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    • #58169
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      I thought the iron curtain was a giant metal wall across Europe

    • #58170
      Anonymous
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      >Greece in eastern bloc
      W-what timeline are you from anon?

      • #58210
        Anonymous
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        Looks like Turkey too. I guess no Truman doctrine in this world

      • #58429
        Anonymous
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        >literal Iron Curtain
        A pretty kino one, clearly.

    • #58171
      Anonymous
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      I believed women were equal to men and they were just deliberately held down for all of history lol

      • #58267
        Anonymous
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        this

      • #58368
        Anonymous
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        This but with Black people.

      • #58373
        Anonymous
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        This but with Black people.

        Stop browsing LULZ for a little and talk to real people

        • #58394
          Anonymous
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          If you talk to a layman about American/African black history, they will probably try and parrot the fantasy of a historically unique oppression of blacks that warrants current social politics. So try again.

          • #58413
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            Since 1989, whites receive on average 36% more callbacks than African Americans, and 24% more callbacks than Latinos. We observe no change in the level of hiring discrimination against African Americans over the past 25 years… Accounting for applicant education, applicant gender, study method, occupational groups, and local labor market conditions does little to alter this result. Contrary to claims of declining discrimination in American society, our estimates suggest that levels of discrimination remain largely unchanged, at least at the point of hire.

            http://m.pnas.org/content/114/41/10870.full

            The authors responded to more than 1,300 employment ads in the sales, administrative support, clerical, and customer services job categories, sending out nearly 5,000 resumes. The ads covered a large spectrum of job quality, from cashier work at retail establishments and clerical work in a mailroom to office and sales management positions.

            The results indicate large racial differences in callback rates to a phone line with a voice mailbox attached and a message recorded by someone of the appropriate race and gender. Job applicants with white names needed to send about 10 resumes to get one callback; those with African-American names needed to send around 15 resumes to get one callback… It indicates that a white name yields as many more callbacks as an additional eight years of experience.

            http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

            Black-white residential segregation, while on the decline, still persists at high levels in most US metropolitan areas… Recent evidence suggests that household-level socioeconomic and demographic characteristics explain only a small proportion of the racial differences in location choices. Racial processes such as prejudice and housing market discrimination continue to drive black-white segregation patterns.

            http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.0735-2166.2004.00205.x/full

          • #58414
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            This article analyzes sentencing outcomes for black and white men in Georgia. The analysis uses sentencing data collected by the Georgia Department of Corrections (GDC). Among first-time offenders, both the race-only models and race and skin color models estimate that, on average, blacks receive sentences that are 4.25 percent higher than those of whites even after controlling for legally-relevant factors such as the type of crime.

            http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jels.12077/full

            Although there exists a large and well-documented “race gap” between whites and blacks in their support for the death penalty, we know relatively little about the nature of these differences and how the races respond to various arguments against the penalty… whites, who are highly resistant to persuasion and, in the case of the racial argument, actually become more supportive of the death penalty upon learning that it discriminates against blacks…

            http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1540-5907.2007.00293.x/full

            Controlling for a wide array of factors, we found that in cases involving a White victim, the more stereotypically Black a defendant is perceived to be, the more likely that person is to be sentenced to death.

            http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9280.2006.01716.x

            Empirical studies of the death penalty continue to find that the race and gender of homicide victims are associated with the severity of legal responses in homicide cases even after controlling for legally relevant factors… In particular, we empirically test the hypothesis that defendants convicted of killing white females are significantly more likely to receive death sentences than killers of victims with other race-gender characteristics. Findings indicate that homicides with white female victims were more likely to result in death sentences than other victim race-gender dyads.

            http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07418820400096021

          • #58415
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            This paper assesses whether Blacks and Hispanics are disadvantaged at the sentencing phase of the justice system and whether the findings depend on the use of traditional regression-based methods to control for legally relevant variables vs. the use of precision matching methods, which attend to potential sample selection bias that occurs when there are not exact matches for those sentenced to incarceration and non-incarceration. Analysis of the population of Florida offenders from 1994 to 2006 using both methodologies indicates that Black offenders continue to be disproportionately incarcerated compared to White or Hispanic offenders, and that Hispanic offenders were slightly more likely than White offenders to be incarcerated.

            http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07418825.2012.659674?src=recsys

            Using unique data on misdemeanor marijuana cases, this study examines the impact of defendants’ race on prosecutors’ decisions to make (a) plea offers for a lesser charge and (b) sentence offers for non-custodial punishments. Preliminary findings indicated that black defendants were less likely to receive reduced charge offers, and both black and Latino defendants were more likely to receive custodial sentence offers. However, these disparities were largely explained by legal factors, evidence, arrest circumstances, and court actor characteristics, though black defendants were still more likely to receive custodial sentence offers after including these controls

            http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07418825.2014.915340?src=recsys

          • #58416
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            Recent studies by police departments and researchers confirm that police stop persons of racial and ethnic minority groups more often than whites relative to their proportions in the population… In this article we analyze data from 125,000 pedestrian stops by the New York Police Department over a 15-month period… We find that persons of African and Hispanic descent were stopped more frequently than whites, even after controlling for precinct variability and race-specific estimates of crime participation.

            http://amstat.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1198/016214506000001040#.WkATqno7af0

            Although Medicare provides beneficiaries with primary access to the health care system, racial/ethnic disparities in health care experiences and preventive care are well documented in the Medicare population… In the absence of major health problems, whites have better overall access to care than other Medicare beneficiaries.

            https://www.rand.org/pubs/external_publications/EP50370.html

            African Americans and Hispanics traditionally have faced many barriers that limit their access to and choice of housing. During summer and fall 2000, local fair housing organizations conducted 4,600 paired tests across 20 major metropolitan areas nationwide. These surveys directly compared real estate or rental offices’ treatment of African Americans and Hispanics to that of whites. The study finds that disparate treatment discrimination in rental and owner-occupied housing markets persists…

            https://academic.oup.com/socpro/article-abstract/52/2/152/1659589

          • #58417
            Anonymous
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            This paper tests for racial discrimination in the rental housing market using matched-pair audits conducted via e-mail for rental units advertised on-line… Generally, discrimination occurs against African American names… Racial discrimination is more severe in neighborhoods that are near “tipping points” in racial composition, and for units that are part of a larger building.

            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094119011000179

            Rapid actions to persons holding weapons were simulated using desktop virtual reality… Signal detection analyses revealed two race effects that led to Blacks being incorrectly shot at more than Whites: a perceptual sensitivity effect (when held by Blacks guns were less distinguishable from harmless objects) and a response bias effect (objects held by Blacks were more likely to be treated as guns).

            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103103000209

            Research shows that participants shoot armed Blacks more frequently and quickly than armed Whites, but make don’t-shoot responses more frequently and quickly for unarmed Whites than unarmed Blacks. We argue that this bias reflects the perception of threat — specifically, threat associated with Black males.

            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103110002040

            The current work examined police officers’ decisions to shoot Black and White criminal suspects in a computer simulation. Responses to the simulation revealed that upon initial exposure to the program, the officers were more likely to mistakenly shoot unarmed Black compared with unarmed White suspects.

            http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.0956-7976.2005.00800.x

          • #58418
            Anonymous
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            Police officers were compared with community members in terms of the speed and accuracy with which they made simulated decisions to shoot (or not shoot) Black and White targets. Both samples exhibited robust racial bias in response speed

            http://psycnet.apa.org/record/2007-07951-004

            Participants were exposed to a crime story embedded in a newscast… Afterward, participants were asked the likelihood that the depicted officer and perpetrator were either White or Black. In addition, participants were asked how positively they viewed the officer who was featured in the story. Results revealed that race unidentified perpetrators were rated as having a high likelihood of being Black. In addition, heavy news viewers were more likely than light news viewers to express a high likelihood that the unidentified officer was White. Finally, heavy news viewers were more likely than light news viewers to have positive perceptions of unidentified officers, but not of Black officers featured in a newscast.

            http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15213260701375660?src=recsys

            We conclude that disparities in military allocations of goods and burdens sometimes disadvantage racial minorities. This conclusion rests on a review of institutional analyses in five arenas to which researchers have paid close attention: racial patterns in enlistment, officer promotion rates, administration of military justice, risk of death in combat, and health care for wounded soldiers. Although not a direct or intended result of military policy and practice, in three of five cases there was evidence of racial bias and institutional racism.

            http://www.annualreviews.org/abs/doi/10.1146/annurev-soc-071811-145501

          • #58419
            Anonymous
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            The results show that white respondents who saw an image of an African American voter and poll worker expressed greater support for voter id laws than those in the no image condition, even after controlling for the significant effects of racial resentment and political ideology. Exposure to an image of a white voter and poll worker did not produce a similar effect. The findings provide new evidence that public opinion about voter ID laws is racialized

          • #58420
            Anonymous
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            hrough the use of a unique dataset from the 2006 elections, we analyze the impact that voter identification laws have on immigrant and minority voters in California, New Mexico and Washington… Because our data reflects the identification trends of actual voters, not just adult citizens, the findings go far to suggest that voter identification laws could immediately disenfranchise many Latino, Asian and African American citizens.

            https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c910/559899789100536c71b2e577026ba0ea8d66.pdf

            Because voter-identification laws discourage voter turnout, particularly among identifiable minority groups, their implementation abridges a fundamental constitutional right. The U.S. Constitution includes a little-known remedy for denying or abridging the right to vote that reduces a state’s congressional representation in proportion to the extent of the abridgements

            https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ps-political-science-and-politics/article/voterid-laws-discourage-participation-particularly-among-minorities-and-trigger-a-constitutional-remedy-in-lost-representation/B68D9AA0153594843D09002D28909AF5

          • #58464
            Anonymous
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            >all these cringe replies
            Do any of (you) (the one person replying lol) really believe that Blacks are exactly likes Whites, and Blacks are just as emotionally intelligent, just as smart, and just as capable, and that any time a minority is ‘less likely’ to get something or more likely to be killed it’s because of SECRET INTERNALIZED RACISM? So sad, I feel bad for (you).

        • #58467
          Anonymous
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          talking about these things outsid eof LULZ will sne doyu to jail in some countries.

      • #58458
        Anonymous
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        Same

    • #58172
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Richard Nixon was a military dictator and ruled from the Pentagon for some reason

      • #58173
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Boomers taught you that

      • #58187
        Anonymous
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        Can a POTUS rule from the Pentagon? It would be kino as hell ngl

      • #58195
        Anonymous
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        h..how old are you?

        • #58360
          Anonymous
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          Nixon left office almost 50 years ago, anon

    • #58174
      Anonymous
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      That every war was about good vs evil.

    • #58177
      Anonymous
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      I thought the world was actually black and white like in those old movies and photos and Someone just invented color.

      • #58260
        Anonymous
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        That’s pretty stupid anon, I won’t lie to you

      • #58441
        Anonymous
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        t. Calvin

    • #58178
      Anonymous
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      I distinctly remember my dad telling me that Russia was only large during the USSR and that Russia after the USSR was actually a really small country. I don’t know why I have this memory because it seems too retarded for him to say, yet its there. Pic related is how big I remember thinking Russia was, with a memory of a map where Russia was about that size.

      • #58180
        Anonymous
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        perhaps your father was referring to the principality of muscovy?

        • #58181
          Anonymous
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          Doubtful, I remember it was because we saw a map with the USSR on it and him saying that Russia wasn’t that big any more, and that Russia was actually a small country. It’s a baffling memory but genuinely influenced my interpretation of Russia as a kid.

          • #58263
            Anonymous
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            You thought Kaliningrad was whole Russia.

        • #58283
          Anonymous
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          the principality of Moscovy united Russia

      • #58184
        Anonymous
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        Could be he talked about Russia not being as large as it had formerly been. Your brain might have just taken that to mean small and ran with it.

      • #58186
        Anonymous
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        You were probably looking at an old map or globe and your father pointed out that Russia is simply smaller than the USSR due to the fact that it had the Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine, and Central Asia in it.

      • #58281
        Anonymous
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        I remember a teacher saying that Russia isn’t the biggest country in the world anymore after the USSRs collapse and that China was bigger.

        That is absolute bullshit, Russia is still by far the biggest country.

        Somehow it makes me mad when teachers talk retarded garbage they never fact-checked and believe is true, because a) they’re spreading stupidity on the planet and b) they’re authority figures and should be even better educated than the average pleb. I’m not a teacher and would never make retarded mistakes like that.

        • #58456
          Anonymous
          Guest

          This was back when I was around 5-9.
          I thought the RAF in WW2 shows and movies referred to the Russian Air Force.
          I thought that the Spanish language must have been something like Chinese.

          I thought that the Holy Roman Empire referred to the late Roman Empire.

          I had a teacher’s assistant insist that Gaza and Giza were the same thing.

          As a child I thought Diana was a princess of literal Whales like a royally appointed warden of sea life and people respected her for her great works in Ocean conservation…

          Yeah, back when I was 6 or something after learning about the Revolutionary War, talk on the TV about the British royals was confusing to me.
          I was like, "aren’t they the bad guys, our enemies"?

          That’s okay, lad. When the Russians invaded Georgia in 2008, I didn’t know Georgia was a nation in the Caucasus and I thought they were invading the US state (which I live adjacent to). I started to panic and wonder if my dad would have to fight them.

          We teased our truck driver friend about that and he thought he would have to haul his truck down there.

      • #58343
        Anonymous
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        Related, altough not really a historical belief, but as a kid I tought that russia was just the kaliningrad oblast

      • #58393
        Anonymous
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        Related. My mom used to say our country Canada was the biggest country in the world now that the USSR broke up. My 10 year old self knew the truth, but didn’t understand my mom could be wrong about something yet.

      • #58433
        Anonymous
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        Didn’t you just mistake it for Kaliningrad? I remember also wondering why there are two Russias

    • #58179
      Anonymous
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      I trought islam was just a branch of judaism

      • #58215
        Anonymous
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        You weren’t wrong. Islam and Protestantism are both gnomish psyops.

        • #58327
          Anonymous
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          based

        • #58329
          Anonymous
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          Imagine accepting the Torah as part of your infallible and unique holy books and still pretending to you aren’t gnomish, and accusing people who reject the Torah of being gnomish

        • #58369
          Anonymous
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          >be garden gnomes
          >create a religion that results in the KKK
          >create another religion that results in Hamas
          They didn’t seem to think it all the way through.

          • #58412
            Anonymous
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            garden gnomes unironically have funded and supported every ideology you can ever possibly believe in

    • #58182
      Anonymous
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      I thought the UN met in the International Space Station and all those photos you see of the UN were in space. I also thought armies only existed to combat terrorism and that countries didn’t go to war with each other. As well every country started out as a tribe that just happened to settle there and grew untill it reached it’s modern borders.

      • #58204
        Anonymous
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        >every country started out as a tribe that just happened to settle there and grew untill it reached it’s modern borders.

        Civ logic kek

    • #58183
      Anonymous
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      The roman empire never settled in the territory of modern germany. The barbarians caused the fall of Rome and not their corrupt politicians and in fighting. The eastern roman empire wasn’t Rome. Rabbinic judaism is older than christianity. The french revolution was the first and only "real" revolution.

      • #58292
        Anonymous
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        >Rabbinic judaism is older than christianity.
        Rabbinic Judaism is slightly older than Christianity as a distinct religion and not a sect of Judaism. Prior to the time of bar kokhba Christians were hoping to become conventional Judaism, not a separate faith.

    • #58185
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Why are Greece and turkey eastern bloc?

    • #58188
      Anonymous
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      That the Berlin wall split the whole of East and West Germany, and not just Berlin.

      • #58214
        Anonymous
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        Me too. I thought the border was the location of the wall. One time I wondered why the Berlin Wall was nowhere near Berlin.

      • #58218
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Wait, it didn’t?

        • #58220
          Anonymous
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          The "Berlin Wall" only surrounded west berlin. The inner german border was fortifified in the same way but scaled up. Noone outside of germany talks about the inner german border though, since it is apparently not as spectacular

          • #58221
            Anonymous
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            Wait, I just learned the West Berlin was actually located in East Germany.
            Why would any West German agree to live there and why even go to the trouble of splitting Berlin in two instead of just giving Berlin to East Germany?

            • #58244
              Anonymous
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              Are you serious? Check up on the yalta conference where the allies carved up post war europe. Each nation got their occupation zones, ofcourse the capital of the defeated enemy will be split the same the whole country was. stalin wanted west berlin so he isolated it, build the wall, etc. The allies stood strong (thankfully) and supplied west berlin by air (look up berlin airlift). But why would west germans leave west berlin, it is literally their home. Furthermore you cant really "decide" where to live anyway, its not like you could just buy a house anywhere in post war germany

              • #58286
                Anonymous
                Guest

                >ofcourse the capital of the defeated enemy will be split the same the whole country was
                This was actually a terrible idea for everyone involved, there’s no "of course" about it.

                • #58308
                  Anonymous
                  Guest

                  yea sure, just let 1 nation cuck the other 3 victorious allies for the sake of convenience. That is not how that works

            • #58295
              Anonymous
              Guest

              the western allies managing to hold West Berlin in the face of the Soviet blockade against it was a huge propaganda coup and one of the greatest logistical achievements ever accomplished

      • #58317
        Anonymous
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        Same

    • #58189
      Anonymous
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      That Napoleon guillotined the french king during the revolution and that he would guillotine all the kings of the countries he conquered so his rule couldn’t be questioned. Also that you had to actually kill others kings to be an ’emperor’

      • #58446
        Anonymous
        Guest

        that would have been ultra based lol

    • #58190
      Anonymous
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      I thought Wales was an island until only a few months ago after a friend and I got into an argument about it. I always thought it was an island off to the left of England and Scotland and between Ireland and Britain

      • #58207
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I thought Europe was one big country and that places like France or Italy were like states, same with Africa.
        Also believed that Egypt was still like it was in ancient times

        I think you were thinking of Isle of Mann

        That the Berlin wall split the whole of East and West Germany, and not just Berlin.

        guilty

      • #58300
        Anonymous
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        I wish lol, gently caressing anglos/rapeugees

      • #58302
        Anonymous
        Guest

        he is a murderer and he is still free because some cops were racist even though logically the case of cop racism and murder are 2 completely separate things

        • #58305
          Anonymous
          Guest

          and then he was sent to jail on a massively outsized sentence for his armed robbery conviction. That I think was wrong. One failure of the justice system should not be fixed by another failure.

          • #58310
            Anonymous
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            right, murderers should be let go free instead. in the name of democracy etc.

      • #58324
        Anonymous
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        You were thinking of the Isle of Sodor

        • #58334
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Or maybe he was thinking about the Isle of Man

      • #58460
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >pittbul

        That dude never quits being a n****r, does he!

    • #58192
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I used to believe the entirety of WW2 was about the United States liberating France from the Germans.

      • #58381
        Anonymous
        Guest

        burger education, everyone

      • #58470
        Anonymous
        Guest

        that was the just the most signifigant part.

    • #58193
      Anonymous
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      I thought Red Alert 1 was an accurate depiction of an alternate history where nazi germany never existed.

      • #58198
        Anonymous
        Guest

        At least you didn’t believe Battlezone was an accurate depiction of the cold war like I did

    • #58194
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought the romans invented pizza.

    • #58196
      Anonymous
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      I thought the Civil War was the Silver War. Which sounded pretty cool. Confused the hell out of the school librarian when I asked for help finding a book.

    • #58199
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I was afraid to take a shower for a week after I discovered gas chambers

    • #58203
      Anonymous
      Guest

      After watching Braveheart, I tought it was king’s duty to lick all newly-wed women.

      I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".

      • #58205
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
        This is what they don’t want the world to know

      • #58252
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
        FOOL! Now this information is in the wrong hands

      • #58262
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Similarly, I was under the impression that most of the explorers in North America were English because of the bastardized English names I was taught in school (i.e. John Cabot)

        • #58266
          Anonymous
          Guest

          >John Cabot isnt english
          What the gently caress?!?

          • #58285
            Anonymous
            Guest

            His real name was Giovanni Caboto, he was born in Italy

      • #58291
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >After watching Braveheart, I tought it was king’s duty to lick all newly-wed women

      • #58294
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
        At last the truth comes out. It was a Polish genocide of the Taino.

      • #58336
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >I thought Columbus was Polish because in school we were taught that he was called "Krzysztof Kolumb".
        Why drop the -us? You might as well just call him Gołąb if you’re trying to highlight the meaning of his name. (and yes, columb-us and golub are cognates with the same meaning, only obscured by the switch of k to g and the fact latin represented nassalisation by adding -m-).

        • #58366
          Anonymous
          Guest

          based polish linguist

      • #58339
        Anonymous
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        There’s an actual theory that Columbus was the son of a Polish king that got exiled, I shit you not

        • #58340
          Anonymous
          Guest

          WE

          • #58342
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Hold your horses, said King was from Lithuanian-Ruthenian stock.

    • #58208
      Anonymous
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      I thought all wars were decided by a single decisive battle, fought on one big open plain.

      • #58455
        Anonymous
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        Almost this, I thought all battles were agreed upon beforehand and that real world strategy was comparable to chess

    • #58209
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Serbia and Syria were the same thing.

      I thought Prussia was a cool and peaceful Disneyland-like country with castles, hills and shit.

      • #58217
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I thought Prussia was just some Eastern European country that existed then didn’t exist at some point. I imagined it as like Russia-lite.

        • #58437
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Pre-Russia? Kek

      • #58313
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >I thought Serbia and Syria were the same thing.
        They are

    • #58211
      Anonymous
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      Rome was a massive empire until barbarians sacked Rome and it all collapsed once and Rome was completely deserted for decades

    • #58212
      Anonymous
      Guest

      At one point in my life I believed christianity destroyed scientific progress in the Middle Ages.

      • #58239
        Anonymous
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        Guilty of this. I took my girlfriend to vatican and badmouthed Christianity in front of St. Peters. Now I just cringe thinking about that. Now I have to explain to her that I am now more enlightened than in past and shit.

        • #58240
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Even for your average fedora, that’s cringe. Why did you even go to the Vatican if you disliked Christianity? That would be like me going to Israel and talking about how I hate garden gnomes and they deserved the holocaust.

          • #58245
            Anonymous
            Guest

            I was 20 and just out of college.
            I also went to Campo do Fiori in the same city where there is a statue of Giordino Bruno and put flowers below his statue while giving a loud ass speech about persecution of Science by the church.
            I hate myself.

            • #58314
              Anonymous
              Guest

              Well at least you’re aware of it and grew as a person.

          • #58256
            Anonymous
            Guest

            >That would be like me going to Israel and talking about how I hate garden gnomes and they deserved the holocaust.
            That would be based tbh

    • #58216
      Anonymous
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      For some reason I got it in my head Athens won the Peloponnesian War. That’s why we have democracy today and Sparta is seen as a bad guy. Western civilization would be inconceivably different is Sparta won.

      • #58223
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Well I imagine learning about what actually happened must have lessened your fears about the consequences of a Spartan victory.
        Especially since they both just got absorbed by Macedon later anyways

    • #58227
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that 9/11 happened in Chicago

      • #58228
        Anonymous
        Guest

        How?

        • #58231
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Because I saw on the news that America was attacked and America to me meant the place that I lived in which was Chicago

          • #58233
            Anonymous
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            That’s okay, lad. When the Russians invaded Georgia in 2008, I didn’t know Georgia was a nation in the Caucasus and I thought they were invading the US state (which I live adjacent to). I started to panic and wonder if my dad would have to fight them.

    • #58234
      Anonymous
      Guest

      King Arthur defended Britain from Garibaldi and his horde of Italians.

    • #58236
      Anonymous
      Guest

      i didn’t know if we were christians, garden gnomes, protestants or catholics. neither did my low iq mom when i asked her. i guess the school education is the one that failed. we and everyone around us are prots

      • #58238
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >i didn’t know if we were christians, garden gnomes, protestants or catholics. neither did my low iq mom when i asked her. i guess the school education is the one that failed. we and everyone around us are prots
        Lmao……. merimutts…..

        • #58406
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Back to your containment board

          • #58444
            Anonymous
            Guest

            Ya best start believin’ in containment boards.. yer in one..

    • #58237
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >I thought the iron curtain was a giant metal wall across Europe
      So did I.
      I also believed that Hitler was the bad guy.
      I was a dumb kid.

    • #58242
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought the German Empire under Willy II was conservative but socdempilled and generally a benevolent entity that dindunuffin in Belgium, eastern Europe, Africa or elsewhere and if they did it wasn’t their fault and they tried to fix it.

      • #58364
        Anonymous
        Guest

        correct

      • #58383
        Anonymous
        Guest

        this is true

    • #58249
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Prussia was a shortened version of Polish Russia

    • #58250
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought armies would be all coloured red or blue depending on which side they were on like in AoE 2. In all fairness this wasn’t entirely wrong with regards to some parts of history.

    • #58251
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought germany was divided right down the middle and Berlin was in the dead center of Germany.

    • #58253
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Vietnam and Vermont were the same place.

      • #58315
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I thought America and Australia were the same place

    • #58254
      Anonymous
      Guest

      took me a while until i realized the holocaust was a hoax

    • #58255
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I used to think there was a clear good and clear evil in every war

    • #58257
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Russia invaded Georgia because of a Eurovision Song called "Put In".

      • #58258
        Anonymous
        Guest

        It’s actually caled "We Don’t Wanna Put In"
        its a bit sexual haha

    • #58259
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that Spain was in South America. The idea of colonialism really confused me since I didn’t understand why it was such a big deal that Columbus (some Spanish dude to young me) sailed from Spain to the Americas.

    • #58261
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought all the Diadochi states around the Mediterranean were Arab

    • #58264
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I used to think garden gnomes were the bad guys

      • #58265
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I used to think garden gnomes were not exterminated and replaced by ethnic Germans.

      • #58384
        Anonymous
        Guest

        i used to think garden gnomes were good

    • #58268
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Perhaps my dumbest idea was that all human languages evolved from Hebrew, which turned into Greek which turned into Latin. To be fair I was 11 at the time.

      • #58275
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Before Leibniz everyone thought that way.

    • #58269
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that the cold war referred to the portuguese colonial wars

      • #58271
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I mean every square is a rectangle

    • #58270
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I believed racism was just an an irrational hatred of people based solely on skin colour.

      I also believed all cultures were equal.

    • #58272
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought the Persian Empire was Muslim

      • #58332
        Anonymous
        Guest

        There were a lot of Persian empires and most of them were Muslim. Do you mean the Sassanids?

        • #58333
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Maybe he means the Achaemenids?

          • #58439
            Anonymous
            Guest

            maybe he’s just retarded

    • #58274
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I used to think the cold war was a real war that started right after WW2

    • #58276
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Canadians were all eskimos, lived in igloos huffing gasoline and played curling while drinking Labatts all day.

    • #58278
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I got North Korea and North Dakota mixed up and thought their was an insane tyrannical US governor trying to get nukes for some reason.

      • #58407
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This would actually be a pretty based premise for a movie

    • #58279
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Dumb historical beliefs you had as a kid
      That this guy was as bad as we were told.

      • #58430
        Anonymous
        Guest

        "Hitler wanted to take over the world" is a common one

        • #58443
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Hitler wanted to take over the world and exterminate everyone who didn’t have blue eyes and blonde hair.
          My CNN-addicted mother still believes this.

      • #58434
        Anonymous
        Guest

        He turned out to be even worse than we were taught, unironically

    • #58282
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I didn’t know there was a difference between the 3rd reich and the 3rd world, they were always talked about in a negative context so I just assumed they were the same thing
      That, however, raised the question why everyone was so scared of some skinny black kids

      • #58365
        Anonymous
        Guest

        My baby boomer middle school history teacher made all the kids with brown hair or eyes stand up and told them that they all would have been executed on sight in Nazi Germany lol

    • #58284
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Hearing about the berlin wall + the iron curtain.
      I also thought their was a massive heavily fortified wall built by Soviets during the cold war spanning most of the Soviet/Ally split.

      Living in America most people just acted like there was only 3 parts to the world. Russian countries, America and friends , mexico and other mexicos.

    • #58288
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Harvard was somewhere in the Midwest for some reason, and even now I have to remind myself it’s in Boston

    • #58289
      Anonymous
      Guest

      That jetfuel could melt steel beams.

    • #58293
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that the Welsh and the Gauls were the same people due to the way it’s written in Spanish ("Galés" and "Galo").
      Through that I also thought Caesar’s conquest of Gaul was his invasion of Britain, and that the territory of modern day France was already Roman before him.

    • #58296
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Back in like 1st grade my concept of time was so gently caressed that I thought Benjamin Franklin and America was like only 50 years old

    • #58298
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought the Gulf War was fought in the gulf of mexico.

      • #58306
        Anonymous
        Guest

        ESL here. I thought it was about golf and wondered why the gently caress people were looking for oil in a golf course.

        • #58307
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Based weekend hacker

    • #58309
      Anonymous
      Guest

      As a child I thought Diana was a princess of literal Whales like a royally appointed warden of sea life and people respected her for her great works in Ocean conservation…

    • #58311
      Anonymous
      Guest

      It was mostly reinforced concrete or metal fencing, so yes, it was an ‘iron’ curtain.

    • #58312
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Hitler was Australian and that he sailed to Germany to fight in WW1.

      • #58316
        Anonymous
        Guest

        best alternate timeline right there
        >Lets SMASH SOME VB AND BRITS CUNTS!

    • #58319
      Anonymous
      Guest

      My image of warfare between nations in the old times was that literally everybody, men, women, children, young and old, of those nations charged at each other, with whatever weapon they had.
      I got this idea when we were presented old tools in kindergarten, and some other kid asked if a potato smasher had been used in the Winter War.

      • #58321
        Anonymous
        Guest

        But potato mashers were used in the war as weapons.

      • #58323
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I literally thought the same.

        When we were kids we got to write to deployed soldiers around the start of Iraqi Freedom and I drew for him a picture of what I thought a battlefield looked like: smiling men and women in helmets, using oversized cartoony weapons like mallets and knives, clambering through an obstacle course made of electrified booby traps. I wonder what the soldier that got the letter thought of my drawing

        • #58330
          Anonymous
          Guest
    • #58320
      Anonymous
      Guest

      When I was younger I thought that the pacific theater and the Vietnam war were cause because the US tried to invade Germany through Asia, then link up with the forces of the USSR, however in doing so they passed through asian countries that then declared war on them due to the US presence.

      • #58447
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Probably thought you were some communist dick suck

    • #58322
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that countries always had their current borders up until like 3 years ago. When I tried to read a medieval Chinese history book I had no idea what the gently caress was going on. Now imagine how I felt looking at medieval Europe

      • #58338
        Anonymous
        Guest

        How old are you

    • #58326
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that battles and wars were just the 2 sides charging at each other and fighting non stop until they basically manage to kill everyone on the opposing side. Also the planes in ww2 didnt ever land, they flew around for the whole war unless they got shot down

      • #58372
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >I thought that battles and wars were just the 2 sides charging at each other and fighting non stop until they basically manage to kill everyone on the opposing side.

        You can thank Hollywood for that

      • #58422
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I sometimes wish humanity was that brutal, we did come pretty close in the world wars to that

    • #58331
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Mexico and Peru were direct continuations of the Inca and Aztec empires.

      • #58370
        Anonymous
        Guest

        This but with Italy and the Roman Empire.

        • #58386
          Anonymous
          Guest

          based and mussolinipilled

    • #58344
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >Thought King Arthur and the Round Table guys like Sir Lancelot, etc. was real
      >Thought Alexander the Great was a myth
      >Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn’t, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn’t American.
      >Thought Spain was with the Allies in both world wars
      >Thought pirates were some of the most fear warriors on the planet because they knew how to use both swords and guns
      >Thought Christopher Columbus was a pirate
      >Thought everyone who founded the Virginia colony were pirates
      >Thought Conquistadors were just Spanish pirates and that was the Spanish word for pirate
      >Thought vampires were real
      >Thought Aztec and Mayan priests were all vampires
      >Thought Dracula, Stalin, Hannibal, and probably a bunch more I’m forgetting were all vampires
      >Thought Hannibal from Silence of the Lambs was Hannibal from Carthage brought bac to life (My parents let me watch Silence of the Lambs at a very young age, it sort of gently caressed me up)
      >Thought Silence of the Lambs was real and Hannibal was out there plotting to eat people and ride elephants

      I wasn’t a smart kid.

      • #58345
        Anonymous
        Guest

        that’s some real retarded shit anon. hope you turned out fine tho

      • #58348
        Anonymous
        Guest

        you are priceless

      • #58351
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Thought Silence of the Lambs was real and Hannibal was out there plotting to eat people and ride elephants
        This is true though?

      • #58353
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Holy shit; you win.

      • #58358
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Thought pirates were some of the most fear warriors on the planet because they knew how to use both swords and guns

        That’s actually cute

      • #58361
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Spanish conquistadors were pirates
        They were.

      • #58371
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >>Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn’t, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn’t American.
        Mormons disagree.

      • #58375
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Thought Dracula was a vampire
        Anon… I..

        • #58376
          Anonymous
          Guest

          Vampires aren’t real

      • #58378
        Anonymous
        Guest

        AYAYAYAY

      • #58379
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >>Thought The bible took place in pre-independence America near Texas because the pictured always looked desert-like until my uncle explained to me it didn’t, got pissed at my uncle over that one. Briefly thought it was dumb that God wasn’t American.
        Based and Patriotpilled

      • #58399
        Anonymous
        Guest

        These are all based though

      • #58400
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >Thought Aztec and Mayan priests were all vampires
        AWAKEN MY MASTERS!!

      • #58440
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Ah the classic stalin vampire theory

    • #58346
      Anonymous
      Guest

      not strictly historical, but until about 15 I held the belief that sherlock holmes was a real person. my mom actually had to break it to me like santa claus, except I knew about santa claus since I was 9.

    • #58347
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I use to believe that Russia was founded by Swedes

      • #58352
        Anonymous
        Guest

        it was tho

      • #58354
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Retard

        • #58388
          Anonymous
          Guest

          he’s right tho

          • #58390
            Anonymous
            Guest

            How? Rurik was a finn

      • #58387
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >who is rurik

    • #58349
      Anonymous
      Guest

      In the third grade I had an assignment to write to first responders thanking them for saving people on 9/11 and I thanked the cops for trying to stop the hijackers because I thought the terrorists announced their intentions in their airports and stole a plane that was parked.

    • #58350
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >thought that Argentina, Brazil and Chile were italian colonies
      >thought that the gulf wars were America vs Mexico because back then we learned about the gulf of mexico in school so naturally that had to be the only gulf on the planet
      >thought that people fled from west Berlin to east Berlin because the Soviets and the western allies flipped their sectors around so that the western part was east to make it fairer or something
      >thought that Russia was a successor state to Prussia

    • #58355
      Anonymous
      Guest

      That hitler killed his own parents

    • #58356
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I got surprised when it turned out that Poland’s 1939 and present day borders were way different

    • #58357
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that Judaism was older than Hinduism

    • #58359
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Kid me just had a very weird perception of time, pretty boring compared to the rest of this thread. I remember being eight years old and hearing that the bubonic plague happened in the 1300s and thinking that such a date was extremely ancient beyond comprehension.

      • #58421
        Anonymous
        Guest

        That was pretty much any year before the 1920s, that was anything outside what I had learned in school. I remember learning that Frankenstein was written in 1818 and it seemed so impossibly far away.

      • #58423
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I do agree it is far beyond normal comprehension. As much as we likely wouldn’t know how to interact with an ordinary gentleman from the 1700s, someone from further than that in my opinion would share such different values than us nowadays that they’re beyond all speculation. Sometimes they’re closer in sensibility, like the Roman republicans, and sometimes further like the Byzantines, but they’d all be exceedingly strange if not impossible to be able to sit down and converse with normally now even if we could speak their language

    • #58362
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that Cod 4 : Modern Warfare’s plot was historical, meaning that a nuclear bomb was dropped on Afghanistan … my brother made a fool of me

    • #58363
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I don’t remember having any of these types of misconceptions. Anything I didn’t know I guess I just didn’t think about, my mind didn’t try to fill in the gaps of anything. I believed wholeheartedly in santa until I was 11, that’s the type of person I am.

      • #58367
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Yikes!

        • #58396
          Anonymous
          Guest

          i-it’s not that bad i just accept whatever authority tells me. i wouldve been a good serf. im comfortable being exploited if it means i get some pats on the head and encouragement…
          the second i stopped believing in santa was exactly when i became an atheist too, black and white like that

      • #58462
        Anonymous
        Guest

        My parents would get on the roof and stomp around to make think santa just landed, then they made it look like a reindeer had entered our home by putting muddy hoofprints on the carpet with half eaten carrots everywhere. Shit had me convinced for a long time lol.

    • #58374
      Anonymous
      Guest

      That Berlin was in the middle of Germany and the Berlin wall was a huge wall diving the country in half.

      • #58377
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >That Berlin was in the middle of Germany
        It was more or less true back in the days of the empire. Berlin is slightly over 500km away from both Trier and Koenigsberg.

    • #58380
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I was raised by extremely religious parents/grandparents and so I totally bought into the Biblical account of history. I believed that Judaism was the first and only true (before Christianity) religion and God created everyone, but some people hated God for trying to make them follow rules, and so they started practicing false religions. Also believed Noah’s Ark, Garden of Eden etc. were real events and that creatures like angels, demons, nephilim etc. were real. But then when I was around 8 I watched a cartoon of Noah’s Ark and realized it was kinda retarded and that eventually led to me realizing the whole thing was retarded by the time I was around 15, it took me so long because I was afraid my thoughts would send me to hell.

      • #58391
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I’m kinda similar to you only not as extreme. I was raised Christian and it baffled me when I found out there were people that weren’t Christian. Naturally this made me start to question how I knew my God was the right one out of all of them, and I eventually came to terms that I didn’t and it was all bullshit. I feel like I’ve lost something because of it though because religious communities are very wholesome and friendly unlike the group of unrepentant poopyholes I find myself surrounded with these days

    • #58382
      Anonymous
      Guest

      i thought the british represented civilisation and common decency

    • #58389
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Hungary and Turkey were related somehow because they were both named after food

    • #58392
      Anonymous
      Guest

      That was the first metaphor I ever learned. Growing up after the fall of communism was kinda weird too in the mid 90’sbecause I was 8 years old and had no idea why half the globes and textbooks had the USSR, and half had Russia/independent states.

    • #58397
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I believed in the holohoax

    • #58401
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought London and Paris were filled with natives based on old tourist advertisements.
      I thought Europe in general was some sort of safe haven in case things didn’t work out here.
      I thought British royalty still dressed in red coats and wore wigs like in the history books.
      I bought into the idea that we were the “good guys” in all the wars we participated in and the other side was the “bad guys”.
      I thought the Middle East was a giant desert filled with people who still dress the way they depict people two thousand years ago in Sunday school.
      I thought Israel was in the center of the Middle East.
      I thought America was founded by Christians and the God they spoke about was the Christian God.
      I thought Anastasia Romanov was still alive.

      t. American

    • #58403
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought African never had an empire and everyone lived it huts prior to Western colonization in the 19th century

      I thought everyone practiced black magic before 19th century

      I thought Religion was an innate idea. You’re either born a Christian or Muslim

    • #58404
      Anonymous
      Guest

      i thought that berlin was where the main west-east germany border was located, and that the berlin wall covered that whole area.

    • #58405
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I saw illustration about early development of robotics and actually thought that first robots looked like this. People had giant robots walking around and fighting in WW1.

      • #58457
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I got memed into believing the boilerplate was real, so it could be worse

    • #58408
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I used to think that all the millions of deaths attributed to Hitler were caused by him directly: as in he had an AK-47 and he ran around everywhere murdering people and nobody was able to stop him.

    • #58409
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Washington D.C. was in the state of Washington.

    • #58410
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought WW2 wasn’t a battle between three gnomish ideologies

    • #58424
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I didn’t understand the relative power of countries. I am British and was under the impression a country like Italy could attack us at any time. I think this wasn’t helped by South Park (Canada successfully invading the US in scenes).

      I also thought most of the world was just huge islands like the UK was. I saw that map of the US without Alaska so assumed the US was a big island. I drew war maps as a kid and everything was just islands apart from germany and russia, which were connected by land.

      • #58466
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Well, Italy COULD attack you guys at any time, assuming they ever made it through Gibraltar or marched their army across the Alps to take France first in a reverse-Napoleonic maneuvre, but it would be highly highly inadvisable

    • #58426
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Serbia and Siberia was the same thing
      I thought Turkey was not in Europe
      I thought that USA was the greatest country in the world
      I thought that history did not matter that much

      • #58427
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >I thought Turkey was not in Europe

      • #58428
        Anonymous
        Guest

        >I thought that USA was the greatest country in the world
        Which one is the greatest?

    • #58431
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Went to mosque after school every weekday to learn about Islam as a kid. Used to think that your life ended after you stopped going to mosque (to learn). You would just die. Weird that I use to think this despite the fact that there were plenty of people around who were alive and did not in fact go to the mosque.

    • #58432
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Herodotus was born in like the 20th century because for him to be called the father of history, he must have written the history of most of the world.
      I also found it weird that a 20th century guy would have a name like Herodotus and no last name.

    • #58436
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought New Zealand was in the north of Russia (Novaya Zemlya)
      I thought Siberia was a tiny island (Novaya Zemlya)
      I thought the Berlin Wall was all around the border of East Germany
      I thought Rock Balboa was real
      I thought Ireland was in the Balkans
      I thought one state in my country (Sonora) was the house of tropical music because a lot of groups used the name "Sonora"
      Thought California had jungle because it was so green in the map and because of a group translated as "The Toucans of Tijuana"
      I thought the climate phenomenons of "the boy" and "the girl" were in honor of some unknown kid that died in a storm or something
      I though Prussia was an extension of Russia
      I thought everybody was in war with Germany in ww2 because they saw the labour camps and the starving people and they just wanted to be humanitarians and kill Hitler

    • #58438
      Anonymous
      Guest

      >I thought the iron curtain was a giant metal wall across Europe
      I pictured a giant iron curtain in the literal sense.

    • #58442
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought that Greenland was green and Iceland was actually a shithole

      • #58451
        Anonymous
        Guest

        Literally falling for medieval Norse propaganda.

    • #58445
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought Prussia was a Russian colony or something

    • #58448
      Anonymous
      Guest

      i thought new york was in hawaii because it sounds asian

    • #58449
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Like others in this thread, I didnt know what Prussia was. I thought it was a region between Poland and Russia that they called Prussia, you know like a portmanteau of "Poland" and "Russia"

      I was really confused when I later learned that Prussians were Germans.

    • #58450
      Anonymous
      Guest

      Columbus discovered that the Earth was round.

    • #58452
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I was positive that we had already had ww3, and when my brother told me otherwise I thought he was gently caressing with me

    • #58453
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I believed the current world order to be a fixed state of affairs forever

    • #58454
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I believed the moon was made of cheese

    • #58459
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I believed that the ‘holocaust’ happened.

      Not my fault as it’s the most propagandised fiction in history.

      The amount of human effort that has gone into maintaining this lie basically proves that satan is real.

    • #58461
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I was utterly convinced Nintendo was an Italian company as a kid because Mario was Italian and Super Mario Sunshine always resembled coastal Italy to me.

    • #58463
      Anonymous
      Guest

      I thought a nuclear bomb would destroy half the planet and thought that dropping one out of a Concorde to outrun the explosion to wipe out the terrorists in the middle east was a good idea.
      I know it’s not history but that’s probably the stupidest thing I ever came up with as a kid.

      • #58465
        Anonymous
        Guest

        I remember my mum telling me that there was a button called the doomsday button was linked to a nuke in the core of the earth, and that if the world got too shitty they’d press it and blow the planet up.
        She also told me the doomsday clock was a clock was a clock that would count down to tell people when the government was going to just randomly nuke cities at various times.
        I don’t know whether she actually believed this or was just making it up to gently caress with me.

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