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What is it about Barbarossa that feels so kino?
It’s like everything in history happened as a build-up towards it and nothing before or since even matters anymore.
It’s like 2 autisms clashed and the result is absolutely spectacular.
It’s the closest we ever got to a real apocalypse and it probably seemed that way to witnesses.
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>It’s the closest we ever got to a real apocalypse and it probably seemed that way to witnesses.
This is why, it’s just all out brutality on a massive scale. Two gigantic armies facing off in a no holds barred battle to the death with no one spared. Not just that the SS/Wehrmacht and Red Army were pure soul.
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I think it’s just the way history is taught and viewed. WW2 is the most important event in recent history and the invasion of the Soviet Union is one of the most important part of the war. I’ve even seen some people refer to it as WW2s main front. So history pre ww2, is viewed as just buildup to it, and it’s defining event. That’s my theory at least
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>I’ve even seen some people refer to it as WW2s main front.
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>I’ve even seen some people refer to it as WW2s main front.
Uh, obviously? The largest battles in human history were battles of that front.
>Kursk-Prokhorovka
>Stalingrad
>Rzhev
>Dnieper ’43
>Leningrad-
Mutts are brainwashed to think the small skirmishes in the West somehow mattered.
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It goes both ways, in Russian education the Second World War starts in 1941
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And Euros are brainwashed into thinking the WORLD war only took place in Europe, evidently
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For once because something like that is rare.
Huge industrial nations rarely fight each other to the death (because it is scrotebrained). Except Barbarossa the only other case is France and Germany in WW1.
For that shit two literally BOTH have to be ruled by a ruthless, totalitarian dictatorship with absolute control and support, which of course is very rare.
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Ahem…Iran/Iraq war
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Which is also very kino.
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yeah
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not really that industrial where they?
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>What is it about Barbarossa that feels so kino?
The sheer scale, the depths of human depravity, and the mutual genuine desire of both sides to completely annihilate the other is unlike any war that has come before or since. It was a true clash of the titans where the winner would take all and the loser would have all taken. The Eastern Front represented the culmination of a milennia of souring East-West relations dating back the Great Schism of 1054, even more so than the Cold War which had the potential to be even bigger, but was staved off in part because of sobering lessons learned on the vast Russian steppe from 1941 to 1945.
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Because it was a clash of the races, history books just don’t call it that way for obvious reasons.
Slavs are extremely different from Westoids, but of course mutts and non-whites can’t tell the difference.
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Except neither side thought they were a distinct race. Hitler in MK even says they weren’t a race.
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The Soviet Union was multi-racial scrotebrain
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>That garden gnome
Woke af artist
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Slavoids ruin the European genepool and needed to go.
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Hitler attacked the Soviet Union because he wanted a stronger base to face the British and American empires and because he needed resources that he had no other way of getting (together with internal pressures and the fact that the rapid USSR military improvement would make waiting another year extremely dangerous). Painting it as a racial deathmatch is just the propaganda needed to get the masses to accept it, the same applies to Stalin and the capitalist menace.
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It was the explosive end of the old-style European colonialism with Germany, having been cockblocked by Britain and fearing the rise of the United States, turned the imperial land- and resource-grabbing to Eastern Europe. In this sense, the USSR was like a "third world" country and I think the impact of the 1917 revolution was greater in colonized and semi-colonized countries.
The USSR was very centralized of course but I think the initial idea at least was to create a socialist version of the European Union or something with various republics including Central Asian republics.
I don’t know much about anti-Slavism in Europe, but here in the U.S., the media likes to present Russia as a Mordor-like place. I like to listen to music from around the world, and I showed my mother this video one time and she was kinda surprised by it:
She didn’t say why, and I didn’t ask her, but she gets her news about the world from CNN and MSNBC and she’s a "good" middle-class liberal who votes for Democrats, but a lot of these "good" liberals in the U.S. have views about other countries that are not very different from right-wing ultranationalists. She’s not a bad person, and she’s my mother, but people are heavily propagandized to, so I try to challenge that in little ways. But of course, that video of those Russian musicians is a very "nice" image compared to the middle-class liberals like my mother. I like this guy, too:
I don’t speak Russian but he makes comedy music videos, and some of his other videos will also talk about Western stereotypes of Russians and so forth. I like ordinary people like that.
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>Painting it as a racial deathmatch is just the propaganda needed to get the masses to accept it
I’d be more willing to believe this if Hitler didn’t spend the last 2 years of the war autisticly killing every garden gnome he could get his hands on
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Germans from Saxony and Brandenburg are literally genetically identical to Czechs and Poles lmao
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Because it was Western civilization’s final attempt to quell the steppe barbarians once and for all.
It failed. Civilized people will forever have to live in fear of the hordes from the East
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The West literally fought Hitler, you’re not making any sense.
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The Anglo*
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France, Greece, Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Denmark, and almost all of Latin America all fought against Germany too
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I like it, i’ve got Operation Barbarossa and Germany’s Defeat in the East by david stahel and glantz’s Barbarossa Derailed on my reading list
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Iran-Iraq war was close to Barbarossa but much smaller scale.
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Wars that are just as brutal as Barbarossa are usually against natives and the natives only manage to win some battles at best.
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because it was recent, so its well documented
the most underrated historical war kino is 30 years war -
the biggest spergout in history
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What is that scrotebrained map
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yeh remember the start of babarossa where germany annexed italy, hungary, romania and sweden all at once
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>What is it about Barbarossa that feels so kino?
You are a manchild that enjoys playing war in your imagination-
This
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It represents how far the bourgeoisie will go to crush communism. But their efforts are in vain. World Bolshevism will defeat the world bourgeoisie.
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Stalin himself was doing a pretty good job of crushing communist expansion outside of the USSR
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Anti-Communists of differing types will simultaneously say Stalin "annexed" the Baltic republics and "puppeted" Eastern Europe, Mongolia and Korea and yet also stopped Soviet "expansion". Just like depending on which type of fascist you ask, Stalin either wanted to kill garden gnomes or was gnomish himself. I ignore it since they’re always dishonest cretins who would have cheered on the fascists.
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>Anti-Communists of differing types will simultaneously say Stalin "annexed" the Baltic republics and "puppeted" Eastern Europe
True. Stalin was a barbaric Judeo-Boleshivik monster guilty of some of the most prolifac crimes in world history. "Socialism in one country" was just a gnomish lie; Stalin maintained the Communist International well into World War II. Even after the policy of "Socialism in One Country" the Soviets launched coups in Spain and Estonia to replace the governmens there with gnomish ones. You heebs lie through your hooked nose; we see right through it.-
settle down shitskin amerimutt
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You see right through it and can do nothing about it. If whites don’t have the strength to preserve our own race then so be it, its just survival of the fittest.
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100 years and anticommunists still don’t have anything except hysterical antisemitism to bail them out.
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Imagine beliving this gnomish shit. It was communism that struck the first blow.
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And frankly there will be more Barbarossas in the future. Probably with nuclear weapons next time.
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No, it represents how far sane people will go to crush scrotebraination
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If fascism is considered sane that’s a good argument for insanity.
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>He argued that the war against the Soviet Union "cannot be conducted in a knightly fashion" because it was a war of "ideologies and racial differences."
Woke af
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its when the series peaked
problem is the jumped the shark with the whole middle east arc
freaking gay -
sperg vs sperg
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WW2 is the new "revival mythos" for a lot of nations around the world now, where people pretend that everything changed even if it didn’t really all that much for them. And for some reason many people view history as a straight line timeline and thus measure events from the napoleonic wars onward leading up to WW2 and everything since then being a result of WW2. The eastern front was the largest, bloodiest, and most vicious so its enormous scale attracts people to it. Mix this with German and Soviet propaganda attracting their own special kinds of autists that have been internet slapfighting about it for decades.
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>What is it about Barbarossa that feels so kino?
Being an underage normie
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