# What exactly is a number?

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• #187814
Anonymous
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What exactly is a number?

• #187815
Anonymous
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number is a characteristic of the property of an idea when several distinct intelligible elements are thought as one under a law of the category of understanding, and the mind reflects upon this in another moment

• #187816
Anonymous
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element of set of numbers

• #187860
Anonymous
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Spbp

• #187817
Anonymous
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Any ring has an isomorphism to a set of numbers. The class of all numbers is the union of these sets.

• #187818
Anonymous
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• #187819
Anonymous
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In and of itself? Nothing. A placeholder of sorts to help describe certain relationships without tying them to concrete objects.

• #187820
Anonymous
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The units of measurement of quantity.

• #187822
Anonymous
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Correct

• #187823
Anonymous
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what is quantity?

• #187824
Anonymous
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If I have two apples, and you give me one more apple, then I have three apples. Quantity tells us how many or how much of something we have.

• #187826
Anonymous
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What is an apple?

• #187827
Anonymous
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blue bubbles

• #187862
Anonymous
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A fruit.

• #187825
Anonymous
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What is quantity?
Baby don’t hurt me.
Don’t hurt me.
No more.

• #187821
Anonymous
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Numbers is something our brains made up a long with many other things like sound and time to cope with the universe being completely devoid of reason and logic.

• #187828
Anonymous
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Abstract tools to count, quantify, order and measure imaginary or physical objects

• #187829
El ArcÃ³n
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A number is an element of an ordered set, or a partially ordered set.

• #187832
Anonymous
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• #187830
Anonymous
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A concept.

• #187831
Anonymous
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i could use a little help myself

• #187833
Anonymous
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numbers are quantities or mathematical objects defined by a set of axioms. you have different kinds of numbers like integers, irrationals, complex, vectors, etc

• #187834
Anonymous
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a stand-in for a real physical thing or a theoretical thing.

• #187835
Anonymous
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so 1 can mean (1 apple) or it can mean 1 znorf(a znorf is a metaphysical fruit i want to genetically engineer into life).

2 means 2 znorfs or 2 apples or it can mean 1 znorf and 1 apple, depending on context applied.

• #187837
Anonymous
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so a number is nothing more than a tool, and just like the word ‘gay’ is a descriptor of a state

the word 1 can stand for amount of gays in the room.

however, they are both concepts, and a concept is just a thought.

and a thought is just a tool.

• #187840
Anonymous
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it doesnt have any inherent existance beyond what it subjectively means to every person.

however, due to convention and learning(indoctrination), 1 will mean the same thing to "most people"…

so its not that its objective its just that it’s subjective reality is shared with enough people enabling conversation.

this is no different to the word ‘gay’.

however if you were to use the word ‘gay’ in the 1800s im sure it would actually mean ‘happy’ and not your sexual orientation.

this shows that a) homosexuals have no shame and even steal words standing for happiness from the wider population and b) the meaning of words change.

say some Harvard or MIT cunt tomorrows decides that the number 1 should really stand for what the number 2 now stands for and vice versa and the gnomish press publishizes this widely and use their agents in academia to push it into the curricula.

then suddenly the word 1 now means 2 for the greatest amounts of consciousnesses.

do you catch my drift?

• #187836
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A number by itself is meaningless. What matters is a number system. Once you have a number system, you can talk about what the numbers in them are. 13 in Z/61Z is a number but it’s not the same kind of number as 13 in Z.

• #187838
Anonymous
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It’s the name for how many of something there are.
Lol.

• #187839
Anonymous
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>the label is the thing it refers to
>t. NPC

• #187858
Anonymous
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Yes that’s what words are.

For example describe this: O

It’s a circle, because that’s the name for this thing: O.

Anything more descriptive than that is just a ruse, a lie, a deception. You have deceived yourself, you bigot. Wittgenstein was right. Lol.

• #187841
Anonymous
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>numbers are subjective

• #187842
Anonymous
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numbers are just words. sure, they are widely agreed upon but in the end just symbols for the mind.

• #187843
Anonymous
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>the label is the thing it refers to

• #187845
Anonymous
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i never said that. read again.

• #187846
Anonymous
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>i never said that
>numbers are just words
So are numbers just words, or are the words referencing numbers, just words?

• #187847
Anonymous
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they are both symbols… to the mind there is no difference to "two" and 2 beyond the immediate experiental content…

it is just due to convention we call "two" a word and "2" a number…

• #187849
Anonymous
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>the label/symbol is the thing it refers to
>no, i did not say what i just said

• #187850
Anonymous
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i suggest you read what i said again

the problem with language is that it is subjective which your example shows. lol.

• #187851
Anonymous
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Does "two"/"2" refer to something?

• #187852
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• #187853
Anonymous
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Okay. So does "two"/"2" refer to something?

• #187854
Anonymous
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well you have to answer that. stop pestering me.

• #187855
Anonymous
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Does it refer to anything or not? Yes or no?

• #187856
Anonymous
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it refers to two quantities. but that is only because of convention. its just a word. calm down.

• #187844
Anonymous
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i suppose i should add that they are the most "objective" you could ever come to. but humans are not objective but subjective.

a supercomputer could in theory be objective if it knew everything about the universe and used everything to calculate anything but humans are fallible.

that is not to say a supercomputer such as this exists. it doesnt and probably never will. i suppose the garden gnomes made me make that comment.

• #187848
Anonymous
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A thing to describe the relationship between things and other things.

• #187857
Anonymous
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An abstract object defined in the most basic sense through god.

• #187859
Anonymous
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• #187861
Anonymous
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Arbitrary symbols
1+1 doesn’t mean anything with no context

• #187863
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