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Technically speaking, is "right click saving as" stealing?
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no
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Oh haha I’m just right click saving every frame of this hollywood movie and uploading it to youtube… wh-what Banned? NOOO ITS NOT STEALING ITS JUST COPYING WITHOUT PERMISSION ITS DIFFERENT
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>Oh haha I’m just right click saving every frame of this hollywood movie and uploading it to youtube
People stopped bothering with that really since they know it wouldn’t stay up, so that’s not really a great example. -
That’s a bad example and you should feel bad for posting.
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scrote
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youtube can do what they want and so can i.
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YouTube doesn’t ban you for ‘stealing’, and whether they ban you or not is not indicative of whether an action counts as stealing.
>if Allah doesn’t exist, then why do kaffirs het their heads lobbed off?
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You’re right, it’s not theft because they gave you permission to copy their bits to your computer to be displayed. It has to be stored on your computer to be displayed. It’s an enforceable copyright violation to then retransmit it to YouTube. Copyright violation is not theft, it’s its own crime.
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Wrong.
The service only allows you to use those bits to display them in very specific circumstances.
Any other usage of those bits, including but not limited to copying them from the application-defined temporary storage to another location on your or another computer, is a violation of either the ToS or the EULA or some other legal bullshit.-
did I sign a gawddamn waiver to view the image, if the answer is no, then its unenforceable , its like putting up a hotdog stand on the street, with your custom bun designs, and then trying to sue people for taking pictures of it.
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Have you never seen a sign like "By using this service, you agree to…"?
In the same way as you don’t need to sign a gawddamn waiver for the laws of a country to apply to you, you don’t need to sign a gawddamn waiver for the terms of service to apply to you.Although you are correct in that it is largely unenforceable.
Unless you commit another crime at the same time, like copyright infringement, the worst they can do is terminate your account.
And that’s only if they can prove that you violated the terms, which they usually won’t be bonked to bother with.What you should really worry about is that they don’t only do punishment, they also do prevention. It’s a neverending arms race between DRM developers and crackers.
From tiny tricks like disabling right-clicking on an element in a website, to more and more elaborate schemes.Recently I was shocked to see a google spreadsheet with copying and saving disabled. I really wanted it offline so I almost resorted to screenshotting all of it piece by small piece, but I found that exporting to static HTML <table>s wasn’t disabled so I saved it that way.
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This right here, this is the true issue facing digital distribution. Rather than owning a digital asset, a user is permitted access to the content via an authorized third party. If Amazon sells an ebook to someone, the buyer is only entitled to the ability to access the content of the ebook, but in the way Amazon allows it to happen. This is the real issue facing digital distribution, the rules setup via software to enforce abitrary copyright restrictions with deny the user their freedoms.
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saving to your own pc is not the same as uploading to youtube
while you watch a copyrighted movie on netflix, its saving frames on your pc toois literally everyone these days on LULZ a 12 year old zoomer?
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Here’s the difference: a movie is being sold as a product, images online usually aren’t. Even copying a movie is generally okay as long as you aren’t distributing it (I’m not making a moral argument, just going off of how the law tells it).
If I save an image online, I probably didn’t have to pay to access it. Saving it and distributing it doesn’t cause the artist to experience a loss.
The scrote in the OP is most-likely talking about NFT, in which case he’s a scrotebrain for investing money in JPGs
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Fuck no.
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Artist are such pieces of shit nowadays
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Dunno man. They’re owned by garden gnomes, so they have to do what the garden gnome tells them, or no shekels.
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maybe but NFT scrotebrains aren’t exactly "artists"
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only Westerners are like this
low quality art, watermark, patreon… Japs make x10 better art, no watermark, no begging
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japanese artists are freaking batshit insane. If you show one pixel of their work without begging them on your knees for permissions they make a big twitter scandal about you. Even discussing, not showing, DISCUSSING, their work on camera is grounds for a twitlonger. And the worst part about jap artists is that the public backs them up because japs just go with the flow without questioning, "if that guy said so then it must be true". They are a lot more talented than western artists but they are 10x more crazy.
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they still add watermarks, it’s less of a cultural thing and more of a depending on that specific artist
some just add a signature, others go freaking crazy plastering their name, and either way they’ll want bux for looking at it on patreon or fanboxyeah japanese artist insanity is no freaking joke, i’ve seen people have meltdowns over even using it as an avatar and that’s with credit
like don’t freaking post online period if you can’t grasp the concept of copying and sharing files
but of course muh "polite culture" so nobody will bother telling them the truth to their face
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>nowadays
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>Technically speaking, is "right click saving as" stealing?
Just pirated your post, fuck you nerd lmao -
I get my images by finding the URL in the web inspector and then feeding it into wget
get rekt right click artshitters-
I just take screenshots lmao
yes I download all my furry porn from twitter this way-
show an example pic
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>click to open inspector
>literally 25 minutes trying to find the specific pic
no thanks lol-
>open inspector
>select image with element selection tool
>get url tag attribute immediately from DOM-
I mean why u even lying? Admit it, its literally 35 strwight minutes looking at a wall of nonsense
kek what a kwarbed 92 bitch!!-
do americans really? i thought the average iq there was at least 60
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I get the impression you’re lying just for attention. There’s multiple ways to do this that are all automated. Just using the network monitor alone and filtering by content type gives you full on mouse hover previews of the content. It can’t be any easier.
It’s not going to take more than 1 minute if not 2 seconds to see the image, right click, save as.What’s wrong with you that you have to troll on the internet like that? Can you at least tell me?
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STOP TROLLING. NOW!!!!
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maybe if you’re scrotebrained
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scrote you can pick the specific part of a webpage with two clicks
i use it all the time, especially when a website prevents you from copying text (fuck medium) -
oy vey I can’t believe it takes 45 minutes to find a url
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Is taking a picture of a painting stealing?
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>"RIGHT CLICK IS STEALING"
>makes shit available to be right clicked
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If you use some javascript to make it so I can’t right click your image, I’m going to spend maybe a minute or two in an element inspector finding the link anyways so I can download it. Even if it’s a freaking blob url.
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>NFT avatar
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hahaha nothing personal art scrote -
>trying and failing
if i can’t right click and save then i will try to find the direct URL using the developer tools -
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Best post ITT
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Artists, journalists and lawyers are the most stupid and annoying people on earth.
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The scrotebrain from your pic doesn’t have a clue about how copyright works.
No, it isn’t stealing. -
>punk
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you’re not punk if you have to say it tbh
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scrotebrain
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>pfp
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If the artist holds the copyright to that image then it could technically be considered piracy, but jpeg piracy is such a non-issue that no one actually cares.
However judging by picrel’s pfp I’m guessing he’s referring to NFTs, which have absolutely no legal backing whatsoever, so those are free game. -
I still don’t get where the blockchain comes into play with NFTs. What is the possible freaking purpose?
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im really confused about NFT but it’s basically like this:
artist makes a picture. they make a NFT for said picture ownership. others can screenshot or dl it or w/e, but the person who has bought the NFT actually owns it. think of it like you buy a mona lisa reproduction. you still have the same picture as the louvre, but everyone knows it’s not the original and that the louvre owns the real one. that’s how this kinda works. others may have a copy, but you have the original. kinda harder when it comes to digital stuff bc it’s not a physical asset.
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"NFT" is just a digital receipt that everyone can verify, literally nothing else. these scrotebrains who spent money on anything remotely related to "NFT"s own nothing. the only outcome of their spending is a pretend digital sign that says "hey i’m freaking scrotebrained and i spent money on x and y, but i have no rights whatsoever to the actual item"
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ah okay, thanks for the explanation anon.
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This.
The difference between Mona Lisa and a replica is that they are physically different.
A digital picture doesn’t physically exist and its representation can be reproduced perfectly.
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think of it as tamper-proof certificates you can sell/resell/trade/transfer online without a third party. Main use case for this is ticketing, online ownership of virtual resources (like tf2 hats) for virtual worlds / games. They can also be used to store securely without possible cheating of diplomas, certifications, and all kind of social/legal titles, this is actually researched by the EBSI (european blockchain service infrastructure).
basically, an nft is a unique piece of data that can be bound to a crypto address, and that its content is owned by it.ntf art is the money-laundering/speculative aspect of it. Its currently pushed forward by scrotebrains and scammers but its certainly not the only use case.
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and by own I mean it in the crypto sense of it, no irl strings attached.
Unless it becomes widespread and pushed by some government in the future. Where you bind an address to your actual identity, and that whatever you "own" on this address could be legally enforceable. But we’re not here yet.
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Blockchain is just a distributed ledger. The ledger keeps tracks of who owns what. NFT is a certificate of ownership/authenticity, and the blockchain keeps a record of that.
Its also pulic infrastructure, so anyone can develop for it. So think certified technician diplomas being issued as NFTs to people that pass the training, where the NFT can be proven to come from an authetic source (the issuer) and its ownership can be vouched for (receiver has the keys). This all assumes that the receiver didnt somehow gain access to someone elses keys and is pretending to be them, or that the issuing party set everything up correctly.
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https://i.imgur.com/vCeQiEf.gif
>What is the possible freaking purpose?
Trading rare Pepes I guess?
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As a long-time internet file hoarder, I have come across many differing attempts to prevent me from saving a file, and so far none have been successful.
>not even html5
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>implying saving a copy somehow removes the original
Where’s the theft? Why even waste time making something and even publishing it if you don’t want people to view it? Why be mad someone likes something enough to literally "save" it before you throw a hissy fit and delete your own works later.-
theres art sites that forbid the user from saving images, so there’s a sizeable amount of people who must think so.
artists are schizophrenic as fuck, there just isn’t any explanation that’s rational.
like i’ve seen people defend their behavior (at least regarding things like saving and reposting their content) as "oh well you’re not entitled to view their works" as if that’s a valid excuse. do you gouge peoples eyes out if they look at your canvas?
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>NFT scrotebrain crying
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Is the context about NFT? because if it is, steal away everyone! Fuck NFT and everyone dumb enough to pay for it
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Can you buy/sell a fraction of an NFT?
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Yes, but it depends on the NFT.
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>ITT artists are garden gnomes
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stealing means to take away the original, it doesnt apply to data
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Well, you might not be stealing the data itself but you are diminishing the original’s owner’s ability to capitalize on it, so it’s a transfer of capital and thus stealing
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To quote another anon on this:
>Piracy hurt sales, period.look at this clever lad, somehow thinking himself smarter than those who have already broken down the math on this topic. https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_study.pdf
And before you claim confirmation bias, the goal of this study was to prove that piracy did hurt sales; a fact proven by the reviewing bodies attempting to bury their $500k study after the findings were released.
>None of those results ever appeared in any EU Commission academic studies or to the public anywhere else, however.
>This seems to substantiate suspicion that the European Commission was hiding the study on purpose and cherry-picked the results they wanted to publish, by choosing only the results which supported their political agenda towards stricter copyright rules.
>[…] Shortly after the information request by Reda [a person who leaked the findings after making an information request], the EU elected to release the study to the public after all. "We understand that the Commission says that it is a complete coincidence that its decision to publish the study, a year and a half after it was finished, happens to coincide with Ms. Reda’s freedom of information request," said EDRi. -
Are you?
With NFTs only one copy of the token exists. If the token has already been sold you aren’t depriving the artist of income in the same way as if you pirated a movie where you might have bought one of the many available copies.-
NOOOO YOU CANNOT DEPRIVE SHEKELSTEIN OF HIS ONLY SOURCE OF INCOME
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you can cope all you want, stealing only applies to scarce resources, which doesnt include data
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Saved.
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probably
if it is im even happier
"stealing from artist" sounds way better than "saving art" -
Is this shit about NFTs?
What a freaking scrotebrained concept, literally scrotes trying to create another bubble because they missed the crypto train. -
Yes and I do it with pride. If I can’t do it this way then I screenshot the shit. Simple as.
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If your art only exists to make money you’re a shit artist
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this
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Caching saves the image to disk automatically HAHAHAHA
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He is free to work frying hamburgers
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>Technically speaking, is "right click saving as" stealing?
Nope. But it you do it on an utterly scrotebrained twitter post, it’s equally bad. Fuck off. -
I HATE COPYRIGHT
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the only art I care about gets uploaded to boorus
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Looting is stealing, and saving images just is okay?
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When you steal something, the person being stolen from loses that object and you gain that object. Making a copy does not deny someone access to that object.
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They’re denied a sale, which is a tangible thing.
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"Being denied a sale" and "losing an item permanent" are two entirely different things.
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That doesnt make too much sense. Lets say someone were to buy a "legitimate" copy from you, then someone turns around and then shares that copy with others. Others are not obtaining a copy of that per say, rather they are allowed access to it. That is not illegal, but going by what you said it would be denying you a potential sale because someone decided to share it. Which is silly.
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i dont know i dont care
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there should be a disclaimer/notification every time you use the right-click-save-as feature.
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Guy in the OP is a NFT weirdo
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>open page
>get the image in the browser cache
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>don’t mind me, just Right Click Saving this wallet
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>wallet in back pocket
deserves it
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Not really, you are moving stuff from your computer to a different place on your computer. You might think downloading it in the first place is theft, but it’s there because you requested it and they sent it willingly.
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>implying copying digital ones and zeroes from one medium to another is stealing
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"Stealing" is not a real concept. The possession of an object is determined simply by the will of the owner, whoever wants it more gets to have it. When you "buy" a painting from an artist you give him an equivalent of "how much" he wants to have it. If you don’t get to that threshold then he doesn’t give it to you.
When someone "steals" something that person is putting more effort into having it than the original owner to maintain it.
Things (and specially art) cannot be "stolen". Protect your shit if you don’t want it taken away.-
Yes, when the government comes to take your property from you, theyre not "stealing" it from you, rather they just wanted it more than you did.
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Yes.
If you don’t want lose it, you defend it.-
If I dont want to lose it, then I also have to keep track of where it is. If I lose it (misplace it) and someone else finds and keeps it, its not that they wanted it more than me, thats just coincidental. But if I discover who found it, and ask them to return it to me but they refuse, then they are in fact stealing it from me because they acknowledge that I am the original owner and refuse to return my property to me.
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if you are viewing the image , its already been downloaded to your computer, so saving it , is really just copying it from a temporary location to a permanent one, that cannot be considered stealing.
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>view source
>search ".jpg"
Problem, starving patreon imagetracer? -
I litterer stole a peace of priceless art.
And so did your browser cache-
fuck am I going to prison
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These nerds can’t stop me from saving their pictures, I will freaking screenshot every part and piece it back together if I have to
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c = twint.Config()
c.Search = ‘from:punk529’
c.Images = True
c.Store_object = True
tweets = []
c.Store_object_tweets_list = tweets twint.run.Search(c)
for tweet in tweets:
for img in tweet.photos:
with requests.get(img) as data:
with open(img, ‘wb’) as file:
file.write(data.content)heh
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You will change your tune when there’s an actual W3C standard like EME backed by hardware DRM that prevents you from saving and screenshotting images so you can’t steal NFTs or some hoe’s tiktok/onlyfans videos. You know it’s coming.
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Moving an image from RAM to your hard drive is not stealing. It was already on your device.
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The printing press is >that way
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it is your duty to never respect anyone who has positive opinions regarding nfts
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No. You can’t steal pixels. The word steal means "to take." In the digital world where everything is infinitely reproduced at no expense to the original copy the concept of stealing doesn’t apply because nothing was taken. Intellectual property is Talmudic bullshit.
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When you tune in to a radio broadcast are you stealing songs?
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