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September 24, 2021 at 6:11 am #72449
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GuestThe whole Linux scene is such a shitshow for anyone who wants some kind of macOS replacement. I’ve used Linux for several years before realizing how much time it wastes and stress it causes
No distro is able to fit 3 parameters. Stable, fast, and not-shit-design. Ubuntu just got slower and uglier. Elementuary OS is unstable and slow. There’s almost no reason to use Linux from day to day
On macOS I have a sensible and polished OS that works and looks nice out of the box. It’s not as fast as it could be but does the job. With Linux this doesn’t exist. If your distro works it probably looks like shit from 20 years ago. Fanboys will argue that it’s your job to spend hours customizing it to something not ugly. With macOS I get UI designed by people who have even the smallest sense of style
If you have a problem with a distro it’s your fault for not knowing everything. It works on myachine so that means it should work on yours automatically and you’re doing things wrong
There is no one Linux OS. There are multiple shitty attempts. If the community focused on one distro we could have something on par with macOS. But nothing can compete because the casual user isn’t in mind. It’s made for people who want to spend hours tinkering with broken parts that keep breaking
It’s funny how a lot of people just argue macOS sucks and Linux gives privacy. I’m practically trading my computer for a toy using Linux. If privacy even is that real on Linux, it’s the only asset it has. It can’t compete with macOS. I don’t even have to argue that macOS has software and games against Linux because that would be murder by freaking words
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September 24, 2021 at 6:14 am #72452
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GuestHow can you even work on electrobloat on a potato spec mac?
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September 24, 2021 at 6:16 am #72472
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September 24, 2021 at 9:47 am #72558
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Guest>KDE
>stable
>fast
been using it for years and it’s anything but that. I simply don’t give a damn and I refuse to get accustomed to something new after all this time.-
September 24, 2021 at 9:50 am #72559
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GuestI assume you haven’t used it in year since then? Seems stable and fast enough for Valve/Steam to use it on their upcoming handheld.
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September 24, 2021 at 10:00 am #72560
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GuestI wouldn’t know what Steam is doing, but I moved away from KDE somewhere in late 2019 and settled for xfce DE and so far I have no complaints.
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September 24, 2021 at 10:45 am #72565
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Guest>I refuse to get accustomed to something new
This is your average MacOS user.-
September 24, 2021 at 12:46 pm #72591
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Guestwhy would you trade something usable out of the box with shitdows or loonix
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September 24, 2021 at 6:24 am #72474
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Guestworks on my machine
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September 24, 2021 at 6:26 am #72476
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Guestworks on my machine.
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September 24, 2021 at 3:16 pm #72602
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Guestdidn’t work on mine, unfortunately
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September 24, 2021 at 6:28 am #72478
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Guest>stable
lts
>fast
trolling
>not-shit-design
It’s literally the design you make lmao -
September 24, 2021 at 6:30 am #72480
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GuestKDE Neon just works
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September 24, 2021 at 6:44 am #72503
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September 24, 2021 at 7:13 am #72509
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Guestnice and modern just how i like it
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September 24, 2021 at 7:14 am #72511
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Guestcringe
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September 24, 2021 at 7:15 am #72513
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Guest>babby mode distro
just go back to macos scrote
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September 24, 2021 at 7:30 am #72515
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Guestthis
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September 24, 2021 at 8:06 am #72542
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Guestlinux mint is good and youre just traumatized
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September 24, 2021 at 9:06 am #72554
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Guest>waaaaaa!!!! you aren’t running asmerogona linux where you compile everything from source and then turn it into a binary and then break it down into source before you install a desktop environment!!!
not everybody’s a tinkerer, and most people just want something that they don’t have to worry about. quit being a fuckin elitist over operating systems
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September 24, 2021 at 9:44 am #72557
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Guest>not everybody’s a tinkerer
why are you on LULZ?-
September 24, 2021 at 1:06 pm #72597
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GuestWorks on my machine, sorry you got filtered.
your fault for not knowing
>f your distro works it probably looks like shit from 20 years ago
I wish my desktop worked this well and looked this nice 20 years ago, On the other hand macOS’ desktop does feel like a desktop form 20 years back, with some fancy visual effects and styling slapped on top.
>people who have even the smallest sense of style
But no sense of functionality. GNU/Linux is simple by default and powerful when needed. macOS is simple by default and that’s it. A simple OS for simple minds.
>it’s your fault for not knowing
Yes. There is documentation. You should read it
>there is no one Linux OS
Which is expected, the kernel is only one part of a functional operating system.
>the casual user isn’t in mind
Good, since when is expecting users to know what they’re doing a bad thing?
>trading my computer for a toy using Linux
And i’m trading mine for a brick when using macOS, this garbage doesn’t support anything in my computer besides my NIC and video card. What a joke.
>macOS has software
GNU/Linux has all the software I need.
>macOS has games
If all you play is angry birds and whatever else ARMshit is meant for, sure. Anything beyond that requires emulating x86 and running direct3d on top of vulkan on top of metal.>TL:DR
OP is a scrote as usual, of the mac variety, no less. Take your fruity toys and GTFO.I’ve been a full time programmer for 5 years and cannot imagine using GNU+Linux for my 9-5. A couple times a year I check in on some distros with some spare laptops I have and every time it’s an awful experience, like regressing 20 years of personal computing developments.
It’s a shame, too, because macOS has increasingly gotten worse since apple seems to care less about it, focusing more on iOS.
OpenBSD really is the only good OS remaining but I need to buy the EXACT correct hardware for everything to work ootb. Maybe I will once I need a new machine or if macOS continues to go down the shitter.
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September 24, 2021 at 1:12 pm #72598
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Guest>OpenBSD really is the only good OS
stopped reading
2/10
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September 24, 2021 at 7:12 am #72507
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Guestyou were building a solid case for the first two paragraphs, everything else is just archaic reiterated bullshit
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September 24, 2021 at 7:49 am #72517
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Guestwerkz on my machine
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September 24, 2021 at 8:34 am #72546
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GuestUnironically popOS. It has a uniform and decent out of the box look while being stable since it’s woke af on ubuntu. It’s also nice to have an ISO version pre-bundeled with Nvidia drivers. Most DEs are memes besides GNOME if you want a "it just werks" replacment for Win/MacOS enviroments. Even though it’s compareably slower than most of the other gazillion DEs, even the big ones like KDE/XFCE, it can actually handle multiple monitors and scaling properly.
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September 24, 2021 at 8:51 am #72549
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Guestinstalled Ubuntu last week to replace Windows 10:
>recovery partitions were damaged despite no message or warning that other partitions will be affected other than specified ones
ok not so bad, after all why would I need recovery when it just works!?>torrenting doesn’t work out of the box, needs 30 minutes of tinkering with settings and .config files
>Steam doesn’t work out of the box, needs 2 hours of tinkering with settings and .config files
>for some reason programs acquired through apt can be additionally acquired through Ubuntu Software, both versions breaking each others functionality
>for some reason purged programs still leave packages behind
still not so bad, after all now everything is set up and I’m good to go!?>start movie
>black colors are so black I can’t see what’s going on
>sound is so quiet I can barely hear anything
>troubleshoot problems
>only find very old solutions, needing tinkering with .config files and acquiring new packages
>at one point says ‘apt autoremove’ is recommended
>autoremoves packages that were required by NVIDIA drivers
>now dedicated graphics card doesn’t work
>reacquire drivers, functionality is there but X Server still doesn’t offer same settings as before
>movies are still unwatchable
oh well, at least everyday operations will go smoothly, right?>try to access second hard drive for my everyday files
>it actually needs to be mounted every time I want to use it
>programs don’t remember file locations of mounted devices, have to manually direct it every time
>ImageMagick is now the default image viewing program, never installed it myself, how did it get here??
>Ubuntu Software needs 5-10 seconds for literally any action
>get ‘headphone connected’ message that blocks the login button every time after wake up despite not having headphones or speakers attached
>get ‘volume control’ window open at the center of the screen every time when adjusting volume during a movie (not that I can actually watch one)
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September 24, 2021 at 8:52 am #72550
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GuestmacOS doesn’t have these loonix problems
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September 24, 2021 at 8:55 am #72551
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Guest>getting filtered
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September 24, 2021 at 9:01 am #72552
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GuestGnu+Linux distributions will never be accessible this way for normal people, even IF all those issues are fixable
the Steam Deck launch will be a giant shitshow and it will be glorious
people think they’ll get a console that can play video games out of the box?? LMAO I doubt it
looking forward to Valve finally crashing and burningI know but I have/had a second Windows machine because I love gaymen and now that Steam is going to release their Steam Deck I thought maybe MAYBE Gnu+Linux is ready for me using it to casually browse the web, watch movies and play games. apparently that’s too much to ask
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September 24, 2021 at 9:32 am #72556
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Guestif google could maje linux wirk why cant valve?
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September 24, 2021 at 12:34 pm #72585
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Guest>people think they’ll get a console that can play video games out of the box?? LMAO I doubt it
Yeah, that’s the whole point of it and the results of a decade long effort made by Valve to make this joke of an OS a viable alternative to Windows.
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September 24, 2021 at 9:31 am #72555
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Guest>>torrenting doesn’t work out of the box, needs 30 minutes of tinkering with settings and .config files
>>Steam doesn’t work out of the box, needs 2 hours of tinkering with settings and .config files
Can you name some of these supposed config files and settings you changed in this story that totally happened? I’m dying to know.Neither does Linux, this is a made-up story.
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September 24, 2021 at 11:11 am #72578
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GuestYou are scrotebrained, there are tools to use that just work. You are too stupid to look at the repos to find them.
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September 24, 2021 at 10:38 am #72562
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GuestHave you tried fedora, anon?
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September 24, 2021 at 10:42 am #72563
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Guest*tips fedora*
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September 24, 2021 at 10:43 am #72564
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GuestI agree with you, the only usable Linux experience is xfce, kde can sort of pass if you’re okay with rebooting daily/weekly and the weird bugs kde comes along with. Gnome is only for those who use just a web browser and maybe one other app, its also perfectly usable for Linux YouTubers which is why gnome gets so much praise online but honestly the only real usable and perfectly stable environment is xfce at the end of the day, yes it looks like trash by default but you can easily theme it ( just make sure to pick good themes so you don’t get weird black text on black bg or white text on white bg – me personally I use the adwaita themes since they are the most consistent / usable / bug free.)
All in all though, kde/gnome/twms are all memes and most people who want to work actually use xfce.
t. an anon who’s been using Linux as his primary OS for 8 years.
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September 24, 2021 at 10:47 am #72566
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Guest>muh "not-shit-design"
That’s your problem. You fell for the memes. A fully-pozzed integrated GUI experience is unfeasible in the FOSS world. It’s too much work, because such things are bullshit piled upon bullshit. It requires constant maintenance from a team of professionals, like the body of a post-op chud. It is at odds with the essence of the computer. It is a sandcastle made of sand. -
September 24, 2021 at 10:54 am #72567
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GuestWhat’s the most stable UI that has a file picker in linux?
Xfce? I dont care about ricing, if it looks like freaking windows 98 I dont care either.
I just want an UI stable, fast and with basic features such as a file picker, search, and a menu where I can put shortcuts -
September 24, 2021 at 10:54 am #72568
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GuestHave you tried filing a bug report?
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September 24, 2021 at 11:03 am #72572
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GuestWorks on my machine, sorry you got filtered.
your fault for not knowing
>f your distro works it probably looks like shit from 20 years ago
I wish my desktop worked this well and looked this nice 20 years ago, On the other hand macOS’ desktop does feel like a desktop form 20 years back, with some fancy visual effects and styling slapped on top.
>people who have even the smallest sense of style
But no sense of functionality. GNU/Linux is simple by default and powerful when needed. macOS is simple by default and that’s it. A simple OS for simple minds.
>it’s your fault for not knowing
Yes. There is documentation. You should read it
>there is no one Linux OS
Which is expected, the kernel is only one part of a functional operating system.
>the casual user isn’t in mind
Good, since when is expecting users to know what they’re doing a bad thing?
>trading my computer for a toy using Linux
And i’m trading mine for a brick when using macOS, this garbage doesn’t support anything in my computer besides my NIC and video card. What a joke.
>macOS has software
GNU/Linux has all the software I need.
>macOS has games
If all you play is angry birds and whatever else ARMshit is meant for, sure. Anything beyond that requires emulating x86 and running direct3d on top of vulkan on top of metal.>TL:DR
OP is a scrote as usual, of the mac variety, no less. Take your fruity toys and GTFO. -
September 24, 2021 at 11:06 am #72573
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Guestinteresting argument, but reddit spacing
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September 24, 2021 at 11:14 am #72580
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GuestI’m sorry to hear that you’re scrotebrained. Have you considered suicide?
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September 24, 2021 at 11:21 am #72581
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Guest>They are coming
glhf with these scrotebrains
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September 24, 2021 at 12:35 pm #72586
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Guesttl;dr
OP could have used all the time he spent on writing that post fixing all his linux problems and implement HDR support with the spare time left. -
September 24, 2021 at 12:38 pm #72588
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GuestUnironically fedora + gnome just werks
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September 24, 2021 at 12:41 pm #72589
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GuestI believe this is bait.
But I’d like to answer your thread nevertheless.
I think there’s a lot of bad designs in GNU/Linux, but it’s a community non-profit driven thing (generally).
Sure, it’s not an excuse to put out a subpar (sometimes) product, compared to other things in the market.
But also, there is all kinds of people, some people have the time to tinker with their computer, and some people enjoy it too.
There’s really nothing inherently wrong with being fascinated with technology, yes even the silly things about configuring and stuff, really do make you learn in some shape or form.
And honestly as a Linux user I find nothing wrong with using Windows at all, in fact, I simply encourage it, since it’s the user the one that matters on that decision.
At the end of the day, if you’re gonna complain about this, you should try encouraging some change in a constructive manner, not posting on some anonymous board.
Serious people do things, ignorants simply talk, think, and end up doing nothing.
And to be honest, despite feeling ashamed of it, I am the latter kind of person.-
September 24, 2021 at 12:46 pm #72590
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Guestmeds
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September 24, 2021 at 12:59 pm #72595
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Guestthis blog is gay, how do i unsubscribe?
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September 24, 2021 at 12:59 pm #72596
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GuestYour problem OP, is you expected Windows interfaces on a free system that people put their personal time and effort into. Rather than bitching, get off your covid-timebomb ass and make something. Contribute. Be the change you want.
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September 24, 2021 at 3:11 pm #72601
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Guest>No distro is able to fit 3 parameters. Stable, fast, and not-shit-design
Then install stable and fast distro and change desktop environment to whatever you like?
You are using Linux, you can customize it you know?
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