What an utterly scrotebrained way of fighting. How do you even convince anyone to just walk to their death?

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    • #191989
      Anonymous
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      What an utterly scrotebrained way of fighting. How do you even convince anyone to just walk in line waiting to get shot?

    • #191990
      Anonymous
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      This was how they managed set-piece battles. Sieges were much more common during this time. But when you had to fight in the field, this was how you managed these large numbers of troops when your only communication tools were flags, horns and yelling. The army that moved together, projected force together, and held together would win. Armies that ran around, hid behind stuff and broke off into smaller elements would lose the chain of command and get run down by cavalry.
      This method worked fine against both similar armies and hordes of screaming natives.

      • #191991
        Anonymous
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        fpbp, absolutely woke af response

      • #192002
        Anonymous
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        the only post you need. scroll down at your peril.

      • #192007
        Anonymous
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        great post

      • #192026
        Anonymous
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        >Sieges were much more common during this time
        Good post but has there ever been a point in time where this wasn’t true?

        • #192027
          Anonymous
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          times before castles?

        • #192028
          Anonymous
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          now I guess

        • #192029
          Anonymous
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          Napoleonic wars largely set piece battles, battles between the last Italian war and vauban after the 30 years war

      • #192030
        Anonymous
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        absolutely scrotebrained way of fighting. atleast use a shield to form a wall or something

        • #192036
          Anonymous
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          >bulletproof shield too heavy or too small to use practically
          >thick cloth will stop bullets going completely through you

          • #192039
            Anonymous
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            It works in Total War Warhammer. That’s where all these brainlet takes come from.

      • #192033
        Anonymous
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        I’d like to add a psychological factor that played in during the 30th year war (and probably in a lot of other encounters, but that’s the example that comes to mind). Sweden’s troops ended up walking straight into fire since they were hardcore Christians that seriously believed that God already had decided if you would live or die that day. So running away wouldn’t change anyway, God would still end up killing you. If God didn’t mean to kill you that day, you’d survive by the grace of God.

        The point is that it not only made sense from a strategical point of view; people’s psychology allowed something we may see as silly today.

        • #192034
          Anonymous
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          > during the 30th year war
          Later, Swedish Jihad was started by Charles XI
          i mean that sis literally gave a swords to his soldiers and told them to run into enemies

        • #192041
          Anonymous
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          That’s pretty impressive, actually

    • #191992
      Anonymous
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      There’s no physical evidence the battle of Stalingrad happened. Likely same for others.
      Some battles are reasonable and have evidence.

      • #191993
        Anonymous
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    • #191994
      Anonymous
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      Look at

      […]

      , all the reasons for it are already there

    • #191995
      Anonymous
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      >How do you even convince anyone

      First of all, you can come back later and pick all the corpses’ pockets.

      Second of all, you can kill, rape, and destroy and get paid for it, plus probably promoted. Every battle creates a whole bunch of promotions.

      You’d be surprised how little "convincing" it takes to young boys who want to get the fuck off their Pa’s farm if it kills them. Back then kids weren’t all a bunch of pussy scrotes, they were rarin’ to go, they were freaking lying about their age, trying to join at 10, 12, 14 years old.

      Fuck, do you know how many people in History joined the army because they were HUNGRY?

    • #191996
      Anonymous
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      why didnt enemy soldiers just walk around the lines? Or attack a night with melee weapons so no one can see shit?

      • #191997
        Anonymous
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        because then the enemy army can also move against them and catch them in a bad situation, and night assaults are a bitch to pull off meaning you have a bunch of barely organized guys with weapons that don’t allow them to shoot back if they are caught

      • #192003
        Anonymous
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        one word – Cavalry

        • #192038
          Anonymous
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          So use freaking elephants genius

    • #191998
      Anonymous
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      How do you imagine crawling in dirt and then firing with a dirt covered musket which had pretty big chance of misfiring even in ideal conditions?
      How do you imagine stoping massive sword-armed infantry charge with a gun which had terrible rate of fire unless shooters were massed to unleash devastating volleys?
      How do you imagine fighting massive cavalry charges with isolated infantry units?

      • #191999
        Anonymous
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        BRO, just issue every dude multiple rifles and pistols, plus issue every squad like a tiny cannon with a wide mouth that is double-shotted with canisters of tiny glass marbles.

        "Oh yeah, you gonna come stab us with your sabers? Make sure you kiss your wife and mother goodbye, poopyhole. Win, lose, or draw."

        • #192001
          Anonymous
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          I have a better solution.
          Just give them hmgs.

        • #192004
          Anonymous
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          What about glass cannonballs, musketballs, etc?

          Maximum death, utter lethality, literally impossible for surgeons to find and remove all the shards.

          Imagine using a literal old-fashioned trebuchet to hurl like six barrels of gunpowder with packed glass shards and nails and rocks and lengths of wire with nuts and bolts tied on both ends, and you stick a fuse in that thing and light it and ideally you cut the fuse just short enough to have it explode in mid-air above the enemy ranks.

          Just turn like 400 dudes into motherfreaking paste.

          • #192005
            Anonymous
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            They have grapeshot for this kind of thing. And trebuchets and catapults aren’t really practical in the field. They take ages to set up, and then are very difficult to aim. Useful against a castle, not great against marching soldiers.

            • #192008
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              I’m saying glass is way better because it shatters into a literal cloud of crystal shards that literally are impossible for surgeons to remove, just breathing in the glass dust would freaking end your life.

              Imagine a volley of broken glass particles, and oh by the way, they’ll be freaking BURNING hot, dudes will be squealing in agony like a freaking pig caught under a gate, dude. Maximum morale shock.

              I would make it a freaking death sentence to take the field against my army, win, lose, or draw. Even if you beat us, it won’t matter. In 48 hours, you’ll ALL be dead. Every mother’s son.

              >trebuchets too long to set up
              Okay, just make mini-pop up trebuchets and instead of six full-size barrels, just like, a single pony keg of powder with the death shrapnel packed around it.

              Imagine launching a hundred of those at freaking once… I would call them my "Bouquets of Blood."

              • #192009
                Anonymous
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                Glass was harder/more expensive to manufacture then than cheap shot.
                Do you really think some autist zoomer from the 2000’s is going to come up with something the people of the time had the direct political imperitive to develop in thier own age?
                Back to tiktok my fluffy haired friend.

                • #192013
                  Anonymous
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                  It doesn’t have to be the finest glass known to man, it’s supposed to break anyway.

                  You just have to cook sand in a pot to make the kind of glass I’m talking about, dude. It’s the exact freaking opposite of expensive, it costs FIRE + SAND.

                  • #192015
                    Anonymous
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                    do you know how guns work? I already know the answer to this in case you were wondering.

                    • #192017
                      Anonymous
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                      Well I would have thought that you have a metal tube and a charge and a load and charge explodes and shoots the load out the barrel.

                      But I don’t know, what am I missing?

                      If you’re pointing out that the glass will shatter inside the barrel, that’s fine because the glass shards will still be blown out the barrel in the right direction.

                      I guess the gun might blow up but my understanding is that happens with regular bullets too, so what the fuck?

                      Why don’t you just say your fuckin’ piece instead of playing 20 questions, Socrates?

                      • #192020
                        Anonymous
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                        It cannot shatter in the barrel as the not so very dense glass will not travel very far..

                        A denser glass "ball" would be a shitter to manufacture, expensive and plainly freaking dumb. Also if it can survive the pressure of the barrel its just going to act like a super expensive normal shot.
                        The fact this was never carried out is the only answer I really need to give you. Obviously.
                        Please post your fringe and the gay shoes you are probably wearing with little girl ankle socks.
                        god I hate you.

                      • #192022
                        Anonymous
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                        I’m barefoot, and dude, I look like freaking normal-sized Hagrid.

              • #192010
                Anonymous
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                This is what TotalWar games has done to a generation of people who can’t read.

                • #192014
                  Anonymous
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                  Yeah, it’s turned regular guys into some of the most freaking brilliant battlefield commanders and grand strategists in freaking History.

                  Woke af.

                  • #192016
                    Anonymous
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                    post a picture of your fuffy fringe please

                    • #192019
                      Anonymous
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                      I’m 35.

                      I grew up on the ORIGINAL Shogun and Medieval Total War, played at least a million hours on those before Rome I even came out, clocked a billion hours on that, and between Shogun 2, Medieval 2, and Napoleon, I daresay I could give your Sun Tzu and your Clausewitz a few pointers.

                      • #192021
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        good god man

                      • #192024
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        good god man

                        He’s lying. A billion hours is over eleven thousand years

                      • #192025
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        wtf??!?

                        @Anonymous
                        is this true?

              • #192011
                Anonymous
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                Oh yeah what you want is a mangonel, those things could probably be a little more useful than the others.
                And I don’t know that much about glass so I’ll have to agree that it would work. Probably too expensive to make back then unfortunately.

              • #192023
                Anonymous
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                oh no 🙁
                cringe autist 🙁

                • #192040
                  Anonymous
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                  Cringed harder at this post than the other guys tbh

          • #192006
            Anonymous
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            You just described a guy named Henry Shrapnel.

            • #192012
              Anonymous
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              Holy shit the term shrapnel is named after a guy? I thought this was a joke when I first read it.

              • #192018
                Anonymous
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                He was an artillery guy to whom invention of first frag bombs attributed to. He also advanced tech later. Artillery pf that era prety much goes
                >solid shot
                >cannister shot
                >solid shells with explosive filler (which stricken the ground then exploded)
                >carcass shells with burning filler (which exploded b4 hitting the ground igniting everything)
                >shrapnel shells with small balls filler (which exploded b4 hitting the ground spraying everyone with shrapnel from above)

          • #192031
            Anonymous
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            >glass bullets
            >lethal range: like 3 meters
            ok

    • #192000
      Anonymous
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      Hardly anyone actually got shot don’t worry, you just move around and make a lot of smoke and noise and eventually someone leaves.

    • #192032
      Anonymous
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      The guns were wildly inaccurate. You’re basically looking at a bunch of spearmen.

    • #192035
      Anonymous
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      >How do you even convince anyone to just walk in line waiting to get shot?
      Collective action problem.

      There’s a guy to the left of you, a guy to the right of you, and several ranks of guys behind you. And the same applies for each of those other people in the formation. Unless morale is so bad that everyone at once decides to break ranks and flee, it’s basically impossible to get out of the formation, even if the majority of the soldiers composing it would prefer no to march into battle like that.

    • #192037
      S10241875
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      >How do you even convince anyone
      Beating.
      They should be more afraid of the stick than the bullet.

    • #192042
      Anonymous
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      >OP makes the exact same schizo thread every week
      >dumbasses still reply to it

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