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    • #164696
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      “We are not, as some would have us believe, doomed to an inevitable decline. We have the right to dream heroic dreams.”

    • #164697
      Anonymous
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      Best the Amerisharts can hope for is a peaceful transfer of power and end up on good terms with whatever future nation surpasses them (like the UK after WWII).

      • #164698
        Anonymous
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        I hate to muttmit it, but the Amerisharts cracked a winning formula and are here to stay.

        • #164701
          Anonymous
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          >are here to stay
          That’s not what people mean when they say "decline". The US has an entire continent to themselves and two sea walls protecting them on each side. They will never be conquered, but to think they can stay on top forever is scrotebrained.

        • #164705
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          Relative decline is certain and has already happened. Absolute decline doesn’t have to happen, but is happening. For example, NASA has only11 spacesuits, all of 1970s vintage, which were only supposed to be used for 15 years. NASA has spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to design new suits, with nothing to show for it.
          https://oig.nasa.gov/docs/IG-17-018.pdf

          • #164707
            Anonymous
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            There isn’t the motivation to design new suits and we really don’t have the same caliber of engineers we had in 1965.

            • #164708
              Anonymous
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              >There isn’t the motivation to design new suits
              NASA is spending tens of billions of dollars on spacecraft and associated systems to return astronauts to the Moon. Gateway and any ISS successor stations also require EVA capability.

              • #164709
                Anonymous
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                >did not pay attention to the second part of the post
                The engineers they have today are diversity hires and low wage poos on H1B1 visas, they don’t look like the Apollo Mission Control room. Why would you be surprised nothing gets done?

                • #164722
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                  Ah, so it was just a /poo/ screed. Nothing of value was lost in ignoring it.
                  GAO and OIG generally point the finger at the management of these.
                  >they don’t look like the Apollo Mission Control room
                  Neither does the campus of MIT today.
                  Regardless, you’d still be wrong.
                  https://www.nasa.gov/offices/odeo/workforce-data

                  • #164723
                    Anonymous
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                    >GAO and OIG generally point the finger at the management of these.
                    Do you have more specific information on this? I am very very very very interested in this topic

            • #164710
              Anonymous
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              From what I’ve read it seems like the actual answer is a radical decline in state administrative capacity beginning in the 70s and 80s. Everything the United States does costs more and gets worse results because we reshaped our government around spending less on public services and public administration. We spend money doing things through private entities and contractors instead. And American government is unfortunately very bad at dealing with private entities and getting good results at a low cost, partly because the aforementioned lack of administrative capacity makes government liable to be taken advantage of by private actors, and partly because corruption is now endemic throughout the American political system. So we pay far more, get worse results, and a ton of money gets channeled into private hands.

              I find it extremely hard to believe that the capacity of the American engineering sector *as a whole* is worse than it was in 1965. It’s the administrative and political side. And we don’t have the political will to fix those problems, or really, the cultural and political vision to understand them in the first place.

              • #164712
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                I don’t necessarily agree with all of that however it may be understood that Americans of the 50s-60s had a more collectivist mentality than they do today due to an entire generation being shaped by war. Big national projects were something that came to people naturally while now they do not. The idea of beating the Soviet Union was also a powerful psychological motivator that doesn’t exist today. Americans in 2021 don’t have the notion that if we can’t design a spacesuit, the commies will win.

              • #164737
                Anonymous
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                Gigawoke af

            • #164734
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              • #164736
                Anonymous
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                Nah, our launch systems today are way better than anything we had in the 60s or 70s. The Falcon 9 alone blows out the rest of the planet, and anything we’ve ever used before that.

                Space is literally the one area where the US is actually widening its advantage over the rest of the planet.

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            • #164732
              Anonymous
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              And all we have to show for it is Musk sending a car to become junk stuck in low-Earth orbit and Bezos ducking around in zero gravity for a few hours.
              Wow.

              • #164733
                Anonymous
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                lmao scrotebrain

                • #164738
                  Anonymous
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                  Nah, our launch systems today are way better than anything we had in the 60s or 70s. The Falcon 9 alone blows out the rest of the planet, and anything we’ve ever used before that.

                  Space is literally the one area where the US is actually widening its advantage over the rest of the planet.

                  Where are the results?
                  Only Reddit is impressed by fancy parlor tricks like launching a car into low-Earth orbit and having a bald fuck playing around in zero gravity.
                  How come NASA could send men to the moon in 1969 but these millionaires with much more advanced tech haven’t launched a moon mission yet?
                  The public isn’t impressed with this, no matter how fancy you make the technical side of things sound.

                  • #164739
                    Anonymous
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                    Why is this even a question? Modern science and technology is just rich guys’ ego tripping projects. It’s not like it was in the 50s.

                  • #164740
                    Anonymous
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                    >Where are the results?

                    Well, we’ve launched over 1600 communication satellites since 2019, and gotten the cost of a launch down from two billion dollars to 40 million dollars.

                    >How come NASA could send men to the moon in 1969 but these millionaires with much more advanced tech haven’t launched a moon mission yet?

                    Because oldspace is still in charge of a lot of the moon landing program and that shit is taking forever. Also, SpaceX doesn’t give two shits about the moon, their objective was Mars colonization, so they’ve had to retool for the Moon (which is actually harder from a Delta V perspective)

                    >The public isn’t impressed with this, no matter how fancy you make the technical side of things sound.

                    I would disagree, a lot of people have been pretty excited about the Starship test flights, especially the ones that don’t blow up.

                  • #164741
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                    And to think back in the day they whined about Alan Shepard shooting a golf ball on the Moon.

                  • #164742
                    Anonymous
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                    For what it’s worth my uncle has worked for NASA contractors for nearly 40yrs as an engineer. He tells me these private guys are dogshit at thoroughly testing new designs because it’s cost prohibitive. He can’t wait to retire bc he says the way we handle things now is going to get people killed.

        • #164715
          Anonymous
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          >They will never be conquered
          Your transcrote soldiers are too weak to win a war against a few goat fuckers, they’ll get curmstombed like the degenerates by any modern army.

          • #164716
            Anonymous
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            I’m sure Iraq thought something similar in 1991

          • #164717
            Anonymous
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            >curbstomped like the degenerates they are by any modern army
            oops

            • #164718
              Anonymous
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              facebook memes? that’s what we’re doing now? that’s embarrassing for you anon

              • #164719
                Anonymous
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                Did you to pass the new combat fitness test, Mike?

              • #164724
                Anonymous
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                imagine bootlicking mike milley of all people lmfao

            • #164720
              Anonymous
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              >t. White general who hates white people and undermined american capability to do war in order to help china.

              […]

              Well, he was wrong.

              I’m sure Iraq thought something similar in 1991

              >Iraq
              Isn’t that the country which is now a puppet state of one of america’s greatest enemies, Iraq?

              • #164721
                Anonymous
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                *Greatest enemies Iran

        • #164743
          Anonymous
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          >but the Amerisharts cracked a winning formula and are here to stay.
          Those who built America and their descendants are definitely not here to stay. They will be gone. People calling themselves "American" will remain, but that’s hardly "staying". You yourself wouldn’t survive your death just because a child is named after you, would you?

          • #164744
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            The thing is, the birth rate for white Americans is still higher than that of Chinese, Japanese, or most Euros.

            In 100 years, white christians will still be a plurality of the population, because Christians have high birth rates, and whites are the biggest group of Christians in America.

            • #164745
              Anonymous
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              This. A lot of people don’t realize America has the youngest white population on earth.

    • #164699
      Anonymous
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      >not a monarch
      Common criminal in my eyes, explains his satanic anti white and pro banker/monopolistic policies

      • #164703
        Anonymous
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        >muh antiwhiteness
        have a nice day /poo/chud.

        • #164711
          Anonymous
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          dilate, literal chud
          There is nothing wrong with ingroup preference, it is natural.

          • #164713
            Anonymous
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            Cope.

          • #164748
            Anonymous
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            >it is natural
            So is cancer.

      • #164731
        Anonymous
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        you will never have an ethnostate

      • #164746
        Anonymous
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        He was somewhat racist, or at least knew how to appeal to racists.

        • #164747
          Anonymous
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          Didn’t Reagan sign into law the bill making MLK’s birthday a national holiday?

          • #164750
            Anonymous
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            Yes, but he also started one of his election campaigns in Neshoba County MS (where civil rights activists were kidnapped and murdered in a notorious incident in 1964) by talking about "states’ rights." That’s a textbook example of dog-whistle politics.

    • #164700
      Anonymous
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      And yet his policies were calculated to create a decline

    • #164702
      Anonymous
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      https://i.imgur.com/s8Q4OxY.gif

      >inb4 150 posts of LBJscrote ranting

    • #164704
      Anonymous
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      I guess this was a dig at Carter’s malaise speech.

      • #164706
        Anonymous
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        This was my first thought

    • #164714
      Anonymous
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      And was the president to give amnesty to millions of illegals in the 80s, most of whom resided in California. Which turned the state from one that was politically balanced into left stronghold.

      This new block of voters and sanctuary homes to smuggle new immigrants to that were sympathetic helped usher in the complete takeover of california in the 1990s and early 2000s when most hispanics moved into the nation and led to things like the sanctuary state open door to the United States that the state is.

      So your are citing the president that actually started the tidal wave of nonwhite immigration.

      • #164725
        Anonymous
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        It’s rather odd that leftists would fault Reagan for what a Democrat Congress and also to an extent the Supreme Court did.

        • #164727
          Anonymous
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          >leftist shitposters actually knowing anything about history

          • #164728
            Anonymous
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            Look into it. The 86 amnesty bill would have been more strict originally but the Supreme Court threw out several provisions of it.

            • #164729
              Anonymous
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              I know, the "Reagan gave amnesty" guy is literally one dude

            • #164749
              Anonymous
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              He gave amnesty because dipshit Caliscrotes whined about muh workers. Which set the stage for the current labor crisis we have now where entire millions of people undercut Americans for work because they have no legal status. Leaving us in the bonked position of 1) detain/deport (time/cost invasive), 2) another amnesty (overnight adding over 5% total to the US population and completely changing the voter base, or 3) limp around not fixing a massive diaspora problem(we have chosen this)

    • #164726
      Anonymous
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      >Iran-Contra
      >ignoring the AIDS epidemic
      >Bitberg Cemetery
      >firing air traffic controllers
      >ignoring crack ruining minority neighborhoods
      >giving tax cuts to the rich while depriving minorities of necessary social services
      >exploiting the ignorance and anti-communist paranoia of middle America

    • #164735
      Anonymous
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      You have to realize just how shitty the country was under Carter to understand what he meant by this.

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