Was American slavery a net positive for the descendants of the slaves?

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    • #63315
      Anonymous
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      Ok, slavery was bad.
      But was it a net positive for the descendants of slaves, considering they get to live in a modern first world country with guaranteed food security and access to a lot of services?

    • #63316
      Anonymous
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      Slavery was good, but it was a net negative on the descendants of slaves, precisely BECAUSE they get to live in a modern first world country with guaranteed food security and access to a lot of services.

      • #63328
        Anonymous
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        A more educated and reasoned individual could come to this conclusion.

        […]

        Midwit take but still consistent.
        Though I think its low IQ to say slavery bad because muh freedumbs.
        >self sufficient
        >well fed
        >meaningful labor
        >opportunity for social status increase

        its a very european view that every culture was stagnate before europeans came along and enlightened them

        Well, consider they barely got out of the middle ages WITH Europeans leadership.

        Being a member of an uncontacted tribal community is a better condition than living in a first world country, no matter your race.

        This is true but shitlibs who hate slavery wont admit it.
        Its fine to dislike slavery for the right reasons
        >it made tribal people conform to non-tribal society
        but its cringe to dislike slavery for the wrong reasons
        >freaking white pipo be taking me out of my mudhut and teaching me about society and technology and sheeit das racis

        • #63333
          Anonymous
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          No one wanted to live in this dystopic capitalistic hellscape you scrote. Why do you think all you white zoomers want a anarcho-primitivst paradise and larp as Ted K? Yet look down on simpler people who lived better?

          • #63341
            Anonymous
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            >why do you think all you white zoomers want a anarcho-primitivist paradise and larp as Ted K?
            Most people who did the anarcho capitalist thing were in it for the memes and I doubt most zoomies have even heard of Ted and the ones who did treat him more like a meme for edge point

      • #63331
        Anonymous
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        iirc African-Americans are worse off than the average in a fair number of sub-Saharan countries in terms of things like homicide, AIDS and I can imagine in a number of other social
        outcomes, dignity, etc.

    • #63317
      Anonymous
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      Chances are they wouldn’t even exist if their ancestors didn’t get sold to whites.
      Their ancestors would have been slaves anyway, and being sold to arabs or other africans would have been even worse.
      >considering they get to live in a modern first world country
      Would you rather be upper class in the middle ages or working class right now? There’s a degree of subjectivity in whether being an utter shitstain loathed by everybody and grown up in the most toxic of cultures is worth the greater material wealth. Not that native africans are much better off in that regard, but at least they aren’t taunted (as much) by how better off the other groups they share a country with live. I mean imagine the stress of living with the degree of seethe and envy anti-white scrotes emanate.

      • #63318
        Anonymous
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        >Would you rather be upper class in the middle ages or working class right now?
        Working class right now, who the hell would choose the former

        • #63322
          Anonymous
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          People who care more about having power over others than living in comfort.

          • #63325
            Anonymous
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            But the whole reason to get power is to have a more comfortable life

            • #63351
              Anonymous
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              You’d think so, wouldn’t you? When I was 20 or so and I watched the film "The Social Network", I couldn’t understand to save my life why he wouldn’t just sell his invention for a few million and fuck off into retirement. Why the hell would you want the hassle of running a business when you could just withdraw peacefully from society with enough money?

              Later I grew up and came to realize that Type-As seek money and power for their own sake, frequently valuing them above things like comfort. It comes down to individual temperament and what you actually value.

        • #63327
          Anonymous
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          Anyone who values social and mental comfort over physical.
          Do you think a notable in the middle ages felt less comfortable in his plushy home with servants and rents to collect than a factory worker today stressing himself to an early grave to make ends meet?

          • #63343
            Anonymous
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            >Do you think a notable in the middle ages felt less comfortable in his plushy home with servants and rents to collect than a factory worker today stressing himself to an early grave to make ends meet?

            Do you think a notable in the middle ages with eight children, three of which survived past five, with servants to feed and taxes to pay up and a cohort to keep provisioned and ready for the coming war with the guys twelve miles to the west had an easier life than a factory worker who does a somewhat menial and repetitive job for eight hours a day, five days a week, but the union gets him decent pay and bennies and spends most of his time smoking dope and playing xbox?

            YMMV no matter what time or social class you’re in.

      • #63344
        Anonymous
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        >being sold to arabs or other africans would have been even worse

        • #63346
          Anonymous
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          Yes?

          • #63348
            Anonymous
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            scrotebrain

            • #63353
              HOBCDS
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              elaborate

            • #63360
              Anonymous
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              The average 12 year old sold to an American plantation could expect to do hard labor on a farm, working from dusk till dawn, six days a week. He would live in ramshackle shelters, on licey beds either hand built with straw or if he was extremely lucky a handmedown mattress from the house, and would eat mostly scraps or what he and his fellow slaves raised themselves in what little free time they had. He would probably die in his mid 40s.

              The average 12 year old sold to an arab slaver could expect to do hard labor in a mine or a field, from the moment he got up to the moment he passed out, for the rest of his life. He lived in a tent, or perhaps a cell inside the mine, and slept on the ground. He would be feed a paste of wheat and barley once or twice a day. He would most likely not see 20.

              Yes anon, American chattel style slavery was some of the worst in recorded history. It was not, however, even the worst that was in practice at the time. White men were not raiding peaceful jungle villages for slaves, they were buying them from already existing markets. If they can be blamed for anything it was ramping up the slave trade because they bought slaves in bulk and sold guns by the crate which were used to war and capture more slaves.

    • #63319
      Anonymous
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      Painting the bullseye around the arrow.
      >Ok, Second World War was bad.
      >But was it a net positive for the descendants of people killed and maimed in it, considering they get microwave ovens and commercial jets sooner.

      • #63326
        Anonymous
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        Yes
        It’s well known that war, ironically, increases technological growth by tens of hundreds of years

        • #63330
          Anonymous
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          Bullshit. Ancient people are warring all the time and it took thousands of years to improve on chariot warfare. Steppenigs war the time and they never got past horse archer spam. Aztecs war all the time and they didn’t even develop iron weaponry.

          • #63335
            Anonymous
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            >Steppenigs war the time and they never got past horse archer spam
            Technically we modern westerners wuz steppeniggs and shieet, once upon a time.
            But yeah while war creates a strong necessity and necessity is the mother of invention, it’s still scrotebrained to claim it speeds up tech rate by centuries. No amount of warfare was gonna speed up horse breeding to the point where they could go from pulling chariots to carrying people on their back quicker than it did, it’s not like you can beat a horse into growing up quicker.

    • #63320
      Anonymous
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      I get it, we should import more third worlders into our countries. That is the only moral way.

    • #63321
      Anonymous
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      its a very european view that every culture was stagnate before europeans came along and enlightened them

      • #63324
        Anonymous
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        its a very african point of view that stagnant is spelled with only one "N"

    • #63323
      Anonymous
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      Being a member of an uncontacted tribal community is a better condition than living in a first world country, no matter your race.

    • #63329
      Anonymous
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      Ok, globalism was bad.
      But was it a net positive for the descendants of slaves, considering they get to live in an ultramodern zeroth-world country with guaranteed web security and access to a lot of Netflix?

    • #63332
      Anonymous
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      Except colonialism is currently keeping black people down and kept them from reaching their full potential as a lot of them still have a slave mentality and face defacto racism.

    • #63334
      Anonymous
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      the african slave trade was literally a masterplan by the garden gnomes, imagine how butthurt these bastards are that for thousands of years all they did was plan the extermination of their enemies, blacks were the perfect weapons for the job

      • #63336
        Anonymous
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        Another day, another /poo/ delusion.

        • #63338
          Anonymous
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          76% of all slave owners were garden gnomes

          • #63340
            Anonymous
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            And yet the vast majority of non-black ancestry in African Americans, Afro-Latinos, Afro-Caribbeans, and Afro-Canadians (that aren’t recent immigrants) all descends from English, French, and Spanish people. Very few have any Sephardic gnomish DNA.

            • #63352
              Anonymous
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              the majority of white DNA in slaves from the caribbean and north america come from females and not males, plus the slave masters being garden gnomes do not get the possibility that some poor anglo farmer bonked a slave

          • #63342
            Anonymous
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            wtf is this?

            • #63359
              Anonymous
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              buck breaking

      • #63337
        Anonymous
        Guest

        with the slave trade garden gnomes achieved:

        >mobilize millions of negroids into white nations
        >create a controlled breeding system for blacks
        >create super blacks via eugenics
        >fuck over white nation’s moral values transforming them into cucks because of slavery

      • #63339
        Anonymous
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        […]

        >We didn’t do it but if we did then it was a good thing
        Every time with /poo/

    • #63345
      Anonymous
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      >net positive
      Most slaves are in Brazil and Haiti

    • #63347
      Anonymous
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      >But was it a net positive for the descendants of slaves, considering they get to live in a modern first world country with guaranteed food security and access to a lot of services?

      And get abused, treated like shit, have their dignity constantly attacked and live in society that openly hated them.

    • #63349
      Anonymous
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      This comic would be dramatically improved if the child were depicted in the third panel as instantly falling victim to the black African slave trade.

    • #63350
      Anonymous
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      No, slavery bad. Even the Romans learned that when they had a permanent 15% unemployment rate thanks to slaves. They benefit no one but the slave owners themselves.

      • #63354
        Anonymous
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        that wasn’t innately due to slaves.

        >permanent 15% unemployment
        Isn’t actually that bad

    • #63355
      Anonymous
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      No, not really, I would argue it was a bad thing as they were given shit like railways and stuff, but never taught how to maintain that shit, so they technology got upped while their societal advancement got left behind, which is why they still have tribal loyalties and shit, badly drawn country maps without any thought made by the europeans who drew them didn’t help either as that separated said tribes behind some shitty border and they now needed to be royal to some alien concept of a country, populated by different tribes they likely hated
      If a country or peoples need to be technologically advanced, a great care must be taken or let them do it on their own with some trade, neither of which were exactly the cases with colonization

      • #63356
        Anonymous
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        >which is why they still have tribal loyalties
        Most states still have ethnic loyalties in them.

        • #63358
          Anonymous
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          And those states right now have borders that address that

    • #63357
      Anonymous
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      African Americans are 20-30 percent white from slave rape. So if no slavery it wouldnt be the same descendants. African Americans only exist because of slave rape.

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