """social experience"""personally i refuse to go back to post-secondary
the price alone makes it impossible to justify the benefits-
>some employers still put high emphasis on having a degree
It’s not just having the degree. It’s also where the degree is from.-
This is true, yeah.
A 2 year associates degree from a cheap community college is pretty much worthless.At the end of the day, pure skills (soft and hard) are all that matter.
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Learning a subject and having it stick requires repeated reinforcement for the brain. If you’re one of those special autists that can breeze through it on your own, then fine, but you’re most likely not. Some semblance of structure, and having checkpoints along the way (assignments, tests, midterms, final exam) are best for most people.
Also, as others have pointed out, if you have a question, you have no peers nor teacher to ask.-
ask the internet
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>peers
forums/stack overflow
>requires repeated reinforcement
if you can’t force yourself to sit down and learn shit, you were never going to make it in the first place-
>if you can’t force yourself to sit down and learn shit, you were never going to make it in the first place
ego-stroking your autistic ugly self but it’s not true at all.-
cope, codemonkey
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>cope, codemonkey
high iq people can be lazy too. the uni would provide them a structure to follow so they don’t have to go out of their way to set one up for themselve + they can socialize and network with professors + classmates.-
uni structure is made for midwits, not for the high iq
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>uni structure is made for midwits, not for the high iq
Yes, but it provides a decent enough structure for the lazy high iq people. Plus, since they are high IQ, they can probably network with professors.
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this, most people are just lazy shits who would rather browse tiktok all day than open youtube and watch tutorials
when you go to university you have to move your ass and actually learn at least something in order to not waste your money-
Lazy shit here, can confirm. Although I’ll add that I thought paying for something would force me to get my shit together, but in reality it turned the opposite. I gave less of a shit about college grades than I did free public schooling grades because I realized I could just learn anything whenever I feel like it with the internet.
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Something not a lot of people are mentioning here: A degree shows that you can stick with something and see it through. That’s why it’s often easier to land a job with a degree (and you got the know how). You don’t even need a degree in the same field as whatever job you’re aiming for, just about any non-meme degree (gender studies, art, philosophy, etc) is good enough to improve your chances.
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I remember my programming class.
I breezed through the exersices then the final test came where we were given a test which was 50% of the entire course and it was just a bunch if code and we were supposed to find bugs in it.
Something we didnt go over at all.
I ended up failing.
Never again, fuck learning instutions period.-
See this is what I was talking about.
Oh boo hoo you couldn’t bring yourself to retake the test? Didn’t wanna do something that was hard for you? Why the fuck would anyone want to hire you?
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the degree
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networking / connections -
How will you network?
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you dont go in debt for a piece of paper that way
and obviously following orders is GOOD and being smart and capable enough to teach yourself is BAD
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Because only the top 10% of humans are capable of teaching themselves a particular skill within a reasonable time frame. Theoretically even someone with a room temperature IQ can teach themselves any skill if they lived forever.
Someone with 200+ IQ for example might be able to teach themselves to program C++ at a profitable level in just a few months and already on their way to making 6 figure salary/profit without a degree.
Someone with an average IQ trying to accomplish the same thing will take a few years at best and someone with a below average IQ will take 10+ years.
So what ends up happening is most people don’t see results in a reasonable time frame and life happens (kids/marriage/debt) and they’re forced to completely give up or go to college where they’ll have their hand held every step of the way making it possible aquire that skill exponentially faster than they would alone.
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>Someone with 200+ IQ
Stopped there
Literally no human has ever or can ever reach 200 IQ
scrotebrained post-
I guess it would be more accurate to say there’s some people with intelligence so outrageously high that we can’t reliably measure it.
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>estimated iq scores
into the trash it goes-
The point is like it or not we’re not clones of each other and a majority of us won’t make it to top 10 of anything or be able to teach ourselves skills in reasonable time frames. There’s a lot of people in college who should be hammering nails and moping floors but instead we tell them they’re all special little snowflakes and now they’re indentured servants to big sis with a paperweight degree. Then there’s the next succ/muskrat pissing away their valuable time on track to a boring generic life they don’t have to live.
Work smarter not harder. Obviously only a few of us are actually going to be able to pull that off, the rest will grind in a 9-5 until we die.
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for there to be someone with 200 IQ, a Z-score of 10, there has to be a population with with a size of n=10^10*number of all humans that have ever lived.
Get your buzzfeed top 10 list article out of here
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this but replace IQ with willpower/interest/autism
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>exponentially faster than they would alone.
is this true?
spending 2 years self-teaching a skill is still faster than spending 4 years getting a bachelors-
it’s usually true. Bachelor is not one skill, one skill could probably be learnt in half a year in college
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Depends on intelligence. Infinite time = everyone could teach themselves to be a rocket scientist. But we don’t live forever.
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Would you visit a doctor without a degree?
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https://i.imgur.com/JswOouF.gif
It’s extremely unlikely you have a 200+ IQ and realistically you probably hover somewhere around the average ~100 IQ range so it’s all a gamble because either:
A) College can teach you a particular skill faster.
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B) You can teach yourself a particular skill faster than College can.Probably A, the only way to know for sure is to take the mesa IQ test (ie not internet bullshit tests).
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I wish I had discipline so I could make something out of myself
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normal people think its impossible to self learn a skill which isnt drawing, playing an instrument or learning languages (they prefer having a teacher though). and they lack the discipline to learn any skill they think is attainable through selflearing, which is why they always talk about "i want to learn this" instead of "i am learning this"
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most people just need a little nudge, no shame in that.
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If you think about it logically colleges are basically institutions to help people with a ~100 IQ master a particular skill in a fixed time frame. To a highly gifted person they’re going to be the biggest waste of time in their life as they curb stomp their tests after cramming for a only a single night with the rest of their time spent playing video gays and reading mangoes. The harsh truth is we’re not all born the same and most of us aren’t going to able to teach ourselves skill in a reasonable time frame. We’re not going to live forever and when life happens it forces us to make sacrifices.
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>To a highly gifted person they’re going to be the biggest waste of time in their life as they curb stomp their tests after cramming for a only a single night with the rest of their time spent playing video gays and reading mangoes.
t. doesn’t know what hes talking about
Smart people work hard, else they would get nowhere-
>Smart people work hard, else they would get nowhere
this, apparently there’s more geniuses than we see, but most of them fail for different reasons, the main one is not working hard enough (usually after being complimented as a child too much, they start to think they can do anything with a minimal effort)-
>usually after being complimented as a child too much
I was never complimented as a child. It was reinforcement learning. Never try. Still do good. Learn to never try.
>they start to think they can do anything with a minimal effort
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Horseshit, the muskrat doesn’t work 100 hours a day to make freight trains worth of money per day.
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>Smart people work hard,
if they were smart they wouldnt need to work hard, dumbshit.stupid people work hard. lucky people are successful.
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>Smart people work hard, else they would get nowhere
This is the biggest cope. smart people work smart and minimize the amount of hard work they have to do.
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>1 bachelors
>2 associates
>22 masters
>3 specialists
>1 doctorate
>0 job
>he does it for free
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You don’t get to pay garden gnomes tens of thousands of dollars and go into debt if you just learn it for free online.
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Just lie about having a degree. They’re not going to actually check on that
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Credentials. Loose women. Putting off responsibilities for another 4-9 years on your parents dime.
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people that think that college is easier than having a job either didnt major in stem or didnt go to college.
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I’m too scared to enter the real world yet 🙁 what if I get yelled at and stuff?
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you won’t get yelled at and if you do then just quit.
I mean if you weren’t being sarcastic.
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>responsibilities = work difficulty
I’d rather have some jaghead assign me 40 hours of inane homework a week, not have to pay for anything, not having to fix or even upkeep my own house, and not being responsible for other people or projects, than the opposite. This is after 5 years of college and 5 years of work. -
college is very easy compared to real work
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People who think college is easier than work either haven’t finiahed college yet or got a really shit job with their degree.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uYWYWPc9HU
Whatever happens never stop trying anons, you’ll never know what could have been if you don’t even bother trying. Maybe you won’t be the next muskrat but maybe you’re not meant to hammer nails and mop floors for the rest of your life.
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thanks for the comment but im done
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EXACTLY
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if you arent doing it on your own it doesnt matter either way, so basically dont bother
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University has always been about the social experience and exploration. However, technical universities in the US have become depressing, asocial, pressure-cooker environments. At this point I am not sure whether it is better to just teach yourself online or do a degree.
I am currently TA at a prestigious technical university and I feel like I am just teaching sheltered bugmen. It genuinely depresses me.I am glad I was able to complete university in Europe before all of this racing to the bottom started.
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sheltered bugmen ? You mean chinese or cattle ?
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Networking, research, publications and glory
Immersion in the academic environment can give you all of those things, even if you are middling. If you truly are the 0.01% at the high tail of the distribution, you could probably do it alone, but then you could also do it at a university and leverage the above. -
You go to university to meet people that will help you get a job or provide better connections later in life, for certifications that will make a job more likely to hire you, and to take classes and learn things you otherwise wouldn’t have chosen on your own.
If you go just to attend the direct classes and autistically grind your degree you’ve unironically failed university.
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100% this, and this is what most people enrolling don’t know beforehand (me included)
You go to uni to befriend as many people as possible, and most of them will end up working in your same field, some of them in nice companies, so you can ask them to vouch for you. -
People who say this shit are coping about having wasted so much time on the experience™ instead of just going in, getting the piece of paper, and going out, the way it’s supposed to be.
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You probably already know: the bank loan for the diploma is ultimately a another tithe to the government, another way to use prisonment as a means of coercing someone into being employed. Bills and employment are another pridon in themselves.
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so the company hiring you doesn’t need to test all your capabilities before hiring
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>university if I can just learn everything on Youtube
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the best stuff I learned in uni was from my classmates. it’s all about the social aspect, even if you’re an antisocial autist
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It’s not about the experience, it’s about the piece of paper at the end.
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ITT STEMscrotes
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>learn on youtube
For some things yes, but you cannot learn how to be a doctor or an engineer-
well you could but nobody would trust you with those jobs
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i live in west africa and im a doctor there so you’re wrong.
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yeah but they have low standards
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when you come crying to me about getting your arm ripped off by a malayan tiger you won’t be caring about your little "standards" now will you
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why would i even be in africa
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so you can take your snapchat selfies with tigers at our zoo
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The whole point is to get into one of the top 10 universities in the usa. Once there, you meet fellow wunderkinds, then syngeristic networking magic may happen if you’re not too autistic. Nobody cares much about your grades, just grad w a degree in something respectably stem. Lofe has been easy street w jobs and money thrown at me my whole life. I’m retired at 50 and set for life.
Tl;dr go to a top ivy school & you’re set.
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most people are not autists
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For better or worse, the piece of paper. I’m not saying this is a bad thing or a good thing, but that’s the way it is.
If you don’t care about the degree itself and you’re only interested in the actual knowledge, then not much, really. Nowadays, almost everything you can learn in college can be learned just fine outside of college, this is especially true for CS.
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kek usa uni debts
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>can learn
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You get a stamped paper that can get you employed
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because you dont get the magical piece of paper that stops hr roasties from throwing your resume in the trash
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The piece of paper my dude
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because the thing you learn the most from University is how to be human.
you cant learn how to interact with human beings from your basement.
you also get a piece of paper that tells employers you arent a scrote so you deserve be hired.
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What’s the point of getting married when i can coom to 2d e-bois on rule34
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To get engineers papers and be able to call yourself engineering and sigh documents ordinary "self-taught" code money’s can’t.
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Most people don’t have the business inclination to make use of self-learned skills. A degree “guarantees” a certain level of skill/knowledge/etc, and the institution’s reputation sets the level of it. A self taught person has to have a number of successful large projects or enterprises to be thought of as having the needed skills.
Even after that, an employer will still think “why should I hire someone who can employ themselves and doesn’t need me?”In short: to be able to teach yourself, you need to be able to sell and manage yourself too.
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Proof you stupid fuck. "I learned it on youtube" isn’t going to cut it in a job interview, and employers don’t have time to test you on all the shit a degree proves you managed to deal with.
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I think you’re probably the only person in this thread that has an actual job.
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I’m slowly starting to realize why I should’ve never went to college in the first place. I’m listening to some MechE scrote give his own lecture in an introductory engineering course. I don’t know if it’s just me but I just can’t bear listening to this guy talk.
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certification (including name dropping) and connections
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Oh wow a freaking intro class
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I have a PhD. If you have less than a master’s then you’re scrotebrained trash.
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People always talk about the social experience, that I’m missing out on it if I don’t go, is it really that important? Just seems like you drink a lot, fuck some random chick at a house party, and live in mouody buildings for £150 a week.
I know people going for solely that, and taking degrees like graphic design. Almost £30k+ over 3 years
For a line on your c.v/resume.T. Zoomer
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The "experience" and "connections" are enormously overrated, ignore those who emphasize them. It’s mostly just nobodies meeting nobodies. Unless you make actual friends, you’ll likely lose contact and forget everyone else and not even miss them one bit.
I suspect that those who insist they are that important didn’t actually go to college and they are just speaking from what they think it’s like from movies.Yes, you may be lucky and befriend that one guy who happens to be the son of an important CEO, but the chances of this happening are low. And even if it does happen, don’t make the mistake of believing that nepotism trumps everything on its own. Yes, it does matter, a lot. But if you are an incompetent idiot, you’ll lose every time to a literally who who happens to be a genius and can prove it.
The one and only thing you should focus on while at university is the degree, nothing else. Even actual learning comes second, since sadly not all classes are all that useful or well structured.
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You can get the same experience for free by networking with druggie kids who got sent to alternative ed. I went to a University close to home so I hung out with the same people from high school, who most would consider losers. I didn’t hang out with a single person from Uni, they were all stuck up.
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yes it is.
What are social skills good for?
> having access to new opportunities
> negotiating salary
> easily making new friends
> easily acquiring sexual partners/ keeping them
> having an upper hand in deals.
inb4 i am not a businness man. everything is a deal in life. you just don’t know it.Social skill is the most important skill of all. even money sometimes can’t compare to it. technical skill can be learned from home. social skill require you to be physically next to a person. Which is very hard to come by when you think about it.
Why is you regress socially when you enter the workforce, because nobody has the time to just be social like they do in their early 20’s.Zoomers are so freaking trash socially. If you put some effort things can be better for you in the future. In the kingdom of blind, a one eye man is king.
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To get that magic piece of paper companies look for. They won’t take "I watched the courses on youtube" even if you’ve watched 8 semesters worth of content.
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Shit, wrong thread
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Couldn’t get my CPA with a degree. Now I get paid to shitpost and work 2 hours a day. I love industry. Fuck Big 4.
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Don’t go. I don’t want any more competition.
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Tell me OP, why is every self taught scrote here unemployed? You make your little rices, you buy your little books, you learn muh ‘C’ basics, you make shitty hello world apps and you stay unemployed and a waste of space who doesn’t deserve to talk about software.
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>Whats the point of going to university if I can just learn everything on Youtube
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University gives you the piece of paper that makes it easier to get certain jobs
Note that I said certain. Some degrees don’t help with jobs.
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You need at least 109k in debt and a piece of paper from scrote University for corp to hire you for minimum wage, sorry sweaty. That’s the American Dream in action.
Or you can learn and work for yourself like a chad. Fuck corporate. -
2021 UNI SURVIVAL GUIDE
WHY GO TO UNI?
REASONS
1. get a bachelors degree in high demand fields
2. having the flexibility of taking a masters later on in life.
getting a online masters is piss easy, and magnet for hr roasties.
3. having 4 years of blocked section of your life in which you can study.
scrotebrains waste this time by gaYMINg or being a degen.
or building projects in the mean time.
4. Networking with
fellow students
professors
industry people that might come to your student fair or someshit.
5. Internships are easy to get if you are IN college and have good GPA
GOOD GPA IS ANYTHING OVER 3.5
OK GPA IS ANYTHING OVER 3
anything below YOU are bonked and should blame yourself for freaking your future self.
6. LOANS and grants that can be used for tuition and board.
working a wagie job out of high school just to survive is scrotebraination.
If utilized properly you woun’t be in a lot of debt.
acceptable level of debt after UNI <= 40k.7. BEST WAY TO FIND A WIFE.
tinder sucks
church is full of single moms and tatooted whores.
finding your long term partner is college is the right way to do dating.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS A freaking WASTE OF TIME.
BIGGER POOL OF FEMALES THAN AT ANY POINT OF YOUR LIFE.
AND HIGHER QUALITY oF WOMEN TOO>
young, educated and single(no kids)
if you they don’t want you in college because you are creepy, ugly w/e.
now is the best time to level up.
physically (gym)
personality (join social clubs, that forces you to be social)
by the time you done with college and after first year of working you are prime dating material.
>>BUT IT IS UNFAIR BITCHES have it easy.
it is how things are you can be a loser and visit /r9k/ during college or make an investment in yourself.
8. FINDING FRIENDS
9. FINDING AND BROADENing interests.
fuck travelling other expensive shit.-
CONS
1. shit degree -> fuck up your life
2. out of state college -> huge debt
3. stay in shitty toxic relationship ->
stunted personal development
wasting time
potentialy missing out on a good match.
4. if you are depressed or have mental condition
pause college and get it fixed.
5. fuck weed and only socially drink.>>BUT I AM AUTO DIDACT, going to classes is a waste of time.
in reality you are going to learn everything in on your own anyways. You go to class.
0. TO TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE
prof, dudes and chicks
1. for the habit, because you will scrotebrain slob if you don’t
2. getting assignments
3. also for the lecture (MOST OF THE TIME IS SHIT)
if shit -> ignore scrotebrain professor and study on your own.
if good -> augment your study with lecture.HUMANS ARE SOCIAL CREATURES, AND THIS IS THE BEST WAY WE HAVE CURRENTLY TO GET EDUCATED. ONLINE SCHOOL IS A SCAM. you probably getting 10% of what you paid for.
ANY of the shit does not apply to outliers.
>INB4 i am one.
no you are not. accepting your mediocre and min /maxing can often times help you achieve great things.
>ALSO if you poor as fuck, come from a shitter family, have a drug problem. have a kid etc etc
things are going to be harder for you.
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The people who can benefit most from college are disciplined and can effectively self motivate. The people who really succeed in college could get the same result by reading textbooks or watching online lectures. They have the discipline and skills for it.
Therefore college must offer something that books and videos can’t to those people or they must target a different demographic. In practice its both. Good students participate in independent studies and do research with their professors. Mediocre students, the people who treat college like high school+, just attend classes and make do. Colleges are filled with this type of person because they bring in money and also because it’s hard to sort out the disciplined and hardworking from the intelligent but lazy using GPA and standardized tests. Basically college is like public school, only a small percentage of students take full advantage of it. -
University is more for socializing than education
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I’m the depute head of an IT team of around 20 employees or so, and when we’re interviewing, nothing matters, except experience + personality
We don’t care about your school, your college, your degree, or you, really.
We want to know if you can write powershell to stand up AVD instances in Azure.
We want to know if you can debug the mission critical Exchange 2007 server in the basement.
We want to know that you’re not a sperg.
We already think that you either have, or can be taught, the technical skills.
We’re all extremely busy and wouldn’t waste our time interviewing candidates we though lacked the technical aptitude.
The interview is to see if you were bullpooping on the resume and to see how well you fit in.
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Credentials. You don’t go to university to learn, you go to university to get someone to say you learned.
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>08
i wish it was 08 so bad
school is a good goy generator and a money scam; companies want good goys so you gotta get the paper that signals to them you are a broken soul who can handle being a slave
if you think school is about learning you are underage or below 100 IQ and will soon be replaced by a 3rd worlder who can’t turn on a pc but knows how to get the paper (aka cheat and lie) and live like an insect; learning is a tertiary side effect at best in these institutions and they know it, hence why they can release huge stores of info and it doesn’t hurt them, they are useless scammers and middlemen who peddle cheap status and hollow prestige to empty headed teenagers and propagandized parents in exchange for what effectively amounts to a checkbox on your resume that they themselves have ensured you need through generations of conditioning -
you need to spend 4 years being brainwashed by wokies so that tech companies know that you’ll be on board for pic-related
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I know uni is mostly for credentials now, but why can’t we just have a credential test that we go through and just use that?
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Accreditation that a lot of jobs require, thats literally it
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Forgot to mention, also to fuck sluts. Use tinder and smash as many hot girls as possible, you won’t be in an environment where it’s that for long.
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