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    • #82963
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Thoughts on Baptist Protestant Christianity?

    • #82964
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Baptists are alright. That Spurgeon guy was pretty cool.
      t. presby

    • #82965
      Anonymous
      Guest

      its ugly and full of crazy people. my family church hopped a lot so i was baptist for a while and knew a lot of baptist kids. they werent allowed to enjoy any media as kids because it was satanic/evolutionist. the adults were very elitist and looked down on anyone who wasnt baptist, i remember the day care lady slapped me when i made the sign of the cross after praying (my family was lutheran before). eventually my family just stopped going to church.

      when i got older and became interested in Christianity again i did a lot of research into various denominations, baptist theology is pretty batshit and their churches mostly devolve into small town cults where the Preacher is God. ironic because they believe "everyone is a preist" but god forbid you question the Preacher. other than the prescher the church is run by a bunch of old hens that try to dictate how everyone raises their children.

      • #83011
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Woke af Baptists trying to keep the children from being polluted by Babylon and paganism.

        • #83023
          Anonymous
          Guest

          yeah but they freaking love israel

    • #82966
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Shit theology but at least they’re socially conservative.

    • #82967
      Dirk
      Guest

      Beautiful theology and gospel centered history
      Truly reformed ecclesiology

      centerforbaptistrenewal.com/

      • #83005
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Then do so many of them tend to believe in wacky schizo shit?

    • #82968
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They are cool but Orthodox is probably more right.

      • #82970
        Pseudo-Pseudo Dionysius
        Guest

        Agreed

        […]

        I’m fairly certain prots don’t believe in the immortality of the soul. That’s an origenist doctrine.

      • #83013
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Not as long as they pray to Mary and alleged saints, gatekeep the Lord’s Supper and turn it into pagan ritual, push the "ever virgin" lies, have "priests" called "Father", bond deeply with government, on and on and on. No.

    • #82969
      Anonymous
      Guest

      […]

      JW heretic pls go

    • #82971
      Pseudo-Pseudo Dionysius
      Guest

      […]

      Heresy according to who?

    • #82974
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >jw predict world will end in 1914
      >jw predict resurrection would happen in 1925
      >jw predict armageddon in 1975

      • #82975
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Question, you agree Moses was a prophet right ?

        • #82977
          Anonymous
          Guest

          No he’s a scrote. Just like you.

          • #82979
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Say yes pls

            • #82983
              Anonymous
              Guest

              fuck off

    • #82978
      Dirk
      Guest

      JW poster doesn’t discuss. He asks leading questions and copy pastes from his cult literature. It is a waste of time.

      It literally took me 10 hours to get him to admit JW christology has no known precedent.

    • #82981
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Not as annoying as the other protestants. Still wrong of course but inoffensive. At least the black church ones are rather nice.

    • #82985
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Pseudo-Pseudo Dionysius/Dirk, you yzve to opportunity to prove me wrong

      Please humiliate me with your arguments

      Show me hell or the trinity is in the bible please

      • #82987
        Dirk
        Guest

        The trinity is defined as the view that God is three persons and there is one God. Those persons are father, son, and holy ghost.

        The fact that the bible teaches one God is explicit in the shema.
        Each of these cited verses prove each person is God.
        Ergo, trinity.

        The burden of proof is now on you to demonstrate that none of these verses indicate the person cited is God. Use the ASV which we can agree is trustworthy.

        • #82989
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Name one verse that proves Jesus is God

          Dirk has an entire thread about how you skated around how no one believed that Michael was Jesus until the 19th century. https://archived.moe/his/thread/11836181/#11838953

          You have skated around the issue of the atonement multiple times because your theology is unable to differentiate between Jesus Christ and animals sacrifices.
          https://archived.moe/his/thread/11931795#p11933069
          Furthermore, you were proven wrong that the Trinity doesn’t appear in Dialogue with Trypho.
          https://archived.moe/his/thread/11933446/#11933680
          In fact, you are seemingly unaware of what Trinitarians believe at all.
          […]
          How can we argue with you if you don’t understand and don’t want to understand our position?

          >you skated around how no one believed that Michael was Jesus until the 19th century

          The Bible writers believed it

          >You have skated around the issue of the atonement multiple times because your theology is unable to differentiate between Jesus Christ and animals sacrifices.

          What do you mean ? They’re different

          >Furthermore, you were proven wrong that the Trinity doesn’t appear in Dialogue with Trypho

          It doesn’t, Trypho says the son is different from the father

          >In fact, you are seemingly unaware of what Trinitarians believe at all.

          They believe the son, the father and the holy spirit are one

          • #82990
            Dirk
            Guest

            I gave you a table

            • #82992
              Anonymous
              Guest

              I’m not going to spend my time on each of them, so please give me just one

              >The Bible writers believed it
              You believe the Bible writers believed it. The first attestation to this is the 1800s. No one else believed what you believed.
              >What do you mean? They’re different?
              You have no substantive explanation for this, at all. You just say, "they’re different" and pretend like that solves things.
              >Trypho says the son is different from the father
              Trinitarians say the Son is different from the Father. I told you this, that it is in the Creed, and your only reply was that the Creed also says that Jesus is God. You don’t understand what Trinitarians mean when they say God is one; you impose your own definition. Hopefully you are simply ignorant, in which case you should stop talking about it, because if you are unwilling to learn what Trinitarians actually think you are misleading people away from God.

              >The first attestation to this is the 1800s

              No it’s in the Bible

              >You have no substantive explanation for this, at all. You just say, "they’re different" and pretend like that solves things.

              I don’t get your question

              >Trinitarians say the Son is different from the Father. I told you this, that it is in the Creed, and your only reply was that the Creed also says that Jesus is God. You don’t understand what Trinitarians mean when they say God is one; you impose your own definition. Hopefully you are simply ignorant, in which case you should stop talking about it, because if you are unwilling to learn what Trinitarians actually think you are misleading people away from God.

              Jesus and God are two different people. That’s quite a simple concept to understand, I think. Aren’t you and your father are different people ? Same with Jesus and his father

              • #82993
                Dirk
                Guest

                Every one of them proves trinitarianism. The burden of proof is on you to disprove every one.

                • #82994
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Ok, give me one verse at a time then

                  • #82995
                    Dirk
                    Guest

                    You can read

                    • #82996
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      What verse do you want to deal with first ?

                      • #82997
                        Dirk
                        Guest

                        I do not care
                        You’re trying to get the last word so you don’t have to follow through. You’re avoiding the issue.

                        I’ve already predicted exactly how this would play out, you don’t discuss but instead ask leading questions then paste from your cult literature

              • #82998
                Pseudo-Pseudo Dionysius
                Guest

                >No it’s in the Bible
                If it were the plain reading of the text, why did no one believe until the 1800s?
                >I don’t get your question
                My question is what is substantively different about Jesus’s atonement vs animal atonement if both are not adopting our natures? It seems like your Christological position has no ability to distinguish between these two, which is why you should adopt Orthodox Christology, which has an explanation.
                >Jesus and God are two different people
                All Orthodox Trinitarians believe there are three hypostasis in the Godhead. The thing is that you don’t understand what Trinitarians mean when they say that Jesus is God or that God is one. You impose your own definitions on us and then strawman our positions. That’s the problem.

                • #82999
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  >why did no one believe until the 1800s?

                  How do you know that ? I don’t think there are any 2nd or 3rd century writings discussing Michael

                  >My question is what is substantively different about Jesus’s atonement vs animal atonement if both are not adopting our natures?

                  Jesus was a perfect man, he could cover the sins of all imperfect humans

                  Animals couldn’t do that

                  >All Orthodox Trinitarians believe there are three hypostasis in the Godhead

                  Ok ? I only believe the bible

                  I do not care
                  You’re trying to get the last word so you don’t have to follow through. You’re avoiding the issue.

                  I’ve already predicted exactly how this would play out, you don’t discuss but instead ask leading questions then paste from your cult literature

                  Are you saying the jw literature is wrong ?

                  • #83000
                    Pseudo-Pseudo Dionysius
                    Guest

                    >How do you know that ?
                    Because we have no writings on this, you have not provided any.
                    >Jesus was a perfect man, he could cover the sins of all imperfect humans. Animals couldn’t do that
                    You don’t believe Jesus took on our human flesh. Why do Jesus was able to do what animals were not able to if taking on our flesh doesn’t matter? You just say things like, "he could" and, "animals can’t" but this isn’t substantive. This is merely you restating your own beliefs.
                    >Ok ? I only believe the bible
                    This is why people say you debate in bad faith. This is just moving the goal posts. I proved that you don’t understand the Trinity, and you reply with a non-sequitur.

                    • #83003
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >Because we have no writings on this, you have not provided any.

                      So you don’t know what early christians believed

                      I know since it’s in the bible

                      >You don’t believe Jesus took on our human flesh

                      I do though

                      >Why do Jesus was able to do what animals were not able to if taking on our flesh doesn’t matter?

                      Because he was a perfect man

                      >You just say things like, "he could" and, "animals can’t" but this isn’t substantive. This is merely you restating your own beliefs.

                      The life of an animal isn’t equal to that of a human

                      >This is why people say you debate in bad faith. This is just moving the goal posts. I proved that you don’t understand the Trinity, and you reply with a non-sequitur.

                      What did you want me to respond ?

                    • #83004
                      Dirk
                      Guest

                      Stop taking the bait
                      Make him stay on one issue. Every time you answer a bait question he sees an opportunity to ask another bait question or give some pithy comment

                  • #83002
                    Dirk
                    Guest

                    I presented an argument for the trinity an HOUR ago and you have refused to even attempt to respond
                    I’m not entertaining any questions from you unless you first admit you cannot refute my proof for the trinity from the bible

          • #82991
            Pseudo-Pseudo Dionysius
            Guest

            >The Bible writers believed it
            You believe the Bible writers believed it. The first attestation to this is the 1800s. No one else believed what you believed.
            >What do you mean? They’re different?
            You have no substantive explanation for this, at all. You just say, "they’re different" and pretend like that solves things.
            >Trypho says the son is different from the father
            Trinitarians say the Son is different from the Father. I told you this, that it is in the Creed, and your only reply was that the Creed also says that Jesus is God. You don’t understand what Trinitarians mean when they say God is one; you impose your own definition. Hopefully you are simply ignorant, in which case you should stop talking about it, because if you are unwilling to learn what Trinitarians actually think you are misleading people away from God.

    • #82986
      Anonymous
      Guest

      You have 20 seconds to show me hell and the trinity are in the bible before I go to bed

    • #83001
      Anonymous
      Guest

      What kind? It’s such a broad umbrella and they don’t play well with each other? Dutch Reformed? Reformed? First Baptist? Southern Baptist? Non-denoms (funded by Southern Baptists)? Free Will Baptist? Primitive Baptist? Independent Baptists? Fellowship Baptists? Central Baptists? Missionary Baptists? United Baptists? Old Regular Baptists? To just say "Baptist" is a misnomer.

    • #83006
      Anonymous
      Guest

      a lot of black people
      they claim to speak to snakes
      they are usually very poor

    • #83007
      Dirk
      Guest

      To recap: JW poster demanded proof of the trinity
      Proof was shared
      He avoided talking about it then entirely abandoned the discussion

    • #83008
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Full disclosure, not a Christian (I’d describe myself as a theistic leaning agnostic); but I grew up in a Baptist family, so Baptists as a whole are okay in my view. Plus Protestantism makes more sense to me than Catholicism or Orthodox when it comes to Christianity.
      It’s beyond me why Evangelicals (especially Baptists in the South) have such a fixation on Israel however. Plus the circumcision thing: it’s prevalent in the South and it’s nuts to me that a lot of Baptist parents have their kids circumcised like they’re gnomish.
      I also think that the more fundamentalist, Biblically literalist ones that think Earth is only 6,000 years old and we lived with dinos are sorta nuts, but not all Baptists are like that.

    • #83009
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I am not aware of any Protestant Baptists, they must be somewhere else in the country if they exist.

      I am only aware of Baptist denomination, which is not completely unified, neither are any denomination completely in agreement that the Bible is God’s Word and authority.

      I grew up with baptists and saw other baptist churches didn’t all believe the same things. I saw Roman Catholic Churches were satanic and accusing all other churches as being not real churches. They said other churches don;t make the sign of the cross before they enter, so it isn’t a real church. Roman Catholics aren’t even Christian, they are Satan which is why they accuse the real churches thinking it helps God to attack God’s people. Just like ancient times in Israel. Caleb and Joshua and all them said that they would run the non-Israelies off the sidewalks if they were on the same path, boldly threatening violence if they were trying their satanic bullshit. When Caleb had children and all died of old age, the Lord said Israel became harassed and persecuted because they didn’t know to threaten the enemy in boldness. So the enemy slandered Israel and taught them to worship false gods. The sin was not in being weak but was in that they decided to stay in their sins once the Lors got them off of them. So the Lord decided to let them be devoured by their own sins.

      We will destroy the enemy utterly. God is going to do it for us.

      The only thing baptists I grew up around ever did wrong was die and let enemies take over leadership instead of have new baptists take over. Otherwise in their leadership they kept the same leadership as the apostles themselves. They can be brutish or sin and think theirselves are more important than they are, but there is a pastor character in Half-Life 2 that leads players through a headcrab zombie city of Ravenholme and baptists can be a little like him. Just not as Orthodox Catholic and Russian. Most baptists would have left to the country by now

      • #83010
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >muh trail of blood
        >muh anderson
        >muh kjv

        • #83012
          Anonymous
          Guest

          No, I don’t know who Anderson is.

          The other two items here are biblical and given by God Himself.

          • #83016
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >some meme book about baptists was given by God himself
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trail_of_Blood

            • #83019
              Anonymous
              Guest

              No, we don’t need the book itself, but it is like the world book of history that has all the biblical lineages of Adam to modern day. The Bible talks about the blood of the righteous. Which is an actual blood trail, the baptist trail of blood is just a modern day extension of this using the same concept.

              Getting weird responses from New World Order people though after my comment. Probably salivating over the thought of infiltrating the Baptist church denomination even though it already has some.

            • #83022
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Oh, I see where Jack Chick got his pseudo-history from now, thanks.

      • #83015
        Anonymous
        Guest

        OMG this & BLESSED & CHECKED 66 BOOKS OF THE HOLY BIBLE

      • #83020
        Dirk
        Guest

        All baptists are protestant

        • #83024
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Nope, you bought a scrotebrained lie from the devil. Caleb would either kill or maim you for saying Israel is not the nation of the true God. These days, we will run you over.

          • #83025
            Anonymous
            Guest

            What the fuck are you talking about? Do you think "Baptist Catholics" exist? "Orthodox Baptists"?

        • #83027
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Protestant means they are protesting the catholic church. The person you replied to here sounds like he is anabaptist which existed before catholics, They don’t have to be labeled by continuously having a chip on their shoulder about catholicism or something. They were the true church that followed Christ. Think Menonites, Amish, and many others even catholics can be in Christ, but the catholic authority has and always will be corrupt due to their hierarchy and worship of the priests.

          http://baptisthistoryhomepage.com/larkin.clarence.history.baptists.html

          • #83029
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Protestants protest other Protestants too. In the case of Baptists, they began when John Smyth was protesting the doctrines of the Church of England, which is Anglican Protestant.

            • #83031
              Anonymous
              Guest

              The point that baptists are capable of protesting things they disagree with is really moot, though.

            • #83033
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Nope Christ’s church existed before he even builded it upon a rock of offense. It exists outside of time with God and doesn’t need to have a date set for when the church began. Neither does Satan, but the church is above that of the angels, so the church is even older than the angels. As inheritors of Jesus’ blood, we are with God in Heaven.

              • #83037
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Yes you are correct, and the Church you’re talking about is the holy Orthodox Catholic Church, established by Christ both in heaven and on earth. However the Baptist heresy is a result of English separatism, if you are a Baptist you are actually following Satan. Now please, repent of your heresy and come to Christ’s holy Orthodox Church.

                • #83038
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Nope there is no name for it but Jesus Christ, who is the husband of the church. The name of the church is simply “where any two or more are gathered in My name” My name means Jesus. Nice try Satan.

          • #83032
            Dirk
            Guest

            Anabaptists are protestant as well.
            This is an andersonite meme.

            Protestant just means the tradition is on the reformed side of the reformation. You’re getting too fixed on the English etymology.

            Have you read trail of blood? It was written at southwestern seminary. Do you think southwestern isn’t protestant?

            Protestants protest other Protestants too. In the case of Baptists, they began when John Smyth was protesting the doctrines of the Church of England, which is Anglican Protestant.

            You too
            The terms in reference to the English reformation are "independent" or "noncomformist" depending on context. English Baptists are a part of noncomformists.

            • #83034
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Labeling everyone who isn’t catholic as protestant doesn’t jive with logic. If you can explain why that is important to you so much please tell. It just sounds like you have something to protest against a church that protested the catholic a long, long, long, time ago.

              • #83035
                Dirk
                Guest

                Is that what I said?

                • #83040
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Just think about it. why does it matter that people protested catholics corruption so long ago? Not to mention they were right about it. It’s time to just let that meme go. If you are in Christ then you are in Christ, how many priests were emboldened by the Church hierarchy to molest children, and then protected by the church to allow them to continue their sin as priests and bishops. People who were uplifted and respected within the community, yet they were worse than any satanist pedophile murderer on the streets? How will they continue to allow such practice to endure? It’s like they don’t have spiritual mirrors to see themselves, hidden in a shroud of self righteousness.

                  • #83041
                    Dirk
                    Guest

                    I honestly have no idea what you’re on about

                    • #83045
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      Think about it, are all protesters anti-catholic? (no) Are all baptists today protesting and continuously hateful towards catholics? (no)

                      By all means and by God’s will may all people be able to protest evil wherever they see it. Think outside your little box for just a second.

                      We should and forever maintain the ability to protest anything we disagree with in the public square. We are protesters, protestants are a thing of the past. Get over it.

                      • #83046
                        Dirk
                        Guest

                        Is English your second language? You’re not making any sense

                      • #83047
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Haha, no English is my best language looks like you have to cope harder.

      • #83021
        Anonymous
        Guest

        What stupid LARP is this?

    • #83014
      Anonymous
      Guest

      JWposter is unironically the only poster on this board who can get Caths, Orthos, and Prots to agree on something; that something being memeing on JWposter.

      • #83018
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I see his threads even get deleted these days, getting the jannies to react is almost miraculous in itself.

    • #83017
      Anonymous
      Guest

      https://bannedpreaching.com/videos/FWBCLA/Only_One_Viewpoint_Is_Allowed.mp4
      Anyone want to let me know why there is a big sign behind Anderson that says WORKS? Did he get tired of a lazy congregation or what?

    • #83026
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The Bible has things in it that bare record, with things humans can’t see too good to understand. It does this with dates, ages, and other kinds of numbers. So what people can do is come along and take what the Bible does well, which is record these things so that they are not lost, but then portray them in a picture or a photograph that humans can understand by looking at these numbers now portrayed in understandable data. Which is what the trail of blood can be shown by, as it is completed to show all the slain and persecuted groups since even Abel perhaps that were not slain by God’s wrath but by enemies of God.

      • #83028
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Aka this is helpful, but doesn’t mean baptists came up with it. That would be like saying Abel came up with it himself. I think it is just more like a forensic thing that says Jesus’ blood is what forgives sins , not Abel’s, or slain saints of God these days or any of the thousands of years after Christ’s death, but that if anyone rejects Christ’s blood on the cross then they also reject all the righteous blood of the slain and they accept the guilty consequence and sentencing of the judge who seeth the forensic data of the blood.

        • #83030
          Anonymous
          Guest

          In other words, “us don’t want to be found guilty of rejecting the blood. It is not good news.

    • #83036
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I’m a Baptist, my church practices foot washing. I like it.

      • #83039
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Sounds dumb. If you too old to get a bathtub or regenerate then you need to just go to the next life. Let the dead bathe the dead, like Jesus said let the dead bury the dead.

        • #83043
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Jesus literally did a foot washing with the 12.

          • #83044
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Yes and I’m not trying to compete with Jesus’ servantship to get to Heaven by believing that will actually bring the kingdom of God here. Neither do I believe Heaven is a foot washing kingdom. Ever seen Jesus’ throne as at least in your own imagination and what kind of powers it has to give immortality to those around it? They started out baptizing and washing feet, but when Heaven gets here they are going to have greater powers because He goes to His Father.

      • #83042
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Woke af, the Methodist church I grew up in did that sometimes.

        • #83048
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I used to not mind when I did things for fun also, and then I watched Dragon Ball Z, and then they said it was my generation’s thing to be zoomers. Which was a lie. Goku had the Alien Regeneration Pods in which they could resurrect from the dead nearly. They also showed Goku go to Heaven and actually be stronger than God and angels and stuff, he would pretend to be respectful but then they would make sexual jokes in Heaven.

      • #83049
        Anonymous
        Guest

        My mom went to a Primitive Baptist church where they did that for a while.

        • #83050
          Anonymous
          Guest

          I wonder what it was like being made obsolete by footsoap?

          • #83051
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Humility and mutual servitude are far from obsolete.

            • #83053
              Anonymous
              Guest

              I am so glad that we can agree that you don’t have to wash someone’s sissy feet for that. Amen sis.

              • #83054
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >" For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you." John 13:15
                Exactly, Christ was only giving one "example" of how to humbly serve others – we are to do our own individual acts of humility and service in real life, not just copy-cat this feet-washing like it was some sort of ritual.

                • #83055
                  Anonymous
                  Guest
                  • #83057
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    >wash my stinky feet reeeeee

                    • #83059
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      you’re doing great in the humility department yeah

                      • #83061
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        I just wouldn’t want to touch some old persons feet no thanks

                  • #83063
                    Anonymous
                    Guest

                    Christ was allowing Mary (the other Mary) to wash His feet with expensive oils. The key takeaway I got out of that is money is nothing compared to serving Jesus. This was not a commandment that we wash each other’s feet. you can certainly do that if you wish.

                    St Paul reiterated how we ought to perform the communion service, but never mentioned anything about "feet washing" because that was never supposed to be adopted as a ritual. Instead, St Paul wrote this:
                    >" Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ." Galatians 6:1-2
                    That’s what it’s about. Now wash your own feet and stop being goofy.

                    • #83064
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >Paul > Jesus

                      • #83065
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Not him, but he said stop being goofy. What he meant was stop beguiling of the saints into false humility of your own making from evil fruit. You saw the word Baptist and decided to grow evil fruit and tell people they have to Baptist feet in order to be saved.

                        >Colossians 2:14-19 14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

                        >16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.

                      • #83066
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >Minimum requirements for salvation is all that really matters, no need to actually follow Jesus to one’s fullest ability

                      • #83067
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        Yes actually, the smallest requirementee is called a child, and they are greatest in Heaven since they don[t have to think about how to do anything the hard way.

                        >1 Corinthians 13:1 NASB If I speak with the tongues of mankind and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.

                      • #83070
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        When Luke Skywalker called out to his dad for help, the movie did not even have to reveal that Luke was using the force to pray to God for help to defeat the evil emperor. It was too over the writing’s head, and over the head of the Star Wars Chinese corporate feminist eastern mystic agenda. That was because it was ‘t the force that Luke used but he didn’t use the force and instead said his prayers to God and the only way that works of if someone pleads the blood of Jesus. That is why the emperor went up as smoke in a chimney.
                        Hosea 13:2-3 kjv 2And now they sin more and more, and have made them molten images of their silver, and idols according to their own understanding, all of it the work of the craftsmen: they say of them, Let the men that sacrifice kiss the calves. 3Therefore they shall be as the morning cloud, and as the early dew that passeth away, as the chaff that is driven with the whirlwind out of the floor, and as the smoke out of the chimney.

                      • #83071
                        Anonymous
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                      • #83073
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        What kind of answer is this? Nasb’s version of 1 Corinthians 13:1 just changes charity to love, and sounding brass to noisy gong, and tinkling cymbal to clanging cymbal. It is a good translation but I know what the KJV says. How about stop using LULZ for your own amusement, this is a place for sharing.

                      • #83074
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        St Paul and Jesus are in agreement, so don’t try to make them disagree just so you can swap foot fungus with the people at your "church."

                • #83056
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Christ was allowing Mary (the other Mary) to wash His feet with expensive oils. The key takeaway I got out of that is money is nothing compared to serving Jesus. This was not a commandment that we wash each other’s feet. you can certainly do that if you wish.

                  • #83058
                    Anonymous
                    Guest
                    • #83096
                      Anonymous
                      Guest

                      >https://biblehub.com/kjv/john/13.htm
                      And the key take away from that is no matter how much you wash someone’s feet they can still be unclean.

                      • #83097
                        Anonymous
                        Guest

                        >cleaning the other person was the goal and point of the exercise
                        Wrong, and the fact that Judas was allowed to participate and had even his feet washed points to ever deeper aspects. He was also allowed to participate in the Lord’s Supper, which Catholics and Orthodox gate keep.

    • #83052
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Baptist is the true White man’s religion.

    • #83062
      Anonymous
      Guest
    • #83076
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >The saints should wash feet, like little girls should worship the queen of England, and not the queen of England serve her people.
      Countless such cases of the queen being mean to little girls.

    • #83078
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It’s full of people who go to church for 1 hour a week and then live the rest of the time a completely secular existence other than the occasional anti-intellectual stupidity statement about evolution.

      • #83095
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >this is any different for any "denomination"

    • #83081
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I stopped being Christian years ago but none of my family knows because I can still speak the language and go through the motions of the church when I come to visit. That should say a lot about what it’s really interested in.

    • #83092
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >sola scriptura
      At least they tend to be conservative in their politics, though.

    • #83098
      Dirk
      Guest

      still waiting

      • #83099
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Pretty sure JW just made some cringe thread about the trinity that got no responses.

      • #83100
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Me too

        Pick a verse

        • #83103
          Dirk
          Guest

          Start wherever you want

          • #83104
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Sure

            Pick a verse

            • #83106
              Dirk
              Guest

              Why haven’t you? Its been 23 hours since I gave you my argument that YOU asked for

              The trinity is defined as the view that God is three persons and there is one God. Those persons are father, son, and holy ghost.

              The fact that the bible teaches one God is explicit in the shema.
              Each of these cited verses prove each person is God.
              Ergo, trinity.

              The burden of proof is now on you to demonstrate that none of these verses indicate the person cited is God. Use the ASV which we can agree is trustworthy.

              I’ve repeatedly invited you to approach it from wherever you want

              Before any of this happened I predicted exactly what you would do, avoid discussion and ask leading questions

              • #83107
                Anonymous
                Guest

                I asked one verse at a time

                Give me the verse ! (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡━

                • #83109
                  Dirk
                  Guest

                  I will not meet your arbitrary demands
                  You asked for proof of the trinity and I provided it

                  You can criticize the proof beginning anywhere. I recommend the row that reads "is called God"

                  Acting faux upset is not cute and it’s not having your desired effect of looking less like an ass. You have no credibility here and you actively make people dislike the JW religion I hope you know.

                • #83116
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  Not them but please shut the fuck up pooping up threads, scrote:

                  >Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

    • #83101
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They make *theists seethe because their parents tried to guide them into being normal human beings. Now they’re shitposting on LULZ while waiting for their boomer parents to die

    • #83108
      Anonymous
      Guest

      They should simply begome gadolig. However, I do thoroughly enjoy Spurgeon and a few others even if I disagree with some of their specific theology.

    • #83110
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Protestant Christianity
      Not actual christianity, but satanic moloch worship

    • #83111
      Anonymous
      Guest

      > I recommend the row that reads "is called God

      John 1:1
      The Authentic New Testament
      “In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God. So the Word was divine.”

      It doesn’t call Jesus God, it calls him divine. There’s no article in the koine.

      John 1:14
      Berean Literal Bible
      "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we beheld His glory, a glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."

      Nowhere does it say anything about Jesus being God though ? It simply says he became flesh and came from the Father

      John 1:18
      "Young’s Literal Translation
      God no one hath ever seen; the only begotten Son, who is on the bosom of the Father — he did declare"

      Ok ? What am I seeing here ?

      Colossians 2:9
      "English Standard Version
      For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,"

      Yes Jesus is a deity, he came from heaven. I could have lost the argument if he was called Almighty God but it’s not the case

      Hebrews 1:8
      New American Standard Bible
      "But regarding the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE SCEPTER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM."

      This shows that Jesus’ throne, his office or authority as a sovereign, has its source in Jehovah !

      Titus 2:13
      King James Bible
      "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;"

      this verse clearly differentiates between him and Christ Jesus, the one through whom God provides salvation"

      >you actively make people dislike the JW religion

      Because I asked questions ? Interesting

      • #83112
        Dirk
        Guest

        Don’t pick and choose translations. Use the ASV like I asked 24 hours ago.

        • #83113
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Use the ASV

          Why ?

          • #83114
            Dirk
            Guest

            Did you read my post with the table?

      • #83115
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Because I asked questions ? Interesting
        I’m sorry dude, but if you really think that is the only reason why you make jw look bad, and not the fact that you pullute perfectly fine threads with your drawings and poor arguments, then you are truly a dumb person.

    • #83119
      Anonymous
      Guest

      protestantism is a fraud

    • #83121
      Dirk
      Guest

      maybe JW poster was banned

      • #83122
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Let us pray, amen.

      • #83123
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I hope so.

    • #83124
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It’s the truth

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