Were more men having less sex at any point in history before now?
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Were more men having less sex in any point in history before now?
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Yes. You could get laid from arranged cousin marriages, by raping women, or die while trying to rape them.
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Brothels were more accessible. And your marriage prospects were better.
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Damn 1989 sounds like a wild time to be alive. Were you living in Pakistan or something? Nobody ever told me about legal rape here.
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Sex used to be easier to dress due to an aggressively patriarchial society, but make no mistake, toxic masculinity was prevalent then as well. In 1968, segregationist George Wallace was the most popular presidential candidate among young males.The truth is that young males were always entitled and toxic, but today’s society and the progress it had made for women has made sex much harder to come by for them.
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>toxic masculinity
opinion discarded, as it should always be, faggot-
Shut the gently caress up. Go and sit in the corner, you mental invalid. Piss off back to /poo/.
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Shut the gently caress up. Go and sit in the corner, you mental invalid. Piss off back to /poo/.
You are being toxically masculine right now, go back to tumblr to reeducate yourself.
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That last point sort of hinges on assuming that society improving for women means that sex becomes more difficult to get. But women enjoy sex too, and lessening social consequences for having sex would open the door for them to have it with more partners and more often.
I’d like to see the other end of the scale in OP’s image – what’s going on with the 72% who aren’t struggling to find sexual partners. If their overall sex is increasing, then sex isn’t getting "harder" for young men to acquire, women are just shunning a certain population. It would poke a hole in the theory that is has anything to do with entitlement or toxic masculinity unless we had data to show that the sexless males fit those categories but the 72% do not. -
There is no such thing as Toxic masculinity
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blah blah blah. 1)Stupid, 2)fat 3)nasty 4)ugly people hook up all the time. If you’re at least 2 out of 4 of those things and you aren’t getting any it’s very likely that your problem is that you expect to lay with someone who’s only 1 of those things (i.e. just half as awful as you are). Better learn to settle if you expect others to settle for you. Meanwhile most of the awful people of earth are finding plugs for their holes and holes to plug, their secret is they take what they can get
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People back in the day used to be not fat, which is like 80% of the problem anyway.
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the "problem" is women’s rights
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Among others. Women now compare the men they have not only to the men they can get for a night on tinder, but also the men feminists tell them they should have (but do not realize would not actually find attractive)
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99% of males are unfit, poor, dumb, balding.
Just getting fit at the gym, grooming properly, making twice minimal wage and not being a manchildren/autist puts you in the top 2% of males.
Women aren’t atracted to losers so neither you should look at "modern males" with anything but comtempt.
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>poor, dumb, balding.
Just be lucky bruh, why are you even alive if you’re not lucky bruh-
>I’m sorry
>I can’t be
>perfect
You guys would be "perfect" fits for obnoxious fat chicks who think they’re purrfectly impurrfect(tm) just as they are and that society & media deliberately try to tear them down with impossible standardsSo go out and get em you gently caressing studs, the land is awash with these
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is this a shitpost?
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>just have sex with people in your own range if your dick is dry
>"omg u can’t be serious"
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i deserve cunny. IM ENTITLED TO THAT MOIST HOLE. GIVE IT TO ME.
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>99% of males are unfit, poor, dumb, balding
You can’t genuinely believe this, or that men should be absolutely perfect for a chance to have a girl-
only 2% of the population is fit, the rest are obese, skinyfat or just overweight.
>absolutely perfect
It’s called being a real man, not a "modern male" which is nothing but a loser excuse of sorryness.
Anon, what if I’m balding at 21 :(, but really fit.
shave your head, that’s why I said known how to groom yourself.
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Anon, since the 1% of real men (in your opinion) doesn’t possibly spend their time on LULZ… I can only guess that you are projecting. So yeah, I’m going to ignore your posts now and strongly suggest everyone else here do the same.
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bro, I’m from /fit/ but I also like history.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/10/this-is-the-average-mans-body/280194/
you’re nothing more than a sorry excuse if you’re unfit.
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Physical fitness is also one of the least important factors
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being properly groomed and losing fat are factors that make you physically more atractive.
>but that guy that is a genetic gently caress up
sucks to be him.but the reality is that the average male is just average and getting fit will make him sexually dominant.
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You’ve yet to understand that physical attractiveness is not what’s holding most men back (and most of those it does are rather well aware of the problem). But of course that’s just part of the beating down strategy on unsuccessful men. They’re all fat stinky incels, so clearly having any empathy with them let alone trying to help them is superfluous. How convenient.
Anyway. I have four friends who don’t have relationships (but I think would like them) and none of them are fat, poorly groomed, overly weird or acting entitled towards women. One was in fact called "attractive and funny" by my sister (but not to his face). But he doesn’t think he has a chance so he doesn’t try. And people won’t tell him either.
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I’m in shape and gently caressed like a rabbit this year but I don’t deny reality
they’re losers.
sorry, but that’s how our biology works.
we’re an hypergamous specie.Women are only atracted to the top.
Animals do the same, and is worse in animals.Weak males get killed by stronger males.
That’s how nature works.
Nature doesn’t feel sorry for all the weak males that gets killed and never reproduce. -
Stripping down the popular attitude towards low attractivness men… we find raw social darwinism and calloussness. Thanks for the honesty anon.
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social darwinism is just observation of how nature works.
weaker beings are the food of stronger beings.
That’s how nature works.Animals don’t feel sorry because their weaker member of the fellowship got eaten.
Look at history.
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More likely, tribes just avoided each other when possible, and didn’t deliberately resort to violence as a first option. Societies and organisms that default to aggression inevitably meet grisly ends.
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that’s not what happened with empires thought.
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Most of them ended from some combination of political infighting, economic instability, and opportunistic invasions. Rome taught us that constant expansion isn’t sustainable.
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yes, they collapsed because they were conquered by other more young empires.
newfag.
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That was often a proximal cause, but it alone wasn’t sufficient. Rome had dealt with all sorts of tragedies before – they even rebuilt after being literally sacked and destroyed by Gauls early in their history.
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In real life, men who >have sex as often as not end up getting tied down and working their asses off to be betacuck providers, so nobody should feel too sorry for himself, unless he’s a literal teenager or otherwise has an exceptionally demanding sex drive.
I get that sex is a base, irrepressible drive, but come on. Once you get past a certain age, it seems ridiculous to bemoan being single. ESPECIALLY given how common it is.
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t. doesn’t know shit about animals
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That didn’t refute the post. If you actually knew anything about animals, you’d know how variant their mating patterns can be.
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yes, and humans don’t follow those patterns.
humans are serial monogamous with heavy hypergamy matting preferences.
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Social class as we know it isn’t even a consistent feature of human societies. For most of humanity’s time of behavioral modernity, "class" was mostly tied to age and experience. The accumulation of resources and conception of property beyond that of the personal sphere is relatively recent. Even after that, people didn’t consistently marry "upwards." Peasant farmers generally had peasant wives. Noblemen usually had noble wives.
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https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success
Doesn’t matter.
Our genetics dictate that the alpha guy impregnate most of women.Empires collapse because of historical cycles.
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Has this been replicated across the globe? In different material cultures? Doesn’t look like it.
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It’s genetic studies.
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That doesn’t answer the question.
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the answer is that humans have reproduced during thousand of years in situations where the strongest and most powerful males had hundred of children with dozen of women.
1/10 of all humans right now are the offspring of gengis khan.
>Empires collapse because of historical cycles.
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>the answer is that humans have reproduced during thousand of years in situations where the strongest and most powerful males had hundred of children with dozen of women.
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read a history book.
women always opened their legs to the barbarians.
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Via rape. Which is something we’d all prefer to avoid.
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were the japanese girls seeking american soldiers, the amerindian women seeking the iberians raped?
Most women want stronger alpha barbarian dick.
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Rape did occur during many of these occupations. Many thousands of cases.
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Glad we can agree that you’re a rape apologist.
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the most common fantasy for women is being raped by stronger more masculine males.
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Keep telling yourself that.
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sorry lad, women are atracted to strong alpha muscular right wingers instead of your liberal friends.
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>tabloid news
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okay, here’s a college professor explaining the beauty and the beast archetype.
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Clean your lobster cage.
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wash your penis.
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>haaretz
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Google it, its actually true and it was a massive blackpill for me
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>Empires collapse because of historical cycles.
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the bi- kind. Unmarried women and "modern men" careening furiously about from improvident encounter to fashionable dalliance no doubt. Wreaking public havoc all the way and knotting up the well-planed routes of our reputable four-wheeled vehicles of honest industry. In late decades these Satanical whirligig menaces have even invaded the "decent" "Christian" homestead, taking up positions God reserved for a Bible stand, a babe’s crib, even an elderly parent…
We are barreling without brakes down the once-picturesque hill of civilization to the bone-littered ditch of ignominy and indeed DESTRUCTION
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This is true, most women literally don’t care that much about looks and appearance. They care about their own appearance way more. The real reason men are lonely is just because of how the modern world is structured and how emasculating it is. Women are naturally attracted to status and hierarchy, and very few men today have a decent status or successes
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I’m in shape and gently caressed like a rabbit this year but I don’t deny reality
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>skinyfat
Meme term invented by gymcels-
>is a meme
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I meant that it’s VASTLY overused to describe anyone who’s not ripped but not quite clinically fat.
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Yes, it’s a meme. "Skinnyfat" people are just fat. There’s no need for a super special term just because they aren’t morbidly obese yet.
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You just went full retard
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Real men went where real women went. The problem is that men and women who remain expect a traditional man or woman for a spouse while they are not traditional.
And in the past society was, short for the most primitive and tribal sorts, not at all your chad bronze-age-mentality fantasy of only breeding with the top of the top and only breeding with super fit men.
Nm, I see you’re a dumb faggot who believes social darwinism is fittest as in /fit/test and not fittest as in most able to thrive in a niche. You dumb gently caressing faggot, did you notice its not lions and wolves which reproduce en masse it’s rats and rabbits and deer? You know whose more fit in a social darwinism paradigm than you? Jamal with 5 different babymommas.
You dumb cunts think darwinism, social or otherwise, is the most ripped strongest smartest sexiest most excellent virtuous person/animal is the fittest. The fitness is purely the ability to find a niche and reproduce the most. You want to know the most darwinian fit society in human history? Here’s a hint for you – they’ve been around for 3000 years and have outlived stronger, more chad civilizations and societies time and time again. gently caressing limp-wristed bookish garden gnomes are more socially fit than your big-dick alpha chad barbarians.
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Anon, what if I’m balding at 21 :(, but really fit.
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Does your facial structure accomodate balding? If yes no probs, if no you’re gently caressed and people will laugh at you and call you entitled for being mad about it.
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I hate knowing this feel
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stop larping, cletus
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>autist
What the internet commonly calls autism (most often not real autism but various kinds of social disorders) is directly caused by the modern school (and probably preschool too) environment that prohibits normal development for boys. -
>99% of males are unfit, poor, dumb, balding.
>balding
This only applies to white males. For some reason, balding is a specifically white european trait and extremely common (99%) among anyone with their ancestry. Other groups have low % of balding.-
Something to do with natural Vitamin D absorption maybe? More sun exposure on a bald head.
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The cause is genetics. Male-pattern baldness is extremely common among white males because of a sex-linked gene inherited through the mother. This means bald white men can have children who are not bald, as long as the mother of the child is not white, while white women with hair will pass baldness down to their children even if the father of the children does not carry the balding gene.
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No shit it’s genetics. The question is why such a trait took root with that specific population to begin with.
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White people have more body and facial hair. It has to do with receptors and scalp hair sensitivity.
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This is why arabs, who are famous for beards, wear headcoverings.
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The fact Russia isn’t that bad by western standards is weird because it seems like every Russian I see over the age of 27 is balding.
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What if im a brown mexican mutt? I get the worst of both worlds
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You’re fine as long as it was a white male who contributed to your lineage, which it most likely was, if you’re Latin American. The Native Americans have a very rare frequency of balding and if that’s your maternal side, it’s unlikely you’d bald.
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Execpt my older borther is bald at 23. As for me my scalp is already thinning. I doubt is has to with what side your ancestry comes from.
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That really ain’t true at all.
How do people even post stuff like this? I mean have you ever left the house in your entire life? Have the people responding to this ever left your house? A five minute trip outside and you’ll see plenty of balding darkies.
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Baldness looks good on blacks because they are ripped, makes them look manly.
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Virtually all black men are overweight or obese at least in America. Seriously do people really just come here to post their fetishes anonymously?
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It looks good on out of shape blacks too, it’s the dark skin
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Black americans have white admixture
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This is just idiotic coping. The genes for balding are the reason why male-pattern baldness is most common among whites and much less common among other groups.
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Where did I say blacks exclusively? Lmao stop posting your cuck fetish online and go outside for five minutes and you’ll see plenty of balding Asians, Indians, Arabs, blacks and Hispanics.
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>you’ll see plenty of balding
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Asians rarely bald. It can happen, but it’s quite uncommon, and if it does it happens late in life. White and Arab guys are the only ones who you’ll see balding even in their 20s.
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Lmao at moving the goalposts. Go outside and get a life and get rid of your cuck fetish. You’re obviously Americans but you can still do better than that.
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>durr i mov duh golpoas
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retard
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Asians have no DHT which is why they look like children.
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>this only applies to white males
stop drinking your own cum
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Bullshit, every melanoid i see has a shit hairline halfway down their head
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Nah sorry I don’t have any chance. 174cm manlet
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172 cm tall and my face is objectively not beautiful (as in, it doesn’t fare well on social medias) so nope
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lol shut the gently caress up Gymcel, she will always pick the man on the left, Genetics is all that matters
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Guy on left is effeminate and weighs under 160 pounds lmao
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People back in the day were pretty ugly anyway
The incel entitlement problem remains even in a village of only skinny women waiting to be handed off to a man, because you’re still gonna be stuck selecting from the skinny dregs if you are a gross, crummy person with nothing going for him
t. obviously fat
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>The incel entitlement problem remains
No it doesn’t. In some medieval village, they have nothing to compare them to. Some medieval incel has only ever seen the women in his village, he’s not comparing them to the 10/10 princess or whatever.-
>we all need to return to medieval village life to accommodate incels
LMFAO-
Didn’t say that.
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>The incel entitlement problem
Why do you retards talk as though incels are some massive militia? It’s a niche subgroup that’s been blasted for over a year from all directions, including in the mainstream media.There’s nothing virtuous or constructive about taking another jab at a group of young men that already feel rejected by society. It’s just moronic.
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>s-stop making fun of me
>I’m already sad
There’s that gently caressing entitlement we talked about.There’s people who just don’t get laid, whom I sincerely pity. And there’s people who bitch and point fingers constantly about they’re treated unfairly by society, women, garden gnomes or etc because nobody wants to have sex with their wonderful selves. And this is exactly the attitude that explains why they don’t get laid. Bitchy, irresponsible, narcissistic. The conceit that your quirky uniqueness and intellect alone rightfully ought to appeal to a cute girl is why you don’t get laid and also why nobody really likes you. Maybe the second part isn’t important to you. But if you don’t give a shit what other people think about you, then don’t expect anything from other people. No sex, no sympathy, no respect.
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Holyshit your retarded
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>It’s a niche subgroup
there’s millions of incels in every country, india alone probably has hundreds of millions-
I thought an incels self identified as incels? then whats the difference between incels and virgins
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That vid is so cringy jesus christ
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Did you see the guys at the end who started grooming her
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most incels are virgins but you can be a nonvirgin incel, if you can’t get sex for months a at time you are an incel too, chad just opens tinder and gets sex that same night. Self identification is not neccesary since it’s an objective property, many copecels consider themselves not incels but they are
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I thought being an incel ment you were
1) involuntary celibate, meaning you cant get sex
2) hated women and shitI’m new to this whole shit, I have sporadic hook-ups, maybe i might sleep with 2-3 Girls a year. I guess I am too busy with Uni and work to actually look for a serious relationships, last Gf i had was 2 years ago, I’ve never thirsted for sex. i am a very average looking dude, but I’m tall and the people i associated with are those lose drug party times who are promiscus as gently caress, so i never found it hard to peg one of the girls in our group
Do i fall under the category of an incel? cus i am 100% not a chad
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No you are definitely not an incel, non-virgin incels are rare anyway unless they are escortcels who paid for sex.
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No but you sound like a faggot
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no you are just normal, but you would probably be an incel if you weren’t tall so be glad for that
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no, that’s not true because celibate means a person who is abstaining from sexual intercourse
saying that something is involuntarily celibate is the same thing as saying they are involuntarily volunteering to not have sex
in other words it’s a nothing burger
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Incels are the entitled ones now?
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>tfw all 4
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Dude I congratulate you, I bet the 4/4’s can gently caress like Shakira wants you to THINK she can
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>stupid=fault of modern education
>fat=fault of shitty modern high fat and sugar diet
>nasty=fault dissolution of morals after death of Christianity
>ugly=fault of hedonistic lifestyle
People used to be healthier and more attractive in the past, its just that most arent capable of avoiding vices of modernity-
Imagine being this much of a faggot. Riddle me this, I live in the modern western world and Im none of those things (obvioulsly I dont know everything and Im I font bend over to be polite to people who dont deserve it but no one’s perfect). Why cant you do it if I can?
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But I am none of this things either, I am just saying a lot (maybe most) of the people are at least 2 of those things, and it would be impossible or very unlikely for them to be in the past
Modern world and technology really did a number on our species
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>modern education makes people stupider than literally no education whatsoever
haha okay retard, I’m sure your teachers literally set you back six years developmentally with their unreasonable demands to stop rubbing your acorn dick on the crafts table -
>marry 17 year old virgin
Kek, you do know roasties back then could still deny you especially if she found another suiter who was richer than you-
more motivation to be better. imagine working for all that time just to give a high class lifestyle to a whore, that is so embarassing
also more women were virgins back then, not saying sexual perversion was not a problem but it was less of a problem
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Incels have always been an issue. In the past, societies kept them under control by enslaving and castrating them.
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Societies also kept women under control, thus creating civilisation. At some point we ceased to do that.
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Who the gently caress, except knee-benders, want civilization? Maybe that’s why you are an incel.
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>Maybe that’s why you are an incel.
anybody on this website is an incel.
actual chads don’t even remotely think about these things.-
It’s over for you, incel. It has been decided.
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>women in the past were drugged by Instagram and Tinder
You are a retard
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They were having a lot of sex when Genghis Khan came.
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most incels were left to die as babies, or die as kids or were sent to die in wars.
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Its way easier to sit at home and now pursue sex and social connections, its why its going up. Men are obviously more prone to this.
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Yes for certain demographics it is easier.
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Lower attractivity men have lived a life of rejection by women, no shit many of them have given up on putting effort into it. What you’re seeing is the worst version of them. Quite a few would clean up if they had reason to believe they would have success with it – but very few would, so there we are.
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No
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>dude, women aren’t atracted to modern males
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>Newborn infants prefer attractive faces
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016363839890011X>It takes 13ms (THIRTEEN MILISECONDS) for people to differentiate attractive faces from unattractive faces
http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-15801-011?doi=1>Your FACE heavily affects your ENTIRE LIFE
>Love at first sight is real
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/meet-catch-and-keep/201801/is-love-first-sight-real>Study: Unattractive Men Not Viewed As ‘Dating Material,’ No Matter How GREAT their PERSONALITY (WEW LAD)
https://www.studyfinds.org/unattractive-men-dating-material-study/>Strong Inverse Association Between HEIGHT and SUICIDE
https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.1176/appi.ajp.162.7.1373>Height is extremely important
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201306/why-women-want-tall-men>HALO EFFECT (!)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29390018>How Important is Physical Attractiveness in the Marriage Market? (tl;dr very important)
http://www.reis.cis.es/REIS/PDF/REIS_159_07_ENGLISH1499424514902.pdf
>Women care about FACE much more than BODY
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347207000565-
now post the studies how money makes a guy more atractive.
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proving his point
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>Height is extremely important
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One of my friends is a 5’2 balding Indian software engineer and he pulls chicks like crazy. Sounds like you’re just a bitter incel.
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Ah yes, one anecdote means those studies are irrelevant and wrong
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Black Americans are generally poorer than white Americans but uhhh I know this one black doctor so actually racism isn’t real 🙂
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diverse folk are not poorer because of Racism, its because they are retarded
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Yea and mine firend is 4’8 pygmy who makes women wet with just single stare. You wouldn’t believe until you saw it yourself !
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INCREDIBLY keyed
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This is the real redpill. All women intrinsically like men who are handsome and tall, regardless of race.
polposting is a result of leftover white men being shut out of the dating market, mostly by whitechads, but also increasingly tyrones and pedros, as interracial dating loses its stigma (this makes them seethe). And as kpop shit becomes more popular, it even extends to effeminate kims/changs.
the result is that the incels go online and attempt to find any sliver of hope to vicariously identify with, by which they can restore their hurt self confidence. This then becomes the basis of their entire identity, because they have nothing else.
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I mean Biden has a point here
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Bro most incels are not even white
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Good new, newborn love me…
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it is porn and obesity, why gently caress some fat cow when you can jerk it to some of the hottest women on the planet
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>best post is ignored
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Funny, and accurate.
I don’t even understand simps who sign up to shit like OnlyFans. Talking to women online isn’t exciting or gratifying in any way, unless there’s the prospect of meeting up.
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Why are there so many seething incels on LULZ?
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>why is the website populated mostly be the outcasts of society filled with said outcasts who hate the fact they are perma virgins
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Y’all self-professed chads who think this current situation will lead to some kind of eugenic effect are sorely mistaken. Maybe chad has a few more kids than billy beta now (not that much… he has to pay for them after all) but the women who can’t have chad won’t have children at all. Those worried about stable families and economic security anyway. You can imagine what kind of people WILL have children – confident and attractive but irresponsible men, stupid and irresponsible women. Your people will degrade in numbers as well as quality, and be outbred by conservative groups who enforce monogamy – as most human cultures have done.
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It’s silly to pretend to care for morals at the decay stage of civilizational collapse.
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The people having the most children are not chad or stacies, retard. The people having the most children are those "ugly" looking couples at Walmart.
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No shit. Those are the remnant of the old family structures that still exist obviously. But they’re withering away.
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It should also be said, there’s a selective effect for women to have children rather than seek chad (or carreers, or whatever). But that will take a while.
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>Those are the remnant
>they’re withering away
No, dipshit, they are normal people doing what normal people do and have always done, except that they wear gym shorts to market nowyou WISH the disappointingly average family was fading away
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Say again?
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I’m 23 and a virgin.
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same
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I’m 28. But I’m ultimately fine with it. No matter how much I pine for a GF, I don’t want them to suffer having an autistic failure of a boyfriend.
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meh not that bad t bh
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Women have sexual freedom to follow their hypergamous instincts to only gently caress top men til they’re used up and drier than the Sahara. Top men obviously have no objections to having de facto harems of gently caress-puppet cum receptacles.
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Hypergamy
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>muh women
It’s because of video games and porn, not because of women, lol. Most virgins are volcels, not incels.
People just don’t care about relationships that much anymore.-
Also true
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Around ten thousand years ago yeah so it seems, something to do with extreme concentrations of power I guess?
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wtf i hate civilization now
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Well civilization did manage to fix it after some time. But it really is quite interesting what lead to it and what fixed it, maybe the tumult of the agricultural revolution lead to extreme concentrations of power that then normalized over time or something?
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seems to be mostly south and south east and east asian males getting cucked
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So this is why NTR is such a huge thing in east asia?
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Whats up with africa?
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Didn’t know about this graph, saving it. How many time do i have to tell you incels that the neolithic revolution was a bad thing? I mean, it’s pretty obvious once you have read about the primitive tribe, but this graph just confirmed it hard science mode.
Easy explanation: they were still into neolithic living conditions, even thousands of years after the neolithic revolution.
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Men are having sex everywhere loser, just not in virginal failed soulless capitalist states like Japan and muttmerica.
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Actually, its the mullato mutts(jamals progeny) having the most sex in america.
T. American who just graduated just highschool
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>your’s generic incel thread there socially retarded losers overrationalize their failures in relationships
We should make relationships and sex board or something to contain incels, because this is embarrasing
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That was /r9k/ but trannies took it over.
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>your’s generic incel thread there socially retarded losers overrationalize their failures in relationships
Learn to gently caressing spell you ESL retard
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Internet
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Civilisation can only be formed through restraints on the depravity and impulsivity of women.
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>1980s
>Anime and Otaku culture invented in Japan
>ever since an epidemic of maladjusted incel NEETs hold Japan in a grip of fear, sex rates collapse and demographic doom towers on the horizon>2000s
>LULZ popularizes Anime and Otaku culture in the west
>ever since an epidemic of maladjusted incel NEETs hold the west in a grip of fear, sex rates collapse and demographic doom towers on the horizonhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm really makes you think
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How many people are actually otaku NEETs? This is as retarded as blaming videogames for causing school shootings.
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How often are domestic terror attacks carried out by someone who isnt either a muslim, an otaku or married to some kind of mathematician? All clues point in the same direction
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I doubt the IRA is either Muslims, otaku, or has most of its members married to mathematicians
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Imagine being boomer enough to actually think this, what’s next on the list of scapegoats: video games?
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NTA, but: yes. Vidya and porn rendered women obsolete.
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Is that why western women have been trying so hard to worm their way into the vidya industry and turn it shit? To get men to stop playing it and go back to simping for them?
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I doubt any 4D chess move is to blame, but you’re getting close. Anita Sark. got butthurt at pretty women in vidya (as women often feel insecure about their body image, which is bullshit because we have all the same reason to be insecure over absolute superhuman Chad vidya characters) and she initiated the uglification of vidya characters. Also they got butthurt at objectification and portraying women as weak princesses — which they are, but they wanted to be hero characters as well despite the fact no such thing has ever happened.
Something to do with natural Vitamin D absorption maybe? More sun exposure on a bald head.
Why don’t asians get it? They should be lacking vitamind D as well.
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Asians make up for it with their diet instead. They eat a lot of fatty seafood high in Vitamin D.
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What about mongols? Do they make up for it with dairy products?
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Yes.
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>LULZ popularizes
only a few hundered people visit this website regularly, a few thousand weekly and monthly.
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Actually, science says you can’t even blame your mother’s genes for a bald head. For years, many people have believed the myth that the genes for male pattern baldness are passed down from a mother to her son on her x-chromosome. … But doctors say it’s more accurate to blame both of your parents for thinning hair.
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>Androgenetic alopecia (male pattern baldness) affects 80% of White men by age 40. The incidence of androgenetic alopecia also varies with race: White men are more likely to develop baldness than are men of Asian, American Indian, and African heritage. Also, the extent of hair loss often is more extensive in White men than in men of the previously mentioned other ethnicities. These differences in race suggest that a genetic predisposition is an important factor in how susceptible you are to baldness.
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Incels are actually extremely common at various times and places historically. Essentially whenever wealth inequality gets really bad you’re left with a bunch of young males who can no longer afford to start families and meaningful careers. They get massively bitter and aggressive. Sometimes they realize the true cause of their troubles, but more often they go after scapegoats like women or minorities. Look at the Blues and Greens in Rome, The populist wings of the 1848 revolutions, and countless others.
But despite the economic problems of the last 20 years making it more difficult for millennial to get laid, we are still in an era where it’s relatively easy by historical standards for couples to form. It is in fact easier for a guy like yourself in the western world to reproduce now than at any point in history. Ye Olde days you all pine for were in fact full of monopolized sexual access where the only way vast amounts of men could get laid was through prostitution or rape.-
How does the current economic situation affect the ability to get laid in the slightest?
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Basically when you can’t get a job (or at least a good paying one) it becomes more difficult for both male and female to go through all the things like dating and courtship that generally precede sex. Furthermore when one can’t support a family on their income they often don’t bother starting relationships at all. Think of how many people these days say something to the effect of "Sure I’d like to find a spouse and have kids, but I can’t afford to feed a whole family".
While the last 20-30 years of rising food/housing prices and stagnant wages have caused some of this, it’s still not as bad as it often gets historically.-
>when one can’t support a family on their income they often don’t bother starting relationships at all.
The developing parts of Africa all have enormous fertility rates, with couples rearing many children at once. The general trend is that as nations develop, birth rates go down.Those economic conditions have more of an effect in the West, because we have experienced long periods of prosperity, which has reoriented our notions of dating and parenting to be things that demand a high expenditure. But it doesn’t have to be that way.
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We’re not talking about birth rates, we’re talking about getting laid/starting a family. Rich Westerners may have only one kid but that’s still getting laid and having progeny. The problem with the economic troubles in the west and the creation of incels is that they can’t get laid or have kids at all.
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>The problem with the economic troubles in the west and the creation of incels is that they can’t get laid or have kids at all.
Hold up, incels aren’t people that are complaining about not having kids. They’re focused on developing a relationship. You shouldn’t conflate the two, because the conditions surrounding them are fundamentally different.The proto-incel is Elliot Rodger, who came from a very well off family and clearly received a generous allowance. His finances never limited him in anyway, yet he still complained about being unable to date. There’s clearly a lot more going on than pure economics.
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>By the ninth grade, Rodger was "increasingly bullied", and wrote later that he "cried by [himself] at school every day";[17] at this time he developed an obsession with the multiplayer-online game World of Warcraft, which dominated his life for most of his teenage years, and briefly into his 20s. At Crespi Carmelite High he was bullied; in one incident his head was taped to a desk while he was asleep.
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Working-class men have the hardest time getting laid because women are materialistic whores who won’t even consider dating someone who makes less than them.
The fact that corona is making us enter into a depression is going to ruin a lot more of men’s chances to get laid.-
It’s also making dating and sex 100x harder, and physical contact and in-person interaction already seemed to be going downhill.
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>we are still in an era where it’s relatively easy by historical standards for couples to form
I don’t think so.
The modern family is incredibly small and atomized, largely divorced from its ancestral grounds. Back in the day, it was quite common to meet new people and to create new relations by relying on the preexisting relations that a family member may have had. Your cousin might play tennis on the weekends and he’s met a woman there that would be right for you, that kind of thing.Now look at friendship groups. Relocating is a pretty common phenomenon now, especially for work or study. You might have developed a nice friendship group that also facilitates the meeting of new people, but that really only works if you’re in the same geographic proximity. If most of your friends are now scattered across the country, let alone the world, you’re again more isolated and unable to capitalize on that.
Additionally, as society grows older and the average man increasingly is a 40-something year old, you can expect to see the events on offer in a region reflect that demographic change. Young people will often meet through mutual interest groups, outside their work or study. But if those groups are oriented around the interests of the predominant elderly community, then it’s unlikely those young people will attend, preferring to stay at home.
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None of that matters when economic prevent you from banging any of this people you meet. Look at the Middle East. They have tight knit clans and extended families and have a massive incel problem, which allows groups like ISIS have so any recruits. Because the Mid-East has obscene amounts of wealth-inequality that means most young men can’t get married in if they know a billion cousins, and the Mid-east has no problem with cousin-fucking. For a historical example look at 1848 Europe. Also a place of tight knit communities. But the advent of the Industrial Revolution created all these out of work Journeymen who couldn’t become masters and Farmers who lost their land to things like the Enclosure acts. They likewise couldn’t get laid.
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It really doesn’t cost that much to date someone, anon. I don’t know where you’re from, but most modern Western countries provide their poor and young with enough of a stipend to afford to see a movie or go to a restaurant now and then. If you’re talking about people over 30, that are focused on finding someone to settle down with, then I agree, economic circumstances are harming their ability to start a family. But most young people aren’t interested in that yet.
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How does the current economic situation affect the ability to get laid in the slightest?
that’s bullshit though, poor people gently caress anything and breed like rabbits
it is due to social ostracism in the modern world
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We have a lot more on demand porn.
It’s a lot of work to get laid, and even more work to have sex
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Bronze age, look up lesbian sister-wife triumvirate of Elam.
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it seems clear to me that male sex started really declining after the 2008 housing crisis, as less men have houses and therefore less options for places to bone
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Most likely. As evidenced by genomic data, the ratio of effective (i.e. breeding) female to male population at the height of the Neolithic revolution was seventeen to one, the most dramatic in human history. Only one male per seventeen females left descendants. Though it is possible they did have sex and children at some point, but later all the males in the fellowship were exterminated, with the females surviving and being taken by the conquerors.
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*those are plots of the effective male (left) and female (right) populations at the bottom, if that isn’t clear
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>you will never be an early farmer butchering late hunter-gatherers, eating the meat of their men for that sweet protein and taking their women to birth you more sons to help you out in the field
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The time of man is gone. The time of incel has come.
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Your sister, potential girlfriend, is being given to browns, so that they can breed her. It was always meant to be like this. You were always meant to be incel. Deep down, you know i’m right. You’ll never have sex. It’s better to accept it, than to pretend it isn’t… true.-
Im brown tho
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Pajeet doesn’t count. I’m talking about a true melanoid or arab.
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>Imagine being unironically concerned about sex and women
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Im 5"5
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bump
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>more independent social & economic mobility for women
>more technology & culture promoting >online connectivity over local connectivity
>demanding work hours (looking at you japan)
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>waaaah it was better when women were societally bard from living through their own means!
>I don’t care about love or mutual support
>I just want society to pressure girls to marry me even if they don’t like meIronic thing is, women still had plenty of options even under those conditions, so you wouldn’t have been safe from Chad in those days either. In fact the pressure would have been for men to settle as well to provide children and prove you’re not a homosexual. All incels need is to be pressured to accept any woman they can get, they spend too much of their time looking at Stacy and fantasising about a fictional bygone era where he could enslave her with his Y chromosomes and job gathering wheat.
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>let’s force scarcity to destroy the middle class so we have a whole generation of disfranchised youths addicted to escapism and porn we can sell to them
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When will this “left=liberals” meme end?
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because relationships are a time and money investment
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Oh that explains the trend with anti german teenagers, it’s literally all incels
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So 2008 was apparently a high point in sex-having.
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2008 really was the year everything went to shit
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they had to stop it.
they need us as a scapegoat.
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Nothings changed, just better record keeping and more acceptance of folks not interested in screwing. Oh, large populations and changes in living conditions kinda helps.
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