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what is a superior alternative to American suburban housing?
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Treehouses in a state of nature
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Commieblox.
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Living in a vibrant, diverse urban neighborhood of course!
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YUCK! This suburban neighborhood is so bland and soulless!
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Now THIS is where I wanna live! Imagine the hustle and bustle! Think of all the fun things to do!
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>Imagine the hustle and bustle! Think of all the fun things to do!
You know modern suburbs are filled with hustle and bustle?
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Ugh, suburbs are full of old boomers in their McMansions who think beauty can be bought at Walmart…
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This isn’t even a suburb. This is what the lower-to-middle class "average" neighborhood of my 94% white city looks like.
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Ugh, suburbs are full of old boomers in their McMansions who think beauty can be bought at Walmart…
Doesn’t this look so much more soulful? Don’t you just dream of moving away from the suburbs to the big city?
No idea what you’re talking about, I’m just posting pics of why I think living in the heart of the city is so much better than the soulless suburbs!
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Seethe harder cagie. We all the the biggest, most crime-filled "urban" areas in the country and actually just overinflated suburbs.
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Agreed, suburbs are trash. Can’t wait until all of suburbia is abandoned and torn down as the new generation of Americans realize life in the city is the superior choice!
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>most crime-filled "urban" areas in the country and [sic] actually just overinflated suburbs.
you’re delusional. the top several dozen most crime-filled areas in the US are literally all urban black ghettos.
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You’re posting cherrypickings that mostly differ in how well they’re maintained and contain zero arguments concerning which planning strategy is actually better, that’s what.
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No argument to be had, suburbs are soulless, inefficient, and built on a legacy of racism. City life cannot be matched. What’s the most exciting thing to do in suburbia, go to church? Ride your bike up and down the same streets? Don’t you wish your life could be more like "Friends"?
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>hood classics
If you are going to shitpost at least put some effort into it.-
This really isn’t a difficult concept. Soulless, vs…
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That looks comfy af
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>houses with paper thin walls look comfy.
Amerimutts, not even once.
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I’m german.
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Starting to understand why so many of you moved to the US
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>houses with paper thin walls look comfy.
Amerimutts, not even once.
>Insulation more advanced than a literal concrete slab sends poors into a rage
Every time-
What if I told you you can have solid materials AND insulation? Both at the same time, in fact?
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This would be so beautiful if it were cleaned up. Goddamn ghettoification
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What are you talking about? It is beautiful! Much more beautiful than the whitebread suburbs, that’s for sure!
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I thought you said these houses were vacant >:(
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would unironically be peak comfy if you cleaned it up and moved white families there
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Hot flaming Gotase.
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What;s wrong with it? I thought everyone loved living in places with front lawns and neighbors within walking distance. I live in a suburb and everybody loves it here. Granted, I don’t live in a copy-paste town like OP’s picture, most of the houses around here were built in the 1910s and 1920s, and nearly all of them have 2 or 2 and a half stories. And most of the houses in my town have several trees in the front or back yard. Also, we’re on a major highway, so it’s easy to get out of town for a day trip.
Maybe that’s all a suburb needs to be fixed? A few trees, and highway access?
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It more about being enslaved to the car.
Having to drive everywhere to get food and go to work, instead of using the legs God gave you.
Having to wait an hour to get work, etc every day because of traffic jams that the car woke af infrastructure caused.
Having to maintain an expensive machine and the government having to pay a massive amount of money on the really long road, power line, etc, due to the spread out infrastructure.
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Commieblocks but unironically.
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A good old-fashioned nuking
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Better question: What is NOT a superior alternative?
Just looking at this:
Stupidly inefficient use of space. Stack those buildings triple and add a cellar = 1/4 the build up area necessary. Suddenly all the distances are smaller. No that’s not a problem if you have proper noise insulation and build with materials meant for building houses and not garden sheds. No, living above ground is not a commie thing and does not make you depressed. Know what does? ARR ROOK SAME. It’s like a commieblock laid flat. Put some freaking variety in there. And public spaces. A small shop, a cafe, a little park with playground and sprinklers. Idyllic.
What’s with those gardens? I hope that’s just because everythings new and not because some stupid rule forbids actual vegetation. Put some trees and hedges in there.Frankly, most of the rest comes by itself if you just put everything more closely together. Suddenly public transportation can work. Not everyone needs a car. Local shops can work. etc. etc. etc.
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>Stupidly inefficient use of space. Stack those buildings triple and add a cellar = 1/4 the build up area necessary.
You seem to forget the important fact that Americans by and large want to own their own home, property that is theirs alone right down to the dirt it’s sitting on.-
Well that’s just limiting themselves. We own a third of our house here. We have lower heating costs, share costs for repairs. Was probably cheaper to build than three houses (of the same build quality) too. We still have our gardens, we have our garages (lowest level). And we live in a town that can be walked through, that has public transportation, public areas, things that would simply be much harder if every household needed three times the space. Walking through it is quite interesting btw – tons of old buildings with history behind it, because we still live close to the historic town center.
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Imagine not wanting elbow room.
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Imagine extending your elbows into the floor and the ceiling.
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>he doesn’t flex his massive elbows into the floor and the ceiling everyday
Never gonna make it.
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You don’t live in a suburb to be around other people, you do it to get away from other people and to have peace and quiet.
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>property that is theirs alone right down to the dirt it’s sitting on.
Which is not the case in these kinds of developments.
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>Stupidly inefficient use of space. Stack those buildings triple and add a cellar = 1/4 the build up area necessary
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You write like the Gordon Ramsay of city planners lol
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>Stack those buildings triple and add a cellar
No. Kys Eurochud
>No, living above ground is not a commie thing and does not make you depressed.
Wrong, any established man owns the earth which he lives on
>Not everyone needs a car.
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>Suddenly public transportation can work. Not everyone needs a car
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Also works better when distances are short.
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I live in a Northern country and bicycles are impractical year-round – perhaps 4-6 months we have heavy snow. American Mid-West, Canada, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Patagonia – it does not work.
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Satan’s own conveyors. When any hapless, maniacal leech with a five dollar note can hie himself across town, corner to corner, from the slums where he hitches his infernal contraption, to a Socialist cabal’s baleful communion, to a house of desperation where daughters of poor family are pressed into unspeakable acts, and thereon to a maiden’s doorstep where — emboldened by cheap spirits — he will force an honest, loving father to floor and have his unspeakable way with an innocent within — then it explains entirely why we are so unhappily in this present condition of near-universal misery, degradation and moral decay. Like a bullet he blasts a path down the public way, ringing his little bell in spiteful parody of Sunday’s celestial chimes, forcing mothers, schoolchildren and upstanding Christian worshippers to dive for the gutter, soiling their Sabbath finery and barely escaping crippledom and lifelong disfigurement thereby. Even the proud, strong horses of our upstanding carriagemen are put near to flight and frightened half to death by the reckless, Godless, ever dingle’ing avalanche of so-called velocipedists which lately dominates (and indeed rapes) our peaceable public like a latterday Khan’s own riding raiders.
We will not stand for it anymore than we will abide Popery. That is all, SIR.
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Look how freaking smug she is. She did it intentionally
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>it’s a shitposter ignores Levittowns in defense of suburbs episode
Best post ITT
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kek
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Haha incredible
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I wish conservatives still talked like this
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Massive apartment complexes like you see in hong kong or Japan and NYC. That’s it really.
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Living in one building off the land together like the old style of castles and monasteries. The Owenites were onto something.
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bases
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What’s wrong with fake Chinese food that’s better than actual Chinese food? And what’s wrong with Darden restaurants? Those are great places to take Grandma on her birthday! She loves Olive Garden! The food is meh, but she loves it anyway and asks us to take her there every time.
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it’d be nice having something to look at other than strip malls and parking lots
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>What’s wrong with fake Chinese food that’s better than actual Chinese food?
Speaking as someone that’s had both, they get the spices wrong. The meat does tend to be of higher quality than in real chinese food, like even when it’s pork being used in both cases. But I chalk that up to higher quality meat being cheaper in the US than in China. -
>not going with your Italian grandpa to an authentic little Italian pizza shop that he knew the owners sis from highschool when he founded the place and tells us about his memories eating in the same booth with his wife who died when you were 1 and 1/2
>Not listening to him talk the shit with the Ecuadorians who work there and teaching them things in Italian while they teach him things in Spanish which are very similar and having him tell you he wants to move out there someday maybe even though he’s in his 90s and never lived anywhere but he just loves to talk and you love to listen…I miss my grandpa ;-;
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I used to live in Colorado Springs and I literally couldn’t remember where anything was because everything looks exactly like this.
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>mfw every town that borders mine is like this
>but not mine
Feels good to have SOVL and be a real old style New England town but it’s scary man. I see them building shit in the woods around me all the time and hate it, they spread like a virus. Nothing but boujie fucks wanting to ruin my comfy woods and comfy town. -
This is the 2000s completely summed up.
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man this reminds me I have like $150 worth of Darden gift cards I need to use or sell. Longhorn Steakhouse is yums.
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one you can afford i guess
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Something have to remember that that architects generally don’t design this shit in the suburbs but it’s caused by negotiation between the city council and construction companies.
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African village style.
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Wow, so rich and mesmerizing! We could learn a lot from them!
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Shit does look cool though. Reminds me of the things in the waiting room they had at the dentists when I was a kid you could go inside and climb up into and peer out the little window from
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Everything that is inhabitated by africans isn’t a good alternative.
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SOUL
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Kinda comfy ngl. Which part of the continent is it from?
Madre de Dios…
Suburban housing is only a problem because rapid demand from urban sprawl incentivizes large scale tract homes which can trend cookie cutter, and the community centers become tacky and commercial. In most other ways they’re great for quality of life and value.
Small towns with individually unique, charming homes is the ideal.
Houses that are more in tune with nature.
>tfw wood panelling isn’t in fashion and probably never will be again because modern housebuilding techniques are in a race to the bottom to see who can build the cheapest shitshack possible
Modern minimalist house design is only a fashion because property developers are cheap garden gnomes. And now, it’ll be the fashion forever until our present society collapses.Comfy
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Likely nothing, since every type of living condition comes with its own benefits and detriments which do not outweigh any other condition. We can however make a claim about the most economic conditions which would be dependent on geographic location.
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the piazza. Instead of building rows of houses, build them around a central point, like a piazza, park, church, etc.
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In America, that piazza would be value-engineered into a parking lot, and you’d just end up with this kind of thing. The area needs to be well-served by public transit and zoned in an unconventional way to get away from the default state of all open space becoming parking or green buffer space between buildings and parking.
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Apartment in the city. Any place where a car is required to go anywhere and where you can’t just walk or take public transport is shit.
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I love Barcelona’s design. I need to visit there some day
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>Neighbor half a city block away leaves his oven on and everyone in the neighborhood burns to death
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>what is a firewall
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yeah the kind of countries that build hideous commieblocks for efficiency’s sake definitely have high safety standards in their building codes
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This MAY surprise you but not everyone builds houses in wood and cardboard.
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This may surprise you but a building can still catch fire even with brick walls.
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Absolutely woke af and redpilled
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Pre-ww2 neighborhood.
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This.
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this.
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comfy, reasonably sized towns, euro style
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Move to New England
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Fuck off we’re full
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So why the fuck are you importing Somalis and poos?
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Streetcar suburb. Some modern American neighborhoods on the single-family-houses-only model can be nice, but these are basically upper middle class and start at the upper 300k/low 400k in the cheaper major cities. The norm now is OP pic, which is a blazing hot hellscape in the summer, causes insane congestion on the roads outside the subdivision, and requires paying a percentage of your paycheck to the car dealership. Not to mention the tiny shitty lawns that only exist to provide unofficial employment for illegal immigrants.
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It would look better if they worked in more trees and open spaces and maybe some creeks, mixed up the house designs and colors – being able to touch your neighbor’s house (which is identical to yours) with a broom handle from within your own house with literally freaking nothing to break up the terrain and make the neighborhood not feel like some creepy zoo all just makes it seem like it was designed by people who have never freaking been outside before.
I live in suburban New England but it’s normal to have strips of forest between streets, ponds and rivers and bridges over them, the houses are all different colors and shapes, really dense tree lines everywhere – it is almost as densely settled as this but looks way freaking better and less sterile.
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segregation
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Suburban housing is only a problem because rapid demand from urban sprawl incentivizes large scale tract homes which can trend cookie cutter, and the community centers become tacky and commercial. In most other ways they’re great for quality of life and value.
Small towns with individually unique, charming homes is the ideal.
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This is my dream, this is everything I want in life
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Just wait till you find out how bad the internet is in those small towns.
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Its great
I live in that town-
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Its north Idaho.
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Oh shit I guess I coulda searched that image. Good for Wallace Idaho I guess, are you using satellite?
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DSL
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Just get space internet from Elon Musk. It’s not that expensive.
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Anon I get double that on a bad day.
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Hopefully by the time I move to a small town like that technology will have progressed to the point where the internet is much stronger and more accessible
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you can easily move to one of these, most places like this need more citizens, especially educated ones
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Just wait till you find out how bad the internet is in those small towns.
Its great
I live in that townFrom a town of 4,000 in Vermont and because of Satellite internet I’m almost at broadband speeds
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Where is this?
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Wallace Idaho
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Yeah I’d move to a place like this in an instant, and then I’d have to move back out in an instant because there’s no jobs there. which is precisely why these lovely little towns look so lovely
as nice as they are to look at and visit there are very good reasons why you can’t take it as a model for how communities should be
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We always have jobs. I can name five places in town hiring right now, if you’re so behind you can’t work from home. Cope more urbie.
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what kinds of jobs are available?
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Welder
Gunsmith shop assistant
Nurse aid
Teacher
Grocery clerkYou can also commute to the city
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How long is the commute to the city?
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40 mins to the city of 50k
20 minutes to five other towns of about 1000
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There is no one single best type of housing. There are different housing environs with different types of house that are better suited to those environs.
Stop centralising everything in big cities. Cities are the source of countless social and cultural problems in modern industrialised society, not to mention the massive amounts of resources they consume and waste they produce.
Towns should be small and compact, population of no more than 50,000. If you can’t walk from one side of the town to the other in about 10 to 15 minutes then it’s too big. Houses similar to the three to four storey Victorian homes popular in bongistan are most appropriate for these towns, with heavy emphasis on that thing which is apparently radioactive to American urban planners: mixed use development. Towns need to be walkable, everything you need can be close to your home if you live in an urban setting. Problems with car parking and congestion stop being problems if you don’t have cars because you don’t need them.
Need to travel to another city? A well-developed railway network connecting towns, with towns not being too far away from each other.
Rural areas can be stand-alone homes or small villages with a few hundred residents. People out there will likely need their own private vehicles and a road network to go with it, but this isn’t too big of a deal when the population density out there is low.
Modern populations are too large due to the scrotebrained gnomish economic belief in eternal growth. Most Western nations need to cut their populations in half and get the remaining population more spread out into smaller towns and regional areas, rather than heavily condensed in large cities.
If you haven’t cottoned on yet, tl;dr the 20th century was a mistake, we need to turn back the clock and look at how people lived in the 19th century if we want to fix our urban planning and housing development woes.
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woke af
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Sure, but what the fuck about the rest of the world while you do that? They’re not gonna stop wanting to come here.
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I think the problem of third world immigration is an easily fixable problem. It’s not a question of whether it can be stopped, it definitely can, it’s more a question of whether there’s political will to do so. Right now there is no such will, as it benefits western governments to allow massive unfettered immigration of both the legal and illegal varieties. They may sometimes make small efforts to stem the tide but these efforts are just for show, typically to please the electoral base.
If a modern functioning government wanted to, the problem could quite literally be fixed overnight, like flicking a switch.
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The fundamental problem us that the country is overpopulated. Cut down the US population by say, one hundred million, and things would be so much better.
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>tfw wood panelling isn’t in fashion and probably never will be again because modern housebuilding techniques are in a race to the bottom to see who can build the cheapest shitshack possible
Modern minimalist house design is only a fashion because property developers are cheap garden gnomes. And now, it’ll be the fashion forever until our present society collapses.-
I hate modern minimalist house design but this wood paneling looks disgusting tbh
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Houses that are more in tune with nature.
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Khruschevkas, of course.
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I have a morbid curiosity on what would happen to the USA if they switched to the Soviet style mass housing/apartment complexes with purely industrial cities
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We have those, they are called “projects” and they suck
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DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it’s so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i’m in one of my favourite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it’s got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it’s a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it’s also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we’re both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i’m fuckin JACKED man, i’m gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!
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I like the american suburbs. I live in a small commieblock apartment and I dream of a big house with all the space I want and a garden all for myself. I also like the terraced houses with big gardens that you see upper class people in Italy have and I wish I had a place like that too.
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More Italy
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They’re closer together than the american suburb but still much much much bigger and more spacious than my commieblock
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Disgust for suburbs as tacky is a bougie liberal snob position
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None, the only way to create a alternative that would have the same benefits that the American suburb would be a decentralization of the population. Of course, that’s not happening, as bigger cities allow a bigger flux of money to happen
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Like, yeah, no scrotes I get that but I really don’t like having to spend 2hrs driving to and from work every day.
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The fact that I can’t see any fences in this pic is what drives me insane
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Only serious alternative (just adding in more parks and gardens here and there)
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American suburban zoning is the worst. Old school inner city is where it’s at
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Would you Euros like to know why suburbs exist? THIS IS freaking WHY! You live in a city with infrastructure and factories you get bombed pure and simple. Suburbs don’t get bombed because attacking civilians is frowned upon and there is litteraly 0 militarily targets. WWII is the reason America wanted to move its workforce away from cities just in case a Dresden or Hiroshima happened in the US.
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>americans
>caring about civilians
>not bombing suburbs-
Name one time a suburb was bombed
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Serbia 1999 Nis
t. was there-
Nis is a city not a suburb so it is a valid military target. Suberbs are by design away from cities to avoid needless civilian deaths
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The suburbs of Nis you dumb fuck
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Shouldn’t have started a war in the suburbs stupid turkoserb
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We dig
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What advatages at all are there to this style of design? Wouldn’t moving that much earth be a massive cost sink?
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it’s like coruscant bro
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Thermoregulation is extremely cheap underground. You don’t need to spend much energy/money on heating and cooling.
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Is it so much cheaper that it makes up for the costs of moving god-knows how many tons of earth? That much digging would take years extra to complete.
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None.
>Electric light everywhere
>Gotta pump down the air
>Gotta pump up the shit
>Gotta pump up any water that gets in there
>Good luck evacuating that thing
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It would flood. Next.
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Mexico is notorious for earthquakes. One major shift and all those people be dead yo
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How horrible.
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Neighborhoods that actually have stores abd churches you can walk to and decent public transportation.
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American rural housing
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house looks made of cardboard
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It’s made of wood and brick
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doubt
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Yea look at the bottom of the guest house there scrotebrain, below that bottom window the wood stops and brick begins.
Since it’s built into a hill it needs to have a lot of brick because the terrain here is too wet to have wood just on the ground.
It would rot-
ok shartmutt
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YOU CANT HAVE BIG HOUDE IN THE EOODS YOU KNOW EHAT I THINK IT MADR OF CARBORD HAHAHA ITS NOT REAL IT NOT REAL!!!
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amerishart homes are notoriously made of shitty cheap materials, yes
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only the ones built after the 80s when Reagan shat all over the US and turned it into corporate oligarchy exploitation-capitalism. the wood and brick homes in my neighborhood have been here since the 1800s.
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nothing, American suburban housing IS the superior alternative
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ancient white people built this.
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Beat this!
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Holy shit that looks super cozy
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Small apartments
they say 4 floors is the limit where you start to feel disconnected from other living there, and then just make sure plant life is well kept
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