What exactly is wrong with abortion? Must we preserve every single life, no matter how dysgenic?

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    • #164357
      Anonymous
      Guest

      What exactly is wrong with abortion? Must we preserve every single life, no matter how dysgenic? Sounds like christcuck mope and cope to me.

    • #164358
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Is murder. Babby is alive before it is even formed.
      Dysgenic life gets filtered by mate selection.

      • #164362
        Al-Dirk
        Guest

        >What exactly is wrong with abortion?
        It’s murder, and murder is immoral.

        And is murder wrong, or is that more christcuck cope? After all, the tradwoke af Spartans would throw their children off a cliff if they even so much as suspected weakness, and the Romans killed 1/10th of their army for similar reasons.

        • #164364
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Spartans would throw their children off a cliff if they even so much as suspected weakness
          Isn’t this a myth, or if it did happen, only sparingly hundreds of years after Sparta’s height?

          • #164365
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Infanticide wasnt uncommon, but it wasnt incredibly common either. Romulus and Remus were both victims of attempted infanticide. Many infants that were unwanted would be left to die, and we see that even today in countries in Africa as well as in India. If an infant was born hideously deformed, they would also potentially be left to die to the elements, or be outright murdered (smothering if I remember correctly).

            Now the poster you’re replying to is a chinless scrotebrain who thinks that posing the question "Is murder wrong or is that a social construct too?" makes him smart. I wouldnt worry about it much.

            • #164520
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Romulus and Remus were both victims of attempted infanticide
              Why are you citing mythology to prove actual history?

          • #164591
            Anonymous
            Guest

            IIRC they checked the place where this supposedly happened and only found the bones of adults

        • #164373
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >And is murder wrong
          By definition, yes it is.
          >and the Romans killed 1/10th of their army for similar reasons.
          Capital punishment is not murder.

          • #164375
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >you can’t kill people but the heckin staterino can
            Absolute state.

            • #164378
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Decimations were incredibly rare and almost always looked down on. You wont find a historian, contemporary or otherwise, that’ll look at the few times a General declared even a Century be decimated positively. Stop being scrotebrained. If you have such little value for life, have a nice day and save us this drivel.

        • #164395
          Anonymous
          Guest

          The guy you kill is not the victim of the murder, but the surrounding people are.
          In the case of abortion, people incstinctually recognize an unborn child as alive and grieve miscarriages. By the time you know you’re pregnant, you want to stop smoking and drinking and doing other things that can damage the developing child. So going to the clinic to get an abortion incstinctually feels like infanticide (because it is).

        • #164594
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >And is murder wrong
          Yes

          • #164597
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Murder is wrong because it is by definition an unjustified killing. Purging society of weak children is perfectly justified.

      • #164457
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Self-defense is not murder. Parasite being alive does not grant it the right to harm the host.

      • #164481
        Anonymous
        Guest
      • #164495
        Anonymous
        Guest

        How is babby unformed? How girl get not pregnant?

        […]

        It’s an emotional thing for most anti abortionists. They’ve been shown a mess of gore porn propaganda and now they just knee jerk default to ‘muh baby murder’ when it’s brought up. What’s funny about this behavior is the disconnect that transpires between a fetus and an actual baby. Once the kid gets squirted out, they cease to care about them. You also see them treating parenthood as a punishment for having sex.

        • #164499
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Uh…. it’s true, why are they wrong ?
          Parenthood is the parent’s responsability which usually follows an act of reproduction.
          Sex is, before all, reproduction.
          Protected sex is simply trying to cheat reproduction by getting the rewards without the consquences.

          When you fail to cheat, you face the consequences.

          • #164509
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Punishment. Why use ‘consequences’ when you’re using parenthood as a punishment? See, this is where the anti abortion clique gets bonked up. It seeks to use the birth of a child as a way to harm/punish people for normal behavior. This shit is how you get Casey Anthony.

            Not enough unless it results in death penalty, especially since the boss is most definitly less innocent that a fetus

            No. It is about remedying the situation. The fetus in the case of what that anon said is causing the distress. Removing it is the solution.

            • #164511
              Anonymous
              Guest

              No, those are the consequences of their actions. Offsprings are the consquences of reproduction.
              Contraceptives, protected sex, are not infaillible and by taking part in it, they should’ve been aware of the possible consequences of doing so. They can only blame themselves, not the unborn.

              The punishment comes when they willingly go against their responsabilities.
              Say… seek to kill their unborn child.
              Said responsabilities are variable depending on the context and the Government should provide a mean to ease parenting duties for those who are unfit for it due to issues or those who are straight up dangerous to the children.

              • #164512
                Anonymous
                Guest

                The same people who try to inflict unwanted parenthood on folks as a punishment are the same people who oppose government support of children. How does the punishment come when someone ‘willingly’ goes against their responsibilities? They’re trying to do the responsible thing and not produce a child they do not want/cannot take care of.

                • #164515
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  > The same people who try to inflict unwanted parenthood on folks as a punishment are the same people who oppose government support of children
                  Source your claim

                  > Howdoes the punishment come when someone ‘willingly’ goes against their responsibilities?
                  We review the consequences of the wrongdo and judge accordingly.

                  > They’re trying to do the responsible thing and not produce a child they do not want/cannot take care of.
                  Sex is like gambling, they’ve lost(in their view) now they will have to take responsability. You don’t deal with the consequences of losing when you do not play. When you play, you have to be aware of the fact that you can lose.
                  Bad players may fuck themselves for we have little care about their nonsensical complaints.

                  If they truly cared about these things, they would’ve have played.
                  Yet, there is physical proof they did in the form of a human life within the mother.

                  • #164517
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    > they would’ve have played.
                    They wouldn’t have*

                  • #164531
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    So you view being a parent as punishment for sex? Including the risk of injury and death during childbirth? Hey. At least you’re honest about being puritanical over it I suppose. Though you may not be in the USA. Here the pro birth party is the ‘let‘em starve’ party.

                    A baby is not her body. You can literally verify this by DNA tests.

                    That’s just an argument in favor of letting her evict a trespasser.

                    • #164533
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >That’s just an argument in favor of letting her evict a trespasser.
                      Very much so. And like in all trespasser evictions, deaths are not allowed.

                      • #164534
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        If the trespasser threatens the property owners life it is allowed to kill them.

                      • #164535
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Lmao where do you live? Zimbabwe? Bangladesh? America? Civillized countries manage to leave death and life decisions for death and life type situations.

                      • #164537
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        America. Where we can kill a home invader if we feel we need to. 😉

                      • #164538
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        That was the joke. Move to a country not infested by resentful minorities and you might learn a thing or two.

                        Anyway, the sleight of hand from eviction to intrusion was funny, but you don’t evict people by murder. Sorry.

                      • #164540
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        You do if they pose a threat to you and won’t leave on their own. That’s why sheriffs handle some evictions. Because they WILL kill you if you pose a threat. Also where ever you live sounds like shit if I can’t defend myself.

                      • #164541
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Even Catholic-woke af no-compromise anti-abortional shitholes like Poland allow you to abort a baby if the mother’s life is threatened (or if it were a case of rape etc.). That’s not what we are discussing. If your point is that we should be able to abort pregnancies for the mother’s survival, you’re in agreement with 99.9% of pro-lifers and we can move on.

                      • #164543
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        It’s always a risk. Hence the risk is optional for the mother. Even if things appear healthy otherwise there is always danger.

                      • #164544
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >It’s always a risk.
                        Sure. Just like evictions. Which don’t warrant a killing.
                        You didn’t get there by marginal cases of life-threatening pregnancies… and you sure as hell won’t get there by marginal chances of a common pregnancy threatening life lol

                      • #164547
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Hey. That’s why the sheriff does evictions. To make sure the property owner is safe. Removal is required. That’s assuming you think a wad of cells is a person, which the pro-birthers seem to.

                      • #164549
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Removal is required.
                        Sure. Doesn’t warrant killing.

                        >assuming you think a wad of cells is a person
                        >[ said a large wad of cells against smaller wad of cells in hope to save lives by taking lives ]

                      • #164552
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >doesn’t warrant killing
                        Source?

                      • #164546
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        > It can be a risk to life.
                        > We should kill life just in case.
                        Every. Damn. Time.

                    • #164601
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      There is plenty of medical assistance and such risks were also couted amongst the consequences of a failed attempt to have sex without reproducing.

                      If there is too much issues then it cannot be helped tho it wouldn’t be a choice.

            • #164576
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >No. It is about remedying the situation. The fetus in the case of what that anon said is causing the distress. Removing it is the solution.

              The new bf of my ex-gf is causing me distress
              I should be allowed to remedy the situation by killing him
              He’s less innocent than a fetus so that should be fine

              • #164578
                Anonymous
                Guest

                wrong. the bf is a functioning part of society and enjoys the trust mechanisms that we need for society to function, like not randomly killing each other on the street. A fetus does not

                also from a moral perspective, if that is more your thing, the bf is aware it is alive and by killing him he loses something. The fetus again does not

                • #164585
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >wrong. the bf is a functioning part of society and enjoys the trust mechanisms that we need for society to function, like not randomly killing each other on the street. A fetus does not

                  A newborn isn’t either
                  Next time I’m annoyed at a newborn crying I know what to do

            • #164630
              Anonymous
              Guest

              enabling abortion or any other contraceptives is how you get unfazed filthy sluts ruining our civilization

              • #164666
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >christcopes telling me how great their civilization could be if only it weren’t for garden gnomes and blacks and spics and slutty women
                oh I am LAFFEN

                • #164669
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  unironically yes, Christchads are right as always. should have thought before you cut your genital off scrote.

                  Luv me penis
                  Luv knockin up slags
                  Luv abortions
                  Simple as

                  >Luv me AIDs
                  we know scrote.

                  • #164670
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    I’m not a scrote or a chud I’m just a hedonist
                    What name will you call me next? Cope eternally

                    • #164671
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      how does that disprove my post subhuman. Enjoy your aids scrotechud.

                • #164672
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Christianity has lasted over 2000 years, while communism can’t last more than 100 years and atheists don’t breed.

                  • #164673
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >Christianity lasted 2000 years
                    >It’s being ruined NOW by slutty women
                    >Everything was totally fine before women were invented in the 21st century

                    how does that disprove my post subhuman. Enjoy your aids scrotechud.

                    Cope sneethe dilate etc

                    • #164674
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >It’s being ruined NOW by slutty women
                      no one said this but slutty woman should be disciplined scrote.
                      >Cope sneethe dilate etc
                      that’s what you do subhuman. Keep worshipping woman and white knight them you absolute atheistcuck

                      • #164675
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I know the cognitive dissonance in your brain is getting louder but please try to think rationally. Pandora’s box was opened during the sexual revolution and can never be closed again. I know your ideology is dying but lashing out won’t save it. Better to just accept the future rather than try to change the past… though I will admit that christcucks are phenomenally good at rewriting history and then convincing themselves it’s true

                      • #164676
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >I know your ideology is dying
                        it’s not keep coping atheistchud.
                        I also love how you ignored my entire post and made absolutely irrelevant post. I accept your surrender subhuman.
                        Also your kind should not be calling anyone cuck. you are absolute definition of this word. You champion women rights and their freedom of sex like a good cuck boy. Keep dilating cuck. your kind does not reproduce kek.

                      • #164677
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Just like this post, there’s nothing to even respond to. Just childish name calling. Also am I a scrote, a chud, or a cuck? They’re usually mutually exclusive

                      • #164678
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >They’re usually mutually exclusive
                        no they are not, why would they be? But cuck you definitely are as many modern atheist are.

                      • #164679
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I’m Arabic

                      • #164680
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        and? cucks can be anywhere

                      • #164681
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        When Christianity is finally destroyed in the west, we will replace it. Praying for your downfall.

                      • #164683
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        keep trying. Muzdogs are getting pretty pozzed these days.

                      • #164684
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        The difference is that, unlike you, we can utterly subjugate our women

                        Are you an oil sheikh?

                        Wouldn’t you like to know westoid

                      • #164685
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        but you were just telling me that you loved whoring woman? You were all about sexual liberation. So you were false flagging cuck.

                      • #164687
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Just accelerating your decline. I’ve entered my true form now. Been raping timid Arab women since before you were born boy

                      • #164688
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        ok thanks for revealing true nature of these atheist posting cucks.

                      • #164689
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Yeah almost all athiest false flaggers are actually Mvslim Bvlls

                      • #164690
                        Anonymous
                        Guest
                      • #164693
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Mvslim Bvlls
                        Muzcucks more like and their atheischud golems

                      • #164686
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I’m from the Balkans.

                      • #164682
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Are you an oil sheikh?

                • #164694
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  So much for loving your neighbor, amirite?

                  • #164695
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    they are not my neighbors atheistcuck

        • #164662
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >you can’t oppose baby murder while also not supporting a giant welfare state apparatus to take care of every unwanted children
          genuinely scrotebrained and baseless argument I don’t understand how people unironically still make it as if it is in anyway clever

      • #164503
        redditor
        Guest

        >Dysgenic life gets filtered by mate selection.
        Not true.

      • #164625
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >women somely in charge of human genetic selection
        Horrifying timeline

    • #164359
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >What exactly is wrong with abortion?
      It’s murder, and murder is immoral.

      • #164604
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >It’s murder
        is unplugging someone who will never come out of a coma murder?

        • #164605
          Anonymous
          Guest

          The unborn will tho, they’re in the process to.

          It be like having the capacity og reconstructing the brain of a brain dead person yet still deciding to kill them.

          • #164606
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >in the process to
            the possibility for consciences to emerge in the future is not good enough to call it life in the same way a fully awake human is. At that point not having children is tantamount to murder because you are depriving the possibility of future life. The process may be far apart but their essentially arbitrary states of being. Since their is no being in either states.

            >having the capacity og reconstructing the brain of a brain dead person yet still deciding to kill them

            But a comatose person doesn’t go into it wanting to die. A uborn fetus has no idea of itself doesn’t. This is why killing people who are asleep is immoral.

        • #164607
          Anonymous
          Guest

          It could be. If their wishes are known and they want to be taken off life support, then no it wouldn’t be murder.

          • #164608
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Why should the wished of a brain dead person matter? Should we prosecute people for murder that unplug it against thier will? I fail to see how murder in killing a non comatose person is the same as unplugging a comatose one.

            • #164618
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Why should the wished of a brain dead person matter?
              People in comas are not necessarily brain dead. I’m not sure what you’re asking here, do you think a person’s last will is a meaningless document because they’re dead when it’s executed?
              >Should we prosecute people for murder that unplug it against thier will?
              Yes
              >I fail to see how murder in killing a non comatose person is the same as unplugging a comatose one.
              Because it’s an unjustified taking of a human life.

    • #164360
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It’s not about saving life, it’s about not directly and intentionally killing any innocent human.

      • #164417
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >It’s ok to kill animals, man’s dominion and all that
        >NOOOOOOOO NOT THE CHILDERINOES!

        • #164439
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Yes. We should treat some classes of entities in the world differently from others. What’s your point?

          • #164459
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Maybe, just maybe, we don’t treat some classes of entities (how would you even distinguish that?) in the world from others.

            • #164464
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Thats insane.
              You can’t treat a rock in the same way you would treat a vegatable, or an insect, or an animal, or a human.
              You wouldn’t be able to function like that.
              You have to make deliniations.
              Whether its virtue of being a lifeform, being a sentient lifeform, having a capacity to feel pain, or having humanity.

              • #164466
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >having humanity
                And humanity is?

                • #164467
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Humanity is something very vaguely defined, unfortunately.
                  Humans are very clearly different from animals in the way they function, but there is no real hard or fast thing we can measure. Same thing with sentience if you believe that all sentient creatures should be treated the same. What is sentience? Is the sentience of a pig the same as the sentience of an ant? Should we be always watching where we step? Do clams and jellyfish and other animal like creatures without a nervous system deserve the same moral consideration as well? Plants react to their environment, do they have some sort of primitive sentience?

                  The thing is, moralality involves all sorts of vague definitions. Saying that humans are a seperate moral class from animals is just as arbitrary as saying that sentient animals are a seperate moral class from insects or plants.

            • #164565
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Maybe, just maybe
              Back to Soiddit you dumb scrote

            • #164595
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Even vegans are ok with killing by plants and bacteria

          • #164505
            Anonymous
            Guest

            A pig is more intelligent than a fetus at any stage of development

        • #164502
          Anonymous
          Guest

          we eat the animals you dumb scrote

          • #164508
            Anonymous
            Guest

            And they eat the babies

            • #164513
              Anonymous
              Guest

              looks like it’s carrying it

        • #164519
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Alright, what should lions do?

        • #164631
          Anonymous
          Guest

          smelly dumb vegan scum

      • #164638
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >It’s not about saving life, it’s about not directly and intentionally killing any innocent human.
        If this was true God would not permit 20% of pregnancies to end in a miscarriage

        • #164640
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Humans die without being murdered by other humans
          >So this mean we can murder other humans

          The pro death arguments are all terrible lol, how do those people convince others that they are the good ones?

          • #164642
            Anonymous
            Guest

            you obviously didnt listen. Humans can give a shit about this life. Thats not surprising. Whats really surprising is that God could give a shit less about our life here. He just wants his name spread to every corner of the globe but he wants us to do it. Point in fact is that abortion isnt really that bad if God himself doesn’t give a shit about BILLIONS of babies dying.

            • #164644
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >Point in fact is that abortion isnt really that bad if God himself doesn’t give a shit about BILLIONS of babies dying.
              You’re using the same argument man. “if humans die without someone murdering them then it is okay if we murder them”. What a dumb argument go fuck yourself.

              • #164645
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Yes they get sent to heaven faster. Express ticket out of Mordor

        • #164641
          Anonymous
          Guest

          20% of babies being stillborn literally has nothing to do with abortion.

    • #164361
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Do you honestly expect an honest discussion about abortion of all thing in the christcuck board?

      • #164498
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >his
        >Christcuck
        lol

        Seriously though–what color is the baby?

    • #164363
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Sounds like christcuck mope and cope to me.
      99% of arguments you’ll get actually are. Then you have scrotebrains embarrassing themselves thinking they’re smug by suggesting that people just don’t have casual sex.

      The stormscrotes calling abortion a ploy to genocide whites have a more respectable view than the braindead Cuckservatives that try to socially engineer anti-natalist behavior into society.

      • #164592
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >abortion a ploy to genocide whites
        But blacks abort their children way more than whites do

    • #164366
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >what exactly is wrong with abortion? lets just kill babies because some slut had unprotected sex and wanted to

      • #164370
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Some slut accidently gave birth to a baby – let’s force her to raise the child anyway. What could go wrong?

        • #164372
          Anonymous
          Guest

          She could always adopt.

          • #164374
            Anonymous
            Guest

            And what are the chance of the kid getting adopted?

          • #164376
            Anonymous
            Guest

            You would rather that she foist the responsibility onto someone else? Especially when you would turn around call that person a cuckold shortly after?

        • #164377
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Yeah, it’s called consequences and responsibilities of your actions.

          • #164380
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >accepts conqsequence of being pregnant with a child they can’t support
            >takes responsibility by aborting life doomed to mediocrity
            I see no issue here.

            • #164384
              Anonymous
              Guest

              If you see no issue with that, you’re bonked in the head.

              • #164390
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Shut the fuck up scrote. You’ll turn right around and wonder why you have so many mouths to feed and NEETs on the street. Christcucks love to gamble on moralist bullshit and then pass the buck onto society itself when it backfires.

                • #164391
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Sure scrotebrain, go ahead in your streets and murder every poor person you see then. You’re actually beyond freaking stupid, lmfao.

                  • #164392
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    This is what strawmanning means, lads.

                    • #164393
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      No, your logic is just utterly scrotebrained. Cope harder about it, loser.

                      • #164398
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Your stupidity should be a disability.
                        You should get neetbux from your gov.

                      • #164399
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Go be a scrote somewhere else, scrotebrain. You probably get the disabilitybux from the gov.

                  • #164400
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >he can’t address my point
                    >goes off on a tangent about MURDER BAD
                    So this is Christscrote enlightenment?

              • #164504
                redditor
                Guest

                not an argument

          • #164383
            Anonymous
            Guest

            And do you know what the consequences will be? A child will grow up without love or care. A child who will, according to the African proverb, burn the village so that he may feel its warmth.

            • #164386
              Anonymous
              Guest

              So if a child doesn’t get love and care we should go and murder him?

              • #164388
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Yes, basically. Indeed, since the child is not loved in the first place, no one will miss him anyway.

                • #164401
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >It’s okay to kill people with no frens
                  Tell me who hurt you, fren.

              • #164465
                Anonymous
                Guest

                not getting love and care would most likely result in a violent criminal anyways

          • #164387
            Anonymous
            Guest

            this would sound like a good idea if you believed all people were equally capable of child rearing.

          • #164402
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Sure, this is why we got schizos like this girl who were abused because their mother would abandon them and in turn they would turn into a menace to society, so instead of ruining just one life you ruined 10

            • #164407
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >they would turn into a menace for society
              How exactly? And why would all of them get abandoned?

              • #164468
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Sorry forgot to post the picture of this girl,
                Well they become criminals like that girl or mentally unstable people which at the end of the day is a burden for someone else, it’s like the crackhead that tries to break into your house or rob you on the streets, many of that people had a rough childhood thanks to shitty parents, there will always be bad people, but bad parenting makes it worse, therefore aborting is a valid option if your kids will go through hell because you don’t have any money or even knowledge to raise a kid

                • #164469
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Extract healthy teeth because they have a chance to get caries
                  >Lop off your arm because it might get gangrenous someday.
                  Clearly the compassionate thing is not letting these mothers kill their own children to prevent a (potential) life of crime. The compassionate thing to do is reaching out to them and give then support, much like the other solution of improving bad neighborhoods.
                  Raising a child is a group activity.

                  • #164487
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Clearly someone who is born in extreme poverty/disfunctional homes is going to suffer way more verbal, physical and sexual abuse. Unfortunately the world is not compassionate, people is not going to help children that are not related to them, for most people self preservation is paramount and there’s a plenty of people that’s bonked in the head and will abuse these children that’s not being supervised because their parents or single parent is working all day. Either they become criminals or people who manage to function in society they are scarred for life.

          • #164461
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Responsibility for what? Nobody willingly chooses to make a mistake.

            • #164629
              Anonymous
              Guest

              scrotebrain

            • #164635
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Oh sorry oops I killed you. Good thing it was just a "mistake" so no biggie, no need to punish me.

              • #164637
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >He must be punished! It will not undo the crime, nor will he even learn why what he did was bad. We’re still going to punish him because…responsibilities, okay?!?!

          • #164593
            Anonymous
            Guest

            You’re right. Save the child, kill the mother.

      • #164371
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Human beings are careless and irresponsible. Are you going to lower yourself to communist bunkerchud cope about "muh human nature no real"?

      • #164403
        Anonymous
        Guest

        https://i.imgur.com/lMJluM9.gif

        >lets just kill babies because some slut had unprotected sex and wanted to

    • #164367
      Anonymous
      Guest

      There’s nothing wrong with abortion.
      It is in nobody’s power to force women to have children.
      Women will grow to hate the children, they will never have a a nice loving mother, they will have a shit life.
      I would rather get aborted.

      • #164369
        Anonymous
        Guest

        It’s kinda funny that if you really believed that you would just have a nice day, right now.

      • #164381
        Anonymous
        Guest

        There’s absolutely something wrong, especially if the children is white.

        • #164382
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Dead white babies is a good thing.

        • #164405
          Anonymous
          Guest

          most abortions are black babies. I also bet you think niggos are going to outbreed whites.

          • #164409
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Ask the Soviet Union how many black babies they aborted.

            • #164411
              Anonymous
              Guest

              What do you expect me to say to this?

      • #164491
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >It is in nobody’s power to force women to have children.
        And yet with the current law you can force a man to have children
        If the man wants his kid to die but the woman wants to keep it, the man has no say and is forced to pay alimony

        >Women will grow to hate the children, they will never have a a nice loving mother, they will have a shit life.
        Dumb assumption
        And anyway, shall I be allowed to kill anyone I think is having a shit life?
        Let’s just genocide black Africa lmao, they’re having a shit life anyway

    • #164368
      Anonymous
      Guest
    • #164379
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Abortion violates the NAP.

      • #164385
        Anonymous
        Guest

        The fetus is the one trespassing the mother’s private property

        • #164389
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Not really no, because the fetus was there due to the mother’s actions, and thus she should just wait for the pregnancy contract to end instead of killing the intruder.

          • #164394
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Why are we talking about cause and effect? The fetus is invading the mother’s private property, full stop.

            • #164397
              Anonymous
              Guest

              The fetus is gonna be there for a specific amount of time, it would be correct to wait instead of using violence. It is completely unnecessary, especially because the mother basically signed a contract taking the risks for it to happen.

    • #164396
      Anonymous
      Guest

      In cases where the child is going to be born with significant disabilities, the mother will die from giving birth, or the basic needs of the family will suffer greatly following the birth (starvation, crippling poverty, etc.), abortion should be permitted and encouraged. But the culling of healthy babies should not be promoted, or even pardoned, in a virtuous society. When mothers would rather kill their child than inconvenience themselves is when a people have been morally corrupted.

      As it pertains to the United States, it depends on the demographics of the state. In West Virginia, Kentucky, New England, and large parts of the Northwest, banning abortion would probably be a good thing. In Texas? A disaster.

      • #164404
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This tbh, a sane person.
        /thread

      • #164536
        Anonymous
        Guest

        The rest of your post is good but
        >banning abortion in west Virginia would be good
        Is really freaking wrong. Tons of illegitimate kids in the boonies of that state

    • #164406
      Anonymous
      Guest

      People are gonna have sex and unplanned pregnancies will follow. A categoric ban on abortion will lead to a lot of unwanted children in families that are ill prepared to take care of them, which is basically a recipe for increased crime and whatever social and economic costs follow that.

    • #164408
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://i.imgur.com/KL1mMz3.gif

      >YOU WILL HAVE THE CHILDREN
      >YOU WILL CARE FOR HIM EVEN THOUGH YOU HATE HIM
      >YOU WILL STOP HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX
      >YOU WILL WORK 3 JOBS TO SEND HIM TO SCHOOL AND SUPPORT YOURSELF BEING A SINGLE MOTHER
      >YOU WILL DO IT AND YOU’LL BE HAPPY

      • #164410
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Non ironically, yes. Cope?

        • #164413
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Mind your own life, scrote.
          Stay the fuck out of mine.
          You should be shot in the face, for telling me what to do and what to think.

          • #164414
            Anonymous
            Guest

            What’s with butthurt, stupid scrote? Your ass is literally combusting into flames for not being allowed to kill babies, lmfao.

            • #164416
              Anonymous
              Guest
              • #164418
                Anonymous
                Guest

                It’s not your business tho you braindead chimp, it’s literally another person who you want to kill.

                • #164421
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  It’s my child and I can kill the fucker if I want to.
                  You don’t raise him, you don’t send him money, you don’t give him love.
                  You don’t give a single fuck about his existence.
                  So fuck off and have a nice day.

                  • #164424
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    You’re completely right actually, you can kill your child if you want to. You’ll just spend the rest of your life in prison for it.

                • #164422
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Not person. Future criminal.

                  • #164425
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Why? What’s the correlation?

                    • #164426
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Parental neglect and crime are positively correlated. I’m not sure why you are even feigning ignorance.

                      • #164428
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Do you seriously think all of them will be neglected and become criminals? People also don’t change their minds on things? You’re the ignorant here, your point is scrotebrained.

                      • #164433
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Do you seriously think all of them will be neglected and become criminals?
                        When we are talking about a theoretical parent who would’ve aborted if she had the chance, you would be a fool to disregard the very likely possibility.
                        >People also don’t change their minds on things
                        Of course people change their minds. They are free to conceive another child when they change their minds. This addresses the first point, in a sense, since we don’t really lose anything when we abort. Better safe than sorry.

                      • #164436
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        So due to a slightly higher chance of someone being a criminal years after they are born, we should simply murder him as a baby? Should we also kill the children of people who live in bad neighborhoods because they have an even bigger chance of becoming criminals?

                        What do you think of the saying "The ends don’t justify the means"?

                      • #164438
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Yes, the unprivileged don’t deserve to live.

                      • #164442
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >So due to a slightly higher chance of someone being a criminal years after they are born, we should simply murder him as a baby?
                        Due to the *significantly* higher chance, yes.
                        >Should we also kill the children of people who live in bad neighborhoods because they have an even bigger chance of becoming criminals?
                        Or we could improve the living conditions of those neighborhoods. Radical, I know.
                        >What do you think of the saying "The ends don’t justify the means"?
                        I think that quote is incoherent; if a bad action results in a good consequence, then how is it a bad action?

                      • #164444
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Would you happen to have evidence for your claim that it’s a significant higher chance?

                      • #164456
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        You’re fine with the idea of a slightly higher chance, but suddenly require evidence of a significantly higher chance?

                      • #164447
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        and if improving the conditions would be impractical you’d murder them? wtf

                      • #164454
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Your moral compass has some issues mAh dud

                        Perhaps you enjoy the idea of children in destitute conditions, but I am more compassionate than that. If a person is not living the good life, why live at all?

                      • #164482
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Anon, would it be fine if I come to your home and euthanize (You) ? Your life is miserable so you could call it mercy.

                      • #164450
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Your moral compass has some issues mAh dud

                      • #164441
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        i don’t think it’s very likely, most people who considered abortion still would care for their offspring and them commiting crimes is an even lower chance tbh

              • #164420
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >mind your own business!
                >also stop having casual sex on a societal level!
                Kek.

          • #164415
            Anonymous
            Guest

            No that’s not your life, it’s another person’s life. Are you stupid?

      • #164412
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >>YOU WILL STOP HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX

      • #164419
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I don’t see an issue lmao that’s how it’s always been

      • #164524
        Anonymous
        Guest

        If you disagree with this, you are mentally ill. Unironically.

      • #164615
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Adoption exists dumbass

        • #164623
          Anonymous
          Guest

          How many kids have you adopted?

          • #164624
            Anonymous
            Guest

            I have quite a few family members who adopted children actually

    • #164423
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I’m not against you (so long as you stay in your lane), but I still find it funny how you started this to cull a minority population, then let it catch on in your own communities.

    • #164427
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Lots of things, as we could see in this
      thread. The ends don’t justify the means.

    • #164429
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Nothing is wrong with abortion as long as undesirables such as scrotes keep aborting en masse. It should be mandatory for some even.

      • #164431
        Anonymous
        Guest

        we should just kill all scrotes right away and then ban abortion after that

    • #164432
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >better to give birth to some deformed bonked up kid that’s going to suffer just to die in a couple of years than to just spare them the suffering
      I really don’t understand it

      • #164493
        Anonymous
        Guest

        So you live in a country where most abortions are due to defective fetus?
        Can to name it, cause in all the countries with abortions I know, over 90% of abortions are just because the woman doesn’t want a kid right now

    • #164445
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Nobody seems to mention it but it’s a form of self-defense.

      • #164449
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Watch out, the baby has a knife?

        • #164458
          Anonymous
          Guest

          The fetus causes physical illness as well as mental harm to the host. The host has the right to put a stop to the pain inflicted by removing the offending fetus that causes hurt.

          • #164492
            Anonymous
            Guest

            My boss causes mental harm to me
            Will you be my lawyer when I claim "self-defense" at the murder trial?

            • #164496
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Actually you can sue your boss over that.

              • #164500
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Not enough unless it results in death penalty, especially since the boss is most definitly less innocent that a fetus

              • #164634
                Anonymous
                Guest

                but can you kill him? don’t move the goalposts scrote

    • #164455
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Abortionists are in absolute suicide watch after seeing

      […]

      this thread. How can anyone support that shit, lmao.

    • #164460
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >every single life
      The vast majority of people against it are okay with exceptions.
      The problem with abortion is that most of the reasons in favor of it are scrotebrained.
      >it’s not real people
      Newborn aren’t real people either, just noisy shit pumps. And yet you wouldn’t kill one.
      >muh emancipation
      Says the woman who wants to have more time to work or indulge in empty leisures. In activities that are far more demanding and less rewarding than parenting.
      >muh dysgenics
      Says the nations who need to import third worlders to not see its demographics implode.
      And worst part of it is that those arguments are hypocrisy. We abort when the alternative is inconvenient, that’s all.
      Not saying I’m against it, you can’t expect people to be reasonable when it comes to sex, but it’s nothing more than a necessary evil, very necessary and very evil.

      • #164463
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >And yet you wouldn’t kill one.
        Why not? The Spartans did. They killed many, even.

        • #164572
          Anonymous
          Guest

          And how did Sparta end up by the way?

      • #164484
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >yet you wouldn’t kill one
        You underestimate me. Infanticide is not murder.
        >empty leisures
        Are you implying that your leisures aren’t? I’m sorry you were raised around exclusively boring christcope women

      • #164507
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >And yet you wouldn’t kill one.
        I would.

    • #164462
      Anonymous
      Guest

      If a woman has the right to abort the baby, since it’s her body her choice, then the man has the right to leave and not be involved at all if she decides to keep the baby. Therefore no child support, since it’s his money, his choice.

      I feel like everyone can agree with this.^
      Fair for both sides.

      • #164526
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This
        /thread

        • #164529
          Anonymous
          Guest

          A baby is not her body. You can literally verify this by DNA tests.

    • #164470
      Anonymous
      Guest

      My problem with abortion debates is that they always include women who’ve aborted or consider aborting, and in case of direct vote, explicitly involve them
      It’s like inviting the murderer not only to be his own jury but his own judge too, it’s surreal.
      How can a society claim to be impartial when those decision process directly involve the actors in a position of strength?

    • #164472
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0kGWg7SEio

      God told you what is wrong with child sacrifice, not just Christ. Along with sodomy. They just want to live in sexual lifestyle. What Christ did was promise to recorrect everyone’s bodies in the resurrection, and give people a perfect life in Heaven.

      • #164485
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >recorrect everyone’s bodies
        so trannies get flipped after resurrection? You should try selling that to them, they might convert

    • #164477
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It’s not the woman’s job to be killing her children.

      • #164488
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Who do you think runs an abortion clinic lol?

        • #164514
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Who do you think runs an abortion clinic lol?
          Elon, where are you going with this…

    • #164478
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://i.imgur.com/p72YUnz.gif

      It’s funny.

      If Republicans were pro-choice, they would ensure that they got more votes in the future since most abortions are for Democratic voters in blue states, but their Christcuck obstinacy will result in more Dems being born and ensuring pro-choice policies get pushed anyway.

      • #164480
        Anonymous
        Guest

        TOP kek

      • #164532
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Oh fuck.

    • #164479
      Anonymous
      Guest

      > prolife = christcuck
      I’m tired of this shit
      Abrahasharts ruin whatever they get hold of.

    • #164486
      Jesus
      Guest

      government hates when you make decisions, government hates when you are free

    • #164489
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >What exactly is wrong with abortion?
      The utter hypocrisy of it in a society that made human life sacred

      >Must we preserve every single life, no matter how dysgenic?
      Every human life, yes
      Come back to me when all violent criminals and down syndrom subhumans are put to death, and now you may have a point
      Not to mention that 90% of aborted fetus are perfectly healthy, don’t act like it’s only used on defective ones

    • #164490
      Anonymous
      Guest

      ending a life to prevent suffering is a cowards way out. but worse than just a coward, this is a coward too cowardly to end his own life, so he asuages his cowardice by killing the unborn to pervent their suffering.

      Abortion is the opium of a weak coward.
      too weak to improve his world, too cowardly to end himself.
      He pretends he is saving a life of suffering without ever having to see the person who’s potential he is cutting short.

      Suffering is the truth of the world, but to give up is denying yourself the fleeting joy a life lived well can visit upon you from time to time.

      Stealing that chance at joy from the unborn is evil, and those who would pretend it is a virtuous act are vile.

      In b4 >christcuck
      I am an atheist and all religion looks like worshipping harry potter to me.

      • #164497
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Hello fellow pro life atheist.
        Anymore of us in this thread ?

    • #164506
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The kind of people who get abortions are exactly the kind of people I don’t want raising kids, so I support it wholeheartedly.

    • #164510
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Well the way I see it, weather you allow abortion or not, the people who want babies will make them and those who wont, wont.
      Those who abort take themselves out of the gene pool and their traits. One of their traits being less likely inclined to continue his bloodline.

    • #164516
      Anonymous
      Guest

      What exactly is wrong with murder? Must we preserve every single life, no matter how dysgenic? Sounds like christcuck mope and cope to me.

      • #164518
        Anonymous
        Guest

        murder is violence and therefore immoral. who are you to decide who is dysgenic, anyway?

        • #164521
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >murder is violence and therefore immoral
          No? Violence is immoral? Okay anon, better start watching teletubbies because no more violent TV for you, you little Puritan. Hopefully you don’t support self-defense or the military evil, because stopping you from being violently murdered with violence would be immoral too.
          >Who am I to decide who is dysgenic
          A regular person same as anyone else. I could ask the same of the OP who made this thread.
          I mean really?

          • #164523
            Anonymous
            Guest

            > a regular person
            > My god he is redhaired, kill it !

          • #164525
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >better start watching teletubbies because no more violent TV for you, you little Puritan
            i never said it’s wrong to watch a movie with violence in it, you contrarian scrote.

            >A regular person same as anyone else. I could ask the same of the OP who made this thread.
            I mean really?

            again, i really must applaud you for such a thoughtful and intelligent response. nobody has any business telling another person what to do with their child. please freaking have a nice day pseud

    • #164522
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >It’s murder
      Proofs?

    • #164527
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >What exactly is wrong with abortion?
      It violates a universal value (life) for a derivative value (comfortable life). It’s inconsistent.

      Are you going to ask me what’s wrong with being inconsistent?

    • #164528
      Anonymous
      Guest

      A lot of people don’t get the problem with abortion. It’s more the shady way in which it was "legalized."

    • #164530
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >What exactly is wrong with murder? Must we preserve every single life, no matter how dysgenic? Sounds like christcuck mope and cope to me.

    • #164539
      Anonymous
      Guest

      That women are free to abort healthy babies and somehow suggesting that aborting defective ones is somehow wrong

    • #164545
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Kids with parents that do not want them are better off dead.

      People are defending anti-abortion law like it is some form of punishment for the irresponsible parents?

      A better solution would be to mandatorily package abortions with sterilizations, then you would save the world from another miserable family, and force people to think twice about getting knocked up, AND stop scrotebrains from murdering more than one child.

      • #164548
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Kids with parents that do not want them are better off dead.
        The absolute most of abandoned kids don’t seem to think so. Why should I trust your judgement instead?

        • #164551
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >mentally ill abandoned kids that will never fully fit in society think…
          dont care what they think lol

          • #164553
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Ok then by the same token I don’t care what you think about them. Like every abortionist argument, it’s ultimately self-refuting.

            >doesn’t warrant killing
            Source?

            The law? Lmao. Find any laws and guidelines on eviction, not a single one of them states that uncooperation alone warrants killing the human being in question.

            • #164554
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Which is why armed sheriffs do them? Naw. I’m thinking that source is your anus there buddy. They resist they get shot. Even if being homeless will kill them.

              • #164555
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >Sheriff present
                >that means we can kill people who are sitting in a room
                Source?

                • #164556
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Every law and guideline on the use of force in law enforcement. You can even leave them outside in thirty below temps to freeze to death. Unwanted fetuses violate the NAP.

                  • #164557
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Waiting for a source buddy. Show me a law allowing you to kill a person sitting in a room for not leaving.

                    • #164558
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Google ‘eviction.’ The cops come and manhandle them out if they just sit there. Even if being homeless would likely be fatal. If they resist the cops use more force.

                      • #164561
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >manhandle
                        >force
                        Show me a law allowing you to kill a person sitting in a room for not leaving.

                      • #164563
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Eviction. You can throw them out on the street in sub zero temperatures that will be fatal. Deal with it.

                      • #164566
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >You can throw a person out on a street
                        >Ergo you can kill a baby that your own actions put there
                        You tried.

                      • #164568
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        It isn’t killing a baby. It’s evicting a trespasser. I get it. You want social control and this is the path you take, but pro birthers are consistently disingenuous in their arguments. Just be honest. This is about punishing women for what you view as promiscuity. Simple as.

                      • #164571
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >This is about punishing women for what you view as promiscuity.
                        Abortion is about punishing innocent unborn human beings killing them. Simple as.

                      • #164573
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        you cant punish something that isn’t conscious and never was

                      • #164579
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Yes you can, you can murder them and stop them from developing into a person like you are now.

                        Abortion is just a consequence of the fetus trespassing.

                        The fetus only exist because of the parents’ actions, it’s not trespassing.

                        >

                        >Are unborn human beings not alive?


                        they are not conscious of it, try reading the whole post before replying

                        >innocent, fault
                        meaningless human construct. no such thing as guilt
                        >they are not conscious of it, try reading the whole post before replying
                        If you aren’t counscious you aren’t alive?

                        >meaningless human construct. no such thing as guilt
                        Go murder someone and say this to the cops lmao dumb fucker

                      • #164580
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        It’s still trespassing if an invited guest becomes unwelcome.

                      • #164584
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        An invited guest only becomes a trespasser after you tell them that you want them to leave and still they refuse to. As you obviously can’t tell an unborn (or even a newborn) child to leave where they are, they can’t be trespassers. Even so, you can’t use deadly force to make a trespasser leave lol.

                      • #164583
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        No you cant feel loss for something you never had. Actually you cant feel anything if you aren’t conscious.

                        A fetus being alive is irrelevant, otherwise you would also be arguing for veganism( oh wait plants are alive too lol)

                        cops are real, guilt is not.

                      • #164590
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >No you cant feel loss for something you never had. Actually you cant feel anything if you aren’t conscious.
                        Those humans had life and when you abort them you take the life out of them. You murder them, that’s the biggest loss a human life can have lol.

                        >Actually you cant feel anything if you aren’t conscious.
                        When consciousness begin? Can someone murder you if you are unconscious?

                        >A fetus being alive is irrelevant
                        Holy fuck, a fetus being a human being who is alive it’s one of the main point that pro life people make over the pro death ones lmao. It makes all those people like you morally bankrupt as you are in favour of murdering innocent human beings. That is why so many of the pro death ones try to say fetuses are "parasites", "a bunch of cells", "not humans or persons", they think that this will not make them murderers lmao.

                        >otherwise you would also be arguing for veganism( oh wait plants are alive too lol)
                        A human life is more valuable than other animals and plants.

                      • #164574
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Abortion is just a consequence of the fetus trespassing.

            • #164560
              Anonymous
              Guest

              of course someone that is alive doesnt want to die. that is not relevant to the argument I’m making. I’m saying some things are too pathetic to let live, like the unborn child of parents that dont want them.

              Even if you consider the "will to live" to be relevant, if you kill before it is conscious, aka before it reaches this "will to live", klling it would be permissible then according to what you say?

              • #164562
                Anonymous
                Guest
              • #164564
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >of course someone that is alive doesnt want to die.
                It is not a matter of course. Plenty people choose to die every single day.
                >I’m saying some things are too pathetic to let live
                And I’m asking why I should find this opinion valid.
                >Even if you consider the "will to live" to be relevant, if you kill before it is conscious, aka before it reaches this "will to live", klling it would be permissible then according to what you say?
                Killing is not permissible because human life is a value. My appeal to will to live was supposed to point out how most people far more involved in the situations you describe (the kids themselves) don’t seem to validate your point.

                • #164570
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Plenty people choose to die every single day
                  yes, like overwhelmingly, people who had to suffer through parental absence

                  >why I should find this opinion valid
                  Because that way we reduce the net unhappiness on the planet. A unwanted child ruins the lives of a whole family, an abortion only a virtual one.

                  >human life is a value
                  why should I find this opinion valid? What value is this? 1000 dollar? a million? show me this value please

                  • #164577
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >yes, like overwhelmingly, people who had to suffer through parental absence
                    prove me that parental absence is the main reason for suicide

                    >Because that way we reduce the net unhappiness on the planet. A unwanted child ruins the lives of a whole family, an abortion only a virtual one.
                    Murdering someone because it will make some people happy, lol. This will get you to jail.

                    >why should I find this opinion valid?
                    If human life doesn’t have a value, why don’t you have a nice day?

                    • #164581
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      I didn’t say it was the main reason

                      A fetus is by law, rightfully so, not a person, so yeah sounds like a good deal

                      Human life doesn’t inherently have value, the worth of my life is beside the point

                      • #164586
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >A fetus is by law, rightfully so, not a person, so yeah sounds like a good deal
                        Neither were black people in 1800 America
                        It’s almost like current and local law is arbitrary garbage and not some universal truth

                        >Human life doesn’t inherently have value, the worth of my life is beside the point
                        Our society treats human life as something sacred, to the point many pro-abortions persons try to deny the humanity of the human fetus (which is scrotebrained from a biological standpoint but most people are scientifically illiterate so they don’t care) in order to circumvent the obvious hypocrisy behind the very concept of abortion.

                      • #164587
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Our society treats human life as something sacred
                        no it doesnt. We go on offensive wars all the time, pull the plug on comatose people, perform death sentences and do abortions. Human life is only "sacred" when it suits society

                      • #164588
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >We go on offensive wars all the time
                        Frowned upon by pro-abortions people

                        >perform death sentences
                        Frowned upon by pro-abortions people and banned in most countries that allow abortion

                      • #164602
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        > killing poor forest animals
                        Frowned upon by Adolf Hitler

                      • #164589
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >I didn’t say it was the main reason
                        Show me then the source that states that overwhelmingly, people who had to suffer through parental absence are the ones who commit suicide.

                        >A fetus is by law, rightfully so, not a person, so yeah sounds like a good deal
                        Why isn’t a fetus a person?

                        >Human life doesn’t inherently have value, the worth of my life is beside the point
                        If human life doesn’t have a value then why do you care about the lifes of the women that murder they children? Fuck them, let the babies live. By your view it shouldn’t matter either way.

              • #164567
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >of course someone that is alive doesnt want to die
                Are unborn human beings not alive?
                >I’m saying some things are too pathetic to let live, like the unborn child of parents that dont want them.
                Those human beings are innocent you dumb fuck, it’s not their fault that their parents bonked. What is pathetic is killing those people for something that is not even their fault lol. Those who are pathetic are the people who abort and kill innocent human beings

                • #164575
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >Are unborn human beings not alive?
                  they are not conscious of it, try reading the whole post before replying

                  >innocent, fault
                  meaningless human construct. no such thing as guilt

      • #164550
        Anonymous
        Guest

        That defeats the point. Pro-birthers want to punish women for having sex. It’s about social control. They want control over people’s personal lives. This is just an avenue to that.

        • #164665
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I just want people to stop killing healthy children because of their own poor decision making.

      • #164559
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Kids with parents that do not want them are better off dead.
        Go ask people those kids that their parents didn’t want them if they wish they were dead you dumb fuck. Innocent people shouldn’t die just because you think they don’t want to live, Do you realize how scrotebrained and genocidal that thought is?

    • #164569
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Maybe abortion is dysgenic

    • #164582
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >I’m being raped by my own baby
      sounds like a plausible hentai plot

    • #164596
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The earliest stage at which a fetus can be delivered is getting younger and younger every decade. Eventually you’ll have to declare a point where you legalize the killing of a being capable of surviving outside the womb.

    • #164598
      Anonymous
      Guest

      We should take those children and turn them into super soldiers. Imagine how big an army of super human men and women we’d have by now. We’d murder everyone.

    • #164599
      Anonymous
      Guest

      why yes, I pretend to care about unborn children so I can call the libs murderers, how could you tell?

      • #164600
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Just because all of your political principles are fake and done for attention, doesn’t make it the same for everyone else bud.

    • #164603
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Would you abort baby Jesus?

    • #164609
      Anonymous
      Guest

      So many enlightened responses in this thread. It’s like all anti-abortionists are either religious fanatics or incels.

      • #164610
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Good for you, roastie. I’m sure Satan will thank you and give you a nice pat on the back for killing children.

      • #164611
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >If you don’t want to kill babies you’re either a religious fanatic or an incel
        Seriously scrote? Go back to where you came from.

        • #164612
          Anonymous
          Guest

          jk, all religious fanatics are incels.

          • #164617
            Anonymous
            Guest

            So many enlightened responses in this thread. It’s like all anti-abortionists are either religious fanatics or incels.

            >animeposter
            Not surprised lol sad life

      • #164616
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Don’t Have sex, Incel

    • #164613
      Anonymous
      Guest

      fetuses don’t cry so yeah you can kill them

      • #164614
        Anonymous
        Guest

        They actually cry inside the belly after some months

    • #164619
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Intrauterine devices exist anon

    • #164620
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Abortion is voluntary eugenics. If people are willing to kill their own kids they would probably make shitty parents who would in turn raise shitty children. Seems like a win-win scenario to me.

      • #164627
        Mrrandom
        Guest

        That’s how I see it as well. Mother knows best. If she is willing to kill her own offspring then fine.

      • #164648
        Anonymous
        Guest

        That would be true if abortion were a sterilizing procedure. However, people who get pregnant once are likely to get pregnant again. Eventually when she decides to keep it, she’s more likely to abuse it and she’s more likely to be a single mother. Because you know what we need? More gangbangers trying to break into your house. Yeah, sounds like a win-win.

    • #164621
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It is wrong because some dude wishes to determine who lives and who dies. The same cretin who cries ABORTION IS MURDER would be fine with the army murdering innocent people overseas for the same reason, and hiding behind sophistry to explain blatant hypocrisy.

      • #164647
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >The same cretin who cries ABORTION IS MURDER would be fine with the army murdering innocent people overseas
        >what is a war crime
        you don’t know how this works

      • #164655
        Anonymous
        Guest

        > wtf is fellowship
        Human beings from your nation > outsiders

        You think globally like some childish scrotebrain yet I bet you have little care about thousands of africans & such dying, you only care when it’s mediatized so you can virtue signal.
        Why aren’t you on Twitter? This seems like a place where you and your shitty mindset belong.

      • #164664
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >you cant oppose death on one context and support it in another
        you are over emotional and hypocritical

    • #164622
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Abortion is clearly wrong but that doesn’t mean it should be outlawed. The kids ITT LARPing as totalitarian eugenicists are freaking insane though

    • #164626
      Mrrandom
      Guest

      Basically Christians really dislike abortion because it’s killing babies. I don’t really care because society should not be burdened with some hoes kids. Why should society feed them and shelter them and yada yada? Just kill the thing and get I over with.

      • #164646
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Legalizing abortion emboldens whores to have children and single parenthood has been going up for a while now. Look at single motherhood in countries that restrict abortion vs countries that don’t.

    • #164628
      Anonymous
      Guest

      close your legs whore

    • #164633
      Anonymous
      Guest

      all these "pro-choice" murdering scrotes are getting awful nervous woke af on their increasingly irrational rhetoric in these threads ever since it has become clear that Roe is getting reversed, even leftoid legal scholars such as my law school professors admit it will be reversed. Tick tock murdering roe-scrotes

    • #164639
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Conservatives think white people will have more kids if they can’t get abortions. Same deal with banning contraceptives, abstinence only education. All part of the same plan, it all comes down to a ludicrous attempt at remedying their racial insecurities.

      • #164643
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Most countries that restrict and ban abortion aren’t white you dishonest fuck. People against abortion are against the murder of human beings.

    • #164649
      Anonymous
      Guest

      sage gay thread

    • #164650
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Not humanities

    • #164651
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Abortion isn’t going away its a political football used by both parties. Republicans know if they ban it they will never win another election. Democrats know if they keep it a Frontline issue they can galvanize their base.

      • #164652
        Anonymous
        Guest

        which is why its all bullshit the only scrotebrains care about it

        • #164653
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Exactly

      • #164656
        Anonymous
        Guest

        which is why its all bullshit the only scrotebrains care about it

        Exactly

        >The world is america and all of the issues humanity has only matter in an american context
        two digit iq mouthbreathers

        • #164657
          Anonymous
          Guest

          america does have a certain monopoly on western culture. probably why everyone hates them

          • #164658
            Anonymous
            Guest

            For good reasons

          • #164659
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >america does have a certain monopoly on western culture
            Oh gee, maybe that is why everyone else uses the imperial system, why it is legal to have a nazi party everywhere else and why tipping is obligatory in western countries just like in murica.

    • #164654
      Anonymous
      Guest

      sage and gay

    • #164660
      Anonymous
      Guest

      […]

      you will never go to heaven christcope

      • #164667
        Anonymous
        Guest

        and you will never rich old age atheischud

        • #164668
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Luv me penis
          Luv knockin up slags
          Luv abortions
          Simple as

    • #164663
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >foams at the mouth over the virtue of bodily atonomy
      >rabidly supports killing the helpless without consent because of another person’s impulsiveness
      and don’t start with muh rape muh deformed fetuses, it is a irrelevant argument when 99.5% of abortions are performed on HEALTHY CHILDREN NOT DERIVED FROM RAPE

    • #164691
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The Bible is pro abortion. All dead babies go to heaven per most Christian theologies. A Christian has absolutely no reason not to support abortion.

    • #164692
      Anonymous
      Guest

      People too scrotebrained to understand that you can coom outside the vagina are already dysgenic.

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