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    • #167913
      /sdg/ – systemd General
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      Welcome to systemd general, where we talk about systemd and all of its great features, ask questions and help eachother out with its usage

      systemd components:
      >systemd-boot; boot manager that deprecates GRUB
      >systemd-homed; user accounts manager
      >systemd-logind; login manager
      >systemd-networkd; network manager that deprecates NetworkManager
      >systemd-nspawn; namespace container
      >systemd-resolved; network name resolution that deprecates openresolv and resolvconf
      >systemd-sysusers; complements homed in managing user accounts
      >systemd-timesync; network time sync daemon
      >systemd/Journal; journaling daemon
      >systemd/timers; scheduler that deprecates cron

      Resources:
      >http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-docs.html
      >https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
      >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd
      >https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd
      >https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Systemd

      Feel free to ask any questions related to systemd, its usage or any issues you are encountering and we’ll do our best to help you out
      For non-systemd related help visit

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    • #167914
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >>systemd-sysusers; complements homed in managing user accounts
      woke af scrotebrain

      • #167915
        Anonymous
        Guest

        It’s not wrong

    • #167916
      Anonymous
      Guest

      systemdeez NUTS haHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • #167917
      Anonymous
      Guest

      SystemD’s various network tools: so good that Red Hat Enterprise Linux rejected all of them and sticks to good old NetworkManager & co!
      Maybe it’s better to let the experts in networking stick to writing network software, and Poettering can stick to his toys, eh?

      • #167918
        Anonymous
        Guest

        RHEL has already announced that they plan to deprecate NetworkManager & co by the systemd echo system. They will plan to push it to fedora first though

        • #167922
          Anonymous
          Guest

          https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650342
          Sounds like RHEL rejected NetworkD as the utter shit it is.

          • #167926
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >links to 3 years old issue
            lol
            https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1789146
            networkd is coming to fedora and later RHEL

            • #167927
              Anonymous
              Guest

              lol glowies played themselves

            • #167930
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >optional components
              Nice try Leonard

          • #167929
            Anonymous
            Guest

            if you read it, there is a lot of truth in that networkmanager exists and works well within the domain that EL actually supports. In terms of networkd, EPEL now has it for 8.

      • #167938
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Why not just use wicd? It wasn’t that long ago LULZ recommend it. I guess nuLULZ are coomers that got her last year.

    • #167919
      Anonymous
      Guest

      glowscrote.com

    • #167920
      Anonymous
      Guest

      不名誉なプログラムシステムディー CVE-2012-1174 Delete Any Files コンピューターが破壊された CVE-2015-7510, CVE-2018-15688 Arbitrary State Insertion 状態注入 CVE-2017-9217 Buffer Overflow バッファオーバーフロー CVE-2017-9445 systemd-resolvd Remote Code Execution プログラムをリモートで実行する CVE-2017-15908 Denial of Service サービス拒否 CVE-2017-1000082 0-Day (ゼロデイ) Root Exploit コンピュータを好きなように実行させます CVE-2018-15686 Root Privilege Elevation (10.0 Critical Exploit!!) ルートアカウントの不適切なアクセス CVE-2020-13776 Root Privilege Elevation Again 特権の昇格 CVE-2019-6454 Kernel Panic カーネルパニック CVE-2020-1712 Arbitrary Code Execution 任意のコードの実行 CVE-2021-33910 Stack Exhaustion スタックのスペースが不足しました CVE-2021-40084 Denial of Service サービス拒否攻撃

      • #167924
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This is the funniest freaking shit I’ve seen so far this week

      • #167925
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Woke af.

      • #167939
        Anonymous
        Guest

        kek

      • #167941
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Get those moon runes off the board.

      • #167953
        Anonymous
        Guest

        never stop posting

      • #167995
        Anonymous
        Guest

        woke af

    • #167921
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >poettpoettpoettpoettpoettpoett

    • #167923
      Anonymous
      Guest

      systemd chad, is there a nixos way of describing udev rules or do I have to write to ${whatever}/lib/rules.d/

      and yes, systemd-udevd is systemd so it’s on topic.

    • #167933
      Anonymous
      Guest

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    • #167934
      Anonymous
      Guest

      coming up next
      >systemd-memoryd Memory allocator
      >systemd-replicant Data replication, replaces RAID
      >systemd-remoteaccess Replaces SSH
      >systemd-blockd Replaces kernel block device drivers
      >systemd-tedit Text editor
      >systemd-vaxpass Manages health certificates
      >systemd-greenpass Meters your electricity, water and meat consumption
      >systemd-buttplug Unified audio system

    • #167943
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Thanks, but I’m staying with Void.

      • #167944
        Anonymous
        Guest

        You should migrate you a systemd distro friend, you will see how much better it is than other init systems.

        • #167945
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Thanks, but I’m sticking with Upstart 🙂

          • #167947
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Upstart is abandonware
            systemd is has very active development, and plenty of features

            • #167950
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Upstart runs on every ChromeBook out there. It’s reached a good stable status, and doesn’t need to expand like systemd does, because Upstart is a lightweight event-woke af system which doesn’t need to do anything other than deal with services – you can plug in other event sources via its interfaces.
              So if by ‘abandonware’ you mean "proven to work well on hundreds of millions of computers and continuing to work great to this day" then why would I want to run anything else?

              • #167955
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >"proven to work well on hundreds of millions of computers and continuing to work great to this day"
                You mean "barely good enough to launch an instance of Chromium"?

                • #167957
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Yeah – like how systemd is barely good enough to launch GDM.

                  • #167958
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    works on my machine

                    • #167960
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Upstart works on my ChromeBook

                      Except GDM isn’t what manages the user’s other processes. That’s done by systemd, because systemd happens to be good at managing processes. Meanwhile Chromium is practically its own process manager. Now cope, advocate of a glorified Chromium bootloader.

                      Listen sweetie, wait till you learn that A) there are many other services running on a ChromeBook, and many event sources which Upstart coordinates, and B) the web browser you’re writing from is also practically its own process manager.
                      Now cope, advocate of a glorified Chromium bootloader – after all, you spend most of your day in a web browser too.

                      • #167961
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Reddit typed this post

                      • #167962
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Systemd is pure redditry. Just look at how /r/linux white-knights for systemd the moment someone criticises it. It’s like criticising a freaking Marvel superhero there,

                      • #167963
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Just look at how /r/
                        stopped reading right there
                        go back to r*ddit and shill your abandoned init system over there scrote

                      • #167964
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Cope cope cope you devious little systemd-shilling creature

                      • #167965
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        There’s nothing to cope about
                        systemd works perfectly well and has all the features I want and more
                        what would I cope about?

                      • #167967
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        The lack of a downvote button has given you the illusion that here you are surrounded by like minded individuals.

                  • #167959
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Except GDM isn’t what manages the user’s other processes. That’s done by systemd, because systemd happens to be good at managing processes. Meanwhile Chromium is practically its own process manager. Now cope, advocate of a glorified Chromium bootloader.

        • #167946
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >You should try this weed
          >It’s safe, it won’t fuck up your brain
          >Bro, just trust me, it’s safe
          no, thank you

          • #167948
            Anonymous
            Guest

            trust me, install systemd, you won’t regret it

            • #167949
              Anonymous
              Guest

              I don’t want no systemd on my machine.

      • #167951
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Void is such a good linux distro

        • #167952
          Anonymous
          Guest

          It would be even better if it had systemd.

      • #167969
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Woke af

    • #167954
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I like systemd because the boot process is very fast and it makes it very easy to manage services and choose which ones start on boot.

    • #167956
      Anonymous
      Guest

      systemd has nice autocomplete.
      systemctl ""
      journalctl ""

    • #167968
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Looks cute. Is there any production-ready implementation of the SystemD suite or is it still Lenny’s toy project? Last time I tried it two months ago it sucked ass.

      • #167970
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Sure anon, the latest version of Debian comes with systemd
        Most desktop distributions include it out of the box as well.

        • #167971
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Sure anon, the latest version of Debian comes with systemd
          I have used Debian and several derivatives for fifteen consecutive years so far. It worked pretty good until they started adding systemd dependencies everywhere. I thought it was just teething issues so I tolerated them and reinstalled again and again until it became untolerable. Then I cut it some slack and thought it just was because it wasn’t the reference implementation of the SystemD operating system, so I tried CentOS and Fedora, but no luck. It’s still dogshit and I won’t pay for RHEL. The reference implementation is borken, I can’t afford the time to distrohop for a secondary implementation that manages to fix the borken defaults, and if I am going to pay for shit proprietary software I might as well use Windows.

          What a pity. I’ll stay on BSDland while SystemD blows over and the Linux kernel community finds a new operating system to distribute it. See you when Linux gets stable again I guess.

    • #167972
      Anonymous~
      Guest

      systemd maintenance guide:
      1) delete sysemd

      • #167974
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >delete sysemd
        >computer doesn’t boot anymore
        That is, sadly, a very common experience on distros such as void or gentoo where systemd is simply missing and was replaced by amateur software

        • #167975
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >replace systemd with amateur software
          Nothing of value would be lost

          • #167976
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Thanks, but I prefer my init system to be done by professionals.

            • #167978
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Lennart is not a professional. If you want a professional init system, look to SMF.

              Example of proper code documentation:
              https://github.com/joyent/illumos-joyent/blob/master/usr/src/cmd/svc/startd/graph.c#L31

              Notice how code is explained throughout with illustrative comments. There are extensive error-checks. Meanwhile in systemd you have a lmao shitheap of uncommented cryptic code.

              • #167981
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >Lennart is not a professional.
                Lennart is a professional. He has decades of experience in programming advanced Linux related software (Avahi and Pulseaudio are two easy examples).
                Not only that, but Lennart is not the sole developer of systemd. In fact, systemd is backed by multiple multi-billion dollar corporations, such as Red Hat, SUSE and others.

                • #167982
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  He is not a professional, he is a bumbling amateur who doesn’t understand the importance of good software architecture and can’t even comment his code.

                  • #167996
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    He is professional playing amateur.

              • #167989
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Port SMF to Linux? Or is CDDL in the way?

            • #167985
              Anonymous
              Guest

              >I prefer my init system to be done by professionals.
              Then why are you using systemd?

    • #167973
      Anonymous~
      Guest

      also red hat shills FUCK OFF

    • #167977
      Anonymous
      Guest

      systemd doesn’t deprecate any of the programs you claim it does. It provides lightweight alternatives.

      • #167980
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Nothing stops you from using old, legacy software, but that doesn’t mean it’s not deprecated and hasn’t been replaced by something new, modern and faster.

    • #167979
      Anonymous
      Guest

      More like systemPP
      give me init or give me death

    • #167983
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >systemd components:
      >systemd-boot; boot manager that deprecates GRUB
      >systemd-homed; user accounts manager
      >systemd-logind; login manager
      >systemd-networkd; network manager that deprecates NetworkManager
      >systemd-nspawn; namespace container
      >systemd-resolved; network name resolution that deprecates openresolv and resolvconf
      >systemd-sysusers; complements homed in managing user accounts
      >systemd-timesync; network time sync daemon
      >systemd/Journal; journaling daemon
      >systemd/timers; scheduler that deprecates cron
      how the fuck did this happen

    • #167984
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Why the fuck can’t a single distro agree on a canonical list of folders for placing user and system services files? In Mac OS X we have two spots: /Library/LaunchAgents and ~/Library/LaunchAgents. It’s pretty easy to tell which is system and user specific. Moreover, you can drop a plist pretty much wherever you want and enable it with launchctl, justify its full path. Meanwhile Debian and Arch have completely different approaches to installing services, and on top of that, the systemd manpage doesn’t make clear at all what directories are candidates for searching. Also, for some reason, systemd on my end doesn’t always load services I list as required in a given services. Yet manually invoking start on them will result in successes, so I know the services aren’t dying midway.

      • #167986
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Why can’t proprietary systems like Windows and macOS agree with each other? On free software systems we all use systemd and Gnome

        • #167988
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Actually, service supervision has been pretty stable and consistent on Windows NT since pretty much its existence. Moreover, OS X switched to launchd to overcome deficiencies in the usual BSD daemons like cron, inetd, and so on. It makes sense they disagree on some details because they have completely different kernels. What excuse do Linux distros using systemd have? Why must Arch insist on /etc/systemd/system but Debian wants you placing it elsewhere? This even violates the FHS, since /etc is not supposed to contain scripts that run executable files. Of course, nobody in Linux cares about FHS. That’s why the file heirarchy in Linux distros are all scattered compared to Illumos, BSD, and even freaking OS X.

      • #167990
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >In Mac OS X we have two spots
        I’m pretty sure if there were 50 different distributions of MacOS, there would be more than two spots

    • #167987
      Anonymous
      Guest

      systemd is honestly easier to work with than any of the older init systems I have used. The one on openwrt is okay to but I’ve never had to write or configure anything.

    • #167991
      Anonymous
      Guest

      bump

    • #167992
      Anonymous
      Guest

      how many millions of lines now? 15?

    • #167994
      Anonymous
      Guest

      fuck RedShat and fuck systemd

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