What happened to the African-American working class?

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    • #83813
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      What happened to the African-American working class?

    • #83814
      Anonymous
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      their communities were destroyed by drug culture

      • #83876
        Anonymous
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        Are you implying that white people didn’t explicitly harass black people and destroy black communities using the force of law, imported drugs that they then criminalized to use as a pretext to arrest and control them?

        Because there’s a fucking mountain of evidence that says otherwise in several presidential libraries.

    • #83815
      Anonymous
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      Welfare happened.

    • #83816
      Anonymous
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      >africans
      >working

      • #83833
        Anonymous
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        Well duh, why would you import slaves that don’t work!?

    • #83819
      Anonymous
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      never went anywhere. That’s really the thing. Black people stayed working class while others pulled ahead. Black people were in the sub-working class at the time when a working class job afforded an opportunity to climb the ladder, but as the white working class advanced and agreed to let negroes have the old shit jobs, they drove up prices for everything while wages stagnated. So that the opportunity was kinda yanked out under them as soon as they finally had a foot in the door

      kinda shitty story. It also makes me think a bit of the South and manufacturing industry. When the national economy moves on to bigger and better things, industry throws the scraps to the underclass, largely stripped of the benefits it provided the last batch of upwardly-mobile fortunates.

    • #83820
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      Early automation in the 1950’s eliminated a lot of low-level factory jobs in American cities. Big northern cities like Detroit had a lot of unskilled agrarian southern blacks moving up from places like Mississippi but no more jobs for them to fill, which led to disaster.

      • #83826
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        >Early automation in the 1950’s eliminated a lot of low-level factory jobs in American cities.
        Replacement of human labor has started when people began to use mules instead of their wives for plowing the fields, accelerated tremendously with the invention of a steam engine and has never reduced the number of "jobs".
        Billion of low-skilled Chinamen are churning out processors and smartphones on their production lines.

    • #83821
      Anonymous
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      mass immigration destroyed the working class of america by throttling down wages forever and ever

      • #83822
        Anonymous
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        You mean the immigration which started in the 1600s and continued steadily ever after?

        • #83836
          Anonymous
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          Correct
          Because we eventually ran out of west to expand into

        • #83873
          Anonymous
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          No, he’s referring to undesirable immigrants who have added nothing of value to this country.

          • #83875
            Anonymous
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            People add value or they die by definition. (unless they are artificially being kept alive by leftist morons like national socialists)

      • #83877
        Anonymous
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        >mass immigration
        Stop repeating these fucking lies.

        Correct
        Because we eventually ran out of west to expand into

        There’s less people per square mile out West than when the frontier was declared closed. The Great Plains are empty.

    • #83823
      Anonymous
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      A combination of the following factors:
      >War on Drugs (which caused gang culture and mass incarceration to emerge)
      >Sexual revolution (which caused a rise in single-mother households, and black women sexually rewarding black men who behave like thugs)
      >Decline in industrial and blue-collar jobs

      • #83825
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        The welfare state leftist morons created structural unemployment in the first place and it disproportionally affected blacks as being the weakest chain in the pecking order.
        Minimum wage laws were initially specifically intended to _forbid_ low earners (that is blacks) from even working.

        • #83829
          Anonymous
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          >Minimum wage laws were initially specifically intended to _forbid_ low earners (that is blacks) from even working.
          Source?

          • #83832
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            • #83838
              Anonymous
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              >FEE
              Omg lol you actually take them seriously? Blacks always got fucked over before min wage was thing because employers would only hire a Black guy if he was working for almost free.

              Due to their migratory nature, lack of all skill and education and propensity for emotional outbursts they were usually relegated to the bottom rung of society everywhere they went

              >propensity for emotional outbursts
              No real different than their white southern peers.

              • #83839
                Anonymous
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                Even if that were true white southerners didn’t flood into the industrial complexes in the north by the millions and demand jobs and housing

                • #83842
                  Anonymous
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                  they actually did. White southenrers were a big part of the great migration from the South. on top of that they were the ones that often screwed over Blacks in Detroit by importing their beliefs and work culture into the workplaces they entered.

                  • #83843
                    Anonymous
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                    >White southenrers were a big part of the great migration
                    No

                    • #83844
                      Anonymous
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                      They were. That’s why they moved north hand west as poverty was growing in the South. yYou think Blacks only had it bad in the south? Many states were a total mess in regards to poverty with education work being limited as fuck due to the positron and politics of the state in question.

                      No one really talks about it because the idea of whites moving in large numbers for jobs isn’t particularly new or strange in US history versus Blacks leaving their homelands to venture west/north.

                      • #83845
                        Anonymous
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                        Prove it blackoid

                      • #83846
                        Anonymous
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                        >The Great Migration of African Americans was the most consequential segment of the Diaspora, but numerically migrating Whites (more than 20 million) outnumbered the 7-8 million Black southerners who left during the 20th century

                      • #83848
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                        >Source: melanoid worshiper from Berkeley
                        yeah okay. lets read his book which is listed as the source, shall we?
                        >The Preface is him complaining about George Bush winning in 2004 because of those damned white southern republicans
                        Not a great start

                        >introduction is him complaining about white people
                        really not looking good, I’m just going to search for where he got his numbers…

                        It appears he used IPUMS which is a dataset of 1% of census results to create an "average"
                        >Whites consistently returned at much higher rates than African Americans. In most
                        intervals, whites were three times as likely to return.
                        >Throughout the postwar period, there was rapid turnover in the white migrant population. In the late 1950s, for every ten whites leaving the South, five returned. After 1965,
                        the turnover exceeded 75%
                        So it seems by the 1960’s 50% of the whites that left the south were returning home, in the 1930’s it was 30%. Only 20% of blacks returned to the South in the 60’s and 20% again in the 30’s. By 1975 100% of whites that left the south were replaced by southerners returning to the south, with 75% of the amount of migrants blacks making the journey home in the same time.

                        Going on to read his other data tables, black migrants vastly outnumbered whites in the Northeast, including Pennsylvania.

                        It seems he counted whites moving into the West as "northern" migrants. Indiana and Ohio were the only states in the midwest where white migration outnumbered blacks by a large margin. The rest of the whites all went west.

                        What a disingenuous faggot

                      • #83850
                        Anonymous
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                        what the fuck are you even ranting about?

                      • #83851
                        Anonymous
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                        Some nog said that blacks weren’t crowding into cities as much as white people because some white hating homosexual from Berkeley said so and I proved him wrong. Millions of blacks crowded into the northeast and midwest cities while most of the white people went out west after the civil war.

                      • #83852
                        Anonymous
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                        >Some nog said that blacks weren’t crowding into cities as much as white people
                        Where did he say that?

                      • #83854
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                      • #83857
                        Anonymous
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                        Your reading comprehension is absolutely miserable. Like real bad. he never said that blacks didn’t migrate in large numbers.

                        I just read the book and the book said that blacks outnumbered whites, sometimes by hundreds of thousands when crowding into northern cities.

                        Which book anon? No one even title dropped a book in this thread.

                      • #83858
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                        not to mention the maps on this page here https://depts.washington.edu/moving1/map_diaspora.shtml

                        show that most states had White southerns make up the majority of southerners and their number of migrants being larger. Only 2 states had blacks be a bit more in number

                      • #83860
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                        The data on those charts doesn’t include how many whites returned south in their lifetime. The author of the source that those numbers come from admits that whites were returning south 100-200% more often than black people. So even if whites were moving north in equal numbers to blacks, large numbers of them were also returning home, far dwarfing the populations of blacks returning home. The other problem is he pretends like states like California are "the north". His "20 million southerners moved to the north" claim isn’t even supported by his own data, the totals don’t even reach 10 million just by scanning the totals. The graphs also pretend like border states like Kentucky, West Virginia, Washington DC, Delaware and Maryland were "southern states". This is schizo tier narrative pushing.

                      • #83864
                        Anonymous
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                        Illiterate

                      • #83853
                        Anonymous
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                        Did you even look at the other parts at all considerations only New york state had a black majority in regards to southern migration? you didn’t prove anything wrong at all. Espcially since you seem to forget the sheer power that certain workers had over coercing their employers from not hiring certain groups lol.

                      • #83855
                        Anonymous
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                        oh and new jersey.

                      • #83856
                        Anonymous
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                        I just read the book and the book said that blacks outnumbered whites, sometimes by hundreds of thousands when crowding into northern cities.

        • #83841
          Anonymous
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          >The welfare state leftist morons created structural unemployment in the first place and it disproportionally affected blacks as being the weakest chain in the pecking order.

          Not really. blacks (and/or Hispanics) were always last to hire first fired. Couple that with workpalce racism or whites pressuring/attacking employers that hire those groups and you have a recipe for limited work opportunities. Also by the time welfare was a thing many blue collar/manufacturing jobs moved away from urban areas or the country entirely as the country shifted to service.

    • #83827
      Anonymous
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      Most of you guys need some basic economics book.
      "Economics in one lesson" will do.

    • #83828
      Anonymous
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      They became twisted vile disgusting abominations of themselves same end result with anyone who sets foot on american shores.

    • #83830
      Anonymous
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      They still exist.
      "Working Class" in America is fetishized to be exclusively be white male factory workers, the kind that journos tried to understand by travelling to diners in Trump country for some reason. In reality its increasingly diverse racially. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s majority female too.

    • #83831
      Anonymous
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      Still around. They still serve as a super exploited section of the American proletariat.

    • #83835
      Anonymous
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      Due to their migratory nature, lack of all skill and education and propensity for emotional outbursts they were usually relegated to the bottom rung of society everywhere they went

      • #83847
        Anonymous
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        >propensity for emotional outbursts
        You should visit Latin America or Southern Italy sometime

    • #83837
      Anonymous
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      They’re still around. I work with some of them

    • #83840
      Anonymous
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      Hoteps will say it’s because of buck breaking and garden gnomes
      Reality is that all their significant leaders like MLK, Fred Hampton, and Malcolm X were murdered by the FBI or local police departments then the war on drugs began and fucked up their communities to the point of no return

    • #83849
      Anonymous
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      The stopped working.

    • #83859
      Anonymous
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      The quote that the blackoid dropped that said southern whites are what ruined northern cities and outnumbered blacks was written by a white hating homosexual from Berkeley that purposefully misrepresented data and put all his number work at the end of a 400 page book. Probably because anybody reading his book are just going to take hi mat his word because they’re just looking for a reason to hate white people

    • #83861
      Anonymous
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      They became middle class due to favorable affirmative action policies while white middle class shrunk so that many became working class

      • #83865
        Anonymous
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        >They became middle class due to favorable affirmative action policies while white middle class shrunk so that many became working class

        you read too much /poo/

    • #83862
      Anonymous
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      gibs

    • #83863
      Anonymous
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      They stopped working and decided to either join a gang or become obese and live in welfare

    • #83872
      Anonymous
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      Didn’t go anywhere if you pay a visit to the GM plant where I live. Most of the workers are black.

    • #83879
      Anonymous
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      Nothing?
      I worked at an Amazon warehouse for a while and nearly the entire workforce was Black including most of the supervisors.

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