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Call me edgy but the collective hate one feels why try to cure it & move to the light, why not fuel it & give into those emotions give into the hate rage take revenge , enjoy the suffering of those you hate
i know it could lead to self destructive behavior but if you can manage the self destructive behaviors why not explore that side of things
>i feel like a pussy scrote slave going down the forgiveness live & let live path negative emotions drives me when i was homeless spiting & taking revenge on family& friends who look downed on me was the one thing that kept me from blowing my brains out
why should we not explore that darker side of the human experience jesus teaches the power of forgiveness who teaches the power of revenge hate & vengeance
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What is more evil?
One that does evil but can not comprehend it as evil.
One that does evil because he knows it is evil.-
>One that does evil because he knows it is evil
Obviously this one.
You forgot the "Knows its evil but doesn’t care, doesn’t enjoy it but don’t care" -
the problem with this thinking is that people can go around and bludgeon the lives of others and feign ignorance
somewhere, deep down, we know. we just want to do our own thingall this does it let people who decide they want to pay mind to others do what they want, and those who do pay mind are hindered
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The theory of embracing your shadow is pretty much this.
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This exists already, just wear a mask and use convenient excuses at your disposal to do and feel behind a veil like everyone else.
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so what you saying is solidify your own personal beliefs be 100% in your own convictions & walk through the world wearing the mask everyone else wears But when do you take it off to make a true connection with someone else
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at last a non anti semite thread thanks fellow semites
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That’s the whole idea behind the "Left Hand Path". There is the freedom to do so, so God allows people to choose to do this and become evil.
Some say there needs to be balance, any amount of good you have to have that amount of evil somewhere to balance it. Whether that’s true or not, embracing evil is how we get irl villains, so if you want to explore it, be our guest, but be aware that you are pretty much completely bonked until some kind soul decides to save you, or you somehow save yourself. Latter is not usually possible. Good Luck, and Godspeed.
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>Some say there needs to be balance, any amount of good you have to have that amount of evil somewhere
i am coming to the belief that that balance dont really have to exist in the same soul. if too much of evil/ good exist in a community a new soul will come along to balance things off thats why prophets are born in evil hell holes to lead their people out of the darkness
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The RHP rebuttal of the shadow theory is that purification directly correlates to spiritual growth, so immersing yourself in evil is going backwards. "blackening" your chakras is just undoing the purifying work of the RHP methods.
Spectrum of Morality:
>LHP: willing to inflict any amount of evil for the smallest personal gain
>Middle Path: A good balance of caring for personal needs and those of society
>RHP: extreme altruism even to the point of neglecting personal needs-
of cause the RHP will say that
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…this is all wrong and it is apparent you don’t know what you are talking about. Not surprising though. You sound like a judgmental religious zealot. An alternative isn’t automatically evil lmao. How simple minded are you.
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I swim on the darker side of emotions, but the truth is that most people get consumed by their own enraged mind and end up hurting themselves the most, even when their objective is to hurt others.
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something being a double edge sword doesnt mean you should not wield it to accomplish your goals understand the risk/harm that could come from it & move accordingly
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agreed, without forgiving everyone who hurt you, "evil" is nothing but hurting (or rather cucking) yourself
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the choice is yours friend
if you’re feeling fulfilled by your experience with hate, rage, revenge, etc, then go ahead and partakeboth you and reality are mirrors
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some people see the sky as orange. that person have to go through life hearing how everyone else sees blue sooner or later they start to question their sanity instead of saying they are destine to walk a different path than the rest
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Inverted vision?
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also, honestly, i think pointing the gun at those whom you feel deserve it is a lot more palatable for most people than pointing it at, say, innocents.
anyway, it’s just about the kind of experience you wish to have
the choice is yours>jesus teaches the power of forgiveness
jesus teaches forgiveness, but it’s more like at the end of the day, there’s nothing to forgive
it’s just two people (or w/e) that had a disjointed reaction between one another.
no one better or worse or whatever, just different, that happened to be at different placesonce you come to understandings, you don’t really need forgiveness. you can just see reality like a school.
i can use anger and rage, frustration, etc. i think they’re all useful emotions. if you feel them they’re valid. repression can be just as "bad"
but i’m not sure i "genuinely" feel anger and rage, because i see this whole thing as a drama or a simulation
it’s really just about how i feel like acting, usually for a broader, more fulfilling experience with life. -
What do you seriously have to get revenge about, or be evil about? Some guy being a dick? I bet they are petty grudges at most
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its not about taking revenge its about walking the path you feel most honest with yourself
how many people sprout the power of forgiveness bullshit as a coping mechanism for their weakness. when that the power of forgiveness does not work that hate will manifest in other ways in their life
forgiveness is not a replacement for hate
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>as a coping mechanism for their weakness.
yeahjust ask yourself if you want the feeling at the end of the day
are you feeling…fulfilled or…"right" about anger or hatred? it’s really up to you. it’s all a human experienceif you don’t want to feel that way anymore, or you’ve had to sacrifice a lot in order to give those feelings the stage, and you no longer want to, then let it go
you don’t even really need to forgive, just forget it.
it’s just humans having reactions woke af on conditioningbut if you want those feelings for whatever, then go for it
if you don’t want it inside you, then don’t-
>forgive, just forget it.
why do you limit yourself between forgiveness OR forget there are other options you know-
the presupposition was; IF -you- don’t want the feelings, then forgive or forget
if you want to embrace them, then embrace them
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What even is evil? We are just moving matter around aimlessly. Our effect on the greater picture is non existent.
Look at the universe a different way. We are experiencing time because we are alive. In the universe there is no time. Everything is everything at every time in ever state simultaneously. We are just photographing it.
So does it really matter that you hurt someone’s feelings? Stole from them? Nope. There is no good and bad there is no light and darkness.
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>What even is evil?
everything is a set of normalizations
but you can look at it as that which causes great distress to those whom have never caused anyone great distressbasically stress responses
theres stress you want and stress you dont want, all relative to you and your conditioningsome people/groups/forces feed on stress, so you just make them stronger by giving it to them
others don’t want the stress/distress you’re giving them. and this is akin to the realm of "evil"also pay mind that if they wanted it today and really don’t want it tomorrow, you’ll still carry that cost
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if its all matter interacting with that matter in ways that will cause YOU personal harm is evil & trying to walk a path i am not destine to walk the path of the light is evil for me
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basically stress responses
theres stress you want and stress you dont want, all relative to you and your conditioningsome people/groups/forces feed on stress, so you just make them stronger by giving it to them
others don’t want the stress/distress you’re giving them. and this is akin to the realm of "evil"also pay mind that if they wanted it today and really don’t want it tomorrow, you’ll still carry that cost
the industrial revolution would not have happened in the west without the rape of recourses of Africa would you say we are apart of a evil nation & was founded on evil
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All civilization requires slavery of some kind. Even if the slaves are too ignorant to realize what they are.
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>t. works a part time shift n Walmart
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I don’t think this is true.
All civilization on this planet with these rules would probably require work, of some kind.
But that’s not the same thing.
I’m fairly certain the country I live in could prosper in isolation even with the working week being 32 hours for everyone. It’s probably completely unecessary for us all to work as much as we do, it could honestly probably be less than that, for literally everyone.Working 4 days a week to keep society running isn’t really slavery at that point, I can’t think of any jobs I wouldn’t be willing to do for my community for 4 days a week. It’s the 50,60,70 hours a week bullshit selling trinkets no one needs that’s getting a little dorky.
I guess if you demand that we throw away this much food, burn down the homes we build for the homeless, arrest people for victimless crimes, and create enough trinkets to fill landfills for no reason, then maybe civilization requires slavery.
But thats not civilization really, that’s just ….this nonsense.
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what things are you willing to live without? during the industrial revolution the world was divided up into plantations
people who slave away 18 hrs a day in the Ivory Coast never taste the Chocolate they slave away for. the 3rd world countries economies are set up to serve the first world & if the people want that to change the first world embargos or sends in slave catchers military to put things back in the first world favor
to the people who slave away in the 3rd world its just work but if they see the bigger picture they will see it as evil slavery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70jsvEhU9Wo&ab_channel=MichaelEberle
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I am wiling to live without a tremendous amount of things. Give me the keys to the world and watch me reduce the amount of chocolate we have access to until those people don’t have to spend a lifetime just so we can throw crunch bars in the trash by the hundreds of thousands each year the day after halloween.
It’s not a difficult problem, it’s a people problem.
I don’t give a shit if I never taste chocolate again in my entire life, let alone if I could trade that one thing to balance this world out some.They might see it as work, but to me it is slavery. Useless, nonsense slavery, to no effect, with no desirable outcome.
The only imaginable reason I can find is to control the population. It’s not like an entire coast of people wouldn’t come up with something more interesting than chocolate, it’s probably because the chocolate keeps people from revolting.
I guarantee an entire coast of people with the time to actual explore reality would give us something more interesting than freaking snickers. We can do better, it wouldn’t be hard, and it’s a people problem, not an actual problem.
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the balance of this world you seek is a pipe dream
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It sounds a little like those people are making fun of whites for eating something so sweet. "this is why white people are so healthy!"
God I hope they are.-
through propaganda lack of education & white being the ruling class these people worship whites this is why when they wake up to the reality their enslavement that worship turns into such unimaginable hate for the west
that hate makes them produce some of the greatest works of warfare in modern history
the management of savagery- a bible on how to set up a functioning state while being occupied by a more powerful nation
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through propaganda lack of education & white being the ruling class these people worship whites this is why when they wake up to the reality their enslavement that worship turns into such unimaginable hate for the west
that hate makes them produce some of the greatest works of warfare in modern history
the management of savagery- a bible on how to set up a functioning state while being occupied by a more powerful nation
This is why i say exploring the side of hate revenge the darker side of things have so much MORE to give humanity. forgiveness jesus & all those things are so played out
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this is relative to perception
if we look at evolution as true, then rape way way back in our evolution was more just like a thing that happened
again, it’s still perception relative, and conditioning relative
even today some people want to be raped. is it "evil" to oblige? -
also masculine principle is, pretty much by design, rapey when it takes the lead.
when fem takes the lead, it’s more like facilitative or hypnotizing.for instance, locking everyone into jobs and controlling resources was forceful, and up the alley of "rape" mentality.
the same institutional framework that brought you the "residential schools" in canada
the old RCMP will say they were savages, and trying to get everyone on the same pageit really depends on what lens we’re viewing it through, and the lens we view it through is all relative to the current identity we are harboring
in short, good and evil get defined relative to context woke af on CURRENT sets of perspectives and values
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>facilitative or hypnotizing
haha and full of punishment.
Male energy tends to allow
Female energy tends to restrict.
Male energy’s evils come from allowing too much
Female energy’s evils come from restricting too much.Males facilitate
Females nurture
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Nope I wouldn’t. It’s kind of irrelevant. Nations are founded on lies to facilitate greed. Go and attack the political class.
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Go live in Africa.
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>What makes people dive 100% into Evil
Going 0.1% to evil, then again, and again, and again..
If you make a leap, you’ll leap out of it like a frog jumping to a tub of boiling water. -
Because eventually, you’ll end up destroying something you love. And soon enough, it’ll come back to you. So you might as well just go ahead and have a nice day and speed up the inevitable while also sparing innocent lives in the process.
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valuing "innocent" lives over your own & the freedom of your soul some people are destine to be slaves
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And the lives you take will come back upon you ten fold upon death. You will know pain if you sow it. You will know fear if you sow it. Have fun living in hatred and anger. When it comes back on you, don’t say you weren’t warned.
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I would say going down the forgiveness, live and let live path is far from being a pussy scrote slave. It takes true patience and mental fortitude to forgive others for hurting you. I know this because the weakest and dumbest people I’ve ever met are never able to let things go. They let it all boil up and they refuse to move on.
Forgiveness is the embodiment of strength. Christ was onto something.
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>forgiveness
to accomplish what goal just to say you have the power to forgive
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Because you’re just a slave to unconscious impulses then. You’re moving further into unconsciousness
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Something I learned probably literally yesterday, or at least remembered yesterday, that might help.
Forgiveness doesn’t necessarily include all of the things that society associates with it.
Forgiveness is, defined by psychologists, (and helpful in this context I believe) is the conscious decision to let go of feelings of animosity and thoughts of revenge.
This doesn’t necessarily mean that you give those people any power back, or any influence, or any remorse, or any attention, or any respect, or any time at all.
In fact, you can forgive and just walk away from them literally forever. This is why forgiveness is for sinners too, because its the path to freedom.
When people now-a-days say "forgive", they sometimes mean "let the feelings of hate and revenge go away, and then let them back into your life and open your heart to them". Which, ideally, I still believe people should try a few times, or at least remain the capacity to do so.
But in this context, in your context, I don’t think that’s the point of forgiveness.
Honestly, there’s not much of a point of taking revenge or hating people for the things they did to US PERSONALLY. Now, if they hurt your family or something else, that’s different. But when someone wrongs you, it usually just makes sense to walk away and forget they existed. After all, if they ever show up again or track you down or something, you can always take revenge then, but any active choice you make to take revenge for attacks done to you is ultimately another price you are paying. And if you consider the kinds of people you’d take revenge on, your time is probably better spent somewhere else. It’s not like these people who are attacking others are living very good lives, they are probably going to get shit on for the rest of theirs anyway.-
yeah this is what i was saying
it’s really just about what mood or feelings you want to harbor
if you want the experience of them or not-
I’m not entirely with that.
While I was aiming to try and show OP that forgiveness is for the sinner as well,
I still think his entire post has more consequence then what you seem to be saying.It’s not just about what experience we want to have, it’s also about what kind of existence we want out of the world.
Our actions are like tiny prayers to the universe- if you can forgive the people who harmed you, in a small way, you are projecting outwards the prayer for a place in the universe where you would be forgiven. These little prayers are important, because they are basically what make our conscious dreams, they sort of define our "energetic" (for lack of a better word) impression on the universe.
By projecting forgiveness, letting go of hate and revenge, even on those that harm you, you are projecting a little prayer into the universe that where you "belong", your "typecaste", is home/village/reality/universe filled with beings that would forgive even the awful shit, let alone the normal mistakes. That’s super important, since we don’t actually seem to know for sure what’s after all of this, these tiny prayers that we make inside ourselves may be the defining factor in what happens to us. If there is any possibility of the universe knowing our feelings and thoughts, it probably knows our intentions and prayers as well, and if it has any intention of sorting us into like-minded groups, the ability to project your "energy" in a prayer for a home that you can TRULY feel safe in, a place filled with people who believe in peace the way your "energetic projection" believes in peace, is the opportunity to possibly geniunely end up there. Real peace, real love, actual attention to detail, actually listening to each other.
To throw away that possibility on the short term joy of typecasting your energetic resonance as a hate/revenge style …thrillseeker? (maybe not the best word, not trying to be condescending) might be a….thoughtless decision.
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Something I learned probably literally yesterday, or at least remembered yesterday, that might help.
Forgiveness doesn’t necessarily include all of the things that society associates with it.
Forgiveness is, defined by psychologists, (and helpful in this context I believe) is the conscious decision to let go of feelings of animosity and thoughts of revenge.
This doesn’t necessarily mean that you give those people any power back, or any influence, or any remorse, or any attention, or any respect, or any time at all.
In fact, you can forgive and just walk away from them literally forever. This is why forgiveness is for sinners too, because its the path to freedom.
When people now-a-days say "forgive", they sometimes mean "let the feelings of hate and revenge go away, and then let them back into your life and open your heart to them". Which, ideally, I still believe people should try a few times, or at least remain the capacity to do so.
But in this context, in your context, I don’t think that’s the point of forgiveness.
Honestly, there’s not much of a point of taking revenge or hating people for the things they did to US PERSONALLY. Now, if they hurt your family or something else, that’s different. But when someone wrongs you, it usually just makes sense to walk away and forget they existed. After all, if they ever show up again or track you down or something, you can always take revenge then, but any active choice you make to take revenge for attacks done to you is ultimately another price you are paying. And if you consider the kinds of people you’d take revenge on, your time is probably better spent somewhere else. It’s not like these people who are attacking others are living very good lives, they are probably going to get shit on for the rest of theirs anyway.[…]
I will add that Jesus does teach a very certain type of revenge, that can actually be very satisfying.
It’s called the rejection of the material universe. If you actually start following that path, and you start geniunely speaking the truth to people instead of lying the way society wants you to, you start calling out the manipulations of society, you stand your ground, AND you refuse to fear death, it’s possible (and it seems very likely from my experience) that you will piss off and expose people incredibly well, and you might just find that you have such inner peace and control of your mind and heart that you leave the people around you basically drowning in envy and willing to trip over themselves to beat you down.
So, if you are into being on top, that is a very easy and fast way there. It might legitimately be the most difficult thing possible, but even just being willing to try seems to fill normal people with such an incredible envy that the persecution is basically guaranteed.
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I take back that last sentence- in SOME cases the people are already living difficult shitty lives, that’s not always the case.
If you get shit on by some rich poopyhole, and you know a way to bring down their company or something, that’s probably worth it, even if only because it makes a good story. But there’s not even much artistic interest in a revenge story against a mother most of the time. Not always, but pretty often, those people already live in emotional squalor.
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You should do everything in your power to avoid doing bonked up shit. Fuck the left hand path garbage and screw embracing the shadow. Doing bonked up shit may lead you to a bonked up afterlife.
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Losing something, typically
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or never losing something. that will do it too.
for example, someone who is spoiled
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Its like getting drunk or high an addiction
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Desperation, survival, entitlement, etc.
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sorry if youre high up on the hierarchy. i just want to know someones got the wheel. dont you think its the same shit?
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adrenaline, horniness, regret and suffering, anger and extreme feelings of betrayal, rush of adrenaline when doing evil that feels like nothing else, extreme hatred towards certain people, extreme betrayal for when people that wronged you have infinite lives better than you, they also laugh in your face because of that, again, rush of adrenaline from feeling powerful over others, orgasmic anger and satisfaction when beating someone weaker than you, I could go on and on. I was like this but I realised none of it is worth it because you will just burn forever in hell if you turn to violence and evilness, back then I didn’t belive in hell so I also thought man my enemies are never gonna pay for what they did, now I actually don’t want them to, I don’t wish hell on anybody.
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