Technically speaking, is “right click saving as” stealing?

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    • #158983
      Anonymous
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      Technically speaking, is "right click saving as" stealing?

    • #158984
      Anonymous
      Guest

      no

      • #158991
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Fuck no.

        Oh haha I’m just right click saving every frame of this hollywood movie and uploading it to youtube… wh-what Banned? NOOO ITS NOT STEALING ITS JUST COPYING WITHOUT PERMISSION ITS DIFFERENT

        • #159002
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >Oh haha I’m just right click saving every frame of this hollywood movie and uploading it to youtube
          People stopped bothering with that really since they know it wouldn’t stay up, so that’s not really a great example.

        • #159004
          Anonymous
          Guest

          That’s a bad example and you should feel bad for posting.

        • #159006
          Anonymous
          Guest

          scrote

        • #159035
          Anonymous
          Guest

          youtube can do what they want and so can i.

        • #159036
          Anonymous
          Guest

          YouTube doesn’t ban you for ‘stealing’, and whether they ban you or not is not indicative of whether an action counts as stealing.

          >if Allah doesn’t exist, then why do kaffirs het their heads lobbed off?
          Same energy

        • #159040
          Anonymous
          Guest

          You’re right, it’s not theft because they gave you permission to copy their bits to your computer to be displayed. It has to be stored on your computer to be displayed. It’s an enforceable copyright violation to then retransmit it to YouTube. Copyright violation is not theft, it’s its own crime.

          • #159075
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Wrong.
            The service only allows you to use those bits to display them in very specific circumstances.
            Any other usage of those bits, including but not limited to copying them from the application-defined temporary storage to another location on your or another computer, is a violation of either the ToS or the EULA or some other legal bullshit.

            • #159078
              Anonymous
              Guest

              did I sign a gawddamn waiver to view the image, if the answer is no, then its unenforceable , its like putting up a hotdog stand on the street, with your custom bun designs, and then trying to sue people for taking pictures of it.

              • #159085
                Anonymous
                Guest

                Have you never seen a sign like "By using this service, you agree to…"?
                In the same way as you don’t need to sign a gawddamn waiver for the laws of a country to apply to you, you don’t need to sign a gawddamn waiver for the terms of service to apply to you.

                Although you are correct in that it is largely unenforceable.
                Unless you commit another crime at the same time, like copyright infringement, the worst they can do is terminate your account.
                And that’s only if they can prove that you violated the terms, which they usually won’t be bonked to bother with.

                What you should really worry about is that they don’t only do punishment, they also do prevention. It’s a neverending arms race between DRM developers and crackers.
                From tiny tricks like disabling right-clicking on an element in a website, to more and more elaborate schemes.

                Recently I was shocked to see a google spreadsheet with copying and saving disabled. I really wanted it offline so I almost resorted to screenshotting all of it piece by small piece, but I found that exporting to static HTML <table>s wasn’t disabled so I saved it that way.

            • #159079
              Anonymous
              Guest

              This right here, this is the true issue facing digital distribution. Rather than owning a digital asset, a user is permitted access to the content via an authorized third party. If Amazon sells an ebook to someone, the buyer is only entitled to the ability to access the content of the ebook, but in the way Amazon allows it to happen. This is the real issue facing digital distribution, the rules setup via software to enforce abitrary copyright restrictions with deny the user their freedoms.

        • #159081
          Anonymous
          Guest

          saving to your own pc is not the same as uploading to youtube
          while you watch a copyrighted movie on netflix, its saving frames on your pc too

          is literally everyone these days on LULZ a 12 year old zoomer?

        • #159083
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Here’s the difference: a movie is being sold as a product, images online usually aren’t. Even copying a movie is generally okay as long as you aren’t distributing it (I’m not making a moral argument, just going off of how the law tells it).
          If I save an image online, I probably didn’t have to pay to access it. Saving it and distributing it doesn’t cause the artist to experience a loss.
          The scrote in the OP is most-likely talking about NFT, in which case he’s a scrotebrain for investing money in JPGs

    • #158985
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Fuck no.

    • #158986
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Artist are such pieces of shit nowadays

    • #158987
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Technically speaking, is "right click saving as" stealing?
      Just pirated your post, fuck you nerd lmao

    • #158988
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I get my images by finding the URL in the web inspector and then feeding it into wget
      get rekt right click artshitters

      • #158996
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I just take screenshots lmao
        yes I download all my furry porn from twitter this way

        • #159099
          Anonymous
          Guest

          show an example pic

      • #159012
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >click to open inspector
        >literally 25 minutes trying to find the specific pic
        no thanks lol

    • #158989
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Is taking a picture of a painting stealing?

    • #158990
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >"RIGHT CLICK IS STEALING"
      >makes shit available to be right clicked
      into the trash it goes

      • #159095
        Anonymous
        Guest

        If you use some javascript to make it so I can’t right click your image, I’m going to spend maybe a minute or two in an element inspector finding the link anyways so I can download it. Even if it’s a freaking blob url.

    • #158992
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >NFT avatar
      Opinion discarded.

    • #158993
      Anonymous
      Guest

      scrot -s
      hahaha nothing personal art scrote

    • #158994
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >trying and failing
      if i can’t right click and save then i will try to find the direct URL using the developer tools

    • #158995
      Anonymous
      Guest
      • #159070
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Best post ITT

    • #158997
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Artists, journalists and lawyers are the most stupid and annoying people on earth.

    • #158998
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The scrotebrain from your pic doesn’t have a clue about how copyright works.
      No, it isn’t stealing.

    • #158999
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >punk

      • #159008
        Anonymous
        Guest

        you’re not punk if you have to say it tbh

      • #159039
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >unless
        if

        • #159041
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >>unless
          >if
          scrotebrain

    • #159000
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >pfp
      opinion discarded

    • #159001
      Anonymous
      Guest

      If the artist holds the copyright to that image then it could technically be considered piracy, but jpeg piracy is such a non-issue that no one actually cares.
      However judging by picrel’s pfp I’m guessing he’s referring to NFTs, which have absolutely no legal backing whatsoever, so those are free game.

    • #159003
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I still don’t get where the blockchain comes into play with NFTs. What is the possible freaking purpose?

      • #159010
        Anonymous
        Guest

        im really confused about NFT but it’s basically like this:

        artist makes a picture. they make a NFT for said picture ownership. others can screenshot or dl it or w/e, but the person who has bought the NFT actually owns it. think of it like you buy a mona lisa reproduction. you still have the same picture as the louvre, but everyone knows it’s not the original and that the louvre owns the real one. that’s how this kinda works. others may have a copy, but you have the original. kinda harder when it comes to digital stuff bc it’s not a physical asset.

        • #159017
          Anonymous
          Guest

          "NFT" is just a digital receipt that everyone can verify, literally nothing else. these scrotebrains who spent money on anything remotely related to "NFT"s own nothing. the only outcome of their spending is a pretend digital sign that says "hey i’m freaking scrotebrained and i spent money on x and y, but i have no rights whatsoever to the actual item"

          • #159023
            Anonymous
            Guest

            ah okay, thanks for the explanation anon.

          • #159065
            Anonymous
            Guest

            This.
            The difference between Mona Lisa and a replica is that they are physically different.
            A digital picture doesn’t physically exist and its representation can be reproduced perfectly.

      • #159024
        Anonymous
        Guest

        think of it as tamper-proof certificates you can sell/resell/trade/transfer online without a third party. Main use case for this is ticketing, online ownership of virtual resources (like tf2 hats) for virtual worlds / games. They can also be used to store securely without possible cheating of diplomas, certifications, and all kind of social/legal titles, this is actually researched by the EBSI (european blockchain service infrastructure).
        basically, an nft is a unique piece of data that can be bound to a crypto address, and that its content is owned by it.

        ntf art is the money-laundering/speculative aspect of it. Its currently pushed forward by scrotebrains and scammers but its certainly not the only use case.

        • #159026
          Anonymous
          Guest

          and by own I mean it in the crypto sense of it, no irl strings attached.
          Unless it becomes widespread and pushed by some government in the future. Where you bind an address to your actual identity, and that whatever you "own" on this address could be legally enforceable. But we’re not here yet.

      • #159046
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Blockchain is just a distributed ledger. The ledger keeps tracks of who owns what. NFT is a certificate of ownership/authenticity, and the blockchain keeps a record of that.

        Its also pulic infrastructure, so anyone can develop for it. So think certified technician diplomas being issued as NFTs to people that pass the training, where the NFT can be proven to come from an authetic source (the issuer) and its ownership can be vouched for (receiver has the keys). This all assumes that the receiver didnt somehow gain access to someone elses keys and is pretending to be them, or that the issuing party set everything up correctly.

      • #159071
        Anonymous
        Guest

        https://i.imgur.com/vCeQiEf.gif

        >What is the possible freaking purpose?
        Trading rare Pepes I guess?

    • #159005
      Anonymous
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    • #159007
      Anonymous
      Guest

      As a long-time internet file hoarder, I have come across many differing attempts to prevent me from saving a file, and so far none have been successful.

      >not even html5

    • #159009
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >implying saving a copy somehow removes the original
      Where’s the theft? Why even waste time making something and even publishing it if you don’t want people to view it? Why be mad someone likes something enough to literally "save" it before you throw a hissy fit and delete your own works later.

      • #159013
        Anonymous
        Guest

        theres art sites that forbid the user from saving images, so there’s a sizeable amount of people who must think so.

        artists are schizophrenic as fuck, there just isn’t any explanation that’s rational.
        like i’ve seen people defend their behavior (at least regarding things like saving and reposting their content) as "oh well you’re not entitled to view their works" as if that’s a valid excuse. do you gouge peoples eyes out if they look at your canvas?

    • #159014
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >NFT scrotebrain crying
      move along folks, this brain cancer is highly infectious

    • #159018
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Is the context about NFT? because if it is, steal away everyone! Fuck NFT and everyone dumb enough to pay for it

    • #159022
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Can you buy/sell a fraction of an NFT?

      • #159045
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Yes, but it depends on the NFT.

    • #159025
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >ITT artists are garden gnomes

    • #159028
      Anonymous
      Guest

      stealing means to take away the original, it doesnt apply to data

      • #159029
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Well, you might not be stealing the data itself but you are diminishing the original’s owner’s ability to capitalize on it, so it’s a transfer of capital and thus stealing

        • #159030
          Anonymous
          Guest

          To quote another anon on this:
          >Piracy hurt sales, period.

          look at this clever lad, somehow thinking himself smarter than those who have already broken down the math on this topic. https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf

          And before you claim confirmation bias, the goal of this study was to prove that piracy did hurt sales; a fact proven by the reviewing bodies attempting to bury their $500k study after the findings were released.

          >None of those results ever appeared in any EU Commission academic studies or to the public anywhere else, however.
          >This seems to substantiate suspicion that the European Commission was hiding the study on purpose and cherry-picked the results they wanted to publish, by choosing only the results which supported their political agenda towards stricter copyright rules.
          >[…] Shortly after the information request by Reda [a person who leaked the findings after making an information request], the EU elected to release the study to the public after all. "We understand that the Commission says that it is a complete coincidence that its decision to publish the study, a year and a half after it was finished, happens to coincide with Ms. Reda’s freedom of information request," said EDRi.

        • #159033
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Are you?
          With NFTs only one copy of the token exists. If the token has already been sold you aren’t depriving the artist of income in the same way as if you pirated a movie where you might have bought one of the many available copies.

          • #159034
            Anonymous
            Guest

            NOOOO YOU CANNOT DEPRIVE SHEKELSTEIN OF HIS ONLY SOURCE OF INCOME

        • #159056
          Anonymous
          Guest

          you can cope all you want, stealing only applies to scarce resources, which doesnt include data

    • #159031
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Saved.

    • #159032
      Anonymous
      Guest

      probably
      if it is im even happier
      "stealing from artist" sounds way better than "saving art"

    • #159038
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Is this shit about NFTs?
      What a freaking scrotebrained concept, literally scrotes trying to create another bubble because they missed the crypto train.

    • #159042
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Yes and I do it with pride. If I can’t do it this way then I screenshot the shit. Simple as.

    • #159043
      Anonymous
      Guest

      If your art only exists to make money you’re a shit artist

      • #159051
        Anonymous
        Guest

        this

    • #159044
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Caching saves the image to disk automatically HAHAHAHA

    • #159047
      Anonymous
      Guest

      He is free to work frying hamburgers

    • #159048
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Technically speaking, is "right click saving as" stealing?
      Nope. But it you do it on an utterly scrotebrained twitter post, it’s equally bad. Fuck off.

    • #159049
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I HATE COPYRIGHT

    • #159050
      Anonymous
      Guest
    • #159052
      Anonymous
      Guest

      the only art I care about gets uploaded to boorus

    • #159053
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Looting is stealing, and saving images just is okay?

      • #159055
        Anonymous
        Guest

        When you steal something, the person being stolen from loses that object and you gain that object. Making a copy does not deny someone access to that object.

        • #159057
          Anonymous
          Guest

          They’re denied a sale, which is a tangible thing.

          • #159067
            Anonymous
            Guest

            "Being denied a sale" and "losing an item permanent" are two entirely different things.

          • #159068
            Anonymous
            Guest

            That doesnt make too much sense. Lets say someone were to buy a "legitimate" copy from you, then someone turns around and then shares that copy with others. Others are not obtaining a copy of that per say, rather they are allowed access to it. That is not illegal, but going by what you said it would be denying you a potential sale because someone decided to share it. Which is silly.

    • #159058
      Anonymous
      Guest

      i dont know i dont care

    • #159061
      Anonymous
      Guest

      there should be a disclaimer/notification every time you use the right-click-save-as feature.

    • #159062
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Guy in the OP is a NFT weirdo

    • #159063
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >open page
      >get the image in the browser cache
      nothing personnel kid

    • #159064
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >don’t mind me, just Right Click Saving this wallet

      • #159080
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >wallet in back pocket
        deserves it

    • #159066
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Not really, you are moving stuff from your computer to a different place on your computer. You might think downloading it in the first place is theft, but it’s there because you requested it and they sent it willingly.

    • #159069
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >implying copying digital ones and zeroes from one medium to another is stealing

    • #159072
      Anonymous
      Guest

      "Stealing" is not a real concept. The possession of an object is determined simply by the will of the owner, whoever wants it more gets to have it. When you "buy" a painting from an artist you give him an equivalent of "how much" he wants to have it. If you don’t get to that threshold then he doesn’t give it to you.
      When someone "steals" something that person is putting more effort into having it than the original owner to maintain it.
      Things (and specially art) cannot be "stolen". Protect your shit if you don’t want it taken away.

      • #159073
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Yes, when the government comes to take your property from you, theyre not "stealing" it from you, rather they just wanted it more than you did.

        • #159077
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Yes.
          If you don’t want lose it, you defend it.

          • #159084
            Anonymous
            Guest

            If I dont want to lose it, then I also have to keep track of where it is. If I lose it (misplace it) and someone else finds and keeps it, its not that they wanted it more than me, thats just coincidental. But if I discover who found it, and ask them to return it to me but they refuse, then they are in fact stealing it from me because they acknowledge that I am the original owner and refuse to return my property to me.

    • #159074
      Anonymous
      Guest

      if you are viewing the image , its already been downloaded to your computer, so saving it , is really just copying it from a temporary location to a permanent one, that cannot be considered stealing.

    • #159086
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >view source
      >search ".jpg"
      Problem, starving patreon imagetracer?

    • #159087
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I litterer stole a peace of priceless art.
      And so did your browser cache

      • #159091
        Anonymous
        Guest

        fuck am I going to prison

    • #159089
      Anonymous
      Guest

      These nerds can’t stop me from saving their pictures, I will freaking screenshot every part and piece it back together if I have to

    • #159090
      Anonymous
      Guest

      c = twint.Config()
      c.Search = ‘from:punk529’
      c.Images = True
      c.Store_object = True
      tweets = []
      c.Store_object_tweets_list = tweets twint.run.Search(c)
      for tweet in tweets:
      for img in tweet.photos:
      with requests.get(img) as data:
      with open(img, ‘wb’) as file:
      file.write(data.content)

      heh

    • #159092
      Anonymous
      Guest

      You will change your tune when there’s an actual W3C standard like EME backed by hardware DRM that prevents you from saving and screenshotting images so you can’t steal NFTs or some hoe’s tiktok/onlyfans videos. You know it’s coming.

    • #159093
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Moving an image from RAM to your hard drive is not stealing. It was already on your device.

    • #159094
      Anonymous
      Guest

      The printing press is >that way

    • #159096
      Anonymous
      Guest

      it is your duty to never respect anyone who has positive opinions regarding nfts

    • #159097
      Anonymous
      Guest

      No. You can’t steal pixels. The word steal means "to take." In the digital world where everything is infinitely reproduced at no expense to the original copy the concept of stealing doesn’t apply because nothing was taken. Intellectual property is Talmudic bullshit.

    • #159098
      Anonymous
      Guest

      When you tune in to a radio broadcast are you stealing songs?

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